I started working out 2 months ago and I'm quite far from being lean so I have a question. if it's said that one should consume anywhere from 0.8 to 2 grams of protein per kg of body mass that should be for someone who's more or less lean right? cause if say 40% of my body mass is fat why would I consume such amounts of protein, I don't need to feed my fat stores as I think. would be interesting to see what you think about it and I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one to take benefits of a video based on my question if that peaks your interest to dive into and explore
Vivolife's protein powder has 25g of protein and 6 grams of bcaa.(2.71 leucine) I'd say it's one of the top protein powders vegan or not. Your thoughts?
food supply actually, no it’s not. A cow can be local and feed a family for months. A single banana has to be flown 1000s of miles to make it to someone’s table.
You don't necessarily need vegan protein powder to reach protein goals. Add lentils, peas, chickpeas, nuts and seeds to your diet. If you eat enough calories on vegan diet, you will reach your daily protein goals.
I'm vegan for 1 year now. I've consumed so much meat and dairy products in my past only because I thought, I need it for my workouts and health. I was wrong, so I'm powered by plants now 💪🌾 I'm using mainly Soy Protein, because it's the cheapest (cheaper than dairy). Unfortunately most vegan protein blends are too expensive. Cows and animals eat 90% of the soy that is produced, so plant based protein should be much cheaper.
Should it really be cheaper? I don't know, I have no idea of how soy protein is prepared, how you get rid of the huge amounts of fats and carbs it contains (and can it be used for something else). Separating phases and compounds sounds a priori like a much simpler operation for milk, which is a liquid emulsion. Moreover, filtration is based on the fact that lactose are small molecules which can get eliminated through a membrane while protein are retained, but the starch of soybeans is on the other hand very long macromolecules (plus carbs of many various sizes) so the exact same filtration process cannot be used. Turning soybeans into "soy milk" or tofu is already a somewhat complicated operation which multiplies the cost by a large factor (tofu is typically a tiny bit more expensive than budget chicken, even when you live in Asia and don't need to go to a hipster shop). And at that point you've not even started separating "cream" from "whey".
@@julienf2301 Julien F Well, I don't know exactly, but I think, it would be still cheaper. Here in Germany we pay ~12€ for 1kg Soy Protein. The dairy protein powder (same brands) costs ~15€. The blends (rice-, pea-, hempprotein etc.) on the other hand are often more expensive and around 20€+
@@ELBARTOmovies The cost of the blends is certainly more than "what it should be", on that I could agree: it's like when you buy whey blends of concentrate+isolate+additives, you pay the marketing of each company trying to make its blend more attractive than the competitor, and the choice of expensive ingredients which make a technically suboptimal recipe but have greater marketing impact. I used to buy mostly unflavoured pure isolate whey protein and it was cheaper than most crappy blends.
I'm not vegan but I stopped dairy...so bye bye whey I currently use pea protein which is cheap and has really good amount of protein Maybe you should try ;)
Thank you for such a thorough report. I consume Hemp Protein for its Amino Acid profile. Also , Buckwheat mixed with other grains has a complete protein profile.
I got 14.1 g of leucine today, eating plant based. I got 2500 kcal and 175g of protein total; 100g from the food I ate and 75g from pea protein isolate (used chronometer). AFAIK, 3g of leucine per day is the recommended minimum for muscle hypertrophy, which means that vegans really shouldn't worry about leucine content, as we get plenty already.
I was recently making my own blend of rice and pea, but have found a great company in Canada that makes it cheaper and it’s great quality. I’m not vegan, but whey doesn’t sit well in my stomach.
A protein powder that is heavy overlooked (maybe due to it's protein percentage) is hemp protein! It has only about 50% Protein content but m,any secondary plant substances that do good fopr your body. I use a blend of hemp, rica and pea protein. Got great results with it
I am not vegan, but that video is interesting and has significant information. That mentality contains visdom and respect, got no idea why anyone -do not insterested in content, come here and write hateful and disrespectful comments. Let’s be open minded guys, is that too much to ask? Love you, take care.
TH-cam makes me crazy. Dr Berg says we absorb only 10% of whey protein so its really not the best source. Here we hear opposite, whey protein is actually the best.
I have been mixing pea and brown rice protein 50/50 for a few years and the results have been just as good as when I was using whey. I also have zero bloat. Here are some simple recipes so it doesn't taste like shit: Shake one: vegan protein, 1 tbsp cocoa powder, 1 tbsp honey Shake two vegan protein, 100g frozen berries Shake Three: vegan protein, 1 very ripe frozen banana so it is nice and sweet, 1 tsp cinnamon They are my staples, It makes the vegan protein so nice to drink.
pea/rice blends les goo!! Whey always killed my stomach when I took lifting more serious in my early 20s, Iv never been good with dairy ontop of a lot of the whey protein powders have stevia which my stomach also doesnt like. Its nice not having to deal with the random abdominal cramps and occasional pain I got from the Whey protein products I had to deal with when I was younger.
Can you do a video about Spirulina? I have been taking this powder because of its high protein content and it is one of the few vegan products that are considered a complete protiens
@@Arbmosal It's not about containing every amino acid, but rather about having them in the correct ratios. I don't know how much it actually matters, if at all, but that's the idea.
