Bach and the Cosmos

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  • Oxford Mathematics Public Lectures: James Sparks and City of London Sinfonia - Bach and the Cosmos
    Johann Sebastian Bach was the most mathematical of composers. Oxford Mathematician and Cambridge organ scholar James Sparks will explain just how mathematical and City of London Sinfonia will elaborate with excerpts from the Goldberg Variations.
    Please note this film does not include the concert performance of the Goldberg Variations in their entirety.
    The Oxford Mathematics Public Lectures are generously supported by XTX Markets.

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  • @FighterFred
    @FighterFred 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yes, that's what attracted me as well and then I went on and became a theoretical astrophysicist studying black holes described by Einstein's mathematics. Small world. But the excellent presenter forgot another key element in Bach which is the mysticism. Just as a pile of bricks is not a house, a pile of math structures is not a Bach piece. So, to me Bach is a miracle, never to be repeated.

  • @Strandjutter
    @Strandjutter 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks both the young mathematician and the musicians for this amazing, clear and inspiring lecture. I love thinking that art and mathematics have something in common.

  • @JH_Phillips
    @JH_Phillips 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fantastic. You always here how much Bach and mathematics go together, but I’ve never seen someone break it down so elegant and systematically as this. Thank you!

  • @krokigrygg
    @krokigrygg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mozart was interested in mathematics from a very young age.
    As a child, Mozart showed a strong interest in numbers and mathematical concepts alongside his musical talents.
    There's a well-known anecdote about young Mozart being found by his father Leopold scribbling mathematical calculations on the floor at home. When asked what he was doing, Mozart replied that he was working on mathematical calculations.
    .
    Mozart often incorporated mathematical concepts into his compositions. His music demonstrates a unique blend of musical and mathematical creativity.
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    Mozart's music frequently features various forms of symmetry, which can be analyzed mathematically. For example, his compositions often include patterns that repeat and rotate, similar to symmetries found in geometric shapes.
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    Some musicologists have identified specific structural formulas in Mozart's compositions, suggesting a mathematical approach to his musical organization.
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    Mozart was known to scribble mathematical equations in the margins of his compositions, further indicating his interest in mathematics.
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    While the exact nature of the relationship between Mozart's mathematical interests and his musical genius is debated, many researchers acknowledge a connection between musical and mathematical talent.
    However i would take this relation with musical and mathematical talent with a grain of salt, since Beethoven did a pretty good job despite beeing terrible at mathematics.
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  • @iraeich
    @iraeich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This all very interesting. However, I believe, JSB never thought about how mathematics intersected with music. He had a devine gift...he just did it.

    • @nomeaning4771
      @nomeaning4771 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Its not quite true though. He tried to be the 14th member of a society interested in music and math because the his name gave the number 14 when you add the corresponding numbers of the letters in his name. B=2 A=1 C=3 H=8. So you see he had a natural curiosity towards this intersection of music and math.

    • @elibear8530
      @elibear8530 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was the result in a big way of his lineage. The knowledge and ability to create elegantly balanced music is a carefully developed gift. which is devine

    • @dennyboleware8408
      @dennyboleware8408 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @iraeich, apparently there was no greater influence on Bach than Newton. He attributed his discoveries not to "innate giftedness" or talent, but hardwork.

    • @soavemusica
      @soavemusica 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bach`s Passions, such as "Ruht wohl, ihr heiligen Gebeine", lead me to say this Good Friday, as it is written: PSALM 92: 1 "It is a good thing to give thanks unto the LORD, and to sing praises unto thy name, O most High: 2 To shew forth thy lovingkindness in the morning, and thy faithfulness every night, 3 Upon an instrument of ten strings, and upon the psaltery; upon the harp with a solemn sound."

  • @bonnogetz
    @bonnogetz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Awesome video! Been studying the inventions and I keep being amazed by the satisfactory mathematical techniques Bach uses. Loved this informative lecture to better understand his work.

  • @charlesgrant-skiba5474
    @charlesgrant-skiba5474 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great composers are like the Himalayas. Above them there is only the sky, and higher up Bach begins...

  • @user-zz8ds8or3k
    @user-zz8ds8or3k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fascinating and freaky at the same time ... How deep can you go to "explain" Bach´s music? ... The answer, my friend, is not blowing in the wind but you will find it here!

  • @walteralvarezperalta6270
    @walteralvarezperalta6270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Bach es el Dios de música... su cerebro matemático de Dios queda evidenciado también en la música de Bach. Amo en demasía a Bach. Cuando esté en el cielo una de las primeras personas que buscare será a Bach. Saludos desde Lima

  • @althea888YT
    @althea888YT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a moving lecture!! ❤

  • @FilipSandecomposer
    @FilipSandecomposer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for shring such a great and interesting lecture!

  • @Lucy-wi5wj
    @Lucy-wi5wj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for posting this! I intended to go, but being 300 miles away and hearing about it last minute made it slightly impossible.

  • @malcolmledger176
    @malcolmledger176 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    C.P.E. Bach is reported to have said that his father was not interested in "dry mathematical stuff", (whatever he meant by that.) Does working out permutations in order to provide structure count? And what about the supposed numerology behind his music?

