Not even anymore- they're click generators. Most of the junk posts in my feeds aren't ads, they're posts crafted by AI to be interesting enough to drive a click- and that's all they are.
Eventually advertisers will not want to pay for ads if no one is seeing them. They addressed this in the video, no one minded a few ads when the platforms were good, and advertisers were happy to pay for ads that actual humans were seeing. The ad delivery service needs people to deliver the ads to, which means the ad delivery service has an interest in keeping the sites good enough that people want to stick around. Or at least that’s how it would work if these people didn’t suffer from delusion and brain rot
"I want ai to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for ai to do art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes." - Joanna Maciejewska
In do time. It just turns out that work like accounting and other seemingly complex digital work is easy compared to doing 100% automated 3d real world work. The tec is there already here today or currently being worked on to replace a vast majority of human task and labor. Only thing holding the tec back is more societal and economic then purely technological.
This shit is not there. I've been using the pro version of gpt and Gemini, both are dumb as fuck. My stupid ass often has to correct my AI. I've asked it to do laborious tasks for me like gathering data and it fails at basic tasks like creating an Excel or sheets doc full of the publicly available information it took 17 hours to complete and only had 3 rows filled in. I've asked it to edit my writing and it often just gives me what I wrote with one or two corrections when I know I've put in 10 errors. On art, I'm an actual artist. Me against this thing is like davinci against a cat. Not even on the same level - I'm college educated. I know how many fingers belong on a hand and I can spell words in order. And on top of all that, it's answers are often wrong, which is actually causing answers on Google and Bing to also be wrong. Like I have reached the point where I no longer even trust Google search because it has now answered wrong 3 times. I am slightly smarter than average. I am way more intelligent than my AI chatbots. I can perform all tasks better than my AI chatbots and faster, too.
Trump economy is another good word for it. It's accelerated when you legalize stock buybacks for companies with revenue that used to get invested. And slash corporate tax rates on top.
Funny, "rot economy" was a very good term, that Ed proceeded to butcher by explaining something completely different. He should have said "inflation economy" or "bubble economy". He did not explain enpoopification at all! He just tried and failed to explain WHY it's happening.
@@auraguard0212 Ed's been making the rounds in the leftist podcast sphere recently and, having listened to his material on several different podcasts (including his own), he just doesn't seem to be able to provide much in the way of insightful commentary. It's a lot of indignation and a bunch of half-assed explanations to justify it, but not a lot of substance to back it up.
As the type of tech enthusiast who would spend all my money on having the latest tech because it was fascinating. Crypto, nfts, metaverse, and AI has completely made me stop caring about technology
Me, but at the start of smartphones. Few years ago now, I dropped my phone on a bike ride. I didn't realize it until the next day. A friend told me to google this 'find my phone' phrase and sure enough google gave me an exact location of my phone. I didn't enter a phone # or verify anything nor do I remember signing up for this feature but I won't say I didn't because I might have. My phone was run over and absolutely destroyed yet google pinpointed it to a corner of an intersection which is exactly where I found it. That scared me.
That's a good way to put it. Same here, I love tech and trying new things. And watching videos about new stuff coming soon. But with AI and similar, it's a "no thanks" everytime.
@@dynamicphotography_ I think maybe you haven't given AI a fair shake. Just as a chatbot, the advanced voice mode versions of the lated model from Chat-GPT is actually pretty cool. It's a good way to bounce ideas off of another person when another person isn't available, or when you're not ready to share the ideas yet because they're still new. It's also basically Google on steroids. I was also able to use it to learn how to build a PC when videos/google failed to answer my questions. Like, no one can tell me how to build a budget PC that's also upgradable all the way to modern hardware, and figure out where it's better to put more money into the build now vs saving on cheap parts now that are easy to replace later.
Luckily you're not really the customer, because mega corporations don't rely on making a profit to deliver a return to their investors through dividends, instead they rely entirely on stock price increases, which means they constantly need to convince investors that they are able to take advantage of whatever is fueling "growth" in share prices.
None of this AI false hype surprises me. I live in a big tech city, and the attitude of "new technology is inherently good and worth using and we're not going to ask ourselves whether it actually improves our lives" is super prevalent
Watching the AI billboards in San Francisco suddenly clutter the skyline, because they're so desperate to sell it, was everything (and a reason I left after living there my entire life.)
AI can be an useful tool like a search engine is and it can be a toy. But all that blabla about AGI is bs because the technology is not capable of doing anything like AGI, it's simply not possible with a prediction model. They are sophisticated search engines, not our next overlord.
Reminds me of VR. Who wants to walk around with an expensive computer on their head any hoodlum can just steal and run away with. On paper it sounds good, but in real life practice it doesn't work. Life is GTA5
@@maniacos9620exactly what I use it for. I can verbal vomit a whole mouthful of explaining what I’m searching for and bam! Very refined search that almost every time, it’s exactly what I was looking for. And it gives the “quote” hyperlink so you can just go right to the page.
Customer service is gonna be 90-99% replaced over the next few years. It's almost there already. Realistic voices, company information based model fine tuning, fast inference time (groq and embed company ASICs) etc. this is gonna be common place if not already common place.
@@SahilP2648nah, I'd hate that. I don't shop anywhere with AI kiosks. I want an actual human. It's bad enough I have to press 1 for English and if I had to deal with an AI chatbot for everything I'd just stary stealing at that point. Who's going to stop me, AI?
@@SahilP2648it barely exists because companies don't want to pay for it, regardless of whether it works on not. I hate dealing with customer service when something goes wrong because it barely exists these days.
Talking about "AI will make movies in the future" btw, AI work is not copyrightable. So if Disney decides to do all their movies in AI moving forward, congrats, those are all immediately open to the public to use as they see fit. That would be hilarious, but that is another reason why it's not "the future".
Except you forgot the step where Disney bought a politician that made AI created 'art' copyrightable to the company that generated it. That's kind of Disney's thing.
AI art needs to be detectable for its copyright to be void first. Right now you need very skilled humans to spot current gen AI art problems. We're waiting on programmers to solve this problem too.
copyright is meaningless in an AI generated future. Now, I don't know to what degree anyone will care about AI generated movies or TV shows, they will probably be terrible for many moons to come, But the point is not that you make money off one product that you sell. The point is, you make money off the ability to GENERATE products users WANT.
@@davidbutler9323who wants AI produced art? Seems like a very small market of people who would find it acceptable, not on a quality level, but on a conceptual level.
@@AbsoluteFruit Well, no one until it is good, and then everyone. But i honestly dont think ai art in the true sense of art conceived of and produced by ai, is around the corner. We will get ai/human collaboration for some time still. This will make basically anyone into a film maker. Who will watch ai art then? Well, you will. Your kid will make ai movies of a quality previously only possible with million dollar budgets.
You know what kills me about the Metaverse? It's that Zuckerberg thought -- I mean he really thought! -- that the best way to sell it would be to make it about office work. Like, "you could go into a meeting virtually". That was the selling point. Like we were supposed to be excited... by office work meetings.
The office in this case has a furhter reach into your life. That means that anywhere there is a connection you can be expectd to be called by your boss at anytime and sit through a meeting thousands of miles away pssibly on vacation. Yea!
💯% this, every time I'm on a video call I think "You know what would make this better? If there was someone's virtual head in way of the slideshow presenter" 😅
I get what you’re saying, and I agree it’s a dumb idea, but you’re missing a pretty important aspect as to why it was advertised that way. They weren’t trying to sell direct to consumers, they were trying to sell to other businesses. There’s generally more money in B2B solutions than B2C.
@@BigDungeonEnergy1 Zuck probably likes office meetings because he's the big boy in charge. He has way more power and agency than almost any other business meeting attendee.
What I most worry about is the *ABSOLUTELY HUMONGOUS* amount of power that these companies and products consume for not really doing anything productive whatsoever
Nvidia has the first step in solving this problem with the Blackwell chip, basically general computing will end and specialized computing will take place and the result will be a dramatic decrease in energy consumption. I encourage you to go look at the Blackwell product that Nivea has prototyped
@@HalfWiseFennec I have briefly taken a look at Blackwell. It's good to see that they are seriously considering, for example, low-bit-precision computing to tackle power requirements
silicon valley is so infuriating imagine someone running an ice cream truck and just handing out free ice cream all the time. well, of course that ice cream truck is going to be the most popular one ever but how do you cover your costs? how do you make any money? the silicon valley answer to this is, 'we'll just use VC money and constantly operate at a loss. we have no plan beyond that' and that would be kind of funny except in the analogy you drive all of the other ice cream trucks out of business before your own unsustainable plan collapses and now nobody can get ice cream anymore they're being allowed to cheat the system, doing damage to actual businesses forced to run within the margins of a budget, and then being called visionary geniuses because... they run companies at a loss and release products that only seem good for a while because those products are vastly underpriced
It's Uber model and Ifood(Basil). The take the market fist, with a LOT of loss. Then they bring the cost at normal again, but this time they own everything. The ice cream will be the same price, but know it's only one brand. Welcome to capitalism.
@@Pirata_Vermelhoexcept that it's not really the capitalist model that's broken here. It's specifically the VC based tech companies being able to get away with shit because they claim it's different from traditional business.
@@Pirata_Vermelho not what I said at all. In a sane universe, Uber and doordash both would have probably gone bankrupt long before they became household names. The lack of a realistic map leading to profitability for these companies should have been a serious warning sign. But, VC money.
There's no way anyone could go onto Facebook in 2024 and say, "Yeah, this is a product that I want to use." And this sludge of suggested posts, ads, AI clickbait, and more is expanding to LinkedIn, TH-cam, Instagram and more. All of these platforms are going to die if they don't do something about it.
I dont see You tube dyhing anytime soon. but if it did. I wouldnt care. All it has done is make a bunch of children billionares who terrorize society. ANd you tube is essentially ad delivery for the most part. Funny how they invest so hard in ad block decetion but no quality of the site.
I hate that I have to use the apps in a way that they're not designed to get basic functions. Having to get plugins to filter out all the rubbish and see the people I follow. Some of it feels spiteful too like if you go onto the following tab on Instagram it removes the notifications and messages buttons. So you can't use 2/3 of the functionality you would probably want without going onto the terrible For You tab.
Have fun. There are a couple of models crammed into our monitoring software that basically generate tickets with no useful, and possibly wrong, information in it and cause panic. It's made our jobs worse.
@@ax14pz107 there are cases where ML is useful, but that kind of situation isn't one of them, at least not without a very well designed set of input heuristics curated to be relevant to imminent failures. Otherwise the artificial idiot is prone to false positives and false negatives.
@@kotoroshinoto oh yeah definitely. It's just now an expensive buzzword and the victims have to justify the cost by cramming it into their products regardless of effectiveness.
@@JonnyFootman-k5t Except: that is not what is happening. What's happening is that companies are using the AI to increase productivity, then filling that workload with more work in an attempt to increase output, and when these generative AI systems (or, you know, not-actually-neural-net-just-automation-with-buzzwords-attached systems) fail, they'll still expect the increased output. At NO point do things ever get better for the workers.
One factor to consider when we talk about bubbles. Not all investors are dumb, but the smart ones know when to put money in a bubble, and when to sell and run away. That makes it pop even stronger.
@@The12thOwl the concept has been around since at least early 1900s and the term has been used since at least the 90s. (Can't be bothered to Google exact years)
My AI professor literally told me Artificial Intelligence is at best a projection of Computer Scientist goals and at worst a marketing term to fool people.
As a Microsoft employee that was recently laid off, it’s a lot bleaker internally than it seems. In order to minimise the perceived impact of obscene spending, tech companies are laying off their employees and deprioritising the quality\ security of their existing services. Morale is at an all time low for many tech employees, as CEO’s focus primarily on appeasing shareholders over the short term. Over the last 3 years, I experienced a 1% pay raise, followed by 0% pay raise and then finally a retrenchment. I watched my team diminish in size to around 1/4 and the average employee tenure more than half due to retrenchments. Tech companies love to say it’s because of massive hiring during Covid but it doesn’t explain how so many 10-20 year veterans have been laid off. Satya’s legacy will end up being the introduction of a layoff culture and frivolous spending.
All of these companies announced MASSIVE layoffs at the same exact time they announced their MASSIVE investment into AI. Then they tell us it's because of economic slowdown, that we need to "upskill", that it's somehow everyone else's fault.
The tech industry fired literally hundreds of thousands of highly qualified software developers---a skill that requires years of training AND a brain that can look at the world in a specific and uncommon sort of way, and tech companies are saying Upskilling is required??? I call Bull$#!+ That's like telling elite mountaineers they're just not working hard enough at climbing. My theory?: this is 100% a repeat of the 'white collar recession' of the early '90s. A large swathe of offices would fire a bunch of necessary people, leaving the survivors to do the work of 3 people---so a lot of necessary work was unfinished or done badly. In the short term, stocks went up. After a while, they'd hire 1 person, so everywhere was still understaffed. That new hire was desperate, so they accepted less money. The overall wages go down, and the middle class shrinks some more. That's what's happening now in Tech.
There is a causal relationship, but not what you think. Companies looking to invest in AI are trying to cut expenses to free up capital for that investment. That's one big cause of the tech layoffs. Another is that they just plain overhired.
@@crossovermultiverse3882 the trouble is "ai" is just pattern matching and generating from previous data. so all the bad management ideas and descisions will be amplified in a feedbak loop...
Last week my logitech mouse driver poped up anoucing their new ai stuff. what the fuck does my mouse drive need ai for, this is nft all over again, but worse
I think people will slowly realize is that this current term “AI” is just essentially a data processing and search engine trick. All the LLM generative machine learning models are almost random technology in search of a product. The inability for people to describe what it’s useful for is the first sign of a non product. To make a product you need a concept of how this will change or improve your life, that is the only important thing. And all these companies truly do not understand this. Apple has been doing this the proper way since the 70s, including the way it’s integrated into real PRODUCTS, not a product itself. Find tech that enables the experience you want not the other way around. And never jumping into tech thinking it will transform everything.
This information is incorrect, first it's not loses, it's cost to run. Secondly, this was calculated by and outside company based on what they think it costs to run. Also since this doesn't take into account any revenue...
Facebook wasnt profitable for 10 years just to give perspective until they were able to work out how to turn the social into a profitable platform. Now its essential. These kinds of setbacks are what tech founders have seen many times its all part of being the world leader and getting there first. Its really not an unsolvable issue.
@@HoardingcorpsesI thought it's called Moiré, its a shutter effect you can also find in reality if you change your point of view in regards to two overlapping, similar raster cutouts in metal for example. But yes, I was trying to make a joke 😁
@@robertbensch7748 You were sucessfully on you joke. I laughtet at least. You seeemed like you knew what you were talking about in the original comment while the other guy was explaining something that It was UTTER OBVIOUS that you already knew.
When game executives got excited about adding NFT to every conceivable game, I remember thinking "Which gamer actually wants this? Which gamer asked for this? It seems like the executives are very excited about this, and the average game consumer couldn't be bothered to give a damn." Now we have AI buttons on mice and keyboards. Is anyone else getting "NFT game item" vibes from this?
I suppose a valid application of AI to game design would be in making the bots less stupid or procedurally generated levels to be less boring but I can't imagine management limiting themselves to useful applications when there's so much hype.
This shit here is BRILLIANT!!!! I just found your channel while browsing for information on the AI bubble bursting. I'm thrilled to learn about this info (actually, it's pretty fucking depressing but....). As you said, some of what Zitron said validates my own thoughts on the AI hype. FYI, I've been in tech since 1979 and still continue to love it to this day. These discussions are sobering but they are honest and accurate. Keep up the good work, bro!! SUBBED.
@@MrWizardGG you're right, it sure is world changing. Training AI models has caused a massive spike in electricity usage and computer components manufacturing to support those training efforts, negatively impacting our environment. It's also been implemented without regulation on a grand scale, causing as others have said to be the "enshittification" of the internet at large. Google is largely useless now and social media has been flooded with ai powered bot accounts, a lot of which are malicious. Don't forget about the massive layoffs in the tech industry that were triggered by these AI models rendering human input "redundant" and expendable, and the constant threat of theft/actual theft that is occurring to artists who post their work online almost anywhere in order to train models to replicate their own works royalty and license free. I'm *so* glad that the tech industry pushed the use of AI onto the general public /s
Those insane Google AI answers are actually gathered from really old forum posts and web articles, most of which were parodies. AI simply can't handle irony.
