Sensible Secondhand Classics: 1987 Volkswagen Polo Mark II 1.3 Ranger - Lloyd Vehicle Consulting

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    Welcome to Sensible Secondhand Classics, the series where we take a sensible classic car worth between £1000 and £5000 and put it through its paces in a very straightforward manner! This time we test a perfectly preserved 1987 Volkswagen Polo Mark II 1.3 Ranger. We experience terrible weather, no power steering, a lack of brake servo assistance (!), an incorrectly coloured grille surround, a very helpful rev counter and generally little of any consequence at all. Nothing untoward then!
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  • @6ettinold
    @6ettinold 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My mum had an almost new G plate Polo and kept it for years - it was faultless and I can't recall why she ever sold it. At the time, I thought it was the only attractive car that VW made. No doubt Golf fans will take offence, but the MK1 was always a better looking car.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I think a lot of people prefer the shape of the Mark I Golf for some reason.... These Mark II Polos were very popular with a certain type of person, I think, including many people in my family.

  • @roughchippy
    @roughchippy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely brilliant video my friend....I had one....D272GNX......Brand new, I was only about 19 yrs old...I loved it....little led lights on dash, sports seats, pretty quick too, wow.... I'm 55yrs old now .... Amazing....a special car for me....not seen one for YEARS.....

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As I mentioned in the video, we had lots of these in the family when I was growing up. I didn't like the ridiculously heavy steering, the awful brakes and the cramped interior, but my goodness me, it gave me a massive nostalgia hit. They are very rare now, aren't they? Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting!

  • @mattw8332
    @mattw8332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really wanted a mark 1 or 2 Polo for my first car. Because Volkswagen reliability! 😀 So much so that in 1994 after turning 17, I signed up with the AA driving school. They were using white post facelift Polo 1.3 CL coupes at the time 😁 I really liked the `mini-estate car' of these Polos, a lot more individual than the other superminis of the era.
    The lack of servoed brakes seem to be a VW trait up to the 2000s. The ones on my 1999 SEAT Ibiza needed a good shove.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, you probably used the same reasoning as most of my family as they chose these Mark II Polos time after time. I think I also prefer the look of the breadvan for some reason. My first car was a Mark III Polo, and the brakes were a lot better, but nothing like a modern car, of course!

  • @trabali5168
    @trabali5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By the time this pre-facelift mk2 was deleted for the mk2-f in 1991 it was looking dated. But these are tough cars and last a life time. PS i was surprised by the rev counter as well, VW were very penny pinching when it came to equipment/optional extras!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir, a very dated car by the time of the facelift, but so were the Metro, Uno, Micra and Nova, all of which were also facelifted or replaced by the time of the Mark III Polo's introduction in 1994. The rev counter was indeed a lovely surprise.

    • @trabali5168
      @trabali5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting yeah i suppose your right, the whole small car market was in need of an update at that point! The fiesta mk3 was looking quite modern though.........

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@trabali5168 , that's right, just a year old in 1990.

  • @garygriffiths2911
    @garygriffiths2911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm reminded by the rather sparse specification of this VW that my first car - a 1974 Mk3 Cortina 1.6L - wasn't exactly 'fully loaded' when it comes to equipment either. This parsimonious approach to the little luxuries of life didn't prevent some mentalist at Ford deciding to adorn the boot lid with a 'De Lux' badge!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, when they advertise things like a pop-up sunroof as a desirable option, we do start to worry a little bit... Definitely the parsimonious approach, an excellent way of describing it!

  • @davidanderson3425
    @davidanderson3425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brings back memories. I had a 1989 poverty spec Polo on a G plate. It had the 1050cc engine and a 4 speed gearbox. Incredibly slow and handled like a brick on wheels. I do remember it cruised quietly at motorway speeds and coped well with poor road surfaces. It would only sip fuel and a full tank seemed to last forever. In the end it was a bit too basic. I don't think mine even had a radio fitted. A guy down the road from me had the Formel E version.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, these really were a bit basic, weren't they? My father's one was definitely more basic than this, probably a C. His had a radio, so probably a step up from the one you had! Glad you enjoyed the video, definitely a nostalgic car for many of us.