At doses in which they provide a meaningful amount of proteins for an athlete, spirulina has many dangerous properties. The advised limit is somewhere around 5 g per day (even if you take a high-quality spirulina with low heavy metal contamination). Its micronutrients are certainly interesting for vegetarians, at small doses, but the protein argument is -I believe- totally overstated.
It is true that some proteins increase muscle protein synthesis better than others, but research also shows us that what’s really important is the amount of protein you eat in a day. In conclusion if you are eating enough protein in a day you are gonna hit every single amino acids you need to build muscle optimally by default wether you are consuming it from animal sources or plant sources.
Totally agree with soy being the best. Not only does it have the complete amino acid profile etc. but it raises IGF1 hormone even more than protein from animal sources like whey etc. and IGF1 is the hormone that makes your muscles and bones grow. For example we know that HGH is responsible for growth .. well not really because the body can’t use HGH for growth. HGH is needed for the making of IGF1 in the liver and that hormone is used for bone and muscle growth. And every plant is low in methionine which is good because methionine is linked to cancer and aging. Low methionine diets are critical for those who have cancer and who don’t want to develop one.
thanks for focusing on vegan protein. i understand that research may be lacking, but there is more to vegan protein than just rice, soy and pea. i use a blend of pea, faba bean, soy, hemp and sunflower protein made by theproteinworks (europe) and it is the best ive tried so far. i admit i dont know the ratio tho, they dont say on the packaging..
Please talk about insect protein powders like cricket! It's in a weird middle ground between vegan and animal based proteins and nobody's talking about it. I would love to know how it stacks up between other proteins.
Insect proteins are typically heavily fortified with other sources of aminos. If that's necessary, I'd rather stick with something that already has it than tinker around with a lower AA product.
Thanks for the video! I don't care about veganism, but I'm lactose intolerant and also whey protein causes acne in my case, so I was looking for a non animal source
@@Kayy_SS I recently bought pea protein isolate from myprotein but it was so damn salty I couldn't just mix it with water, it was downright terrible. Will need to buy some almond milk or something to mix it with. It shouldn't cause breakouts though. I'd personally steer away from soy so there are few options left...
@@lambdacode1503 Guess what? I just placed 2 orders of 5.5lbs of pea protein isolate from myprotein.com right after I wrote you that question smh. Was yours flavored or unflavored? Please tell me yours was flavored because I bought Unflavored ones lol
@@Kayy_SS lol, mine is unflavoured but some people do like it. As of now I only tried it with plain water, maybe with something else it's not as bad. Good luck and let me know how it is for you.
@@lambdacode1503 I like the chocolate flavour, not the biggest fan of their strawberry. Was about to order and try their coffee and walnut pea protein but it appears they no longer sell that flavour. I prefer to create my own mix of pea & rice protein but might try out their own blend just for the more flavour options.
im surprised that quinua wasnt in the list as it is source of “complete protein” the issue with soy is that its highly allergenic with pea protein also being somewhat allergenic. However quinua and (brown) rise are very hypo allergenic and are therefore used as a blend. one very good example of that is Botanica plant based anti flamatory protein blend which is composed of quinua, brown rise turnmeric and a few other ingredients known to decrease inflamation. another verybgood example is Metagenics UltraClear and Ultra ImflamX 360 a bit expensive but highly highly effective
There are several studies suggesting pea protein performs just as well if not better than whey, also the pea protein groups did not have to take double the amount of grams as suggested in this video.
@@PictureFit Yes if focusing on leucine then you would need more pea to match whey. In the studies participants were given the same amount of grams of protein which would mean the pea group received less leucine however they get much more arginine. Which suggest perhaps leucine is less important when arginine levels are high.
For all those complaining about ordering soy or rice or pea in plain form without flavorings added, and for newbies: It’s cheaper to buy bulk non-flavored versions of these protein isolate and non-flavored make it more versatile and way less expensive. So make your own flavors. This can easily be done by adding flavor extracts. You can find natural McCormick flavor extracts in most stores in the spice isle. They usually have banana flavor extract, strawberry, orange, coconut, vanilla. Mix and match them or use just one. You can also add them in with fruit. For example add orange extract with oranges or banana extract with bananas. Or add cacao powder in for chocolate flavor and a sweetener, or coconut with it to. Or bananas and coconut with the cacao. I like to add 1) at least one flavor extra. (depending on which kind of shake I want), 2) some kind of fruit to sweeten it and match with the extracts and add healthy carbs, and 3) some kind of 0 calorie sweetener such as Truvia. Truvia and the Splenda brand of monk fruit and stevia are the two best ones IMO to add to shakes. Usually have to add extra sweetener if using more bitter powders such as cacao and pea/rice, especially if you don’t want all the calories. Example shakes: 35 grams cacao 1 serving of pea and also 1 of rice 1-2 cups soy milk for base Pinch of salt 8-9 TBLSPOONS Truvia Vanilla extract 300-500 grams bananas - depending on how many carbs you want in the shake. My breakfast pre-workout shake is usually 80-100 g carbs and 50+ G protein and only a little fat. If you need less calories lower fat and carbs slightly or eat fewer calories later in the day to compensate. If you need less calories, use less banana and increase the extract of banana and natural 0 cal sweetener to compensate as another option. Banana extract and/or coconut extract depending on whether you want coconut banana or just banana + chocolate flavor.