Right because it only knows how to produce sentences like the ones it has seen, it does not know what any of the words mean or the mood, voice, or intentions of the speaker.
@@timothystamm3200 Yup, computers are not human. (shocking...) Computers cannot decipher human context or meaning in anything they copy. Sure, you can "program" a computer into deciphering mood or meaning but that's not the same thing. Also, not even the greatest programmer in the world can do that for every conceivable thought or question.
It can, but you have to guide ChatGPT on how to do it. To achieve that, you need a lot of knowledge about the subject, along with significant time investment and prompting skills. You must communicate, clarify, regulate, and optimize the numerous results the AI provides. If you only have small tasks and do them infrequently, it might not be worth using ChatGPT as a newbie. However, if you have to handle simple tasks with files that contain hundreds or thousands of pages, it is definitely worth using ChatGPT, especially if you don’t want to program like a nerd. and yes this text is written with the help of AI, why? because english is not my mother tongue but I want to communicate with you smoothly with less time invest
I'm surprised Adam hasn't talked about the Chicago School of Business. How this particular school started the business mantra of "If you ain't growing, you are dying."; and how this school of thought has slithered it's way through, not just BIG business but also small, businesses in the US and wreaked so much havoc.
I always like to use the local BBQ place in your hometown as an example of this. They are sometimes only open 1 day a week. When they run out of stock, they close. They usually employ a good number of people and if your BBQ is good enough, you can make quite a living from this. If everything is paid and you got nice things, why would you want to open a second or third location other than just pure greediness. If 5 people are the reason the BBQ is good and you try to split that up or add to it, chances are the quality is going to go down along with your reputation. Being unique with only 1 location also can add to the value. People waiting in line when they announce they're sold out are always bummed but look forward to the next time they're open. It keeps the demand high and the money rolling in. Personally I think that's worth more than 10,000 Subway restaurants.
Companies: Yeah, we can lose millions on this garbage program that shits mediocrity. Also Companies: No, you can't have a raise. Costs like that are untenable.
Apple to their unions: no, that's unworkable and too expensive for us, we're not agreeing to that Also Apple: Hey Shareholders, we're announcing a $110 billion buyback program! (Equivalent to giving away $750k per employee)
@@thegamesninja3119 I think it is woefully expensive as it currently is, and not to mention that even if they buy back stock, the price will just keep going up and maintain a $3T market cap, so my hunch is that it'll get more expensive as the market maintains as identical a valuation as pre-buyback. Granted, I suck at getting jokes so my bad if I forgot to laugh xD
@VideoGameStarChannelSupreme likely more sarcasm than anything else. Use of failed humor to make a point. Bubble chasers now have Web3 to try to get rich quick, so they are left with buying back stock. Stock buybacks are a valid choice... if a company has no clue as to what they can work on next... or what it means to be human. Again, sarcasm. My humorist very dry at times. Just call me Sandy.
My husband works in tech. We're very concerned what's coming later this year or next. When the AI bubble bursts, it'll take a number of industries with it, and likely be the thing that bursts a bunch of other bubbles.
You are either lying, or your husband is an idiot. Here's the thing about bubbles, *You can't see them* People think AI is a bubble because they keep comparing it to .com. Main concerns with 'bubbles' is people dump money into a thing, and nothing profitable comes out of it. But we are already seeing returns on basic AI ( not even pushing agi groups ). Where the new modeling techniques help critique existing narrow AI systems.
Thing is, there is a reason why at least 5 countries have outright banned AI, some since GPT3. Other issue hardly mentioned is the CO2. The amount of energy used to train these LLMs is shocking, it is is not sustainable. Big tech knows this and you can find out just how bad if you do the research. The reason it will halt is ironically not related to the technical problems that are facing but instead climate change. There is a reason why FinalSpark is taking a different approach (yes they mention this issue) but what they do is controversial, since it deal with ethics... after all, using 'human biological tissue'... best is to research this.
@@stonykark yeah... We just bought a house and have a baby on the way, he's looking at other options. His work has always been a bit unstable, usually going from one startup to another every couple years, but his current job is the most stable yet. Just not sure it's going to stay that way :/
It definitely farted last week at the Presidential debate. We weren’t supposed to see the Biden shit show. He was supposed to be cleaned up using AI CNN held the “debate” at the Georgia Tech basketball arena to get around the robust CNN network security Then the two candidates had separate camera feeds (split screens at times) The Biden campaign and media went to the DC FEMA center and deployed AI to clean him up. The telltale signs were all there. Cardboard appearance and black edging contouring his suit
For me as a teacher, I find GPT to be incredibly helpful in creating examples to populate assignments with. Like example story prompts or example problems for students to practice concepts. But that is basically a fancy Google search which is what all of us teachers do when trying to make curriculum happen.
I don't necessarily think that people are freaking out at nothing re: the AI taking jobs thing. I'm a hobbyist artist who follows a lot of professional industry artists, and AI-generated "art" has already dealt a massive blow to that community. Just recently, WACOM, one of the brands that makes drawing tablets for digital art, used AI to render a dragon in their packaging and marketing, and they got called out for it. If a multi million dollar company that supposedly caters towards artists decided to cut costs by using generative AI to create packaging, what does that imply for all the other companies out there who give even less of a shit about the morals and ethics of how these programs are trained (stealing artists' work) and are even more willing to cut out professional human labor in order to save a quick buck? Ugh. I just hate it all and I hate how much it's being forced on us. I hate having AI search bars integrated into apps to the point where you have no other choice but to use it. I hate Being fed google's AI responses. I hate it all.
I felt allll of this. I'm an artist too and it all makes me sick. I just came from a work event and they basically just preached AI to us and "how good it is". 🙄🙄
I saw a meme once that summed it up nicely. "I dont want Ai to create art, entertainment or learn for me, I want Ai to clean my house, do my taxes, do the mundane things so I can create art, entertaiment, learn new things and have time to socialize." - Ai is targetting the low hanging capitalistic fruit so they can make profit. If there is a bubble lets hope it burst soon so some real progress can happen that benefits us all.
@@davidbutler9323 In context mate, ie Ai and the data they trained them on to gain the investment they needed. Its a business built on the potential of massive returns, they had to target something that could get them over the next investment hurdle, robotics are much much harder and slower create that swirl of invester interest. In the world of Artifical Intelligence Investment, coherent text and art production is low hanging fruit... To a human no obviously they are not.
from the perspective of a coder - honestly it's been disastrous because the managerial class has bought into it, and the people actually doing the work are being dismissed or having the team size reduced because ai can spit out mediocre code snippets. and now there's less of us doing the same job and a lot of our time is taken up by trying to tweak the bad code to actually work in the broader context of whatever our product is
The thing is that even code that has been written and checked by people still gets released with bugs(sometimes glaring ones) that were not spotted because you simply cannot anticipate every possible issue that crops up in real world circumstances. Now these software companies are moving to a world where they are going to be putting out whole products with massive amounts of code that they are assuming works, sight unseen, that no one even knows how it works because an AI wrote it, and it seems to work during a limited beta. I'm not even talking about just smartphones or games. This can happen with airliners and cars.
I mean I am a software developer and I can tell you for sure it saves so much time. I am 50-300% more productive. Tbh the big companies should be threatened since all the people who were fired can create startups that can threaten these big companies using generative AI. It really does allow people to start single developer companies and develop games etc. which wasn't possible before.
Setting a reminder for myself to come back here in 3 years and see: what AI investing looks like, how profitable AI systems have been, and whether or not it's revolutionized anything.
Funny enough, listening to this is making me think of the modern AAA games industry: over-promise an idea, under deliver as a product, urge that it will get better with time, then monetize every step of the way.
Abandon at the exact moment where the monetization produces profit, don't care at all about the quality and start a new project. I've simply stopped buying AAA games at this point like I've stopped using Facebook. It's mostly garbage so why pay more for it. I drive a 96 pickup so maybe I'm just not a good person to ask about this shit.
That's not just the games industry. It's practically the entire tech sector. "It's just a prototype. It will get infinitely better. It's inevitable." is what they all say. It's a cult. It's everywhere.
Seeing the AI images becoming inbred due to the massive numbers of AI images online that gets fed back to the AI made me stop seeing genAI as much of a threat tbh
Like at the very least they will be forced to add SOMETHING to those images to differentiate them from the man made ones, so there will always be a way to tell
This is somewhat the foundations for the Dead Internet & the Dark Forrest theories. Eventually, so much of the internet will be full of so much artificial nonsense that it will supposedly drive real human users to a handful of private and secure services, in hopes of getting away from the bots. Honestly, with how much nonsense is already on the internet, I feel those theories aren't too far off.
@@DreamcastSoupYT unless the person "doing" the art takes like... Idk 4+ hours "making" the image... And I'm at that point just like "dude just learn to draw, you clearly have an image in your head. Learn to draw so you can put it on paper"
The great irony is that all these CEOs' jobs are probably the rare job that AI would actually be GOOD for, but of course they'll try to jam AI into everything but the job that affects THEM.
The irony here is that people in the creative industry today, the digital space, including the very platform we're watching on, were accused of not being "creative" and not being real "journalists" or not being real entertainment. All "real" means is incumbency.
It always just a data model compiling something halfway interesting out of a near infinite number of seeds and a massive training set. I'm curious how these companies take this stuff to enterprise customers. "Our system will let you fire 99% of staff for a tool that 10% chance of providing correct data."
@@SloMoMonday At the Enterprise level its about using the decades of data created that no one can parcel or use in any meaningful way. LLM not getting things right is mostly as it always has been, look to the humans not understanding the technology or just having bad data sets. Sound like everyone wants magic and is mad when its going to take a lot of smart people and years to make it better.
As a software engineer this is the first time i feel happy that this AI trend is failing, no one wants it and it seems that corporations just continue to push it onto us , i get that AI will make certain things easy but its going to replace the last remnants of the human experience - what little we have left of it anyway.
@@theonesithtorulethemall The one where you Stare at a computer screen for 8+ hours while being in the vicinity of other humans who are doing the same. Isolation with company!
still interested in future of AI and robotics lets see if AI, robots and self driving car can be a reality in next decade fusion on the other hand is still far away breakthrough in battery tech with even current solar panel tech will destroy all fusion funding
20 years ago, employers were pissing themselves to hire me to finish "web" projects (you know, that thing you're using right now). Less than 20% of those projects were ever finished, despite investors pouring several million dollars into them. The result is an Internet where server failure and UI bugs are the norm rather than the exception. Then one day, those same investors who friends ran their projects into the ground decided to shovel all that money into AI projects instead of Web projects. As with the first round, the investors have no idea what they are investing in, nor whom to hire to lead the way. As with the first round, our lives are all about to get worse because mass media listens to billionaires instead of the people they hire to do the actual work.
That IS odd, isn't it? The part about AI being poor with math, be it arithmetic or calculus. I know it is true, as of a few months ago, when I checked myself and confirmed with other people.
@@EllieK it makes sense if you understand what it is. GenAI (the textual form) is really autocompletion on steroids. It is phenomenonal at giving you a "response", but not necessarily an "answer". Because it isn't doing any math. What it will take, is another magnitude jump in capability. It needs to figure out the right combination of tools to answer any question, and GenAI will be only one of those tools. Not saying that this is impossible - maybe in 10 years we may see something like this, who knows - but ChatGPT, or any other GenAI tool, just isn't there yet. OpenAI and it's competitors should really stop the hype and focus on what they have achieved. Which isn't bad at all. But it's far from the panacea they're pretending it to be.
As someone who is getting a PhD in AI, I want to stress that the vast majority actual researchers do not buy into the whole AGI craze. You know how association doesn't equal causation? Well LLMs are just association machines, they have no reasoning or ability to understand causation. One of the beautiful things about science is that when you try to understand things that were never designed to be understood, the more you learn, the more you realize how much harder and more complicated the next step is. In this case, by coming closer to somethung that "feels" intelligent but isn't, we have learned a lot about what it really means to have a human-like intelligence, and how much harder it will be to get the rest of the way there. We are not close to AGI, researchers know this, but you can make a lot of money in the short term by scamming investors, so people are gonna go for the short term money instead.
@Singularity606 LOL Your comment is laughable. Someone posted on Twitter the other day asking ChatGPT "which number is bigger 9.11 or 9.9?" And of course ChatGPT answered "9.11 is bigger than 9.9" It can't even get elementary school math right.
To be fair to Google about the fiber, the other providers fought them every step of the way. They did everything they could to prevent Google fiber from entering the areas they controlled because they knew they would have to improve their infrastructure and pricing to compete.
And its still going strong where it did grab a foothold. I'm a GF subscriber paying $70/mo for 1gb. But I realize how lucky I am compared to a lot of places.
@@mattmullett9521 America? It's still insane for me, as an European that pays $8.5/mo for 1/1 Gbps to imagine how bad it is in America when it comes to fiber. Especially considering how America was always considered as"that technologically advanced" country here.
I remember over a decade ago before google fiber was anywhere other than a couple of cities, there was a guy offering gigabit speed internet, and ISPs sued him until he ran out of money. capitalism is such a drain on innovation. I'm still mad about the sugar substitute that is a protein, so it's low calorie, low glycemic, called brazzein. Naturally occurring in plants in West Africa, and the people trying to bring it to market were blocked. It's only now starting to come out, I'm guessing after sugar companies were able to get their hands on it. Or even the drug risug that is reversible male contraceptive first made in India that was stopped because it was too effective. It could last 8 years, so it was made not available, and an American version that lasts 1 year is being worked on. Not only that, but risug is already market ready, but vasalgel is still years away.
This is the first time I ever heard of Ed Zitron and I've never laughed out loud like an idiot in the middle of housework so many times that I'm instantly obsessed with anything he ever does
Robert Evans regales Ed Zitron with stories of awful people on Behind the Bastards a lot. He was on the Steve Jobs episodes. He is very funny and I love his voice
Best use for GPT has been coming up with dnd stuff that isn't seriously important, like scene descriptions, character names, ect. It will make any puzzle into whatever theme you want, fits any dungeon, shrine, or crypt
@@HalfWiseFennec i tried it a few times. it's good for trivial stuff. but if you press it for any specific formulas for anything that isnt trivial, it gives you either incorrect, or circular responses.
My conspiracy: The AI tech is not the end game. Major platforms having full autonomy to license and use everyone’s content, including IP, that was once used for teaching data is now the “product” they sell back to companies that don’t want to hire professionals.
Yep, I'm convinced the C suite 1% elite all hang out together and just collectively hate the rest of humanity, so anything that can replace or exploit us is appealing to them sitting in their bizarro echo chamber.
The current copyright laws we have are outdated and serve the benefits of no one, not even Big companies, and everyone relies on interpretation of the law by lawyers. Moon Channel once said in a video regarding Nintendo's aggressive instance on protecting their IPs that "we you have some of the most valuable IPs in the world, everyone else is just waiting for an opportunity to take them away from you. AI being just a means for other big companies to straight up steal IPs from their competitors does makes sense to me. I think we'll see this through in the next few years. Perhaps AI bubble will bust, but companies will still have access to the data they havested over the years, and the models they created. Depending on how the governments regulate AI models, I can imagine AI companies saying everything in their models belongs to them, and they will use this to claim ownership over IPs from other companies,like Nintendo, Disney, Marvel etc.
The same ones who are already in the middle of laying off workers - because the actually believe the tech is able to do most of the work already... Thinking about how people so clueless and out-of-touch have been able to fail upwards this long is infuriating. Makes you realise how much of all of this is just complete BS.
You think we'll just continue to have meeting as zoom calls or skype forever and not in a more immersive 3d environment when the technology will be available and affordable (e.g. not apple VR)
@@joannot6706 we will when it is a better alternative that can be done with the same or less effort. Right now - doesn’t provide anything more useful than zoom and requires more effort.
So professional and polished, Adam. I’m so used to listening to the podcast, and I had no idea your intros were on teleprompter and unedited. I’m always impressed by the way you are creating and sharing ideas and content. Thanks for all you do.
i have been so depressed looking around and seeing everyone being duped by this nonsense. you have no idea how much hope and relief this conversation brought me. from contra last week to this you have really helped uplift me during this stupid stupid stupid dark time that we';re all suffering through. thank you adam
Depressed? The people will keep getting duped. The people are too busy chasing dopamine highs to understand when something techy sounding is scamming them. It will only get worse. Grow up.
