Handling a Mouthy/ Biting Horse

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  • @josebarrientes177
    @josebarrientes177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is by far the best video on this type of horse. I just bought a racing quarter horse and he is exactly like Jelly bean in the biting part. This video hit the spot not even Clinton Anderson nor Parelli nor the other well known trainers have a video like this one thanks.

  • @nualac.galbari6527
    @nualac.galbari6527 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    As noted in the video, you need to apply patience to work with this issue. I have a Palomino who nips if you bother him in his stall or there's hay in there. On some days, he's well behaved; then he can turn again on another day and try to bite. I use a hair brush, when I am grooming (mane brush) and if he turns toward me, he gets the teeth of the brush in his jaw.This works well, but you have to keep applying the taps, the brush, or working to push him away, as he'll do it if you are off guard. I work on this daily. He's beginning to improve.Poor handling/abuse caused this problem, so it's not going to go away overnight.

    • @samanthacorbett2282
      @samanthacorbett2282 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nuala C. Galbari Could you give me an update on your pally? I have almost word for word the same horse and situation- but a stud. Maverick is a mouthy horse but I’m trying some warwick schiller “stimulus” techniques by rubbing his mouth when he bites. He seems to have gotten better but I love to hear what works for others

    • @jayskestrel8130
      @jayskestrel8130 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, I think all palominos are a bit mouthy. No idea why. My palomino nips, my neighbor's nips, my bus driver's palomino nips.

    • @perelandra21
      @perelandra21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jayskestrel8130 I don't think color really has to do with anything in that case. It could be a coincidence, as it's pretty common for horses to be nippy. It also depends on how you handle them. But who knows lol.

  • @LeslieKazadi
    @LeslieKazadi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic! I have a young gelding who is mouthy and the reasons seem to be a combination of play, teething, allogrooming, frustration and food/treat anticipation. Been told to stop R+ training or any hand treats, keep hands away from his head altogether and to correct him by smacking him in the mouth?! Instead, I have been trying distraction, doing my best to minimize frustration, and having a whip handy to block or move (NOT whack) him but also no hand treats. Your tips will give me more tools that feel so much better for both of us in the long run. TY!

  • @MarineA96
    @MarineA96 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really helpful. There is a school horse I ride that is great outside his box, but is very mouthy, defensive and biting in his box or when it's time to bring him outside. Dressing him in his box is also not an option as he'll try to "flatten" you against the wall. So far, solutions were asking the help of "respected" riders or resorting to tricks such as luring him out with food, catching him when outside and having someone close the door behind if not he'll bolt for his box. He calms down once the box is off-limits and becomes the sweetest horse after. Looking forward to other such videos on horse behaviour and learning about such approaches.

  • @jennywrenn469
    @jennywrenn469 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for your video, some good tips. I have a 14 y/o arab-mix gelding who can be very pushy & nippy. Similar to Jelly, he is playful but also will try to get out of doing things he doesn't want to do. My mistake was giving him lots of treats & not establishing proper leadership when I first got him. As I grew physically stronger & wiser, we've made progress. Still, he does test me, try to bully me & sometimes bite. Your video provided some good thoughts on dealing w/ these isssues :-)

  • @skyfirefarm
    @skyfirefarm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a gelding who is exactly like Jelly! I think I now have some good tools to work with him on this! Thank you for sharing this video!

  • @AudreyThielman
    @AudreyThielman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this video, I definitely will be trying out this method. I've seen in so many other videos, with horses that are already trained not to bite. But I needed someone who was going through the same thing as me. My horse currently has this same behavior.

  • @Kenney9120
    @Kenney9120 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have always found prevention to be better than cure if possible which means controlling the head and not playing with it because it responds with teeth. When putting a halter on one you can use your elbow to check (Not hit,,just keep its mouth away) any attempt to bite and when entering a stall you can hold up a rake handle in front of the horse's face and this will ward it off so you can enter the stall quietly. If possible., it should have peers to interact with so it can groom and bite according to it's instincts and learn that the two legged horses are simply not reachable for chewing.
    Hitting and even patting and scratching (Or grooming) trigger responses in a horse so control the head any time you work on one and remove as much as possible any chance to bite.

  • @sidilicious11
    @sidilicious11 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonderful video. You did well with Jelly. We have a young gelding so I learned some good tips! Special aloha to Moloka'i.🌴

  • @rosebroussard9493
    @rosebroussard9493 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It would be awesome if you did a video on some basic groundwork/round pen work. Also, I have a horse who rears and kicks out when asked to go forward-he's lazy, but completely sound. How do I handle that?

