i really like the bikes! they are one of my favorite datasheets custodes have, i dont see anywhere that they fit in the nmv? or do they not really gain anything from it ? as always another excellent video!
@@HubtownHammerunfortunately it’s written that way :/ . But I’m curious if they could play a part somewhat akin to the venatari or allarus, where they aren’t benefiting in the detachment, but maybe they are good enough regardless lol?
I like the first solar list a lot as well, though I lack with the forge world units. Nonetheless... I always made sure, to have at least a small unit of 2 vertus preator or captain on bike for the secondaries. Point costs were equal, kind of. Only on auric champions I had used 2 shield captains on bike, for additional melee support for the guards or wardens. The allarus easily remove any thread by themselves, with a captain.
@HubtownHammer I was really wanting to run double land raider with terminators in the new detachment so the vehicle can just bust through ruins haha I think it would be awesome
Looks good. one of my list's shield host bike captain with auric mantle +2 wounds solo 3x2 bikes 3x1 warlglaives 4x5 guard in deep strike. 50points left for some sisters to sit on home objective. turn 2-3 hit hard. With guard plus bikes and mini knights.
They are not on the app yet. I think the mentioned half way through the month they would update the Grotmas detachments then again once they are all available
Can you explain why you went with the venerable contemptor dreads and not Telemon dreads for the solar spearhead? I’m okay *not* using FW models, just wondering if there was a in-game reason.
@arbitrary_mike7833 They Stand back up on a 2+ at the end of the phase once per game. With D6 wounds remaining. Which will have it at below starting strength and or below half strength. Then next turn we charge that angry dread into the enemy. With re-roll hits of 1 and wound if we roll a 4 or less It also has the exact same melee profile of the Telemon with one fist. 5 attacks str 12 ap 2 dmg 3. They are fast now too. Could Advance get on an objective early. Get shot to death just to stand back up and still holding the objective. Could shoot and charge them but then we pop fight on death 3+ All for 55 point cheaper than the Telemon. I think these might be our best dreads for the points
@HubtownHammer I only play more casual games with my group of friends, but some of them play DA, Necrons always with immotekh, Death guard sometimes with tallyman and Swarmlord so it seems like it could be good for me
@euanmurray8146 I would say so! I would just replace draxus with him. His strip the cover ability is nice since it's just a unit within 18" does not need to visible
I just find it hard to justify 1 cap and 3 bikes at 420 or 2 bikes and cap at 340, or 3 bikes for 240, I'm down to try them and hope I'm very much wrong, its just that's a lot of points when i can use other units
@arbitrary_mike7833 i truly don't understand the team, they weren't supposed to be updated on the app till next month, they're the correct points there and I was basing it all on what I thought was correct Data, had to go to the actual update and look at it
I can't use the new detachment, but the jetbike change us very nice. I actualy like the unit more,then the captin. I just don't think 180pts or more is a fair price.
Bought the new Combat Patrol and the Auric Champions box so I was running bikes anyway. Now I’m actually happy I get to run bikes in my lists!
The Emperor has blessed your resolve to run the bikes! You already will have a good grasp on how they play. You are smiling now!
@ I’m smiling and ready to play tomorrow agains Tyranids!
@@LuisJimenez-pb3ge Good luck! Let me know how the Bikes do
@@HubtownHammer we won!!! 53 to 16.
Bikes missed all there shots rolling double 1’s 3rds in a row but scored points and took down 2 characters!
@LuisJimenez-pb3ge woooo congrats! Sad the shooting didn't pan out, but that is a solid win, my friend!
i really like the bikes! they are one of my favorite datasheets custodes have, i dont see anywhere that they fit in the nmv? or do they not really gain anything from it ? as always another excellent video!
Only units who get anything from NMV are the sister models, sadly.
@@HubtownHammerunfortunately it’s written that way :/ . But I’m curious if they could play a part somewhat akin to the venatari or allarus, where they aren’t benefiting in the detachment, but maybe they are good enough regardless lol?
Super happy to see gw give some love to some of the neglected units in custodes so we have more variety and dont have to spam wardens as much
I'm very happy to have more reasons not not spam Wardens
I’m excited that they have good stat lines, weapons, and a functional rule. Even if they’re overpowered they can be “fixed” with points costs now.