It brought you relief, because you are scared. These people DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. AI is not nonsense and is not a bubble. Get used to it. Your relief is unwarranted.
I'd like to relate an in industry story, from game development, visual media. Someone tried to work with some people who provided good, but still incorrect work. They received instructions on what to correct and what was the minimum required standard. They also had a number of traditional artists working on the same project. The traditional artists were able to adapt their work, correct the elements present and complete the work. The AI prompters, produced additional images and those were less suited for the project and only progressively got further away from the desired end state. Every single time was a new image, a new prompt. Every single refinement proved to be less suited to the project at hand. I've explained it badly, left out the details I couldn't confirm, couldn't remember. Generative AI is a verbose if badly trained parrot, just repeating what it knows. Giving answers that at best might, be close to what someone actually wants. As they said, probabilistic.
It can have a role in generating ideas, frameworks, and prototyping. It's easier to generate a bunch of things that look sorta-kinda-maybe like what you want and have an actual artist use that as reference, rather than trying to explain what you're looking for in words or badly drawn napkin diagrams or spending a bunch of time trawling through google images and pinterest. That's a fairly legitimate use-case and fulfills a need. That's... not worth trillions of dollars and gigatonnes of CO2, and should not be involved with anything anywhere near the final product.
Then those were badly uninformed and incompetent genAI users.. with Controlnet and IPAdapters it's ridiculously easy to modify an image even pose subjects just as you want.
@@hypotheticalaxolotl I still prefer napkin doodles honestly, I'd rather make exactly what my client wants then what they just settled for when looking through the generated options
@@FuzBrain I mean in either case I would hope they wouldn't just dump them on your desk and say "Go off, king." Either way they should be guiding you through what they're handing you, how the scribble/generated doodle has this failing, doesn't reflect that idea, has a decent pose but they aren't enthralled by it, etc. But fair enough.
@@Hosea405 Sure 🙄... Like this problem isn't EXACTLY what most people encounter when trying to have AI-prompt generators create anything more intricate than a thumbnail for TH-cam. No-one has ever shown - what you're claiming is "ridiculously easy" for anyone who knows how to use the tech - is actually possible... Not even the big tech companies pushing this overhyped garbage are able to show that it's "easy" to change small details here-and-there on an AI-generated image... in any reproducible and predictable way. It's always a version of "prompt and pray" again and again - until you hopefully manage to get anywhere close to what was asked by the client.
It's a solution in search of a problem. Most of the specialized solutions that already exist are better, so it's hard to fit genAI into an actually useful task. And when you can, there's often a less resource-intensive option that does that useful task better. It's good at summarization or rewriting, I guess. That can be occasionally useful, but not as a standalone product.
@@epb9000if not for the over-hyped expectations I think we could see that AI in its current limited state is already pretty neat, and even useful in the right context. "Pretty neat" and "occasionally useful" are a far cry from the corporate hype we are being sold though.
@@epb9000 Yep, add it to the list of the "Metaverse", NFTs, and cryptocurrency aka "Things that we have to invent problems for so that we can sell as a solution or at the very least turn into a grifting bubble we can make billions on through speculation and hype and then rug pull and shift to something else"
@@jonathan0berg I kinda agree, but it's "pretty neat" quality alone also comes at the expense of all the data being stolen to power it. It's like a hover car that runs on insulin. Sure, it's "pretty neat" but very quickly becomes a needless waste even if it's not hyped up as the "standard of the future".
@@epb9000 Disagree - the language problem does exist and indeed a giant step has been made with the new gen LLMs. There also exists no other software that does it actually better to my knowledge (feel free to educate me if I am wrong). That the costs of the solution is in no way appropiate to the problem it is solving is obvious. That google / Microsoft / Meta market the LLM's as a solution to everything instead of stating what it actually does (as in it solves the language problem) is another problem, but in terms of technology the new gen LLMs are really a giant leap.
Digital artists weren't considered "artists" for the longest time. They were accused of being cheap imitations that only produced mass produced garbage.
@@auraguard0212 -- I never said anything about welfare. I'm talking about investing. Zuck could have beaten Musk to the punch on Starlink decades ago. The problem is that investing in literacy, water treatment, disease prevention electrification, and internet access would have taken a generation and next to nobody in tech seems to think in a 20-year time scale.
I know you meant 'eliminate poverty' in terms of making people's standard of living go up, but lets be real big tech is going to rather willfully misinterpret that 'eliminate the poor' in a much more sinister and literal way because of the absolute inhuman state corporations ran by heartless lizard people have devolved into
I spent a whole day today testing AI resume and job search tools. Basically I spent a whole day arguing with a computer, telling it how to do what I already know how to do better.
Actually ai need training~~ but if you know what you are doing… ai would never met your expectations unless you teach it. Ai learn so much trash that it never really learn the best way unless taught well.
Try GPT-4o. It is one of the most accurate models to date and significantly better than 3.5 and 4.0. I use it everyday for programming. I also work with open-source AI LLM models. These tools are getting better at a rapid rate.
They already have. They prefer to make quick billions and make a crap product. destroy their industries and gain the public scorn then develop a sustainable product that is effective and they can make more money then they ever dreamed of. The insane amounts of greed. especially in the USA is erasing innovation.
Being a 30yr in a large hardware tech company. There is no way VR meeting can be productive. It still often people are challenged by mute/headsets issues or NOT EVEN USING A HEADSET, just relying on the laptop microphone... Cmon. But their will be 20 minutes lost at the beginning of each meeting dealing with set up.
It will make people avoid long meetings because having something strapped to your head is uncomfortable. By having shorter meetings, people are freed up to do actual work.
Yeah that was a true Dilbert moment where executives are like, "that's an amazing goal" and all the real tech people are like, "you want to do what??" 😅
@@username7763 comfier headphones exists, people play games for hours and hours with them. the problem is IT departments purchasing the shittiest call centre headphones possible lmao
My CEO, who is so boomer he refuses to use slack when the rest of the company does, keeps pushing for us to add AI into our processes SOMEHOW just to make investors happy. I'm so jaded now that I'm just sitting back with my tea and waiting for shit to burn.
Yeesh. Meanwhile my family is trying to essentially find "elder friendly Discord-like" for my grandmother and her friends' meal meetup planning. That'd be freaking AWESOME. Because they need forums, not email chains, but are also in their eighties and nineties and need it to be easy.
He is not wrong, though. It is incredibly stupid but adding AI somehow in your product at the moment demonstratively improves your company's performance on the stock market. Same way everybody and their mother wanted to have something involving "block chain technology " and TIOT. From the perspective of an executive this is the correct move. Moronic, but it is the stupidity of our markets and consumers that eat up tech babble without a second thought. The executives just do what makes number go up. To be fair that is their job.
My personal fear with AI is that people won't care about what's good, and studios will create shitty AI scripts for movies, then move to shitty AI animation when they can, and so many people will hop on it that it's all we get.
I'm not too worried about that. People don't necessarily care what's good, but there's no replacement for a human soul being behind a piece of art. AI-generated scripts aren't just low quality, they're completely lacking what people are looking for when they go to a movie. Even a bad movie made by humans is going to have more value to moviegoers than something generated by an algorithm. I just don't think there's going to be a demand for movies that are literally soulless.
@@larissabrglum3856 There is a streamer on Twitch that goes be Vedal. He has a functioning AI (pretty sure it is a use of Chat GPT) - He is constantly tinkering with the code and it us capable of looking at images and playing computer games. It also gets mad. It's called Neuro-sama Yet it is not aware though it has improved considerably via his parameter tweaking to appear sentient. It's taken him about 2 years to get it passable. His initial deployment had this thing denying the Haulocast and otherwise sounding racist. It was a mess. He got banned for 2 weeks and had to design a filtering system, plus had in load a list of banned words to prevent the AI from messing up that badly. As I see it with entertainment, the products are pretty bad and eventually people will be open to see stuff but then that special something that makes art great, that quality of the communication itself will be lacking and people will just stop going. Loss of money will be huge and you'll so much of this stuff scrapped. AI will get a bad rep pretty soon
What i feared from AI is that Real productif and talented humans will be accused of using AI, and just the other day an artist was accused of using AI to generate an image and the one who used AI won the first prize of an art contest.
Another thing about Sora and the woman in the Hong Kong street evolving into a full blown movie - how do you make a movie if you can't even have the same person across shots?
It's an engineering problem. The current AI capabilities are pretty much just there without much engineering having gone into product development. It's like saying databases won't help automate accounting processes, because they don't write the SQL queries automatically. We have barely scratched the surface of the capabilities of current AI from an engineering and product development perspective.
@@danielmethner6847 that is absolutely NOT an engineering problem. Set and object persistence between shots in AI generated values will load so much artifacts and bullshit into a scene even if you gave them a decade. And quit with this "in the future" BS just because it seems like it MIGHT happe , nobody believes that anymore and if you still do I got a 2016 self driving car to sell you.
@@danielmethner6847Except as the video clearly explains, there's a hard limit to how much the AI will be ABLE to do, and especially doing it in a way thst is COST and TIME effective.
18 months ago, before Sora: "How can AI generate a video clip from a prompt when AI generated images have so many issues." My point: look at the pace of progress in the recent past to give you a sense of the near future.
I used either bing or google to lookup the properties of some material. The AI automatically spit back a summary of the pros and cons. Under pros, It had "high temperature resistance" then under cons it had "cannot withstand high temperatures." A 5 year old could figure out that makes no sense. These things are dumb as doorknobs.
I imagine that what might be happening is that it's pulling from two different sources, for example the company website might say withstands high temperature, but an online reviewer might be saying it cannot withstand high temps.
@@AmazingKevinWClarkthat is obviously the case, but if there was any resemblance of intelligence in there that goes beyond the capacity of a research engine, it would notice the fallacy.
This happened even before Google added AI. Their recommend response when I was searching the first written book of the old testament that was used to write the others, told me two different answers on my phone and my computer
It's crazy that the rabbit hole with how shit this tech is goes SO DEEP that you can talk about it for over an hour, and still have other ways you didn't even mention in which this tech is shit.
Mostly because they've discussed that in earlier podcasts with other people, so to go over that - while an important fact - is beating a dead horse and not in the scope of the discussion about how the AI industry is basically turning into Saturn Devouring His Children.
That's not what the discussion was about. If AI held up to its hype (it's not even close), AND stole all its training data like it does now, then what you're talking about would indeed be a vastly more relevant topic. I predict that the AI bubble will burst, especially when more and more people see behind the curtain made of baloney. And then all that stolen training data will matter less than it does now, kind of like if I stolen millions of credit card numbers and just had them on a detached hard drive in my basement.
I work in Tech and everything you have said is Spot on. AI has existed for a long time before these Tech Bros in Silicon Valley decided to latch onto it. What I want to know is who is going to 'Bailout' these idiots when the stock market crashes? Because it will when everyone catches up to their grift.
Facepalm. Who told you that the industry would fail with AI? You provided no real argument for that. Yet you were bold enough to insult people that know more than you.
It has to be the product of McKinsey consulting, right? Every single large company did this at the exact same time on the belief that the ai thing will blow up and make a ton of money, and McKinsey’s whole MO is about cutting frontline staffing levels.
5:10 oh wow, that explains the sudden push for Google to stifle adblockers. Much easier to show growth when the small percentage of those not looking at ads suddenly has to look at a dozen of them instead.
Or they just leave Google cuz Google sucks anyways. I can't find anything I'm searching for using Google anymore. At this point I miss Yahoo of the mid to late 90s where it had what you were searching and then it broke it down into a bunch of different options.
Five years ago, I was pretty enthusiastic about developing computer tech. GPUs, CPUs I was excited to see the art people would create with them. Games, movies, interactive art. Instead we have vast warehouses of abused GPUs for Crypto and AI scams. I stopped buying tech. I go outside now, do other manual things and hobbies instead. No longer play games or watch movies.
video games of today are discount matrix in a way and the things i can do in games are nigh impossbile in real life driving shooting climbing fantasy power elden lord cowboy superheores vigilantes and so on outside is mostly hot with air pollution peple IRL sux ass in general i haven't found outside very interesting yet i hope i also get enlighten like you but chances RN are pretty slim
I bought a ton of art supplies, 2 guitars and a hardware sampler. Nothing is more enjoyable right now than disconnecting from the internet, sinking into a creative mode and completely forgetting all this garbage exists
@@ravensharpless audio books, music, digital reading, news, general awareness What's the alternate? I don't live in 90s like in FRIENDS show People talking to each other in cafe and bar Right now almost everyone has tws, smartphone, switch and so on Im not defending But how do you escape from reality Friends are also comfortable Chating online or while playing games What can an average JOE do? How long can you escape from it Is moderation even possible Honestly idk
One thing chat gpt can be very useful for us augmenting certain fields, not necessarily replacing them. Take coding as an example. Because it regurgitates information that's already out there, instead of digging through stack overflow for something you want to do, you can ask chat gpt and it will give you code that does what you need. It's not perfect but that's why it's good for augmenting instead of replacing. Someone that knows how to code can take the output, interpret it, change it if needed, and improve it. But you're saving time - especially for basic functions.
They make everything worse so that they can interrupt you with ads. As in : They'll break your pencil, so they can interrupt you with a pencil sharpener ad.
They'll break the tip of your pencil over and over so they can log more pencil sharpener uses. They make the pencil graphite INTENTIONALLY brittle and fragile so they can log more pencil sharpener uses
One thing I'm confused about is why people expect a search engine like google to answer their questions. Surely the point is to use to the search engine to find a website that is written by a person who gives you the answer.
Most people don't know how to use a search engine. They type in a badly worded prompt and only click on the first result which is almost always a corporate website providing a positive spin on the topic at hand.
Because a lot of the time entering the question you have will make the top result be a site (or forum entry) that discusses the exact question. And Google noticed people were using their search like that and began extracting text from some results
my parents have now evolved to such a mid-ground that they trust the search engine so completely that, say if they're searching for an old movie's information, they'll just click the amazon result at the top and accidentally buy it now. then they'll blank out about the whole original purpose of taking out their phones lol :(
What websites? The amount of factual websites on the net is shrinking in part BECAUSE of Google and SEO horeshit. Why bother putting up a website when an AI and SEO is going to bump you off the ranking to the page 900.
I want this new disruptive nonsense to stop and be recognized as a fancy "auto-complete" that it is. I've been a programmer since 1991 and I've seen so many things like this fizzle out.
As a programmer you should be well aware that GPT is way more than a fancy auto-complete. It's neural network architecture... modeled after our own brains, and processes information like we do.. so much so in fact, that neuroscientists are looking at GPT and neural networks in general to get more insight into our own brain processes.
@@Hosea405 The architecture is very complex and interesting, and I'm sure there's things to be learned neuroscience wise from all of this. But FFT architecture is nowhere near like a brain besides the abstract concept of neurons and strengthening/weakening connections, it's like a child's toy compared to all of the different complex biochemical processes going on in your brain 24/7. And just in general, LLMs aren't made to "think like a human": they are trained with the goal of *creating text that looks like it was written by a human*. That distinction is very important, imo.
Microsoft now added “Summarize with Copilot” as an automatic mouseover pop-up when any text is selected in edge. “Summarize” has been an effective feature in MacOS and iOS for literally two decades, and no one cared then or cares now.
@@Hosea405- Except it’s not. The current AI is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the complexity of a human brain. It’s not even close. A cognitive scientist studying ChatGPT to get a better understanding of neural networks is analogous to a gastroenterologist studying a Cabbage Patch doll to gain insights into the human digestive tract.
@@periapsis413 This "it's like your brain" thing has been a parroted thing from AI cultists err... enthusiasts for a while now. Trying to explain that there's way way way more happening in your brain than just some electricity going through some neurons just doesn't land, they refuse to believe it.
This in some weird way gave me optimism for the future. Everyone else is talking about how Ai was gonna change the world in the next 10 years in a bad way. This actually makes more sense.
It's called Xitter now. I worked in tech for 20 years. I'm done. I hate it. Thinking about bagging groceries for my retirement years because all of the start-ups I worked for didn't pan out. I'm 63 and now...
@@boyunderbridge Some stores are actually getting rid of them in part because it turns out when prices are high, and there are no humans around, people are fine just walking out the door with their merchandise.