ALSO: if the Truvia or Splenda sweeteners are granulated, you can mix it up into a powder in a blender or vitamin or nut nitrobullet or ninja bullet blender before adding to the shake so it dissolves easily.
I'm vegan and i use bulkpowders vegan protein a blend of Pea Protein Isolate, Brown Rice Protein, Pumpkin Protein, Flaxseed Powder and Quinoa Flour. Its perfect and tastes niceeee
klaas jan which flavour do you use? I only tried chocolate peanut, which i didnt like very much. Now i am debating between white choc coconut and banana caramel, those two being the most popular.
I absolutely love Probase Nutrition Vegan Proteins and their Superfoods are the best. They don't use any flavors, any colorants or fillers. And best of all, most their products are organic.
Go to bulk supplements and get Pea Protein. Cheap as dirt, dairy free obviously (most importantly for me) and it really doesn’t taste that bad, especially when you get used to it. I bought 5kgs worth (165 servings) for ~$90-100). Deflee worth it
From where do you get the specific ratio of 70/30 pea/rice blend to be the optimal ratio? I've got a guy on reddit claiming 60/40 rice/pea (not pea/rice) is the optimal ratio (best matches the ratio of whey). He also seem to have calculations to back it up.
Leanfit Complete Green Protein powder at Costco. 21 grams of protein per serving with 5 Vegetarian sources including pea and rice. My bother has been using it for years because of lactose intolerance and he has nothing but praise for it.
Respect to people transitioning to vegan diets. It ain't easy. Make sure you eating whole foods instead of processed stuff just cuz its vegan. Do research before going full vegan. And make sure you get enough calories
bought pure pea protein isolate & purebrown rice protein isolate separately and mixed them which is less costly compared to buying vegan protein containing both(pea+rice) premixed.
hey legend, just watched game changers just wondering for your personal opinion on it as I really respect your opinion as most of my gym information comes from you. Thanks
Awesome! Thanks for this video, I've been looking for something like this. Soy protein isolate has been my favourite protein powder by far, it has the best taste and consistency
The best vegan protein is the one you can drink without wanting to puke. Seriously, rice/pea alone is AWFUL and I tried lots of them. Most drinkable vegan protein I found (here in central Europe) is by a country called "Nutri Plus" (3K or 6K) - it is VERY sweet though. But at least it doesn't feel like you are drinking sand.
I go for pea. I'm not comfortable with soy and rice protein tastes bad. Also for I'm already consuming enough rice&oat so why not add something you don't usually eat :)
I want to ask two questions 1) for example, if a vegetable protein powder has the same grams of protein as a whey protein, are they equivalent in volume? and 2) a question, do vegetable proteins for volume also need amino acids?
I tried pea proteins once, because I found some very cheap one. The main thing I would have to say is that it gets very thick when mixed with water and it's not convenient: you almost have to take your time to chew it like a proper solid meal and it's heavy on the stomach. And then, after that, you still have the problem that it's hard to digest: I don't know about bio-availability (I'm actually a bit sceptical with the bioavailability arguments) but what I do know is that I could *feel* it on my stomach for a long time. For an omnivore, convenience is by far the number one good reason to use protein powder instead of solid food (maybe not for vegan, because cutting on a vegan diet without powders would require an insane amount of cardio).
Just so you know. Soy is thick as hell (needs 3x more liquid than whey to become drinkable) and also it's foamy as hell, Otherwise taste is alright, neutral I'd say. Pea is liquidy, but taste is horrible. There is that overwhelming pea bitter aftertaste and it is really concentrated (Bought pea and rice blend and had to combine with soy to be able to drink that). Whey is king in taste and texture and everything, the only reason I tried vegan protein is because of slight acne breakouts from dairy. But I will probably go back to whey, resp. classic protein blends, as acne breakouts seems to be mainly from lactose and so proteins, hard cheeses and butter don't cause much of an issue.
What about broccoli protein? I had a mix of pea & broccoli but the smell was an odor like farts, the smell itself made it hard to drink, had to throw it away...
As a vegan, besides eating diversily and hitting protein goals, I haven't been checking for leucine ingestion. Should I worry? What are the best vegan sources of leucine?
Umh, does whey protein taste any better? It's all about the blend. I use a cheap soy protein with no added flavour, blended in a blender with soy milk (or even water), a little bit of cinnamon and maca, and it's fine. Can add cocoa powder and a bit of sugar or syrup too. It's not real food anyway and not gonna taste like one.
You need to review RAW Nutritional Vegan Pro protein powder! Awesome products!!!