  • @davidbreeze7425
    @davidbreeze7425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Polo C from 1982 had a 1.0 engine with only 40bhp. That engine was later upgraded to 45 bhp in the C.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds like an incredibly underpowered car! Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting.

  • @mpersad
    @mpersad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a beautifully maintained car! It just shows how well-preserved cars can be kept if you are lucky enough to be able to keep them out of the elements!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir! Mark has done an excellent job on keeping this car going for so long. The standard of this is extraordinary.

  • @Bates.N1
    @Bates.N1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was brilliant personally I find polos a bit uninteresting but this was a great watch my nan had a 1999 polo automatic pretty loud from what I remember

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, my first car was a 1998 Mark III Polo, and my family had owned several older ones by then, so it's more a nostalgia thing for me to have driven this rather than to say that it was the most stimulating car ever. I still found it very interesting with no brake servo, though...

  • @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain
    @scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love a breadvan, and what a great wee car Bad Books has and to hear that it's been owned from new just adds to the heritage of this car.
    Good choice of music as well.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir, we do like a bit of Tin Cans music (a band which recorded their music in Edinburgh)! This car is in amazing condition, although you do need to treat it carefully when going out for a drive in this sort of weather. Thank you for watching, sir!

  • @frothe42
    @frothe42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very much a Volkswagen of the time!
    Very familiar controls, one that you would find on other Volkswagen models.
    The turn signal lever was the same across models, and familiar to me as I owned very briefly a 1978 Volkswagen Rabbit (Golf) L, with a sunroof and aftermarket air conditioning.
    The only difference would be the steering wheel, this was never equipped on any US VW'S, either a two spoke or four spoke, which was more common in 1980's Volkswagens.
    I also find it unusual that you in the UK 🇬🇧 had carburettor engines while we in the US had Bosch Fuel Injection; I believe it was for emissions, and they would run better.
    An excellent, well looked after example, thank you for featuring this Polo Joseph!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, we had carburettor engined cars until around 1997 as Lada somehow got around the catalytic converter rules without using fuel injection on all of their cars (although definitely some of them). The indicator stalk is classic Volkswagen, and the whole interior is very, very austere.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badbooks476 , yes, I remember the old two spoke steering wheel, both with the Wolfsburg and Volkswagen logos depending on the model year.

  • @adamtoms2726
    @adamtoms2726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done Sir. I have a lot of love for the Mark 2 Polo and Mark 2 Golf. Both this era of Polo and Golf cemented Volkswagen's reliability and image in the UK of being quality products. We continue to see Volkswagen Polo and Golf sell incredibly well in this country today.
    This is a mighty fine example of a Mk2 Polo you just don't see them on the road so much now, and certainly not in that condition.

    • @PlanetautoUK
      @PlanetautoUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said, proper well built Germans - we can’t wait to get our Valver back on the road.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, most of them are either rusty or modified, this particular Mark II is almost original (some things like the wheels and the grille have been slightly altered) and been looked after with exceptional care.

  • @willswheels283
    @willswheels283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review Mr Lloyd, I never knew that there were forbidden fuel versions of the mk2 Polo,
    My first car after passing my test was a 1987 1.3 Polo CL, “Breadvan” and yes in comparison to modern motors they were fairly austere.
    Not the best cars for handling in fast bends from memory, they tended to pitch low into the corners.
    They were the same kind of car as a mk2 Fiesta or Vauxhall Nova of the time.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the Fiesta and the Nova must have been the main rivals at the time. It wasn't really that easy to go fast through the bends, anyway, so perhaps most people didn't notice the handling too much.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badbooks476 , thank you for your self-censorship, sir....

  • @markonmotoring
    @markonmotoring 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's easy to forget how spartan some of the small cars of that era were. Not just the poverty spec cars

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely, sir! Not much here in this "luxury" model, but we still drove them and coped OK with the lack of what we would call modern features, didn't we?