I know people who talk about how awesome AI is and I ask 'what exactly do you think will change in the next few years because of AI?' And they say 'everything'. And i'm like 'what exactly?' And they don't know.
AI has changed the way spammers go about their business by huge amounts. I imagine most people wanting to support AI will neglect to mention that one clear and obvious beneficial use of AI, where it's made a tremendous impact.
Legit I have seen ONE company come up with a way to use AI in a useful manner--Amazon. They use it to scan reviews and make a short summary of "reviews overall" and you can ask the AI questions to see if any of the reviews answer them. It's VERY open about the fact that yeah, it's not useful on products without a lot of reviews, so it needs human input, but it's useful for using Amazon. It legit improves the Amazon experience. I have yet to see ANYONE else manage that.
"Next year" is when Teslas become robotaxis, remember? Or was that this year? No, this year was when Elon said he'd be landing a manned mission to Mars... Weird that I don't really see any of this materialising any time soon... Lmao.
The thing is next year will be better and you will be left with egg on your face...because hardware is accelerating at an exponential rate. It will peak 2028ish...but until then all people like you do is sell ai to the dumb even more as something special by proving the parrots right...as the hardware will improve.
@@InternalStryke you are right, however the future is filled with uncertainty. we cannot be so sure about that, there will be a progress, even if the AI Hype bubble burst. and i think there is a solution for that such as a breakthrough in the LLMs architecture, like we see on chatgpt, it uses transformer. even if the gen AI is plateau in the future, the improvement we see will likely be logarithmic. we might see reduced error rates that can make these LLMs more reliable for real world use
It's still hilarious to me that people refuse to call facebook "meta" and twitter as "x". I think some of it is just habit but i also think it is interesting that twitter and facebook are the names of there first and most successful products and the rebrand attempts have brought us nothing new. Its like our brains refuse to adapt until these company's prove they are worthy of these rebrands. We have built in bs meters.
I don't think that's true for Facebook as much as it is for X, Facebook is still called Facebook, what's is called Meta is the company responsible for the product, so most of the time people are using the names appropriately, they are Facebook for the social media and Meta for the company which is trying very hard to not let it die.
@@bluester7177yeah. the only reason I let the word 'meta' into my brain regarding that company is them also owning instagram. I still think it's a shit name for them---to quote a character from M.O.D.O.K.: "They think they're deep, but they're just trite."
I REFUSE to refer to Facebook as anything other than Facebook. Everyone was using "meta" as its intended meaning Zuck saw that and decided to steal a word from normal people conversation and name his dogshite company after it. Idgaf I will never refer to his business as meta, its definitely not meta. And I already don't use twitter so idgaf what its called. Actually to be fair to Muskrat, "X" was an old company name he had before his Paypal days so at least he already had the idea rolling around in his head
I've been trying to tell people that A.I. is a bubble and everyone has given me "that look". But I'm glad there are people out there yelling about it much louder than I ever could.
@@pararth4476 The current hype is a bubble. Deep learning as a technology is great but it won't deliver what AI companies are promising (at least not within the time frame they suggest). We might be heading for a new AI winter soon.
@@alexanderst.6529ai winter not going to happen anytime soon. Momentum is too high, and even if all the science will suddenly stop now, it is done enough to keep specializing, improve on real data from real tasks ai will be tried at after trained on common data and developed e.g. emergent skills, scale using more computation for at least for decade.
What an absolute joy to watch. Impressive, thoughtful and extremely interesting... I saw how long it was and still ate the whole thing 😂 Instantly subscribed!
As someone who ground away learning to code to get out of the literal farms and fields in 2022, then worked successfully in semiconductors for a year before the layoffs hit...this is EXACTLY the kinda shit I'm worried about. Not skynet, not HAL 9000, but 2008 pt 2.
AI has at least made non trained voice typing way better. As a dyslexic person this has been a huge improvement in my life, but the effect AI has had on the internet are not worth it.
Yep. Small AI tools to do a very specific thing are the only thing that seems to have any potential. Like Amazon's AI that summarizes all of a product's reviews or even searches the reviews for certain info for you. Simple, not revolutionary, but improves the experience to make you more likely to Buy The Thing, which is how Amazon makes its money.
The lesson they started with in my first User Oriented Design class is that you have to first figure out what users want and also what they need. Sometimes people know exactly what they want. Sometimes need and sometimes they think they know what they want but the root of that desire is a problem that they either haven’t quite identified correctly or there is a solution that is different to the one they asked for that actually is better or simpler for everyone. Good design engineering figures out the problem and develops a solution for a specific problem or set of use cases. LLMs and other AI algorithms can be used as a tool for very specific use cases especially if the interface is good but they are not General Artificial Intelligence. Like he said there are use cases out there. They just aren’t the broad “everyone will use it” industry destroying takeover that is being sold to people.
@@Kereeaeven big general ai tools like chat gpt and claude 3.5 are astonishingly intelligent when used over their api to execute software functions on the fly.
Yeah. There are good things software can do. But it's not going to be a 1 trillion a year product. I am in an industry where we still pay people to do dictation, and I need certified transcripts But court reporters are using AI to do a rough transcript and then they listen to it and fix. That is a big time saver to skip a step. But it's snot a 1 trillion industry
I am a Boomer with little interest in technology or the internet. But out of amateurish curiosity I began playing with Open AI, and Chat GPT. I was initially interested in the writing aspect. Short stories, song lyrics, etc. Just getting it to understand the premise and scenario was frustrating and took many regenerations to get a response even remotely close to what I had in my mind. It seems to be unable to adjust to plot changes and has no sense of nuance or innuendo. Same thing with the Chat GPT. Based on my limited experience with AI, it is surprisingly easy to "break the BOT" and get nowhere.
Ironically, buying a Pixel phone makes it super easy to ditch Google because Pixels are one of the few models left with unlockable bootloaders. My phone has a completely google free profile for day to day use then a sandboxed profile with google services running in their own sandboxes if the app I need requires them. I use GrapheneOS but there are a few options.
I almost got a dumb phone last week. Unfortunately, there are still a few apps I need for work and for everyday convenience. Contactless payments and bank app being the main ones. Maps is also extremely useful since I'm terrible at knowing where I am going. Might be worth getting two phones, and just having the smart phone off most of the time.
I mean using a tool to quickly ascertain info you double check to speed up how long it takes to learn isnt a bad thing. That is like getting angry you dont need to buy physical journals to read studies anymore because they are all online.
I want a lawyer that writes contracts with quill pens on parchment only, everything else is cheating. In fact if the lawyer doesn't have all the law codes/case law memorized and needs to "look it up" that's also cheating.
It took computer science majors many years of work and billions of dollars to make a computer program that writes worse than a hungover arts major slapping together a last minute project.
I personally would love to see small startups popping up again that focus on making good products, are as self funded as possible, and refuse to ever go public. A friend of mine and I have spoken numerous times over the years about this topic and have both agreed we'd rather pay the employees the same, if not more than we take, give huge yearly bonuses, as many benefits as possible... you know, actually give a shit about the people making the company money. We'd be happy making just enough money each year to keep the company going. Having fun building stuff we love and able to do that until we decided to retire. Sounds like this may be a much larger shared mentality than I thought.
So many things I use daily have major issues that, if a better competitor was to exist, a lot of users would freely abandon the current product. It's just about trying to find a way to stay profitable while staying private, and fighting the greedy need to constantly grow at unhealthy rates.
Thing is we live in an economy of monopolies that will do a hostile takeover of any startup that tries to compete with them. It's virtually impossible to start a new tech company in the current economic climate. This is really just part of late stage capitalism.
here in italy, two months ago, the regional center for learning in school sent to all the teachers a pamphlet to learn how to use chatgpt to create homework for the kids - said homework will be probably done with chatgot. that is the absurdity of AI atm
Was blown away by this episode and feeling a lot more optimistic about the next 50 years. Thank you @AdamConover and you have come such a long way since CH. Have subscribed to both you and Ed after hearing this episode!
The reason social media sites don't work as social media sites is because they're not social media sites. They're ad delivery platforms.
Not even anymore- they're click generators. Most of the junk posts in my feeds aren't ads, they're posts crafted by AI to be interesting enough to drive a click- and that's all they are.
@@lynxminx4 Pages and pages of AI-generated posts plastered with AI-generated ads on the sides. Welcome to the future!
So is Television and newspapers, always have been
Half "the purpose of a system is what it does" and half "the purpose of a system becomes what keeps it going"
Eventually advertisers will not want to pay for ads if no one is seeing them. They addressed this in the video, no one minded a few ads when the platforms were good, and advertisers were happy to pay for ads that actual humans were seeing.
The ad delivery service needs people to deliver the ads to, which means the ad delivery service has an interest in keeping the sites good enough that people want to stick around.
Or at least that’s how it would work if these people didn’t suffer from delusion and brain rot
"I want ai to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for ai to do art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes." - Joanna Maciejewska
In do time. It just turns out that work like accounting and other seemingly complex digital work is easy compared to doing 100% automated 3d real world work. The tec is there already here today or currently being worked on to replace a vast majority of human task and labor. Only thing holding the tec back is more societal and economic then purely technological.
@@jarrettlittle485No it's not societal, is pretty much technological, they are being developed but it's expensive and not as easy as they thought.
Who?
This shit is not there. I've been using the pro version of gpt and Gemini, both are dumb as fuck. My stupid ass often has to correct my AI. I've asked it to do laborious tasks for me like gathering data and it fails at basic tasks like creating an Excel or sheets doc full of the publicly available information it took 17 hours to complete and only had 3 rows filled in.
I've asked it to edit my writing and it often just gives me what I wrote with one or two corrections when I know I've put in 10 errors.
On art, I'm an actual artist. Me against this thing is like davinci against a cat. Not even on the same level - I'm college educated. I know how many fingers belong on a hand and I can spell words in order.
And on top of all that, it's answers are often wrong, which is actually causing answers on Google and Bing to also be wrong. Like I have reached the point where I no longer even trust Google search because it has now answered wrong 3 times.
I am slightly smarter than average. I am way more intelligent than my AI chatbots. I can perform all tasks better than my AI chatbots and faster, too.
@BreakingGaia good thing you're not a programmer
"The rot economy" -- what an apt term for the enshittification we're experiencing across the board.
"enshittification" is such a great word
@@bonnerin0It's perfectly cromulent
Trump economy is another good word for it. It's accelerated when you legalize stock buybacks for companies with revenue that used to get invested. And slash corporate tax rates on top.
Funny, "rot economy" was a very good term, that Ed proceeded to butcher by explaining something completely different. He should have said "inflation economy" or "bubble economy".
He did not explain enpoopification at all! He just tried and failed to explain WHY it's happening.
@@auraguard0212 Ed's been making the rounds in the leftist podcast sphere recently and, having listened to his material on several different podcasts (including his own), he just doesn't seem to be able to provide much in the way of insightful commentary. It's a lot of indignation and a bunch of half-assed explanations to justify it, but not a lot of substance to back it up.
As the type of tech enthusiast who would spend all my money on having the latest tech because it was fascinating. Crypto, nfts, metaverse, and AI has completely made me stop caring about technology
Me, but at the start of smartphones. Few years ago now, I dropped my phone on a bike ride. I didn't realize it until the next day. A friend told me to google this 'find my phone' phrase and sure enough google gave me an exact location of my phone. I didn't enter a phone # or verify anything nor do I remember signing up for this feature but I won't say I didn't because I might have. My phone was run over and absolutely destroyed yet google pinpointed it to a corner of an intersection which is exactly where I found it. That scared me.
You Forgot how web3 was going to be the new internet :)
That's a good way to put it. Same here, I love tech and trying new things. And watching videos about new stuff coming soon.
But with AI and similar, it's a "no thanks" everytime.
@@dynamicphotography_ I think maybe you haven't given AI a fair shake. Just as a chatbot, the advanced voice mode versions of the lated model from Chat-GPT is actually pretty cool. It's a good way to bounce ideas off of another person when another person isn't available, or when you're not ready to share the ideas yet because they're still new. It's also basically Google on steroids.
I was also able to use it to learn how to build a PC when videos/google failed to answer my questions. Like, no one can tell me how to build a budget PC that's also upgradable all the way to modern hardware, and figure out where it's better to put more money into the build now vs saving on cheap parts now that are easy to replace later.
Luckily you're not really the customer, because mega corporations don't rely on making a profit to deliver a return to their investors through dividends, instead they rely entirely on stock price increases, which means they constantly need to convince investors that they are able to take advantage of whatever is fueling "growth" in share prices.
"All things are justified for growth" is the motto of a cancerous tumor.
Amen
this unironically goes so hard wtf
Literally free market capitalism
A big fire is like that too.
@@VeteranVandal True.
None of this AI false hype surprises me. I live in a big tech city, and the attitude of "new technology is inherently good and worth using and we're not going to ask ourselves whether it actually improves our lives" is super prevalent
Watching the AI billboards in San Francisco suddenly clutter the skyline, because they're so desperate to sell it, was everything (and a reason I left after living there my entire life.)
AI can be an useful tool like a search engine is and it can be a toy. But all that blabla about AGI is bs because the technology is not capable of doing anything like AGI, it's simply not possible with a prediction model. They are sophisticated search engines, not our next overlord.
Ugh
Reminds me of VR. Who wants to walk around with an expensive computer on their head any hoodlum can just steal and run away with. On paper it sounds good, but in real life practice it doesn't work. Life is GTA5
@@maniacos9620exactly what I use it for. I can verbal vomit a whole mouthful of explaining what I’m searching for and bam! Very refined search that almost every time, it’s exactly what I was looking for. And it gives the “quote” hyperlink so you can just go right to the page.
"What if all of your emails could be in the room around you?"
Me, who has worked at an extremely understaffed customer help center: please no
Customer service is gonna be 90-99% replaced over the next few years. It's almost there already. Realistic voices, company information based model fine tuning, fast inference time (groq and embed company ASICs) etc. this is gonna be common place if not already common place.
@@SahilP2648I’m sure the AI will be GREAT at alleviating customer concerns and addressing complaints /s
@@SahilP2648nah, I'd hate that. I don't shop anywhere with AI kiosks. I want an actual human. It's bad enough I have to press 1 for English and if I had to deal with an AI chatbot for everything I'd just stary stealing at that point. Who's going to stop me, AI?
@@SahilP2648 we'll see
@@SahilP2648it barely exists because companies don't want to pay for it, regardless of whether it works on not. I hate dealing with customer service when something goes wrong because it barely exists these days.
Talking about "AI will make movies in the future" btw, AI work is not copyrightable. So if Disney decides to do all their movies in AI moving forward, congrats, those are all immediately open to the public to use as they see fit. That would be hilarious, but that is another reason why it's not "the future".
Except you forgot the step where Disney bought a politician that made AI created 'art' copyrightable to the company that generated it. That's kind of Disney's thing.
AI art needs to be detectable for its copyright to be void first. Right now you need very skilled humans to spot current gen AI art problems. We're waiting on programmers to solve this problem too.
copyright is meaningless in an AI generated future. Now, I don't know to what degree anyone will care about AI generated movies or TV shows, they will probably be terrible for many moons to come, But the point is not that you make money off one product that you sell. The point is, you make money off the ability to GENERATE products users WANT.
@@davidbutler9323who wants AI produced art? Seems like a very small market of people who would find it acceptable, not on a quality level, but on a conceptual level.
@@AbsoluteFruit Well, no one until it is good, and then everyone. But i honestly dont think ai art in the true sense of art conceived of and produced by ai, is around the corner. We will get ai/human collaboration for some time still. This will make basically anyone into a film maker. Who will watch ai art then? Well, you will. Your kid will make ai movies of a quality previously only possible with million dollar budgets.
You know what kills me about the Metaverse? It's that Zuckerberg thought -- I mean he really thought! -- that the best way to sell it would be to make it about office work. Like, "you could go into a meeting virtually". That was the selling point. Like we were supposed to be excited... by office work meetings.
The office in this case has a furhter reach into your life. That means that anywhere there is a connection you can be expectd to be called by your boss at anytime and sit through a meeting thousands of miles away pssibly on vacation. Yea!
💯% this, every time I'm on a video call I think "You know what would make this better? If there was someone's virtual head in way of the slideshow presenter" 😅
I get what you’re saying, and I agree it’s a dumb idea, but you’re missing a pretty important aspect as to why it was advertised that way. They weren’t trying to sell direct to consumers, they were trying to sell to other businesses. There’s generally more money in B2B solutions than B2C.