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I have been consuming vegan protein for some time now and I have some opinions on them. Specifically, I have been consuming two shakes daily: one for breakfast with 50g of pea and 25g of hemp and one before going to bed with 25g of each. This is all in comparison to whey, which is what I used to take. - They taste very bad. So bad that if you just mix them with some liquid they will make you want to vomit. You're basically forced to mix them with something. So far I have only obtained acceptable results by mixing them with chocolate powder (+calories). If flavor is a concern, don't even consider these. - They make me make diarrhea very often. This is very uncomfortable. - They don't seem to be making me develop muscle any faster. Not any slower either, however. - They're very difficult to mix. I must always use a blender. This is an extra effort that, done daily, adds up. - They contain more calories than whey and are very slow to digest, making you feel full for longer. - They're cheaper, no wonder why. Unfortunately, I bought so much that I'll have to continue using them for many more weeks. Can't wait for the day they're over to return to whey. It's just better in so many ways that it's not worth ditching. In conclusion: don't consume them. They're so much more trouble than they're worth.
I don't understand the problem with my body . I can eat almost all the dairy products but when it comes to protein I can't digest it . Neither raw nor isolate . I guess I'll switch to vegan sources
Acne is mostly genetic . Washing your face , wearing sunscreen specifically for your face , moisturizing , exercise , and avoiding foods like diary do help ! But take in mind some eat dairy and don’t get acne but for some it makes it worse . Try cutting our dairy for a month or longer and see if it improved!!! If it doesn’t then it most likely doesn’t affect you but if your face clears up and isn’t as red then stick to avoiding dairy
I have bought gold nutrition v protein based on pea and rice protein. One scoop has 20 grams of protein. Isn't it enogh for one shake and protein? I ask because you said 50 g of this compared to whey, that means i would have to use two scoops.
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PictureFit hey. Pretty cool video. I myself am plant based and I use the protein by CleanMachine. It uses the plant Lentein
I started working out 2 months ago and I'm quite far from being lean so I have a question. if it's said that one should consume anywhere from 0.8 to 2 grams of protein per kg of body mass that should be for someone who's more or less lean right? cause if say 40% of my body mass is fat why would I consume such amounts of protein, I don't need to feed my fat stores as I think. would be interesting to see what you think about it and I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one to take benefits of a video based on my question if that peaks your interest to dive into and explore
Vivolife's protein powder has 25g of protein and 6 grams of bcaa.(2.71 leucine)
I'd say it's one of the top protein powders vegan or not.
Your thoughts?
You should look at hemp protein.
Strategically released after "Game Changers"
Lol, I'm glad that doc is turning heads.
Lorenzo Robles It opened up my mind, but I still think it was overexedurated and as Men’s Health stated: “[...] light on scientific context.”
this video is so helpful to me because I was looking for vegan protein as I needed to cut down on my dairy intake thanks
Bullet Train hi, I suggest trying beef protein powder. No dairy and much higher quality.
@@newfiesig and even worse for thr environment
food supply actually, no it’s not. A cow can be local and feed a family for months. A single banana has to be flown 1000s of miles to make it to someone’s table.
Bullet Train fair enough. Plant protein is not as effective as animal protein, but the main thing is consistency in the gym. Take care.
You don't necessarily need vegan protein powder to reach protein goals. Add lentils, peas, chickpeas, nuts and seeds to your diet. If you eat enough calories on vegan diet, you will reach your daily protein goals.
I'm vegan for 1 year now. I've consumed so much meat and dairy products in my past only because I thought, I need it for my workouts and health. I was wrong, so I'm powered by plants now 💪🌾
I'm using mainly Soy Protein, because it's the cheapest (cheaper than dairy). Unfortunately most vegan protein blends are too expensive. Cows and animals eat 90% of the soy that is produced, so plant based protein should be much cheaper.
Should it really be cheaper? I don't know, I have no idea of how soy protein is prepared, how you get rid of the huge amounts of fats and carbs it contains (and can it be used for something else). Separating phases and compounds sounds a priori like a much simpler operation for milk, which is a liquid emulsion. Moreover, filtration is based on the fact that lactose are small molecules which can get eliminated through a membrane while protein are retained, but the starch of soybeans is on the other hand very long macromolecules (plus carbs of many various sizes) so the exact same filtration process cannot be used.
Turning soybeans into "soy milk" or tofu is already a somewhat complicated operation which multiplies the cost by a large factor (tofu is typically a tiny bit more expensive than budget chicken, even when you live in Asia and don't need to go to a hipster shop). And at that point you've not even started separating "cream" from "whey".
I was gonna write something but my man over there said it all.
@@julienf2301 Julien F Well, I don't know exactly, but I think, it would be still cheaper.
Here in Germany we pay ~12€ for 1kg Soy Protein. The dairy protein powder (same brands) costs ~15€.
The blends (rice-, pea-, hempprotein etc.) on the other hand are often more expensive and around 20€+
@@ELBARTOmovies The cost of the blends is certainly more than "what it should be", on that I could agree: it's like when you buy whey blends of concentrate+isolate+additives, you pay the marketing of each company trying to make its blend more attractive than the competitor, and the choice of expensive ingredients which make a technically suboptimal recipe but have greater marketing impact. I used to buy mostly unflavoured pure isolate whey protein and it was cheaper than most crappy blends.
I'm not vegan but I stopped dairy...so bye bye whey
I currently use pea protein which is cheap and has really good amount of protein
Maybe you should try ;)
Thank you for such a thorough report. I consume Hemp Protein for its Amino Acid profile. Also , Buckwheat mixed with other grains has a complete protein profile.