  • @aurelian9817
    @aurelian9817 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have never gotten into the depth with research and all...but the variations have always been addicting and modern beyond anything for me...I have dreamt of bach several times.

  • @zerksari
    @zerksari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best lectures I have seen. And Ive been in University for 6.5 years. Take that as you wish. ;-)

  • @GuillermoPSKrebs
    @GuillermoPSKrebs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    31:55 love the algebraic interpretation of canon structure!

  • @thinkbaroque
    @thinkbaroque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This lecture is fascinating. Thank you for sharing it.

  • @hs7921
    @hs7921 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very informative for a musical novice like myself.

  • @rayannlogan9590
    @rayannlogan9590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    His smile of pure delight at 23:46

  • @adeapirdeni7069
    @adeapirdeni7069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing lecture!!!

  • @gogigaga1677
    @gogigaga1677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    INCREDIBLE LECTURE

  • @Maestro_Ludwig
    @Maestro_Ludwig 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    enlightening.

  • @daucuscarota6602
    @daucuscarota6602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very interesting and insightful lecture. But I must say that I would have preferred the Goldberg variations being played on a keyboard instrument instead by a chamber orchestra. With the Art of the Fugue this is perfectly possible, but the Goldberg variations are simply to virtuos for an orchstra.

    • @theavodkado
      @theavodkado 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I didn't think the timbre of the strings suited the music. Too messy!

    • @aelfrice
      @aelfrice 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      To my dull ears, the Art of Fugue is a keyboard work. It's Bach's treatise on keyboard fugal writing that synthesizes the florid renaissance style with Bach's organizational system. Additionally, the Musical Offering is similarly idiomatically a keyboard work.

    • @deboraharmstrong4385
      @deboraharmstrong4385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've played bach for 70 years, and love the 4part harmony and everything else the cello and piano bring out, like gould, a different elemental level. It's like the cantatas.

    • @deboraharmstrong4385
      @deboraharmstrong4385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Has anyone read Bach and the dance of God .it's life enhancing.

    • @Dhruvnater456
      @Dhruvnater456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@deboraharmstrong4385 No, but as a fan of J.S Bach I shall read it

  • @davidleesn
    @davidleesn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    music and mathematics are both 'international languages' par excellence..used to discover, record and explore in creative understanding with these 'handles' from the broad canvas of each of us as individuals ...sub-atomically and atomically ..managing both sub-consciously (which our consciousness is just scratching the surface in understanding, leaving much to creative intuition like the nightly creatively restorative sleep 1/3 of our lives) and our daytime conscious learning to discover the great elegance underpinning with the 4 fundamental energies... the complexities of trillions of billions of electrical interactions within us as individuals to ongoing astronomical happenings that we are only discovering with the latest instruments e.g. James Webb satellite-telescope of past and present that are of similarly vast physically beyond our imagination even ....unknown up to now ...in vastness , violence ( because of its size),elegance only at this safe distance with the tandem of languages and knowledges about things playing catch up to the intuition [= INside-TUITON if only we can be open to it that ☯️ taiji 太極 and the 8 branches of yoga yoked together by vibrations are helping me to glimpse at 🕉].... that Einstein alluded to as mentioned in this talk !!

  • @francescaemc2
    @francescaemc2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    grazie

  • @philippemorvan4142
    @philippemorvan4142 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok then what swing is ?

  • @CGMaat
    @CGMaat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Angles faces - ratio- ALL IN ACCORDANCE - BACH : is the photosynthesis of the MUSIC OF THE SPHERE- LOGOS -bringing the supreme grace to our dodecahedral souls ! Tesla was right -ALL IS VIBRATION! GOLDEN MEASURE- MYSTERIUM COSMOGRAPHICUM - THE 5 ness - octave - solids ..geometry as structure of thought .

  • @fattmusiek5452
    @fattmusiek5452 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bruh

  • @Psalmist6693
    @Psalmist6693 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I play the notes as they are written but it is GOD who makes the music."
    JS Bach
    Don't focus on creation, focus on the creator to whom all his praise was focused. Don't dishonor Bach's memory. SDG Soli Deo Gloria he wrote at the end of all his pieces. Not SCG Soli Cosmos Gloria.

  • @ripvanwinkle1819
    @ripvanwinkle1819 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Theoretical mathematics or whatever is definitely a grift. Regressive thinking

  • @AaronGlenn88
    @AaronGlenn88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nothing special, the piano is laid out like a mirror with chords, you can only move in two dirextions on the piano, up or down (and skips) . Play any chord in retrograde against the other hands direction and you have instant music. Bach was simply amerdexerious. Anyone who claims math in bach is off in the weeds. They don't know how the keyboard works. And they spend years musing when all they should do is take a look at a keyboard 🎹 lol

    • @gazjaz2010
      @gazjaz2010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this must be why your own performance is nothing special

  • @etienne7774
    @etienne7774 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aesthetics do not follow mathematical patterns, the patterns is build into God's creation by God, like golden ration. Mathematics is simply a methoda language to describe these patterns.

  • @etienne7774
    @etienne7774 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jesus Christ simply gave bach this musical gift. That's all. The lake of fire is real, repent, acts 2:38.