    • @markonmotoring
      @markonmotoring 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lloydvehicleconsulting I remember my 88 R5 TL seaming posh because it had a clock, rear wash wipe, front headrests and a passanger side door pocket, oh and wheel trims over the then base spec campus model. Back then though having a car with matching body panels was an achievement in its self and car ownership in general was seen as a privilege, not a right.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markonmotoring , indeed, sir! Front headrests, a clock and a rear wash/wipe were not necessarily expected on budget cars back in the day, were they?

    • @seancooke7332
      @seancooke7332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Try a foot operated plunger for the windscreen washers on a 1977 Ford Fiesta 950 L . That was a level above the base model.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seancooke7332 , a bit like the hand operated windscreen washer on the old Morris Minors!

  • @hoddy121john
    @hoddy121john 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review sir, my sister had one years ago they were a sturdy car, marks one is a beauty, that light green colour really suits it sir.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you liked it, sir! I would say that this one is silver rather than light green, but they were available in that colour. It is in amazing condition.

  • @PlanetautoUK
    @PlanetautoUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah the humble bread van, a vehicle of choice in the modding world, sparse even with higher trims - nice to see a standard model, I had those alloys on Mk1 Golf GTI Convertible. *B

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the alloy wheels were used on the Mark I Golf as well, and they look brilliant! These bread vans are still popular with modifiers, as you say, which I always find amazing. Mind you, most of them aren't particularly fast as standard, so perhaps that is not particularly surprising...

    • @PlanetautoUK
      @PlanetautoUK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@badbooks476 oh didn’t know this was yours too, very retro Dub, love it. When the Valvers eventually on the road they’ll have to meet.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@badbooks476 , we don't like it catching on the rear arch, do we, sir!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@badbooks476 , you have just demonstrated again why Mr Coleman does not really live up to his channel name and does actually know quite a lot.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badbooks476 , indeed, sir!

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner2229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Credit to the owner, looking after the same car for 34 years.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's absolutely amazing. Probably the car on the channel that I have filmed on the channel which has remained in the ownership of the same person for the longest out of any of them. Some have been owned by the same family for longer, but this one is still owned by the person who bought it new!

  • @jakehammond7972
    @jakehammond7972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did mk2 polo come in autos aswell

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have had a look, and I can't find any references to an automatic Mark II Polo anywhere, so I am assuming that they didn't exist. Thank you for watching!

  • @David_H-73
    @David_H-73 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its amazing how old fashioned these were in many ways, seperate bumpers, round headlights, only two dash vents , no brake servo. They were well made though and sold well. This is a lovely example and at least it has rev counter!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is absolutely right, sir! Very old fashioned in many ways, but largely dependable engineering and a massive sales success for Volkswagen in many countries. I do like the rev counter!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badbooks476 , it was fast enough given the fact that it doesn't weigh anything!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badbooks476 , it's a lot more refined than a Kent or A-Series engine, that's for sure!

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badbooks476 , that's right, the Simca Poissy engines in the Horizon was much noiser than the TU engines in the later 205s.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@badbooks476 , they did indeed, sir!

  • @TheGreatestPlayerInTheWorld
    @TheGreatestPlayerInTheWorld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a lovely example

  • @bs7157
    @bs7157 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's strange. i had one of these years ago. and it had the word 'Ranger' on the front wings. and back of the car. and it never had a sun roof like this one! nor alloy wheels. how come this one is different then? can't remember the year of mine now. metallic blue it was. had a polo 'formel E' before that as well.

    • @lloydvehicleconsulting
      @lloydvehicleconsulting  ปีที่แล้ว

      This early Ranger carries the "Polo C" badge on the back as well. This means that it was a special edition rather than the permanent trim level which the later Rangers were. I think that explains the specification differences. Thank you for watching!

    • @badbooks476
      @badbooks476 ปีที่แล้ว

      @B S. Ranger decals are on the front wings & tailgate, just not showed up on the video for some reason, the wheels are not original, they are Golf GTi Terantula alloys, Sunroof is a Britax factory option. It’s my car