They feel so much better on the table
I like the first solar list a lot as well, though I lack with the forge world units.
Nonetheless... I always made sure, to have at least a small unit of 2 vertus preator or captain on bike for the secondaries. Point costs were equal, kind of.
Only on auric champions I had used 2 shield captains on bike, for additional melee support for the guards or wardens. The allarus easily remove any thread by themselves, with a captain.
I love the Allarus I'm Auric Champions. They are monsters with +1 to the wound roll
Recast time mwahahaha
Hahaha love the lists! Been playing around with Auric champions for some fun and the taxi time looks like a hilariously good time.
I knew someone would like the Taxi Time list. Land Raiders full of Terminators is a huge threat on the board. Plus, it's just fun!
@HubtownHammer I was really wanting to run double land raider with terminators in the new detachment so the vehicle can just bust through ruins haha I think it would be awesome
Looks good. one of my list's
shield host
bike captain with auric mantle +2 wounds solo
3x2 bikes
3x1 warlglaives
4x5 guard in deep strike.
50points left for some sisters to sit on home objective.
turn 2-3 hit hard. With guard plus bikes and mini knights.
I have a question 3 and and a bike captain is 385pts, I think too high for 1 unit. But I bet some ppl will run that.
I agree it's very high. 3 Bikes for 225 feels nice. 385 for 3, and the Captain feels a bit steep
does anyone know how to see these new detachments on the war hammer app
They are not on the app yet. I think the mentioned half way through the month they would update the Grotmas detachments then again once they are all available
They will be added in Jan 2025 in one go after everything has been release. This is also true for other list builders such as New Recruit.
I love the new bikes
Solar spearhead for the win. bikes and dredds .Huzzar!
Can you explain why you went with the venerable contemptor dreads and not Telemon dreads for the solar spearhead? I’m okay *not* using FW models, just wondering if there was a in-game reason.
@arbitrary_mike7833 They Stand back up on a 2+ at the end of the phase once per game. With D6 wounds remaining.
Which will have it at below starting strength and or below half strength. Then next turn we charge that angry dread into the enemy. With re-roll hits of 1 and wound if we roll a 4 or less
It also has the exact same melee profile of the Telemon with one fist. 5 attacks str 12 ap 2 dmg 3.
They are fast now too. Could Advance get on an objective early. Get shot to death just to stand back up and still holding the objective.
Could shoot and charge them but then we pop fight on death 3+
All for 55 point cheaper than the Telemon.
I think these might be our best dreads for the points
As much as I want to include bike captains in my lists I find it incredibly hard to justify him when I can get 2 more bikes for his cost
Yes, those captains are pricey. They are quite good solo in Auric Champions though
Are u not running coteaz with solar spearhead? Its too cp hungry
It only works if the opponent has a CP regen unit or ability otherwise it's just wastes points
@HubtownHammer I only play more casual games with my group of friends, but some of them play DA, Necrons always with immotekh, Death guard sometimes with tallyman and Swarmlord so it seems like it could be good for me
@euanmurray8146 I would say so! I would just replace draxus with him.
His strip the cover ability is nice since it's just a unit within 18" does not need to visible
I just find it hard to justify 1 cap and 3 bikes at 420 or 2 bikes and cap at 340, or 3 bikes for 240, I'm down to try them and hope I'm very much wrong, its just that's a lot of points when i can use other units
3 bikes is 225pts. 3 bikes with captain is 385pts. your numbers are quite a bit off
@ProAntagonistYT they got points increase, each bike went up by 5 and cap by 20
@@unboundjackal The new points are 75/bike and 160/bike captain. Those points include the points increases.
@arbitrary_mike7833 i truly don't understand the team, they weren't supposed to be updated on the app till next month, they're the correct points there and I was basing it all on what I thought was correct Data, had to go to the actual update and look at it
@arbitrary_mike7833 at least in happy to know that its automatically updated it seems because I definitely wasn't expecting that
I can't use the new detachment, but the jetbike change us very nice. I actualy like the unit more,then the captin. I just don't think 180pts or more is a fair price.
I agree the Captain does feel steep at 160