Parisian Melodies: Debussy & Ravel | Perspective

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  • In Paris, Simon explores the backdrop to the music of Claude Debussy, before visiting the village of Montfort L'Amaury, where Maurice Ravel lived out the last 16 years of his life.
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  • @zenonorth1193
    @zenonorth1193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    With a different title, I might be less inclined to nitpick about this. Only about half of the video is devoted to Debussy. Of the music by Debussy that was heard as the soundtrack for the video, three of the pieces were written for piano and one for voice and piano. All were heard here in orchestrated versions - most or all of which were not by Debussy. And a slightly larger complaint - I feel that ALL the music in the soundtrack should be identified ON SCREEN while it's being played so that people who don't know the titles but like a particular piece can later track it down. Good intentions and decent writing (almost certainly by non-musicians), and Simon Callow is a treasure but as a video about the "rebellious spirit of Debussy" I can only give it a passing grade.
    And yes, I know that I'm a pompous pedant.

    • @grantsmythe8625
      @grantsmythe8625 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, at least you can admit it.

    • @olewetdog6254
      @olewetdog6254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think the host of this show pretty much defines pompous. You're not even close. 🤣

    • @WhirledPublishing
      @WhirledPublishing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A world without truth is a realm of demons.

    • @ClasesDeGuitarraCL
      @ClasesDeGuitarraCL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sad but true.

    • @markdarnell614
      @markdarnell614 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree! Not that you’re pompous, at all… the Debussy music chosen was far from rebellious. The 2nd book of piano preludes, Jeux, and the Violin, and Cello Sonatas - definitely! …also the incidental music for Bilitis- aka Antique Epigraphs was remarkable! Program did better with Ravel. Mother Goose Suite is Terrific!

  • @lorigoshert6667
    @lorigoshert6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One of the best series on TH-cam! Thanks for this. I've enjoyed them all so far and am looking forward to the next ones.

  • @claudettedelphis6476
    @claudettedelphis6476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you so much for starting our new year with absolute musical beauty 💐🌸🌺

  • @heidimiller642
    @heidimiller642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a very delightful and useful video. I loved every minute of it. Simon Callow is wonderful, funny full of useful information and gorgeous. Good job, everyone.

  • @Akiro369
    @Akiro369 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent presentation !

  • @DonnaSnyder
    @DonnaSnyder 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is supposed to be about Debussy but it's just a travelogue for Paris.

    • @jeff__w
      @jeff__w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Information about Claude Debussy starts at about 8:41.

    • @thesolitarycyclist9005
      @thesolitarycyclist9005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is called "Classical Destinations " for a reason.

    • @syater
      @syater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is fluff. The video, not the music. What mainly comes across is that Paris is jammed with cars.

  • @heidimiller642
    @heidimiller642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I know I'm supposed to like the more traditional classical composers, and of course I do like them most of the time. My favorite is Debussy. I don't know why. I don't know enough music theory to explain why I like him. He's been accused of being an impressionist, with nothing serious to say. I don't agree. I love the way he layers chords on top of each other. In fact, to me, this sounds French, because French fashion, food and art does exactly the same thing. Thank you for making this video.

    • @zenonorth1193
      @zenonorth1193 ปีที่แล้ว

      You like who and what you like! There's no "supposed to" about it. And believe me when I tell you that REAL classical musicians would tell you that if you happen not to like Bach, Beethoven or any other big name, there's nothing wrong with that! Part of the beauty of art: being able to make one's own judgements about it and not having to adopt other people's.

  • @eddiebeato5546
    @eddiebeato5546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the same of the lengthy introduction, and it seems that the narrator would like to magnify the narrative effects by such contrivances, but it can test our expectation (our wits) which, with some endurance (add the intrusive ads and other distractions), we may finally arrive at the gist of the subject-matter in hand. Nevertheless, for the more patient and cultured, it is worth the efforts.
    It is not easy to say whether a short video, taking such goodly swath of introductory embellishments, could enhance the desired effects, which is to capture the viewer’s attention from the outset?
    That said, one is bound to admit that these documentaries, despite the narrator’s fondness for an architectural backlog of informations and history, are highly recommended and even of the highest rank. One could say that is natural to the British people, with their distinct accent, to win our admiration as the quintessence or epitome of intellectualism and refined culture.