@@BigDungeonEnergy1 Zuck probably likes office meetings because he's the big boy in charge. He has way more power and agency than almost any other business meeting attendee.
ikr? hes soooo dumb
What I most worry about is the *ABSOLUTELY HUMONGOUS* amount of power that these companies and products consume for not really doing anything productive whatsoever
Nvidia has the first step in solving this problem with the Blackwell chip, basically general computing will end and specialized computing will take place and the result will be a dramatic decrease in energy consumption. I encourage you to go look at the Blackwell product that Nivea has prototyped
I would also say that it's disingenuous to say that they produce nothing. Consider what alpha fold is doing for us
@@HalfWiseFennec I have briefly taken a look at Blackwell. It's good to see that they are seriously considering, for example, low-bit-precision computing to tackle power requirements
@@HalfWiseFennec My critique is mainly aimed at the mushrooming industry of GenAI startups ... ChatGPT and its many clones and variants
You do realize Adam and all these comments are the same people from the 90s saying the internet is a nothing burger. History repeats itself.
silicon valley is so infuriating
imagine someone running an ice cream truck and just handing out free ice cream all the time. well, of course that ice cream truck is going to be the most popular one ever
but how do you cover your costs? how do you make any money? the silicon valley answer to this is, 'we'll just use VC money and constantly operate at a loss. we have no plan beyond that'
and that would be kind of funny except in the analogy you drive all of the other ice cream trucks out of business before your own unsustainable plan collapses and now nobody can get ice cream anymore
they're being allowed to cheat the system, doing damage to actual businesses forced to run within the margins of a budget, and then being called visionary geniuses because... they run companies at a loss and release products that only seem good for a while because those products are vastly underpriced
Do you also know how they sell token access through their API for applications that integrate openai and claude?
It's Uber model and Ifood(Basil). The take the market fist, with a LOT of loss. Then they bring the cost at normal again, but this time they own everything. The ice cream will be the same price, but know it's only one brand. Welcome to capitalism.
@@Pirata_Vermelhoexcept that it's not really the capitalist model that's broken here. It's specifically the VC based tech companies being able to get away with shit because they claim it's different from traditional business.
@@Ornithopter470 tell me, these "real capitalism" is with us in the room?
@@Pirata_Vermelho not what I said at all. In a sane universe, Uber and doordash both would have probably gone bankrupt long before they became household names. The lack of a realistic map leading to profitability for these companies should have been a serious warning sign. But, VC money.
There's no way anyone could go onto Facebook in 2024 and say, "Yeah, this is a product that I want to use." And this sludge of suggested posts, ads, AI clickbait, and more is expanding to LinkedIn, TH-cam, Instagram and more. All of these platforms are going to die if they don't do something about it.
I dont see You tube dyhing anytime soon. but if it did. I wouldnt care. All it has done is make a bunch of children billionares who terrorize society. ANd you tube is essentially ad delivery for the most part. Funny how they invest so hard in ad block decetion but no quality of the site.
Facebooks only useful feature is groups, otherwise I no longer use it.
@@tossaja The Facebook groups I'm in are spammed with literal porn and clickbait "so and so died" posts.
@@pileofwit yeah, maybe its better in groups that use tiny languages like mine (finnish). Very rarely you see anything like that.
I hate that I have to use the apps in a way that they're not designed to get basic functions. Having to get plugins to filter out all the rubbish and see the people I follow. Some of it feels spiteful too like if you go onto the following tab on Instagram it removes the notifications and messages buttons. So you can't use 2/3 of the functionality you would probably want without going onto the terrible For You tab.
My company announced they want to add AI to our job to make it “easier” yet I’m like “Can’t we just get an extra day off and keep our pay?” 😒
Have fun. There are a couple of models crammed into our monitoring software that basically generate tickets with no useful, and possibly wrong, information in it and cause panic. It's made our jobs worse.
I mean, AI is what would allow that without losing productivity
@@ax14pz107 there are cases where ML is useful, but that kind of situation isn't one of them, at least not without a very well designed set of input heuristics curated to be relevant to imminent failures. Otherwise the artificial idiot is prone to false positives and false negatives.
@@kotoroshinoto oh yeah definitely. It's just now an expensive buzzword and the victims have to justify the cost by cramming it into their products regardless of effectiveness.
@@JonnyFootman-k5t Except: that is not what is happening. What's happening is that companies are using the AI to increase productivity, then filling that workload with more work in an attempt to increase output, and when these generative AI systems (or, you know, not-actually-neural-net-just-automation-with-buzzwords-attached systems) fail, they'll still expect the increased output.
At NO point do things ever get better for the workers.
One factor to consider when we talk about bubbles.
Not all investors are dumb, but the smart ones know when to put money in a bubble, and when to sell and run away.
That makes it pop even stronger.
Gives it an extra pop.
That is actually what makes it worse, its called pump and dump.
@@TheMissingxtension
Oh, it has a technical term too?
Good to know, thanks.
@@ChristianIceIt's a term stolen from crypto but it's basically the same thing
@@The12thOwl the concept has been around since at least early 1900s and the term has been used since at least the 90s. (Can't be bothered to Google exact years)
My AI professor literally told me Artificial Intelligence is at best a projection of Computer Scientist goals and at worst a marketing term to fool people.
You're going to need to see beyond your teachers...
I mean... Look at where he ended up...?
@@ariloulei814 your professor is incompetent
@RAZR_Channel Ended up as a professor? Sounds good to me.
This is true. I have had presentations from companies claiming they use AI when in reality it was people doing all the work.
Haha stupid teacher. This what many people said before chatgpt came out.
As a Microsoft employee that was recently laid off, it’s a lot bleaker internally than it seems. In order to minimise the perceived impact of obscene spending, tech companies are laying off their employees and deprioritising the quality\ security of their existing services. Morale is at an all time low for many tech employees, as CEO’s focus primarily on appeasing shareholders over the short term.
Over the last 3 years, I experienced a 1% pay raise, followed by 0% pay raise and then finally a retrenchment. I watched my team diminish in size to around 1/4 and the average employee tenure more than half due to retrenchments. Tech companies love to say it’s because of massive hiring during Covid but it doesn’t explain how so many 10-20 year veterans have been laid off. Satya’s legacy will end up being the introduction of a layoff culture and frivolous spending.
Woah!!! Very illuminating. Thank you so much sharing!
All of these companies announced MASSIVE layoffs at the same exact time they announced their MASSIVE investment into AI. Then they tell us it's because of economic slowdown, that we need to "upskill", that it's somehow everyone else's fault.
The tech industry fired literally hundreds of thousands of highly qualified software developers---a skill that requires years of training AND a brain that can look at the world in a specific and uncommon sort of way, and tech companies are saying Upskilling is required???
I call Bull$#!+
That's like telling elite mountaineers they're just not working hard enough at climbing.
My theory?: this is 100% a repeat of the 'white collar recession' of the early '90s. A large swathe of offices would fire a bunch of necessary people, leaving the survivors to do the work of 3 people---so a lot of necessary work was unfinished or done badly. In the short term, stocks went up. After a while, they'd hire 1 person, so everywhere was still understaffed. That new hire was desperate, so they accepted less money. The overall wages go down, and the middle class shrinks some more.
That's what's happening now in Tech.
People on cs subreddits tell you this, it not just companies.
You know what, if AI is the means through which sillycon valley companies commit collective suicide, I'm in support of AI.
one of the biggest defense internet billonaire bootlickers present for the ultra powerful corporation and billionaire is that they "create job"
There is a causal relationship, but not what you think. Companies looking to invest in AI are trying to cut expenses to free up capital for that investment. That's one big cause of the tech layoffs. Another is that they just plain overhired.
The best thing they could do with AI is automate away CEOs and give their paychecks to the workers
Agreed, also better management, more productivity, and more pay for workers who actually worked more than these CEOs
200 IQ point from a humanitarian perspective lol
AI sure is a lot better at risk assessment than CEOs anyway. Plus, AI doesn't have an ego.
Amen
@@crossovermultiverse3882 the trouble is "ai" is just pattern matching and generating
from previous data. so all the bad management ideas and descisions will be amplified in a feedbak loop...
Last week my logitech mouse driver poped up anoucing their new ai stuff.
what the fuck does my mouse drive need ai for, this is nft all over again, but worse
Reminds me of the time I played an NFT card game and had to confirm the transaction per turn. Talk about unnecessary.
Logitech is dogshit. I don't know why anyone buys their products.
I think it is mainly a push to collect investors. Like vertical farming.
Your mouse has to leverage the power of AI and also be on a blockchain!
To spy on you?
I think people will slowly realize is that this current term “AI” is just essentially a data processing and search engine trick.
All the LLM generative machine learning models are almost random technology in search of a product. The inability for people to describe what it’s useful for is the first sign of a non product.
To make a product you need a concept of how this will change or improve your life, that is the only important thing. And all these companies truly do not understand this. Apple has been doing this the proper way since the 70s, including the way it’s integrated into real PRODUCTS, not a product itself. Find tech that enables the experience you want not the other way around. And never jumping into tech thinking it will transform everything.
This has kind of been my experience with it. "Oh, it's Google you can talk to"
I was a little grumpy this morning because I had to come into work early but hearing that Chatgpt loses 700,000$ dollars a day makes it all worth it.
This information is incorrect, first it's not loses, it's cost to run. Secondly, this was calculated by and outside company based on what they think it costs to run. Also since this doesn't take into account any revenue...
@@mikiexif they build data centers to store all the junk produced by AI with no revenu at all, then it's losses.
@@livinghuman2298Acording to CEO they are profitable
Put a little pep in my step as well.
Facebook wasnt profitable for 10 years just to give perspective until they were able to work out how to turn the social into a profitable platform. Now its essential. These kinds of setbacks are what tech founders have seen many times its all part of being the world leader and getting there first. Its really not an unsolvable issue.
Adam purposefully wearing a shirt that messes up video compression to get the AI overlords off his track is genius.
Wear more QR codes and “face / gait recognition” camouflage?
@@HoardingcorpsesI thought it's called Moiré, its a shutter effect you can also find in reality if you change your point of view in regards to two overlapping, similar raster cutouts in metal for example. But yes, I was trying to make a joke 😁
@@robertbensch7748 You were sucessfully on you joke. I laughtet at least. You seeemed like you knew what you were talking about in the original comment while the other guy was explaining something that It was UTTER OBVIOUS that you already knew.
@@Hoardingcorpses No no! That's fascinating, thank you!
Haha very clever mate!
When game executives got excited about adding NFT to every conceivable game, I remember thinking "Which gamer actually wants this? Which gamer asked for this? It seems like the executives are very excited about this, and the average game consumer couldn't be bothered to give a damn."
Now we have AI buttons on mice and keyboards.
Is anyone else getting "NFT game item" vibes from this?
I suppose a valid application of AI to game design would be in making the bots less stupid or procedurally generated levels to be less boring but I can't imagine management limiting themselves to useful applications when there's so much hype.
@@fPonias1seen a great mod that uses character descriptions to create unique portraits for generated NPCs. Pretty sweet!
Yeah but it's worse because AI has actual use cases and you can fool people into thinking that it's presence in your rice cooker is necessary lol
Gamers who wanted to trade rare items in alternative markets were pretty stoked for a new area to speculate in
95% of the ai they are pushing solves a problem the world doesnt have
This shit here is BRILLIANT!!!!
I just found your channel while browsing for information on the AI bubble bursting. I'm thrilled to learn about this info (actually, it's pretty fucking depressing but....). As you said, some of what Zitron said validates my own thoughts on the AI hype. FYI, I've been in tech since 1979 and still continue to love it to this day. These discussions are sobering but they are honest and accurate. Keep up the good work, bro!! SUBBED.
"The markets are disconnected from value" nail on the head there
Always has been.Wall street started off as a fixed cattle trading market. US capitalism is based in fraud
? Ai is probably under invested in in my opinion. It's world changing.
@@MrWizardGG you're right, it sure is world changing. Training AI models has caused a massive spike in electricity usage and computer components manufacturing to support those training efforts, negatively impacting our environment.
It's also been implemented without regulation on a grand scale, causing as others have said to be the "enshittification" of the internet at large. Google is largely useless now and social media has been flooded with ai powered bot accounts, a lot of which are malicious.
Don't forget about the massive layoffs in the tech industry that were triggered by these AI models rendering human input "redundant" and expendable, and the constant threat of theft/actual theft that is occurring to artists who post their work online almost anywhere in order to train models to replicate their own works royalty and license free.
I'm *so* glad that the tech industry pushed the use of AI onto the general public /s
@@MrWizardGGI think about half of this interview is on providing arguments against your perspective.
@tomazferreira6990 can you name a single reason lol? These guys have no idea what they're talking about.
Some of these tech companies are trying way too hard to make A.I. into a "thing." It's like... Stop trying to make "fetch" happen...
Yes hahahahaha
AI as of now has more in common with procedural generation than sapient intelligence.
It's been decades of this...
Hahaha!
It is a thing tho...
Those insane Google AI answers are actually gathered from really old forum posts and web articles, most of which were parodies. AI simply can't handle irony.
Right because it only knows how to produce sentences like the ones it has seen, it does not know what any of the words mean or the mood, voice, or intentions of the speaker.
@@timothystamm3200 Yup, computers are not human. (shocking...) Computers cannot decipher human context or meaning in anything they copy. Sure, you can "program" a computer into deciphering mood or meaning but that's not the same thing. Also, not even the greatest programmer in the world can do that for every conceivable thought or question.
It can handle irony...by taking it at face value.
It can, but you have to guide ChatGPT on how to do it. To achieve that, you need a lot of knowledge about the subject, along with significant time investment and prompting skills. You must communicate, clarify, regulate, and optimize the numerous results the AI provides. If you only have small tasks and do them infrequently, it might not be worth using ChatGPT as a newbie. However, if you have to handle simple tasks with files that contain hundreds or thousands of pages, it is definitely worth using ChatGPT, especially if you don’t want to program like a nerd. and yes this text is written with the help of AI, why? because english is not my mother tongue but I want to communicate with you smoothly with less time invest
Google AI is so bad. 99% of the time it spits out a bogus and almost humorous answer. Not a helpful one
I'm surprised Adam hasn't talked about the Chicago School of Business. How this particular school started the business mantra of "If you ain't growing, you are dying."; and how this school of thought has slithered it's way through, not just BIG business but also small, businesses in the US and wreaked so much havoc.
Where to read more
@@bobbyologun1517
"Where to read more?"
Ohhh you know where, son ;-)
@@the81kid ?
I always like to use the local BBQ place in your hometown as an example of this. They are sometimes only open 1 day a week. When they run out of stock, they close. They usually employ a good number of people and if your BBQ is good enough, you can make quite a living from this. If everything is paid and you got nice things, why would you want to open a second or third location other than just pure greediness. If 5 people are the reason the BBQ is good and you try to split that up or add to it, chances are the quality is going to go down along with your reputation. Being unique with only 1 location also can add to the value. People waiting in line when they announce they're sold out are always bummed but look forward to the next time they're open. It keeps the demand high and the money rolling in. Personally I think that's worth more than 10,000 Subway restaurants.
no he doesn't, that's why he asked.
Companies: Yeah, we can lose millions on this garbage program that shits mediocrity.
Also Companies: No, you can't have a raise. Costs like that are untenable.
Oh wow I feel like you are in my brain.
Apple to their unions: no, that's unworkable and too expensive for us, we're not agreeing to that
Also Apple: Hey Shareholders, we're announcing a $110 billion buyback program! (Equivalent to giving away $750k per employee)
@VideoGameStarChannelSupreme if they keep buying back stock, they can eventually go private and no longer worry about maintaining stock price.
@@thegamesninja3119 I think it is woefully expensive as it currently is, and not to mention that even if they buy back stock, the price will just keep going up and maintain a $3T market cap, so my hunch is that it'll get more expensive as the market maintains as identical a valuation as pre-buyback.
Granted, I suck at getting jokes so my bad if I forgot to laugh xD
@VideoGameStarChannelSupreme likely more sarcasm than anything else. Use of failed humor to make a point. Bubble chasers now have Web3 to try to get rich quick, so they are left with buying back stock.