3:30 best option = blend pea 70% + rice 30%
Would u say it's better then wheat protein??? I've been taking wheat protein
What about Hemp protein?
Best is: hemp-rice-pea protein blend.
I had to switch to pea/rice protein, discovered whey was causing inflamation in my body. I've heard quite a few people saying the same thing.
I got 14.1 g of leucine today, eating plant based. I got 2500 kcal and 175g of protein total; 100g from the food I ate and 75g from pea protein isolate (used chronometer). AFAIK, 3g of leucine per day is the recommended minimum for muscle hypertrophy, which means that vegans really shouldn't worry about leucine content, as we get plenty already.
Exactly. I just make sure I enough enough . I try to get around 75-85g a day, at least, and seem to do just fine with that.
I was recently making my own blend of rice and pea, but have found a great company in Canada that makes it cheaper and it’s great quality. I’m not vegan, but whey doesn’t sit well in my stomach.
Over half the world population is lactose intolerant. Cow's milk is for baby cows.
What's the name of the company?
All the more reasons humans should not be consuming another species milk.
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A protein powder that is heavy overlooked (maybe due to it's protein percentage) is hemp protein! It has only about 50% Protein content but m,any secondary plant substances that do good fopr your body. I use a blend of hemp, rica and pea protein. Got great results with it
I was thinking hemp too. While smoking marijuana 🤔😤🇨🇦
Anyone here after watching the game changer?
What is game changer
I am not vegan, but that video is interesting and has significant information. That mentality contains visdom and respect, got no idea why anyone -do not insterested in content, come here and write hateful and disrespectful comments. Let’s be open minded guys, is that too much to ask? Love you, take care.
TH-cam makes me crazy. Dr Berg says we absorb only 10% of whey protein so its really not the best source. Here we hear opposite, whey protein is actually the best.
i guess if you take in consideration that to make whey protein you need to slave cows, maybe this fact helps to get a one conclusion
I wouldn’t take much of at all anything Beth says seriously. He is known to tell lies and when it’s not a lie, to grossly distort the facts.
@@alecargnin they wouldn't be alive anyway
I have been mixing pea and brown rice protein 50/50 for a few years and the results have been just as good as when I was using whey. I also have zero bloat. Here are some simple recipes so it doesn't taste like shit:
Shake one:
vegan protein, 1 tbsp cocoa powder, 1 tbsp honey
Shake two
vegan protein, 100g frozen berries
Shake Three:
vegan protein, 1 very ripe frozen banana so it is nice and sweet, 1 tsp cinnamon
They are my staples, It makes the vegan protein so nice to drink.
Try hemp
I have been using Probase Nutrition Pea Protein Powder and it is most likely the best vegan protein I have tried so far.
Great video! I’m surprised you didn’t compare the average protein per calories content as well, could have been interesting to add :)
Huel works well for me. Had it for 4 months. Lost fat and gained muscle, even when I thought I was past that ability point in my fitness
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pea/rice blends les goo!! Whey always killed my stomach when I took lifting more serious in my early 20s, Iv never been good with dairy ontop of a lot of the whey protein powders have stevia which my stomach also doesnt like. Its nice not having to deal with the random abdominal cramps and occasional pain I got from the Whey protein products I had to deal with when I was younger.
Which protein you taking right now?
Can you do a video about Spirulina? I have been taking this powder because of its high protein content and it is one of the few vegan products that are considered a complete protiens
I've heard some bad things about spirulina. Don't know if it's true though.
Every protein except maybe for gelatine is a complete protein, as far as I know. Can you find a single normal plant that is not complete?
@@Arbmosal It's not about containing every amino acid, but rather about having them in the correct ratios. I don't know how much it actually matters, if at all, but that's the idea.
At doses in which they provide a meaningful amount of proteins for an athlete, spirulina has many dangerous properties. The advised limit is somewhere around 5 g per day (even if you take a high-quality spirulina with low heavy metal contamination). Its micronutrients are certainly interesting for vegetarians, at small doses, but the protein argument is -I believe- totally overstated.
@Viktor Pedrova Well that's terrifying!
This is unrelated to the actual video, just wanted to say your videos are awesome and of great help 💪💪
It is true that some proteins increase muscle protein synthesis better than others, but research also shows us that what’s really important is the amount of protein you eat in a day.
In conclusion if you are eating enough protein in a day you are gonna hit every single amino acids you need to build muscle optimally by default wether you are consuming it from animal sources or plant sources.
I really needed this video. Thanks for looking at all aspects of health
Totally agree with soy being the best. Not only does it have the complete amino acid profile etc. but it raises IGF1 hormone even more than protein from animal sources like whey etc.
and IGF1 is the hormone that makes your muscles and bones grow. For example we know that HGH is responsible for growth .. well not really because the body can’t use HGH for growth. HGH is needed for the making of IGF1 in the liver and that hormone is used for bone and muscle growth.
And every plant is low in methionine which is good because methionine is linked to cancer and aging. Low methionine diets are critical for those who have cancer and who don’t want to develop one.
thanks for focusing on vegan protein. i understand that research may be lacking, but there is more to vegan protein than just rice, soy and pea. i use a blend of pea, faba bean, soy, hemp and sunflower protein made by theproteinworks (europe) and it is the best ive tried so far. i admit i dont know the ratio tho, they dont say on the packaging..