    • @angeldivine408
      @angeldivine408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rose Broussard do some work with his feet , back him up . Every time he’s aggressive move his feet and pet him when he listens to u

    • @christinas596
      @christinas596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The dapple grey thoroughbred I bought I’m having these issues with, the lady I bought him with was such a liar but, he’s pushy and bites and while riding when I kick he turns to bite or kicks his back legs up at me! I’m seeing slow slow progress with Him starting to actually understand and listen to me but it’s a little scary!

  • @jandunn3075
    @jandunn3075 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I find that for a horse that is mouthy when you're handling them what works for me is not allowing the horse to even swing his head into my space. what works for me is to curl my fingers up like I'm picking up a golf ball and the moment their head starts to move towards me I poke it at their cheek, it simulates another horse biting them. it establishes respect and Leadership. I don't like the idea of holding on to the halter even if you're not trying to control their head is it still allows the horse to put his head into your space which is disrespectful.

    • @camrynsceals7062
      @camrynsceals7062 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im going to try this with my horse. Thank you! 😊

    • @shannamcpherson3864
      @shannamcpherson3864 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @lucasa1849
      @lucasa1849 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like this way better also. Her way isn’t really like a lead horse, shes just annoying the horse alot in my opinion

    • @doththesloth2022
      @doththesloth2022 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah.... I did this and really does not work for my horse! Sure it'll stop her from nipping me in the moment but ultimately isn't a long term problem solver....

    • @bwci33
      @bwci33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I call that flick with a finger a "bip". I was going to rename my new Andalusian Bip because I had to do that so often. He actually tries to control himself, but he is a former stallion and very playful, so we have to work on this nipping from time to time. And he hates me holding on to the cavesson to do work on the hand. But seeing this, I think patience will win out... someday...

  • @bimbim331
    @bimbim331 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How did you get the halter on him in the first place? I'd like to see a video on a horse who is difficult to halter please

  • @fridask6726
    @fridask6726 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hi! I ride a school horse, he is very forward horse in the walk but I can't get him to trot or canter unless I have a horse trotting or cantering infront of him. And if I get him in the trot or in the canter I can't take a circle or turn whitout him slow down to walk.
    And he got a habit to bit at me when I want him to move in the stable. He can also buck alot, and just stop whit out notice.
    Hope you can help me or give me some short of a tip because I don't want other pepole to kick him to much or pull his mout to much.
    I love your metod and how you train horses. Keep up the good work!

    • @benjaminthe4357
      @benjaminthe4357 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try working with the horse, the horse doesn’t trust or respect you, through training the horse will begin to see you as leader

    • @jayskestrel8130
      @jayskestrel8130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just sounds like a leadership problem tbh. You need to work with him and teach him to respect you. Don't ever let him get his way or walk over you either. Even if it gets to the point you may have to use a riding crop to get a trot or canter. You also need to know your horse and try to think one step ahead of your horse.
      I have a rescue with these kinds of issues plus her being barn sour. I once let my guard down riding her outside, and she took off with me and ran me through a fence trying to get to the barn. Tore my leg open but I still have her.

  • @comesahorseman
    @comesahorseman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my pet peeves is a mouthy horse, honestly don't have much use for them. Thanks for posting this, I'll remember it the next time...

  • @kaylasimone211
    @kaylasimone211 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank u this really helped me with my wb mare!! I must ask for you to please please do more grownd work videos please! This was so so helpful

  • @judithcollins4499
    @judithcollins4499 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed your video....I have a 3 month old colt that I need to be working with, picking up his feet, lead and back up...but he is constantly grabbing the lead rope and/or trying to grab me.....Also if he is on a loose lead he will walk straight towards me (I assume to play)....it's very intiminating....need to know how to properly reprimand and stop the biting.....I do not have anyone to help me so its hard to achieve....

  • @bwci33
    @bwci33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure all will not agree with this tactic, but I have to work my horse with a cavesson and he hates being held at his head. He is mouthy and nips and has teeth problems at the moment, which we are going to solve) but this bitey behavior is a no no and he is just going to have to learn to deal with this kind of training on the cavesson. Little treats from time to time are a very positive help. My horse knows he isn't going to get a treat all the time, but hope springs eternal and he does his best, and if he gets a bonus sometimes he is happy to come back for more work.