Stock buybacks are a valid choice... if a company has no clue as to what they can work on next... or what it means to be human.
Again, sarcasm. My humorist very dry at times. Just call me Sandy.
My husband works in tech. We're very concerned what's coming later this year or next. When the AI bubble bursts, it'll take a number of industries with it, and likely be the thing that bursts a bunch of other bubbles.
Oh the curse of living in interesting times
You are either lying, or your husband is an idiot.
Here's the thing about bubbles, *You can't see them*
People think AI is a bubble because they keep comparing it to .com.
Main concerns with 'bubbles' is people dump money into a thing, and nothing profitable comes out of it. But we are already seeing returns on basic AI ( not even pushing agi groups ).
Where the new modeling techniques help critique existing narrow AI systems.
If you have savings, get out while you can. It’s never too late to change careers, but it will soon be too late to hang on to the one he once had.
Thing is, there is a reason why at least 5 countries have outright banned AI, some since GPT3. Other issue hardly mentioned is the CO2. The amount of energy used to train these LLMs is shocking, it is is not sustainable. Big tech knows this and you can find out just how bad if you do the research. The reason it will halt is ironically not related to the technical problems that are facing but instead climate change. There is a reason why FinalSpark is taking a different approach (yes they mention this issue) but what they do is controversial, since it deal with ethics... after all, using 'human biological tissue'... best is to research this.
@@stonykark yeah... We just bought a house and have a baby on the way, he's looking at other options. His work has always been a bit unstable, usually going from one startup to another every couple years, but his current job is the most stable yet. Just not sure it's going to stay that way :/
In French, Chat GPT sounds like, "Chat, j'ai pété," which means, "Cat, I farted." That says a lot about where this is going and how people feel.
Yeah in french you're supposed to write "Tchat" but people seem to use the English word which makes it very confusing too.
"like wiping your ass with silk "
It definitely farted last week at the Presidential debate. We weren’t supposed to see the Biden shit show. He was supposed to be cleaned up using AI
CNN held the “debate” at the Georgia Tech basketball arena to get around the robust CNN network security
Then the two candidates had separate camera feeds (split screens at times)
The Biden campaign and media went to the DC FEMA center and deployed AI to clean him up. The telltale signs were all there. Cardboard appearance and black edging contouring his suit
AI is definitely in bubble territory
Always polite to warn your poor cat though
For me as a teacher, I find GPT to be incredibly helpful in creating examples to populate assignments with. Like example story prompts or example problems for students to practice concepts. But that is basically a fancy Google search which is what all of us teachers do when trying to make curriculum happen.
I don't necessarily think that people are freaking out at nothing re: the AI taking jobs thing. I'm a hobbyist artist who follows a lot of professional industry artists, and AI-generated "art" has already dealt a massive blow to that community. Just recently, WACOM, one of the brands that makes drawing tablets for digital art, used AI to render a dragon in their packaging and marketing, and they got called out for it. If a multi million dollar company that supposedly caters towards artists decided to cut costs by using generative AI to create packaging, what does that imply for all the other companies out there who give even less of a shit about the morals and ethics of how these programs are trained (stealing artists' work) and are even more willing to cut out professional human labor in order to save a quick buck? Ugh. I just hate it all and I hate how much it's being forced on us. I hate having AI search bars integrated into apps to the point where you have no other choice but to use it. I hate Being fed google's AI responses. I hate it all.
feel this.
you can get away from it. web 1.0 is still out there, you just have to accept some convenience hits. it's worth it.
The dilution of real people and real products with a wave a garbage is a real problem
Yeah, true words, it a shit product which steals IP to reduce labor costs, and if laws wont stop this, i will be desastrous
FedEx killed 3000 EU jobs this month. Cust. Serve and simiilar. Replaced with AI and foreign vendors.
I felt allll of this. I'm an artist too and it all makes me sick. I just came from a work event and they basically just preached AI to us and "how good it is". 🙄🙄
I saw a meme once that summed it up nicely. "I dont want Ai to create art, entertainment or learn for me, I want Ai to clean my house, do my taxes, do the mundane things so I can create art, entertaiment, learn new things and have time to socialize." - Ai is targetting the low hanging capitalistic fruit so they can make profit. If there is a bubble lets hope it burst soon so some real progress can happen that benefits us all.
you think coherent text and art production is low-hanging fruit? Stuff that was formerly considered potentially impossible?
@@davidbutler9323 In context mate, ie Ai and the data they trained them on to gain the investment they needed. Its a business built on the potential of massive returns, they had to target something that could get them over the next investment hurdle, robotics are much much harder and slower create that swirl of invester interest. In the world of Artifical Intelligence Investment, coherent text and art production is low hanging fruit... To a human no obviously they are not.
from the perspective of a coder - honestly it's been disastrous because the managerial class has bought into it, and the people actually doing the work are being dismissed or having the team size reduced because ai can spit out mediocre code snippets. and now there's less of us doing the same job and a lot of our time is taken up by trying to tweak the bad code to actually work in the broader context of whatever our product is
AI should replace middle management, not workers.
The thing is that even code that has been written and checked by people still gets released with bugs(sometimes glaring ones) that were not spotted because you simply cannot anticipate every possible issue that crops up in real world circumstances. Now these software companies are moving to a world where they are going to be putting out whole products with massive amounts of code that they are assuming works, sight unseen, that no one even knows how it works because an AI wrote it, and it seems to work during a limited beta.
I'm not even talking about just smartphones or games. This can happen with airliners and cars.
I mean I am a software developer and I can tell you for sure it saves so much time. I am 50-300% more productive. Tbh the big companies should be threatened since all the people who were fired can create startups that can threaten these big companies using generative AI. It really does allow people to start single developer companies and develop games etc. which wasn't possible before.
@@GiovannaIwishyou not high IQ workers* low IQ jobs should indeed be replaced by AI like customer service, fast food, factory jobs etc.
Don't worry bro, they will see their day
Setting a reminder for myself to come back here in 3 years and see: what AI investing looks like, how profitable AI systems have been, and whether or not it's revolutionized anything.
Funny enough, listening to this is making me think of the modern AAA games industry: over-promise an idea, under deliver as a product, urge that it will get better with time, then monetize every step of the way.
Abandon midway, repeat
Abandon at the exact moment where the monetization produces profit, don't care at all about the quality and start a new project. I've simply stopped buying AAA games at this point like I've stopped using Facebook. It's mostly garbage so why pay more for it. I drive a 96 pickup so maybe I'm just not a good person to ask about this shit.
It's a popular corporate model because sadly, they've found that it works. Lots of people buy into the hype. Elon Musk is the king of this.
That's not just the games industry. It's practically the entire tech sector. "It's just a prototype. It will get infinitely better. It's inevitable." is what they all say. It's a cult. It's everywhere.
Seeing the AI images becoming inbred due to the massive numbers of AI images online that gets fed back to the AI made me stop seeing genAI as much of a threat tbh
Like at the very least they will be forced to add SOMETHING to those images to differentiate them from the man made ones, so there will always be a way to tell
This is somewhat the foundations for the Dead Internet & the Dark Forrest theories.
Eventually, so much of the internet will be full of so much artificial nonsense that it will supposedly drive real human users to a handful of private and secure services, in hopes of getting away from the bots.
Honestly, with how much nonsense is already on the internet, I feel those theories aren't too far off.
Ai art was never good to begin with lol
@@DreamcastSoupYT unless the person "doing" the art takes like... Idk 4+ hours "making" the image... And I'm at that point just like "dude just learn to draw, you clearly have an image in your head. Learn to draw so you can put it on paper"
that's funny because that's not happening and you're just repeating what you heard
I feel like if I studied every artist and every image ever uploaded, I'd at least be able to draw hands.
The hand problem has been solved a long time ago.
@@pin65371Eh, I still see messed up hands time to time in AI generated images. This is just AI bro cope
@@dreamwanderer9769 i still see messed up hands with humans sometimes, this is just human bro cope
@@pin65371No it wasn't you're full of shit it still does hands horribly.
@@pin65371a long time ago I saw a baby having a half leg half hand
The great irony is that all these CEOs' jobs are probably the rare job that AI would actually be GOOD for, but of course they'll try to jam AI into everything but the job that affects THEM.
NEVER train your AI off Reddit data.
I was laughing my ass off when I saw that Google was buying Reddit data... I knew where it would end and was not mistaken lol
Yeah they should've used discord instead
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I heard that....
Or fanfic websites
ALWAYS train your AI off reddit data
My favorite: when companies and CEOs looked at completely crazy results and said that it was the AI programs being "creative."
The irony here is that people in the creative industry today, the digital space, including the very platform we're watching on, were accused of not being "creative" and not being real "journalists" or not being real entertainment.
All "real" means is incumbency.
It always just a data model compiling something halfway interesting out of a near infinite number of seeds and a massive training set. I'm curious how these companies take this stuff to enterprise customers. "Our system will let you fire 99% of staff for a tool that 10% chance of providing correct data."
@@SloMoMonday At the Enterprise level its about using the decades of data created that no one can parcel or use in any meaningful way. LLM not getting things right is mostly as it always has been, look to the humans not understanding the technology or just having bad data sets. Sound like everyone wants magic and is mad when its going to take a lot of smart people and years to make it better.
@@SloMoMonday Humans work off of data models in their head. Enterprise uses humans.
ai has hit a wall and plateau'd. machine learning can only go so far
As a software engineer this is the first time i feel happy that this AI trend is failing, no one wants it and it seems that corporations just continue to push it onto us , i get that AI will make certain things easy but its going to replace the last remnants of the human experience - what little we have left of it anyway.
Chat gpt is an excellent tool
What HUMAN EXPERIENCE you talking about???
Be ready, you are going to earn less, much less.
@@theonesithtorulethemall The one where you Stare at a computer screen for 8+ hours while being in the vicinity of other humans who are doing the same. Isolation with company!
still interested in future of AI and robotics
lets see if AI, robots and self driving car can be a reality in next decade
fusion on the other hand is still far away
breakthrough in battery tech with even current solar panel tech
will destroy all fusion funding
20 years ago, employers were pissing themselves to hire me to finish "web" projects (you know, that thing you're using right now).
Less than 20% of those projects were ever finished, despite investors pouring several million dollars into them.
The result is an Internet where server failure and UI bugs are the norm rather than the exception.
Then one day, those same investors who friends ran their projects into the ground decided to shovel all that money into AI projects instead of Web projects.
As with the first round, the investors have no idea what they are investing in, nor whom to hire to lead the way.
As with the first round, our lives are all about to get worse because mass media listens to billionaires instead of the people they hire to do the actual work.
AI is an incredible achievement. It takes an insane amount of effort from thousands of supposedly smart people to make computers bad at math.
That IS odd, isn't it? The part about AI being poor with math, be it arithmetic or calculus. I know it is true, as of a few months ago, when I checked myself and confirmed with other people.
@@EllieK it makes sense if you understand what it is. GenAI (the textual form) is really autocompletion on steroids. It is phenomenonal at giving you a "response", but not necessarily an "answer". Because it isn't doing any math. What it will take, is another magnitude jump in capability. It needs to figure out the right combination of tools to answer any question, and GenAI will be only one of those tools. Not saying that this is impossible - maybe in 10 years we may see something like this, who knows - but ChatGPT, or any other GenAI tool, just isn't there yet. OpenAI and it's competitors should really stop the hype and focus on what they have achieved. Which isn't bad at all. But it's far from the panacea they're pretending it to be.
"supposedly smart"
As someone who is getting a PhD in AI, I want to stress that the vast majority actual researchers do not buy into the whole AGI craze. You know how association doesn't equal causation? Well LLMs are just association machines, they have no reasoning or ability to understand causation.
One of the beautiful things about science is that when you try to understand things that were never designed to be understood, the more you learn, the more you realize how much harder and more complicated the next step is. In this case, by coming closer to somethung that "feels" intelligent but isn't, we have learned a lot about what it really means to have a human-like intelligence, and how much harder it will be to get the rest of the way there. We are not close to AGI, researchers know this, but you can make a lot of money in the short term by scamming investors, so people are gonna go for the short term money instead.
@Singularity606 LOL Your comment is laughable. Someone posted on Twitter the other day asking ChatGPT "which number is bigger 9.11 or 9.9?" And of course ChatGPT answered "9.11 is bigger than 9.9" It can't even get elementary school math right.
To be fair to Google about the fiber, the other providers fought them every step of the way. They did everything they could to prevent Google fiber from entering the areas they controlled because they knew they would have to improve their infrastructure and pricing to compete.
And its still going strong where it did grab a foothold. I'm a GF subscriber paying $70/mo for 1gb. But I realize how lucky I am compared to a lot of places.
So you are saying the internet search monopoly had trouble trying to break into the already monopolized telecom industry?
@@mattmullett9521 America? It's still insane for me, as an European that pays $8.5/mo for 1/1 Gbps to imagine how bad it is in America when it comes to fiber. Especially considering how America was always considered as"that technologically advanced" country here.
I remember over a decade ago before google fiber was anywhere other than a couple of cities, there was a guy offering gigabit speed internet, and ISPs sued him until he ran out of money. capitalism is such a drain on innovation.
I'm still mad about the sugar substitute that is a protein, so it's low calorie, low glycemic, called brazzein. Naturally occurring in plants in West Africa, and the people trying to bring it to market were blocked. It's only now starting to come out, I'm guessing after sugar companies were able to get their hands on it.
Or even the drug risug that is reversible male contraceptive first made in India that was stopped because it was too effective. It could last 8 years, so it was made not available, and an American version that lasts 1 year is being worked on. Not only that, but risug is already market ready, but vasalgel is still years away.
@@ArtemGms Jesus, I didn't know that it was that cheap
This is the first time I ever heard of Ed Zitron and I've never laughed out loud like an idiot in the middle of housework so many times that I'm instantly obsessed with anything he ever does
Highly recommend his Better Offline podcast!
Robert Evans regales Ed Zitron with stories of awful people on Behind the Bastards a lot. He was on the Steve Jobs episodes. He is very funny and I love his voice
@@djadelaney ah I knew I recognized his voice
Google The Man Who Killed Google Search
Yeah honestly I am impressed.
Best use for GPT has been coming up with dnd stuff that isn't seriously important, like scene descriptions, character names, ect.
It will make any puzzle into whatever theme you want, fits any dungeon, shrine, or crypt
I literally used it to build a website from scratch with no web development knowledge. It does have legitimate practical uses
The problem with humans is we are quick to judge and think things would remain the same.
@@Codemanlex humanity is experiencing extreme cope atm.
Yes, a generic background story, other models with images to create something generic and doesn't need ultra precision.
Ai, basically stealing our own hard earned work and talents and selling it back to us as a “convenience”
For real
AI is a BS generator, ask it anything out of ordinary and it starts hallucinating.
ChatGPT is literally free
@@HalfWiseFennec
i tried it a few times.
it's good for trivial stuff.
but if you press it for any specific formulas for anything that isnt trivial, it gives you either incorrect, or circular responses.
Yes; it can literally copy someone's blog post and spill it out as if it was novelty text or imitate style that artist has had perfected for years.
My conspiracy: The AI tech is not the end game. Major platforms having full autonomy to license and use everyone’s content, including IP, that was once used for teaching data is now the “product” they sell back to companies that don’t want to hire professionals.
Wow! I never thought of that....
My conspiracy: learn to type
Yep, I'm convinced the C suite 1% elite all hang out together and just collectively hate the rest of humanity, so anything that can replace or exploit us is appealing to them sitting in their bizarro echo chamber.
🤣Generative AI was just another tech scam like NFTs & Dogecoin to swindle greedy gullible investors 🤣
The current copyright laws we have are outdated and serve the benefits of no one, not even Big companies, and everyone relies on interpretation of the law by lawyers.
Moon Channel once said in a video regarding Nintendo's aggressive instance on protecting their IPs that "we you have some of the most valuable IPs in the world, everyone else is just waiting for an opportunity to take them away from you. AI being just a means for other big companies to straight up steal IPs from their competitors does makes sense to me.
I think we'll see this through in the next few years. Perhaps AI bubble will bust, but companies will still have access to the data they havested over the years, and the models they created. Depending on how the governments regulate AI models, I can imagine AI companies saying everything in their models belongs to them, and they will use this to claim ownership over IPs from other companies,like Nintendo, Disney, Marvel etc.
so many older managers legitimately thinking we would hold meetings on the metaverse
The same ones who are already in the middle of laying off workers - because the actually believe the tech is able to do most of the work already... Thinking about how people so clueless and out-of-touch have been able to fail upwards this long is infuriating. Makes you realise how much of all of this is just complete BS.