Great timing! I was just getting into my bulk and was wondering about this for a while. Thanks!
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Please talk about insect protein powders like cricket! It's in a weird middle ground between vegan and animal based proteins and nobody's talking about it. I would love to know how it stacks up between other proteins.
What kind of a hell hole do you live in that has cricket protein? Never even heard of such thing exists. Quite gross.
Insect proteins are typically heavily fortified with other sources of aminos. If that's necessary, I'd rather stick with something that already has it than tinker around with a lower AA product.
insect protein is very low in useful content- why do you think they have a lifespan of hours/days?
It's not vegan at all.
I use combination of hemp, pea and rice protein💚
which one is that? I have been looking for a good blend
Thanks for making this I'm allergic to whey and needed a substitute
Thanks for not leaving us out! Love the content!
Nice vid mate and thanks for all the help in the discord, that qna you did earlier was extremely helpful 😎
Thanks for the video!
I don't care about veganism, but I'm lactose intolerant and also whey protein causes acne in my case, so I was looking for a non animal source
Did you decide to take plant based protein? Does it cause breakout?
@@Kayy_SS I recently bought pea protein isolate from myprotein but it was so damn salty I couldn't just mix it with water, it was downright terrible. Will need to buy some almond milk or something to mix it with.
It shouldn't cause breakouts though.
I'd personally steer away from soy so there are few options left...
@@lambdacode1503 Guess what? I just placed 2 orders of 5.5lbs of pea protein isolate from myprotein.com right after I wrote you that question smh. Was yours flavored or unflavored? Please tell me yours was flavored because I bought Unflavored ones lol
@@Kayy_SS lol, mine is unflavoured but some people do like it.
As of now I only tried it with plain water, maybe with something else it's not as bad.
Good luck and let me know how it is for you.
@@lambdacode1503 I like the chocolate flavour, not the biggest fan of their strawberry. Was about to order and try their coffee and walnut pea protein but it appears they no longer sell that flavour. I prefer to create my own mix of pea & rice protein but might try out their own blend just for the more flavour options.
im surprised that quinua wasnt in the list as it is source of “complete protein” the issue with soy is that its highly allergenic with pea protein also being somewhat allergenic. However quinua and (brown) rise are very hypo allergenic and are therefore used as a blend. one very good example of that is Botanica plant based anti flamatory protein blend which is composed of quinua, brown rise turnmeric and a few other ingredients known to decrease inflamation. another verybgood example is Metagenics UltraClear and Ultra ImflamX 360 a bit expensive but highly highly effective
There are several studies suggesting pea protein performs just as well if not better than whey, also the pea protein groups did not have to take double the amount of grams as suggested in this video.
It's not double the amount per se, but increasing both amounts to reach the same leucine threshold.
@@PictureFit Yes if focusing on leucine then you would need more pea to match whey. In the studies participants were given the same amount of grams of protein which would mean the pea group received less leucine however they get much more arginine. Which suggest perhaps leucine is less important when arginine levels are high.
For all those complaining about ordering soy or rice or pea in plain form without flavorings added, and for newbies:
It’s cheaper to buy bulk non-flavored versions of these protein isolate and non-flavored make it more versatile and way less expensive. So make your own flavors. This can easily be done by adding flavor extracts. You can find natural McCormick flavor extracts in most stores in the spice isle. They usually have banana flavor extract, strawberry, orange, coconut, vanilla. Mix and match them or use just one. You can also add them in with fruit. For example add orange extract with oranges or banana extract with bananas. Or add cacao powder in for chocolate flavor and a sweetener, or coconut with it to. Or bananas and coconut with the cacao.
I like to add 1) at least one flavor extra. (depending on which kind of shake I want), 2) some kind of fruit to sweeten it and match with the extracts and add healthy carbs, and 3) some kind of 0 calorie sweetener such as Truvia. Truvia and the Splenda brand of monk fruit and stevia are the two best ones IMO to add to shakes. Usually have to add extra sweetener if using more bitter powders such as cacao and pea/rice, especially if you don’t want all the calories.
Example shakes:
35 grams cacao
1 serving of pea and also 1 of rice
1-2 cups soy milk for base
Pinch of salt
8-9 TBLSPOONS Truvia
Vanilla extract
300-500 grams bananas - depending on how many carbs you want in the shake. My breakfast pre-workout shake is usually 80-100 g carbs and 50+ G protein and only a little fat. If you need less calories lower fat and carbs slightly or eat fewer calories later in the day to compensate. If you need less calories, use less banana and increase the extract of banana and natural 0 cal sweetener to compensate as another option.
Banana extract and/or coconut extract depending on whether you want coconut banana or just banana + chocolate flavor.
ALSO: if the Truvia or Splenda sweeteners are granulated, you can mix it up into a powder in a blender or vitamin or nut nitrobullet or ninja bullet blender before adding to the shake so it dissolves easily.