  • @louisehicks315
    @louisehicks315 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much I'm just trying to train a horse that lookd a banded in a field near me

  • @ellenstiles2321
    @ellenstiles2321 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my horse is like this .this vidio really helped give me some ideas to stop his biting.

  • @chardsmaryl1
    @chardsmaryl1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here’s a great video on why horses bite and the science behind it:
    th-cam.com/video/X0GG49my3Qk/w-d-xo.html
    “Horses that Bite - How to Fix Anything With Horses presented by Elite Horsemanship”.

  • @JuliaN-fi9zw
    @JuliaN-fi9zw 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My lease horse has decided he’s going to push all of my buttons and try to bite/headbutt whenever I’m around his head which isn’t okay so someone will be getting some smacks

  • @Patrolsx
    @Patrolsx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did you get the halter on without him biting?

  • @amandam8623
    @amandam8623 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you do a video about really pushy horses? We have a horse that will walk right into us and push us over. We've done ground work with her but it doesn't really seem to make a difference. She's also nippy and can have a really bad attitude.

    • @lifeaslauren2837
      @lifeaslauren2837 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you still need the help. Grab a long sturdy stick and let her walk toward you, when she gets in your bubble of space smack her on the chest or side of her neck. This tells her that if you come towards me aggressively you get a smack on the chest.If she's still coming toward you after the first tap, smack her harder. Soon she'll get the idea and you should start teaching her to back up.

    • @Dylan-ez5qx
      @Dylan-ez5qx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lifeaslauren2837 thats good. also teaching them wth the lead rope by waving it that that means back up and if the dont that the lead rope with cause even more pressure. then they get a release when the get out of mmy space.

  • @janetgerl893
    @janetgerl893 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think some horses are just saying “get your hands off my face”. And I get that. I can imagine me being the horse that doesn’t want that micro managing. So I use other ground exercises to avoid holding on to their head.

  • @patriciagernux
    @patriciagernux 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    would this work with an 18 month old philly? to use a stick and bump her nose, so far anything ive done she has grown more agitated and more mouthy. i rescued her from a slaughter house, so i have no idea what has happened to her b4 me, but shes also my first philly that im working with.

    • @shelbywithmistyandgeorge8926
      @shelbywithmistyandgeorge8926 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Patricia Gernux same here

    • @shelbywithmistyandgeorge8926
      @shelbywithmistyandgeorge8926 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well except with my 3 year old

    • @alexaregoord5509
      @alexaregoord5509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With my boss’s stud colt, when he bites me, I flick or poke him in the nose so he moves away. If he’s super pushy I make him walk circles around me, or move his feet in some other way. Not to say it’s perfect, but he’s slowly getting the concept.

    • @This1LifeWeLive
      @This1LifeWeLive 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Smacking a horse can make it worse. Mine does this to get under my skin and I found out pretty quick that a thump on the nose makes him bite 3x more! Instead tell him to back up, I use the parelli rope shake since grabbing the lead rope by his head makes him bite too. Or use a stick to rap him on the chest while shaking rope back and firth to back up. They WILL STOP biting when you keep asking to back up for each bite.

  • @seletan1
    @seletan1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really enjoy watching your videos! Thank you! :)

  • @yeetyeetyeetyeet8471
    @yeetyeetyeetyeet8471 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I go to a stable once a week, and I lead a horse around when I’m there. But when I lead him, he tries to nip at me. He’s about 2.5 years old, apparently he has an attitude. He’s not my horse, he does get lead by other people when I’m not there. How should I get him to stop biting me? Or is it something I can change from myself? (Maybe walking to close, or walking to fast/slow?)

    • @Nimeariel
      @Nimeariel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Be aware of your surroundings (aka his location compared to yours) and when you lead him, carry a stick (or a crop or small whip) like she does in the video, but in your right hand with the lead rope and your hand/arm just slightly away from his face (you should always be standing on the left side of the horse), pointed up vertically near his face so if he DOES go to swing at you, just one flick of your wrist pops him in the nose/face and tells him "hey- that's not cool!" He might go to toss his head or try again, but DON'T GIVE UP!! Just pop him every time he goes to swing his head at you.

  • @charlottewakelin9013
    @charlottewakelin9013 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Would be extremely helpful if you could do a video on how to jump? I'm just learning how to jump and I find it quite confusing on the position needed. Thanks!