Jesus wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.
@@kapsi 🤓☝️ “jesus wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer”
You think we'll just continue to have meeting as zoom calls or skype forever and not in a more immersive 3d environment when the technology will be available and affordable (e.g. not apple VR)
@@joannot6706 we will when it is a better alternative that can be done with the same or less effort. Right now - doesn’t provide anything more useful than zoom and requires more effort.
So professional and polished, Adam. I’m so used to listening to the podcast, and I had no idea your intros were on teleprompter and unedited. I’m always impressed by the way you are creating and sharing ideas and content. Thanks for all you do.
i have been so depressed looking around and seeing everyone being duped by this nonsense. you have no idea how much hope and relief this conversation brought me. from contra last week to this you have really helped uplift me during this stupid stupid stupid dark time that we';re all suffering through. thank you adam
Depressed? The people will keep getting duped. The people are too busy chasing dopamine highs to understand when something techy sounding is scamming them. It will only get worse. Grow up.
Same here as an artist this is really good news
You are the one who is duped. I'm a computer engineer and has seen the proof with my own eyes. It is a huge breakthrough.
It brought you relief, because you are scared. These people DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. AI is not nonsense and is not a bubble. Get used to it. Your relief is unwarranted.
@@davidbutler9323 found relief with yer mom last night.
I'd like to relate an in industry story, from game development, visual media.
Someone tried to work with some people who provided good, but still incorrect work. They received instructions on what to correct and what was the minimum required standard. They also had a number of traditional artists working on the same project.
The traditional artists were able to adapt their work, correct the elements present and complete the work.
The AI prompters, produced additional images and those were less suited for the project and only progressively got further away from the desired end state. Every single time was a new image, a new prompt. Every single refinement proved to be less suited to the project at hand.
I've explained it badly, left out the details I couldn't confirm, couldn't remember.
Generative AI is a verbose if badly trained parrot, just repeating what it knows. Giving answers that at best might, be close to what someone actually wants.
As they said, probabilistic.
It can have a role in generating ideas, frameworks, and prototyping. It's easier to generate a bunch of things that look sorta-kinda-maybe like what you want and have an actual artist use that as reference, rather than trying to explain what you're looking for in words or badly drawn napkin diagrams or spending a bunch of time trawling through google images and pinterest.
That's a fairly legitimate use-case and fulfills a need. That's... not worth trillions of dollars and gigatonnes of CO2, and should not be involved with anything anywhere near the final product.
Then those were badly uninformed and incompetent genAI users.. with Controlnet and IPAdapters it's ridiculously easy to modify an image even pose subjects just as you want.
@@hypotheticalaxolotl I still prefer napkin doodles honestly, I'd rather make exactly what my client wants then what they just settled for when looking through the generated options
@@FuzBrain I mean in either case I would hope they wouldn't just dump them on your desk and say "Go off, king." Either way they should be guiding you through what they're handing you, how the scribble/generated doodle has this failing, doesn't reflect that idea, has a decent pose but they aren't enthralled by it, etc. But fair enough.
@@Hosea405 Sure 🙄... Like this problem isn't EXACTLY what most people encounter when trying to have AI-prompt generators create anything more intricate than a thumbnail for TH-cam.
No-one has ever shown - what you're claiming is "ridiculously easy" for anyone who knows how to use the tech - is actually possible...
Not even the big tech companies pushing this overhyped garbage are able to show that it's "easy" to change small details here-and-there on an AI-generated image... in any reproducible and predictable way. It's always a version of "prompt and pray" again and again - until you hopefully manage to get anywhere close to what was asked by the client.
I always assumed that if they had something amazing, they would have shown us by now. First rule: show, don't tell
It's a solution in search of a problem. Most of the specialized solutions that already exist are better, so it's hard to fit genAI into an actually useful task. And when you can, there's often a less resource-intensive option that does that useful task better. It's good at summarization or rewriting, I guess. That can be occasionally useful, but not as a standalone product.
@@epb9000if not for the over-hyped expectations I think we could see that AI in its current limited state is already pretty neat, and even useful in the right context.
"Pretty neat" and "occasionally useful" are a far cry from the corporate hype we are being sold though.
@@epb9000 Yep, add it to the list of the "Metaverse", NFTs, and cryptocurrency aka "Things that we have to invent problems for so that we can sell as a solution or at the very least turn into a grifting bubble we can make billions on through speculation and hype and then rug pull and shift to something else"
@@jonathan0berg I kinda agree, but it's "pretty neat" quality alone also comes at the expense of all the data being stolen to power it. It's like a hover car that runs on insulin. Sure, it's "pretty neat" but very quickly becomes a needless waste even if it's not hyped up as the "standard of the future".
@@epb9000 Disagree - the language problem does exist and indeed a giant step has been made with the new gen LLMs. There also exists no other software that does it actually better to my knowledge (feel free to educate me if I am wrong). That the costs of the solution is in no way appropiate to the problem it is solving is obvious. That google / Microsoft / Meta market the LLM's as a solution to everything instead of stating what it actually does (as in it solves the language problem) is another problem, but in terms of technology the new gen LLMs are really a giant leap.
Hearing actual intelligence on media is such a breath of fresh air. Literally thought intelligent people were gone. Thank you.
don't worry. never forget autistic folks still exist aka the smartest ppl on earth ^^
nothing makes me happier than news of the imminent ai bubble bursting... as an artist, hate that sh*t so much. as a person i hate it even more.
Digital artists weren't considered "artists" for the longest time. They were accused of being cheap imitations that only produced mass produced garbage.
Llm' will end up just being a tool like Photoshop. You can't. Copyright the work so no company will use it
I know what you mean. I’m a writer. I can’t wait for A.I. to go downhill and burst into flames. 🙄
@@charlesreid9337 lmao thats perfect. Big power hoarding corpos love their copyright baby
@@charlesreid9337 No company uses photoshop?
Re: Facebook and growth -->
Too bad Zuck didn't realize that eliminating poverty would grow his user base.
🤯🤯🤯
But what's the point of being rich if you don't get to know that you definitely stepped on everybody on the way.
Dumping money on people results in them wasting most of it and prices increasing.
Plus Zuck isn't THAT rich. 😅
@@auraguard0212 -- I never said anything about welfare. I'm talking about investing. Zuck could have beaten Musk to the punch on Starlink decades ago.
The problem is that investing in literacy, water treatment, disease prevention electrification, and internet access would have taken a generation and next to nobody in tech seems to think in a 20-year time scale.
I know you meant 'eliminate poverty' in terms of making people's standard of living go up, but lets be real big tech is going to rather willfully misinterpret that 'eliminate the poor' in a much more sinister and literal way because of the absolute inhuman state corporations ran by heartless lizard people have devolved into
I spent a whole day today testing AI resume and job search tools. Basically I spent a whole day arguing with a computer, telling it how to do what I already know how to do better.
That seems more like you don't know how to use the tools efficiently.
Actually ai need training~~ but if you know what you are doing… ai would never met your expectations unless you teach it. Ai learn so much trash that it never really learn the best way unless taught well.
Try GPT-4o. It is one of the most accurate models to date and significantly better than 3.5 and 4.0. I use it everyday for programming. I also work with open-source AI LLM models. These tools are getting better at a rapid rate.
@@vncstudio😂 for programming?
You were training it... AI needs to be trained.
This video is so freshing I wish i could get big tech CEOs to listen to this when they use washroom at work.
They already have. They prefer to make quick billions and make a crap product. destroy their industries and gain the public scorn then develop a sustainable product that is effective and they can make more money then they ever dreamed of. The insane amounts of greed. especially in the USA is erasing innovation.
Being a 30yr in a large hardware tech company. There is no way VR meeting can be productive. It still often people are challenged by mute/headsets issues or NOT EVEN USING A HEADSET, just relying on the laptop microphone... Cmon. But their will be 20 minutes lost at the beginning of each meeting dealing with set up.
It will make people avoid long meetings because having something strapped to your head is uncomfortable. By having shorter meetings, people are freed up to do actual work.
Yeah that was a true Dilbert moment where executives are like, "that's an amazing goal" and all the real tech people are like, "you want to do what??" 😅
@@username7763 comfier headphones exists, people play games for hours and hours with them.
the problem is IT departments purchasing the shittiest call centre headphones possible lmao
My CEO, who is so boomer he refuses to use slack when the rest of the company does, keeps pushing for us to add AI into our processes SOMEHOW just to make investors happy. I'm so jaded now that I'm just sitting back with my tea and waiting for shit to burn.
@@melimsah slack does have ‘AI’ features doesnt it?
Haha, I was there 6 years ago but with blockchain. Thank God that startup failed and I was able to move onto different things.
Yeesh. Meanwhile my family is trying to essentially find "elder friendly Discord-like" for my grandmother and her friends' meal meetup planning. That'd be freaking AWESOME. Because they need forums, not email chains, but are also in their eighties and nineties and need it to be easy.
He is not wrong, though.
It is incredibly stupid but adding AI somehow in your product at the moment demonstratively improves your company's performance on the stock market.
Same way everybody and their mother wanted to have something involving "block chain technology " and TIOT.
From the perspective of an executive this is the correct move. Moronic, but it is the stupidity of our markets and consumers that eat up tech babble without a second thought.
The executives just do what makes number go up. To be fair that is their job.
@@nikinikolov6570 think of the shareholder's first
Utility comes later
And profit comes last (if ever)
My personal fear with AI is that people won't care about what's good, and studios will create shitty AI scripts for movies, then move to shitty AI animation when they can, and so many people will hop on it that it's all we get.
I'm not too worried about that. People don't necessarily care what's good, but there's no replacement for a human soul being behind a piece of art. AI-generated scripts aren't just low quality, they're completely lacking what people are looking for when they go to a movie. Even a bad movie made by humans is going to have more value to moviegoers than something generated by an algorithm. I just don't think there's going to be a demand for movies that are literally soulless.
Agree but also we're already there even without AI. Hollywood pumps out mostly garbage that manages to follow the ticket selling forumla
@@larissabrglum3856 There is a streamer on Twitch that goes be Vedal. He has a functioning AI (pretty sure it is a use of Chat GPT) - He is constantly tinkering with the code and it us capable of looking at images and playing computer games. It also gets mad. It's called Neuro-sama
Yet it is not aware though it has improved considerably via his parameter tweaking to appear sentient. It's taken him about 2 years to get it passable. His initial deployment had this thing denying the Haulocast and otherwise sounding racist. It was a mess. He got banned for 2 weeks and had to design a filtering system, plus had in load a list of banned words to prevent the AI from messing up that badly.
As I see it with entertainment, the products are pretty bad and eventually people will be open to see stuff but then that special something that makes art great, that quality of the communication itself will be lacking and people will just stop going. Loss of money will be huge and you'll so much of this stuff scrapped. AI will get a bad rep pretty soon
They're making shitty human scripts already, so what's the point.
What i feared from AI is that Real productif and talented humans will be accused of using AI, and just the other day an artist was accused of using AI to generate an image and the one who used AI won the first prize of an art contest.
Great perspectives! Subscribed. ❤️
Another thing about Sora and the woman in the Hong Kong street evolving into a full blown movie - how do you make a movie if you can't even have the same person across shots?
It's an engineering problem. The current AI capabilities are pretty much just there without much engineering having gone into product development. It's like saying databases won't help automate accounting processes, because they don't write the SQL queries automatically.
We have barely scratched the surface of the capabilities of current AI from an engineering and product development perspective.
@@danielmethner6847 that is absolutely NOT an engineering problem. Set and object persistence between shots in AI generated values will load so much artifacts and bullshit into a scene even if you gave them a decade. And quit with this "in the future" BS just because it seems like it MIGHT happe , nobody believes that anymore and if you still do I got a 2016 self driving car to sell you.
@@danielmethner6847Except as the video clearly explains, there's a hard limit to how much the AI will be ABLE to do, and especially doing it in a way thst is COST and TIME effective.
@Hjernespreng Well thankfully not everything one may find in a TH-cam video is accurate.
18 months ago, before Sora: "How can AI generate a video clip from a prompt when AI generated images have so many issues."
My point: look at the pace of progress in the recent past to give you a sense of the near future.
Why would I read a book that nobody bothered to write? Comes to mind when they talk about AI
No, you see, you're supposed to have the AI also read the book for you.
@@zachpuller "Google Gemini, did I enjoy that story?"
@@danielstockley5631 🤣
😂@@zachpuller
Funny how people repeat the same quotes under every video like this, while complaining about AI and bots.
I used either bing or google to lookup the properties of some material. The AI automatically spit back a summary of the pros and cons. Under pros, It had "high temperature resistance" then under cons it had "cannot withstand high temperatures." A 5 year old could figure out that makes no sense. These things are dumb as doorknobs.
I imagine that what might be happening is that it's pulling from two different sources, for example the company website might say withstands high temperature, but an online reviewer might be saying it cannot withstand high temps.
@@AmazingKevinWClarkthat is obviously the case, but if there was any resemblance of intelligence in there that goes beyond the capacity of a research engine, it would notice the fallacy.
but doorknobs are useful. they aren't adding an additional overcomplicated and pointless set of tasks to the process of opening a door.
Type on google &udm=14 you'll find an AI free version of Google.
This happened even before Google added AI. Their recommend response when I was searching the first written book of the old testament that was used to write the others, told me two different answers on my phone and my computer
I'm begging for AI to end so bad, it's hurting artists and stealing from them
The sentence “ChatGPT loses 700K a day” made me nut how can we make them lose more money faster
more prompting
Meta just gave them more open source competition. Are you happy now?
ask chat gpt how to make a bot to ask gpt infinite questions, then make and run that bot, simple
As others said. More prompting. It sucks that making them lose more money hurts the environment though.
@@NoidoDev😂😂😂 that sounds pretty good
The fact that this conversation basicqlly didnt include at all the blatant theft that is happening with "Training Data" is fucking wild.
The issue with these statistical cold reads are grand enough to cover all the issues would take a seminar.
It's crazy that the rabbit hole with how shit this tech is goes SO DEEP that you can talk about it for over an hour, and still have other ways you didn't even mention in which this tech is shit.
agree
Mostly because they've discussed that in earlier podcasts with other people, so to go over that - while an important fact - is beating a dead horse and not in the scope of the discussion about how the AI industry is basically turning into Saturn Devouring His Children.
That's not what the discussion was about. If AI held up to its hype (it's not even close), AND stole all its training data like it does now, then what you're talking about would indeed be a vastly more relevant topic. I predict that the AI bubble will burst, especially when more and more people see behind the curtain made of baloney. And then all that stolen training data will matter less than it does now, kind of like if I stolen millions of credit card numbers and just had them on a detached hard drive in my basement.
I work in Tech and everything you have said is Spot on. AI has existed for a long time before these Tech Bros in Silicon Valley decided to latch onto it. What I want to know is who is going to 'Bailout' these idiots when the stock market crashes? Because it will when everyone catches up to their grift.
It all makes sense when you assume they want it to crash.
A crashing stock market would be a sign of rationality. We cannot expect this to happen...
They have little debt and lots of cash so why would they need a bailout?
Facepalm. Who told you that the industry would fail with AI? You provided no real argument for that. Yet you were bold enough to insult people that know more than you.
Why do people keep associating "AI" with "tech bros" and "silicon valley"? Machine learning is so much bigger than that. (rwxrob)
It has to be the product of McKinsey consulting, right? Every single large company did this at the exact same time on the belief that the ai thing will blow up and make a ton of money, and McKinsey’s whole MO is about cutting frontline staffing levels.
That point about how people used social media as a town square to meet and discuss stuff, that are now gated garden squares lined with billboards.
Just like real life 🫠
5:10 oh wow, that explains the sudden push for Google to stifle adblockers. Much easier to show growth when the small percentage of those not looking at ads suddenly has to look at a dozen of them instead.
Or they just leave Google cuz Google sucks anyways. I can't find anything I'm searching for using Google anymore. At this point I miss Yahoo of the mid to late 90s where it had what you were searching and then it broke it down into a bunch of different options.