I'm vegan and i use bulkpowders vegan protein a blend of Pea Protein Isolate, Brown Rice Protein, Pumpkin Protein, Flaxseed Powder and Quinoa Flour. Its perfect and tastes niceeee
klaas jan which flavour do you use? I only tried chocolate peanut, which i didnt like very much. Now i am debating between white choc coconut and banana caramel, those two being the most popular.
@@furkanfb42 vanilla
Thank you for this video. I was waiting for for it
Yaye you read my comment on your previous videos!!! Was waiting for this video for a while
Thank you for doing a video on this!!
good stuff, thank you for the information.
My pleasure.
Thanks PF!
I'm hearing more noise about collagen supplementation. Know nothing about this. Consider exploring this in future video??? Thanks!
I have!
Thanks for the video, much appreciated:)
Great Video!!
I absolutely love Probase Nutrition Vegan Proteins and their Superfoods are the best. They don't use any flavors, any colorants or fillers. And best of all, most their products are organic.
I've been looking forward to this video for a long time. Thank you for making it #plantpower
Go to bulk supplements and get Pea Protein. Cheap as dirt, dairy free obviously (most importantly for me) and it really doesn’t taste that bad, especially when you get used to it. I bought 5kgs worth (165 servings) for ~$90-100). Deflee worth it
Thanks for this video! I am allergic to rice (confirmed by testing) and I don’t digest whey well. I use Naked Pea protein powder.
From where do you get the specific ratio of 70/30 pea/rice blend to be the optimal ratio? I've got a guy on reddit claiming 60/40 rice/pea (not pea/rice) is the optimal ratio (best matches the ratio of whey). He also seem to have calculations to back it up.
THANK YOU!
And FINALLY!😁
Leanfit Complete Green Protein powder at Costco. 21 grams of protein per serving with 5 Vegetarian sources including pea and rice. My bother has been using it for years because of lactose intolerance and he has nothing but praise for it.
Respect to people transitioning to vegan diets. It ain't easy. Make sure you eating whole foods instead of processed stuff just cuz its vegan. Do research before going full vegan. And make sure you get enough calories
Could you do a video about Vegan vs Non-Vegan bodybuilding?
I'm not vegan, just lactose intolerant and being next to me when i take whey is suicide
bought pure pea protein isolate & purebrown rice protein isolate separately and mixed them which is less costly compared to buying vegan protein containing both(pea+rice) premixed.
hey legend, just watched game changers just wondering for your personal opinion on it as I really respect your opinion as most of my gym information comes from you. Thanks
Lol so the $16 Costco Vegan protein that I've been buying is working lol
Can u make a video on pros and cons of vegan diet ?
Sunwarrior Warrior Blend is the GOAT
Vega Essentials is my favorite. It's made from pea, flax seed, and hemp proteins.
Awesome! Thanks for this video, I've been looking for something like this. Soy protein isolate has been my favourite protein powder by far, it has the best taste and consistency
are you sure that without GMO?
I did a little research and soy makes men hormones become very feminine.
@@erenjeager9442 doesn't seem to be the case. Do you have a study you could link?
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if this vid would have been like 3 day earlier I could have also ordered the 70/30 blend. but hey good to know for the next time!
I like eating meat. Occasionally eat nuts, rice, beans and protein/fiber bars. Do I still need to eat protein powder?
Have you calculated your total protein intake?
@@PictureFit no I have not. I will probably try some protein powder to make protein shake
That chill hop in da background tho😎
The best vegan protein is the one you can drink without wanting to puke. Seriously, rice/pea alone is AWFUL and I tried lots of them. Most drinkable vegan protein I found (here in central Europe) is by a country called "Nutri Plus" (3K or 6K) - it is VERY sweet though. But at least it doesn't feel like you are drinking sand.
I go for pea.
I'm not comfortable with soy and rice protein tastes bad. Also for I'm already consuming enough rice&oat so why not add something you don't usually eat :)
I want to ask two questions 1) for example, if a vegetable protein powder has the same grams of protein as a whey protein, are they equivalent in volume? and 2) a question, do vegetable proteins for volume also need amino acids?
I chose blend
Whey caused me bloating and acne even I'm good with cheese and milk
I tried pea proteins once, because I found some very cheap one. The main thing I would have to say is that it gets very thick when mixed with water and it's not convenient: you almost have to take your time to chew it like a proper solid meal and it's heavy on the stomach. And then, after that, you still have the problem that it's hard to digest: I don't know about bio-availability (I'm actually a bit sceptical with the bioavailability arguments) but what I do know is that I could *feel* it on my stomach for a long time.
For an omnivore, convenience is by far the number one good reason to use protein powder instead of solid food (maybe not for vegan, because cutting on a vegan diet without powders would require an insane amount of cardio).
Totally agree!
Whey gives me acne and makes me feel bloated. For me, pea has worked great.
Ive never tried any protein
Do u recommend me start withpea protein
Thanks!
A lot of vegan proteins come from Pumpkin seeds too but pumpkin seeds are delicious by its self
having too much raises sodium (if processed) and fat content.
SantomPh same goes for meat yk
Pea protein from protein fortified almond milk is my favorite.
Hemp protein is the only one that doesn't bother my tummy and stomach
Idk why someone doesn’t create a protein powder with peanuts with the fat and carbs removed
It's probably not that easy. I had some. Just 50 percent protein though. Tastes great. I think the amino Profile sucks too.