  • @dkp7895
    @dkp7895 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you use vocal queues when you are tapping, or teaching not to bite? Different sounds for different behavioral requests basically, one for positive change, one for negative behavior?

  • @dianereiser6417
    @dianereiser6417 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I didn't see you give the horse any release. Surely there has to be a better way then this.

    • @katebulletd756
      @katebulletd756 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diane Reiser there is. This just agitated the horse. It barely taught him anything, there are MUCH MUCH better ways.

    • @katebulletd756
      @katebulletd756 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brit Mito yeah but there NEEDS to be a good release for the horse to learn. I have a nippy horse and I can tell you, this horse wasn't going good to be aggressive and immediately turn and bite her. She is trying to solve the issue before it even happens. You have to correct him when he his
      So he doesn't do it next time he won't learn if you correct him before he even thought now about it. He won't learn anything.

  • @lcampbell9837
    @lcampbell9837 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't mention growling at the horse. I wonder if you growl too? When I had a spirited horse I growled at him once and he jumped to attention basically.

  • @fifthavenuegirl
    @fifthavenuegirl 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a huge thoroughbred that used to do that to me. People told me hit him but I never did. Sometimes I gave him the lead rope to chew on. He eventually got over it -- I knew he would. It took 4 years, but he became my lovey-dovey boy. He was an ex-race horse OTTB

    • @Dylan-ez5qx
      @Dylan-ez5qx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      for me too. ottbs tend to be more mouthy, mine grew out of nipping because i let him lick my hands or chew on a lead rope lol. also i feel like this video is more about corrceting pushiness. my horse would nip, but he was never pushy like this

  • @bryanrooks21
    @bryanrooks21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible that this horse is in pain or has a tooth issue. While watching this video I got the impression that the horse is trying to tell you something like my teeth hurt or there's something? You did a nice job with him but I just can't past the cut feeling that something's wrong. Hope this helps.

    • @bwci33
      @bwci33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be. My hors has this problem. We couldn't get him to accept any bit. We couldn't see any problem with teeth, but yesterday we discovered some teeth coming in (about a year late). so we have to solve that problem now and then see how the biting goes.

  • @lydiapaines4074
    @lydiapaines4074 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, this video is great thankyou! I have a pony who is very touchy when I brush his stomach and will bite and even kick. He will also bite when you do his rug up at the front. Do you have any advice?

    • @lilyx1893
      @lilyx1893 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lydia Paines I have the same problem with my pony when you you rug up. When I tack up she strikes her back legs and tries to bite. She used to be in a riding school so she got biting from there but I don’t know how to stop it/help with it?

    • @Dylan-ez5qx
      @Dylan-ez5qx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilyx1893 i like to desensitize them with the tack, especially the schoolies. rub on their belly with the girth/rug until they stop being so reactive and give them a release. do on both sides and then repeat it daily. this also teaches them that the tack isnt a bad thing, it actually feels nice and when i stop biting and relax, she stops. this is also how i taught my baby how to let me touch his ears/pick up his feet.

  • @shelbywithmistyandgeorge8926
    @shelbywithmistyandgeorge8926 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jelly bean is exactly like my horse except she likes to kick when I even just go near her belly.. I will teach her this trick of not biting, thanks so much

  • @metalheadbisp
    @metalheadbisp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know a thing about horses, but I bike ride by one everyday now, don’t understand why he wants to bite me everyday

  • @colleensykes7564
    @colleensykes7564 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question about using a stick to tap him with. There is a young horse I want to use this technique with, but I'm afraid he will see the tap with the stick as a game. Would using the stick be an issue? What would be an alternative?

    • @Nimeariel
      @Nimeariel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would he see it as a game? To him, if you time it right, it hurts! He'll learn real quick that stick=no biting!! If you mean tapping him on the side to make him move, again- not a game if you are persistent and consistent. :-) If you don't want to use an actual stick, though, use a riding crop or short whip.

  • @rustydevil7192
    @rustydevil7192 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I am curious to why you would hand feed a bitey horse?😒

    • @Elena15441
      @Elena15441 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just to teach the horse how to take food properly, without biting.

  • @richardjones4259
    @richardjones4259 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think he just really likes you.

  • @kataminagenth8013
    @kataminagenth8013 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This did work but my horse 🐎 is very aggtesive what should I do

    • @mustangrebel8051
      @mustangrebel8051 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Katamina Genth you need to round pen him more, show him that you can move his feet and that you are higher than him and that you don't take no for an answer.