…and caused me and other people to switch back to Firefox after 10 or whatever years.
Well played, google.
Five years ago, I was pretty enthusiastic about developing computer tech. GPUs, CPUs I was excited to see the art people would create with them. Games, movies, interactive art.
Instead we have vast warehouses of abused GPUs for Crypto and AI scams.
I stopped buying tech. I go outside now, do other manual things and hobbies instead. No longer play games or watch movies.
video games of today are discount matrix in a way
and the things i can do in games are nigh impossbile in real life
driving shooting climbing fantasy power
elden lord
cowboy
superheores
vigilantes and so on
outside is mostly hot with air pollution
peple IRL sux ass in general
i haven't found outside very interesting yet
i hope i also get enlighten like you
but chances RN are pretty slim
YOURE A BOT THATS WHY 😂
I bought a ton of art supplies, 2 guitars and a hardware sampler. Nothing is more enjoyable right now than disconnecting from the internet, sinking into a creative mode and completely forgetting all this garbage exists
@@ravensharpless audio books, music, digital reading, news, general awareness
What's the alternate?
I don't live in 90s like in FRIENDS show
People talking to each other in cafe and bar
Right now almost everyone has tws, smartphone, switch and so on
Im not defending
But how do you escape from reality
Friends are also comfortable
Chating online or while playing games
What can an average JOE do?
How long can you escape from it
Is moderation even possible
Honestly idk
@@Ghost-pb4tsOutside is free lol
One thing chat gpt can be very useful for us augmenting certain fields, not necessarily replacing them. Take coding as an example. Because it regurgitates information that's already out there, instead of digging through stack overflow for something you want to do, you can ask chat gpt and it will give you code that does what you need. It's not perfect but that's why it's good for augmenting instead of replacing. Someone that knows how to code can take the output, interpret it, change it if needed, and improve it. But you're saving time - especially for basic functions.
They make everything worse so that they can interrupt you with ads.
As in : They'll break your pencil, so they can interrupt you with a pencil sharpener ad.
They'll break the tip of your pencil over and over so they can log more pencil sharpener uses. They make the pencil graphite INTENTIONALLY brittle and fragile so they can log more pencil sharpener uses
That's kinda profound.
One thing I'm confused about is why people expect a search engine like google to answer their questions. Surely the point is to use to the search engine to find a website that is written by a person who gives you the answer.
Most people don't know how to use a search engine. They type in a badly worded prompt and only click on the first result which is almost always a corporate website providing a positive spin on the topic at hand.
Because a lot of the time entering the question you have will make the top result be a site (or forum entry) that discusses the exact question. And Google noticed people were using their search like that and began extracting text from some results
my parents have now evolved to such a mid-ground that they trust the search engine so completely that, say if they're searching for an old movie's information, they'll just click the amazon result at the top and accidentally buy it now. then they'll blank out about the whole original purpose of taking out their phones lol :(
What websites? The amount of factual websites on the net is shrinking in part BECAUSE of Google and SEO horeshit. Why bother putting up a website when an AI and SEO is going to bump you off the ranking to the page 900.
Google already highlighted the most likely answer to your question at the top of the page, before all this "AI" horseshit. So tucking worthless.
I want this new disruptive nonsense to stop and be recognized as a fancy "auto-complete" that it is. I've been a programmer since 1991 and I've seen so many things like this fizzle out.
As a programmer you should be well aware that GPT is way more than a fancy auto-complete. It's neural network architecture... modeled after our own brains, and processes information like we do.. so much so in fact, that neuroscientists are looking at GPT and neural networks in general to get more insight into our own brain processes.
@@Hosea405 The architecture is very complex and interesting, and I'm sure there's things to be learned neuroscience wise from all of this. But FFT architecture is nowhere near like a brain besides the abstract concept of neurons and strengthening/weakening connections, it's like a child's toy compared to all of the different complex biochemical processes going on in your brain 24/7. And just in general, LLMs aren't made to "think like a human": they are trained with the goal of *creating text that looks like it was written by a human*. That distinction is very important, imo.
Microsoft now added “Summarize with Copilot” as an automatic mouseover pop-up when any text is selected in edge.
“Summarize” has been an effective feature in MacOS and iOS for literally two decades, and no one cared then or cares now.
@@Hosea405- Except it’s not. The current AI is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the complexity of a human brain. It’s not even close. A cognitive scientist studying ChatGPT to get a better understanding of neural networks is analogous to a gastroenterologist studying a Cabbage Patch doll to gain insights into the human digestive tract.
@@periapsis413 This "it's like your brain" thing has been a parroted thing from AI cultists err... enthusiasts for a while now. Trying to explain that there's way way way more happening in your brain than just some electricity going through some neurons just doesn't land, they refuse to believe it.
This in some weird way gave me optimism for the future. Everyone else is talking about how Ai was gonna change the world in the next 10 years in a bad way. This actually makes more sense.
It's called Xitter now. I worked in tech for 20 years. I'm done. I hate it. Thinking about bagging groceries for my retirement years because all of the start-ups I worked for didn't pan out. I'm 63 and now...
Haven't self service checkouts killed those jobs
Also, Microsoft's CoPilot makes web searches more cumbersome. It provides presupposed responses based on somebody's searches but not mine.
30 and all my friends went into tech. I work retail because I majored in the arts (lol). Retail isn't so bad, I promise.
@@boyunderbridge not completely yet but they are trying their best!
@@boyunderbridge Some stores are actually getting rid of them in part because it turns out when prices are high, and there are no humans around, people are fine just walking out the door with their merchandise.
I was most concerned with it destroying creator livelihoods.
I’m now most concerned about it cancelling health care plans or refusing payouts
I know people who talk about how awesome AI is and I ask 'what exactly do you think will change in the next few years because of AI?' And they say 'everything'. And i'm like 'what exactly?' And they don't know.
@@twilightbin their stock portfolio
AI has changed the way spammers go about their business by huge amounts. I imagine most people wanting to support AI will neglect to mention that one clear and obvious beneficial use of AI, where it's made a tremendous impact.
Legit I have seen ONE company come up with a way to use AI in a useful manner--Amazon. They use it to scan reviews and make a short summary of "reviews overall" and you can ask the AI questions to see if any of the reviews answer them. It's VERY open about the fact that yeah, it's not useful on products without a lot of reviews, so it needs human input, but it's useful for using Amazon. It legit improves the Amazon experience. I have yet to see ANYONE else manage that.
Medicine. Law. Music. Your mobile. Video games. Animation. Coding.
@PatrickDodds1 hmmm
I know about one sector of law that's going to have a real big change
That is copyright law
The other stuff...
Meh
This was a great segment. Much more technical backed than some of the previous videos Adam posted.
I love to see people really talking soberly about AI. Shit is insanely over hyped right now and people are just parroting "just wait till next year!"
"Next year" is when Teslas become robotaxis, remember? Or was that this year? No, this year was when Elon said he'd be landing a manned mission to Mars... Weird that I don't really see any of this materialising any time soon... Lmao.
I'd be glad to talk soberly with you without referencing future possibilities 😊
The thing is next year will be better and you will be left with egg on your face...because hardware is accelerating at an exponential rate. It will peak 2028ish...but until then all people like you do is sell ai to the dumb even more as something special by proving the parrots right...as the hardware will improve.
@@onjulraz754 I think the improvements in gen AI are at a plateau where more training data will not lead to significant improvements in the models
@@InternalStryke you are right, however the future is filled with uncertainty.
we cannot be so sure about that, there will be a progress, even if the AI Hype bubble burst. and i think there is a solution for that such as a breakthrough in the LLMs architecture, like we see on chatgpt, it uses transformer.
even if the gen AI is plateau in the future, the improvement we see will likely be logarithmic. we might see reduced error rates that can make these LLMs more reliable for real world use
It's still hilarious to me that people refuse to call facebook "meta" and twitter as "x". I think some of it is just habit but i also think it is interesting that twitter and facebook are the names of there first and most successful products and the rebrand attempts have brought us nothing new. Its like our brains refuse to adapt until these company's prove they are worthy of these rebrands. We have built in bs meters.
I don't think that's true for Facebook as much as it is for X, Facebook is still called Facebook, what's is called Meta is the company responsible for the product, so most of the time people are using the names appropriately, they are Facebook for the social media and Meta for the company which is trying very hard to not let it die.
That's a great way to describe it. We are developing a natural immunity to corporate BS.
@@bluester7177yeah. the only reason I let the word 'meta' into my brain regarding that company is them also owning instagram.
I still think it's a shit name for them---to quote a character from M.O.D.O.K.: "They think they're deep, but they're just trite."
I REFUSE to refer to Facebook as anything other than Facebook. Everyone was using "meta" as its intended meaning Zuck saw that and decided to steal a word from normal people conversation and name his dogshite company after it. Idgaf I will never refer to his business as meta, its definitely not meta. And I already don't use twitter so idgaf what its called. Actually to be fair to Muskrat, "X" was an old company name he had before his Paypal days so at least he already had the idea rolling around in his head
@@stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 X as a lone name is so fucking stupid. He's trying SO HARD to be cool circa 1990
I've been trying to tell people that A.I. is a bubble and everyone has given me "that look". But I'm glad there are people out there yelling about it much louder than I ever could.
How is deep learning a bubble?
@@pararth4476 The current hype is a bubble. Deep learning as a technology is great but it won't deliver what AI companies are promising (at least not within the time frame they suggest). We might be heading for a new AI winter soon.
@@alexanderst.6529ai winter not going to happen anytime soon. Momentum is too high, and even if all the science will suddenly stop now, it is done enough to keep specializing, improve on real data from real tasks ai will be tried at after trained on common data and developed e.g. emergent skills, scale using more computation for at least for decade.
Gartner has been saying it's at the peak of the hype cycle for at least 6 months
@@pararth4476sorry that you're holding an Nvidia bag you bought at the top but I ain't buying it when the bubble pops
What an absolute joy to watch. Impressive, thoughtful and extremely interesting... I saw how long it was and still ate the whole thing 😂
Instantly subscribed!
As someone who ground away learning to code to get out of the literal farms and fields in 2022, then worked successfully in semiconductors for a year before the layoffs hit...this is EXACTLY the kinda shit I'm worried about. Not skynet, not HAL 9000, but 2008 pt 2.
Do you still work in tech?
@@ekwensu8797 applying everywhere, but mostly washing dishes now
AI has at least made non trained voice typing way better. As a dyslexic person this has been a huge improvement in my life, but the effect AI has had on the internet are not worth it.
Yep. Small AI tools to do a very specific thing are the only thing that seems to have any potential. Like Amazon's AI that summarizes all of a product's reviews or even searches the reviews for certain info for you. Simple, not revolutionary, but improves the experience to make you more likely to Buy The Thing, which is how Amazon makes its money.
The lesson they started with in my first User Oriented Design class is that you have to first figure out what users want and also what they need. Sometimes people know exactly what they want. Sometimes need and sometimes they think they know what they want but the root of that desire is a problem that they either haven’t quite identified correctly or there is a solution that is different to the one they asked for that actually is better or simpler for everyone.
Good design engineering figures out the problem and develops a solution for a specific problem or set of use cases.
LLMs and other AI algorithms can be used as a tool for very specific use cases especially if the interface is good but they are not General Artificial Intelligence.
Like he said there are use cases out there. They just aren’t the broad “everyone will use it” industry destroying takeover that is being sold to people.
@@Kereeaeven big general ai tools like chat gpt and claude 3.5 are astonishingly intelligent when used over their api to execute software functions on the fly.
Yeah. There are good things software can do. But it's not going to be a 1 trillion a year product.
I am in an industry where we still pay people to do dictation, and I need certified transcripts
But court reporters are using AI to do a rough transcript and then they listen to it and fix. That is a big time saver to skip a step. But it's snot a 1 trillion industry
@@doomedwit1010 wrong
Ed's 'Better Offline' podcast is definitely worth a listen y'all
Thanks for listening!
Since Google Podcast's demise, I having a hard time finding podcasts on TH-cam Music!
If it's on that platform, could you just give me the link?
I am a Boomer with little interest in technology or the internet. But out of amateurish curiosity I began playing with Open AI, and Chat GPT. I was initially interested in the writing aspect. Short stories, song lyrics, etc. Just getting it to understand the premise and scenario was frustrating and took many regenerations to get a response even remotely close to what I had in my mind. It seems to be unable to adjust to plot changes and has no sense of nuance or innuendo. Same thing with the Chat GPT. Based on my limited experience with AI, it is surprisingly easy to "break the BOT" and get nowhere.
you're so right!!! umm what do you mean by 'breaking the bot'? ^^
ChatGPT said a game I invented was created in the 19th century, making me immortal.
Behold: the God-Emperor of Mankind!
@darksidegryphon5393 who knew the secret to that title and power was the creating of games no one cares about? 🥷
@@thegamesninja3119 What game is it, out of curiosity?
@@carultch Oneonta Whist. ChatGPT confuses it with regular Whist, which was of note in the 19th century.
You used it wrong, and it acted wrong as a consequence. ChatGPT isn't an information repository; it's a language processing system.
No one asked for “A.I.” Like this. My next phone will be a dumb phone.
Ironically, buying a Pixel phone makes it super easy to ditch Google because Pixels are one of the few models left with unlockable bootloaders. My phone has a completely google free profile for day to day use then a sandboxed profile with google services running in their own sandboxes if the app I need requires them.
I use GrapheneOS but there are a few options.
I almost got a dumb phone last week. Unfortunately, there are still a few apps I need for work and for everyday convenience. Contactless payments and bank app being the main ones. Maps is also extremely useful since I'm terrible at knowing where I am going. Might be worth getting two phones, and just having the smart phone off most of the time.
@@Imevul work phone and personal phone (and learning how to read a map to plan a route)
@@Imevul Hilarious, so smartphones are good?
@Imevul i was expecting something actually related to work, like a sign-in or communication app or something, not three easily replacable apps 😭
The most prolific uses of "AI" are:
A) Helping students cheat on their homework;
B) Helping lawyers cheat on writing contracts and legal briefs.
And that is why it's a failing technology. If it was really prolific, the number one use would be porn.
I mean using a tool to quickly ascertain info you double check to speed up how long it takes to learn isnt a bad thing. That is like getting angry you dont need to buy physical journals to read studies anymore because they are all online.
So...helping people cheat?
@@DubberssMcgeeexcept AI is often wrong with information. That’s because it has 0 sentience and doesn’t plan its sentences ahead
I want a lawyer that writes contracts with quill pens on parchment only, everything else is cheating. In fact if the lawyer doesn't have all the law codes/case law memorized and needs to "look it up" that's also cheating.
It took computer science majors many years of work and billions of dollars to make a computer program that writes worse than a hungover arts major slapping together a last minute project.
I personally would love to see small startups popping up again that focus on making good products, are as self funded as possible, and refuse to ever go public. A friend of mine and I have spoken numerous times over the years about this topic and have both agreed we'd rather pay the employees the same, if not more than we take, give huge yearly bonuses, as many benefits as possible... you know, actually give a shit about the people making the company money. We'd be happy making just enough money each year to keep the company going. Having fun building stuff we love and able to do that until we decided to retire. Sounds like this may be a much larger shared mentality than I thought.
I like the idea if only I could make something that the market needs and still yet unfulfilled.
So many things I use daily have major issues that, if a better competitor was to exist, a lot of users would freely abandon the current product.
It's just about trying to find a way to stay profitable while staying private, and fighting the greedy need to constantly grow at unhealthy rates.
Thing is we live in an economy of monopolies that will do a hostile takeover of any startup that tries to compete with them. It's virtually impossible to start a new tech company in the current economic climate. This is really just part of late stage capitalism.
I double this
Finally someone that says what I’ve been thinking about AI. It’s great for really targeted things but as general intelligence it sucks
Disagree :( have you tried using Autogen and Claude 3.5?
here in italy, two months ago, the regional center for learning in school sent to all the teachers a pamphlet to learn how to use chatgpt to create homework for the kids - said homework will be probably done with chatgot.
that is the absurdity of AI atm
Only lazy people adore AI
This is the sad truth
Was blown away by this episode and feeling a lot more optimistic about the next 50 years. Thank you @AdamConover and you have come such a long way since CH. Have subscribed to both you and Ed after hearing this episode!
This video was already made to age like spilled yoghurt in a lunchbox with the advancements AI showed just last week.