Just so you know. Soy is thick as hell (needs 3x more liquid than whey to become drinkable) and also it's foamy as hell, Otherwise taste is alright, neutral I'd say. Pea is liquidy, but taste is horrible. There is that overwhelming pea bitter aftertaste and it is really concentrated (Bought pea and rice blend and had to combine with soy to be able to drink that). Whey is king in taste and texture and everything, the only reason I tried vegan protein is because of slight acne breakouts from dairy. But I will probably go back to whey, resp. classic protein blends, as acne breakouts seems to be mainly from lactose and so proteins, hard cheeses and butter don't cause much of an issue.
Does mixing one scoop of whey and one vegan protein powder make sense?
not really. the excess protein will just be removed from the body
What about broccoli protein? I had a mix of pea & broccoli but the smell was an odor like farts, the smell itself made it hard to drink, had to throw it away...
Pea's taste is a disgrace.
As a vegan, besides eating diversily and hitting protein goals, I haven't been checking for leucine ingestion. Should I worry? What are the best vegan sources of leucine?
I would take vegan protein, but it just taste so bad....
Anyone know a good tasting one or at least flavorless?
buy flavorless, put berries milk or butter in it
Umh, does whey protein taste any better? It's all about the blend. I use a cheap soy protein with no added flavour, blended in a blender with soy milk (or even water), a little bit of cinnamon and maca, and it's fine. Can add cocoa powder and a bit of sugar or syrup too. It's not real food anyway and not gonna taste like one.
I personally like soy protein the best, it's not chalky and the taste is really neutral
Vitamin B whey definitely taste good, I always look forward to taking it.
Try 'Vega' brand
Possible to include hemp as a vegan option? How does it stack up?
Less protein, more calories. Its flavor is the nicest (which doesn't mean it's nice), IMO.
You need to review RAW Nutritional Vegan Pro protein powder! Awesome products!!!
I have been consuming vegan protein for some time now and I have some opinions on them. Specifically, I have been consuming two shakes daily: one for breakfast with 50g of pea and 25g of hemp and one before going to bed with 25g of each. This is all in comparison to whey, which is what I used to take.
- They taste very bad. So bad that if you just mix them with some liquid they will make you want to vomit. You're basically forced to mix them with something. So far I have only obtained acceptable results by mixing them with chocolate powder (+calories). If flavor is a concern, don't even consider these.
- They make me make diarrhea very often. This is very uncomfortable.
- They don't seem to be making me develop muscle any faster. Not any slower either, however.
- They're very difficult to mix. I must always use a blender. This is an extra effort that, done daily, adds up.
- They contain more calories than whey and are very slow to digest, making you feel full for longer.
- They're cheaper, no wonder why.
Unfortunately, I bought so much that I'll have to continue using them for many more weeks. Can't wait for the day they're over to return to whey. It's just better in so many ways that it's not worth ditching.
In conclusion: don't consume them. They're so much more trouble than they're worth.
Damn... You rely on research instead of your private opinion? It seems absurd to actually have to apologize for that. Keep up the good work
Looking into steel protein cause it’s a pea and rice blend and has really good taste reviews
I don't understand the problem with my body . I can eat almost all the dairy products but when it comes to protein I can't digest it . Neither raw nor isolate . I guess I'll switch to vegan sources
Some say bcaa is useless. Don't know if it's correct but does using it helps to make up for the low amount of lysine in soy protein?
Okay but what about the whole heavy metals in vegan proteins. I just want to know which ones are safe. Dx don’t care about the taste
What about hemp protein? Does it lack in something or not?
When you combine various vegan protein powders to match the amino acid composition of the egg, that is the best vegan protein.
Best one is chocolate salted caramel from Awesome Supps, you’re welcome
Tasty😄
That's expensive as hell, I got tasty ones on proteinworks, coffee caramel
Celest cheap as chips pal, £28 for 40 scoops
@@Account1746 it's even cheaper on protein works, if you buy several kilos and use their coupon codes, you can easily get 1kg for less than 10€
Celest Yh but this is the best tasting and best mixing, I’ve tried protein works and they’ve got nothing on awesome supps, quality over quantity
I Got alot of acne while taking whey protein, does vegan prevent acne ?
I have the same question, hopefully someone responds
Acne is mostly genetic . Washing your face , wearing sunscreen specifically for your face , moisturizing , exercise , and avoiding foods like diary do help ! But take in mind some eat dairy and don’t get acne but for some it makes it worse . Try cutting our dairy for a month or longer and see if it improved!!! If it doesn’t then it most likely doesn’t affect you but if your face clears up and isn’t as red then stick to avoiding dairy
Yes vegan definitelyyy helps, diary all togethers a huge cause for acne
Rich piana is the best vegan!
Hemp seed will always be the best.
Would it be good to have a bcaa supplement if you have vegan protein powder?
It depends...
so best is to basically just take soy protein + eaa + glutamin? then i'm complete right?
I have bought gold nutrition v protein based on pea and rice protein. One scoop has 20 grams of protein. Isn't it enogh for one shake and protein? I ask because you said 50 g of this compared to whey, that means i would have to use two scoops.