  • @annarisi6890
    @annarisi6890 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this is super good information.

  • @emmaoncesaid
    @emmaoncesaid 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi i wonder if you could give me some advice on my mouthy horse. See she's mouthy when I'm on the saddle and when I go to mount up. She bites my boot and leg when in on the saddle and when I'm mounting she goes for my leg that's in the stirrup. Any advice on how I can correct this behavior? (Btw it's not due to uncomfort, we have checked all her tack and everything)

    • @Nimeariel
      @Nimeariel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same idea as on the ground- use a whip or a crop or even your boot to, well, boot her in the nose every time. Get her to move her feet and focus on work and moving forwards instead. It's just a little different cuz now you're on top of her instead of on the ground, and horses are very one-sided. What you do in one context, they can't always apply to another. You have to do it in all the contexts. If that makes sense.

  • @steveadams99708
    @steveadams99708 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would you feed a mouthy horse - or any other horse for that matter?

  • @damnu8089
    @damnu8089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One more thing feeding a horse sugar cubes or Sweet Treats will cause one to bite for example if a horse knows you got a treat they'll even nudge you or nip at you that's the only way they can speak , also if you notice at the end of the trail ride a horse will get faster to make it to the trailer or Barn they know they're going to get a treat so stop doing that just enjoy the ride

  • @d4914
    @d4914 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    youre pretty brave.... don't think I could be that brave.

  • @LouiseMichaels
    @LouiseMichaels 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good recommendations!

  • @izamoon.luminarysinger
    @izamoon.luminarysinger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really helpful thanks

  • @kyliejellybean5638
    @kyliejellybean5638 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    jelly bean is like my horse but she has a lot of attitude and tries to pull away when asked what to do. the people who had her before did not properly halter break her so she does not listen very well

  • @kchajka
    @kchajka 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @poniesinthemist
    @poniesinthemist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely video.thanks

  • @kataminagenth8013
    @kataminagenth8013 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK I will try

  • @aleishabalneaves9426
    @aleishabalneaves9426 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing is I was feeding one of my horses a carrot and I had my hand out flat with a carrot on it? And he suddenly bit my end finger on my left hand and I have no idea why. The thing is he held on to my finger for around 10 seconds and it really bloody hurt. Any advice on my he grips on and doesn't let go??

    • @WuCandice
      @WuCandice 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When my fingers smell like food, sometimes I find that horses want to test out my fingers. I also think about their natural grazing habits and how they have to grab onto grass and pull it with their mouth. I’m not sure what it would be for your horse but these have been my observations.

  • @macbrebonicks8668
    @macbrebonicks8668 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Louis CK said a pony bit his daughter. I want to see him get some pointers.

  • @annchap1
    @annchap1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    to Amanda, Cali has a video on pushy horses to. I used it with great success!

  • @aleishabalneaves9426
    @aleishabalneaves9426 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @amberboston3154
    @amberboston3154 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Horse can't push and bite if you keep them out of your space in the first place. The answer is much simpler than the fancy english riders explain.

  • @damnu8089
    @damnu8089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see what you got now a treat bag really what do you think's on his mind you listen to someone that wrote a book that's probably never owned a horse. Treats or not how you train a horse ever

  • @damnu8089
    @damnu8089 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did not make it to the 3-minute mark on your video. The older generation you need to speak to about fixing this problem they'll tell you hold the halter and a horse starts to bite stick your finger in its mouth immediately in between the fangs keep it there until you can't. Now problem solved he will not bite. Horses do not like having things stuck in their mouth. If you don't believe me talk to someone 55 plus years old

  • @heidimule
    @heidimule 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be safer to just lunge him first.

    • @bwci33
      @bwci33 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No. He needs brain improvement.

  • @danielthomas6739
    @danielthomas6739 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These kinds of horses need to reminded of their place in the pecking order. Otherwise they can be dangerous
    The way this girl is going about it ain’t gonna do it. Sorry, but that’s the truth.

  • @hgarcia8339
    @hgarcia8339 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hal-T-er.
    Not halder.
    Halter. Say the T. That's annoying.

  • @elizdoy1e240
    @elizdoy1e240 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No. Just no. All of this is a no. There r far better ways to correct this.

    • @EeriWolfChannel
      @EeriWolfChannel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Alright give us all 5 straight examples of your better ways.

    • @hgarcia8339
      @hgarcia8339 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. I want till know too....

  • @elizdoy1e240
    @elizdoy1e240 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video has upset me.