  • @Earth098
    @Earth098 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks a lot for uploading this series!!

  • @djtrendsetta5766
    @djtrendsetta5766 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Debussy once commented, 'Music is the silence between the notes'."
    Thankfully, Miles and Thelonious were paying attention.

  • @Jimyblues
    @Jimyblues ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful… but too short, pls make 60 min. Videos - they’re too good !

  • @oldschool8798
    @oldschool8798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know of documentaries on Debussy and Ravel? They deserve at least two hours each.

  • @e8ghtmileshigh1
    @e8ghtmileshigh1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What string quartet / movement is the Australian chamber Orchestra playing?

  • @IRosamelia
    @IRosamelia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pelleas et Melisande is so beautiful!

  • @kalelake3067
    @kalelake3067 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good; well done..

  • @arakrune
    @arakrune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this series would be better is 1. the lead in wasnt so damned loud 3. if the build up was not almosdt a full 2 minutes of the same thing of each subset of the series

    • @Bow503
      @Bow503 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree, music to loud, it hurts. And the overdue history of the city is unnecessary here.

  • @billybussey
    @billybussey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love to post this on every Debussy video I see but he’s a not so distant relative of mine. We even look a bit alike.

    • @nasirferguson4098
      @nasirferguson4098 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re related to him?

    • @billybussey
      @billybussey ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nasirferguson4098 Yes. I don't know how much exactly but my family name was changed from DeBussy to Bussey when we came to America in the 1800s. My grandma told me about it when I was little and I had no idea who Claude was.

    • @nasirferguson4098
      @nasirferguson4098 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billybussey oh, well maybe you are of the bloodline of him! That would be so cool. In the family I’m polish and French, it’s rumored one of my great grandmothers (I’m not sure how many greats) was a friend and student of Chopin

    • @billybussey
      @billybussey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@nasirferguson4098 Very cool. I am in Poland right now.

    • @nasirferguson4098
      @nasirferguson4098 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billybussey I wish I could go lol

  • @bennypaulos2801
    @bennypaulos2801 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's nice !!, but can you do about erik satie ?

  • @heidimiller642
    @heidimiller642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am concerned. Mr. Callow appears to be suffering from an attack by radio-busters. His stillted words betray the attack. When I heard the sounds from an attack on our American cellphone towers, it sounds exactly the same: pulses of sound, interrupted repeatedly in short bursts. Please rest a while, everyone. We still have at least 24 hours of the rest period from the twelve days of Christmas.

    • @randyramos6979
      @randyramos6979 ปีที่แล้ว

      So annoying. Even the subtitles cant keep up. Debussy's music became WC's music...

  • @MrDelvoye
    @MrDelvoye 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    talking about this period without mentioning G. Sati is incomplete

  • @pawelec66
    @pawelec66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where is Waldek?

    • @sschmidtevalue
      @sschmidtevalue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Assuming you mean Waldemar, the art presenter. This channel features several presenters on several subjects.

  • @emsnewssupkis6453
    @emsnewssupkis6453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They show the intact Notre Dame, not the destroyed church. And the music isn't Debussy?

  • @ande100
    @ande100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what is this sweet orchestral piece to start us iff? Violin and joy? why are non of the pieces mentioned? please gelo" dear friends! Thank You in advance. the violin piece comes back at the mentioning of Notre Dame

    • @jacobscardino4330
      @jacobscardino4330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I second poppy blossoms, that melody is very heartwarming, please tell us what the song and composer is?

    • @thesolitarycyclist9005
      @thesolitarycyclist9005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They're just a few bars knocked together for the programme. Once you've heard it a few times believe me you will hit the FF button every time!

    • @jacobscardino4330
      @jacobscardino4330 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thesolitarycyclist9005 to each his own.

    • @thesolitarycyclist9005
      @thesolitarycyclist9005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobscardino4330 it's not a "song" It's a jingle composed for the programme. There's literally no more than the bars you hear over and over and over again. Play it in SoundHound if you want proof!

    • @jacobscardino4330
      @jacobscardino4330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thesolitarycyclist9005 okay, I see what this is. Judging by the 3 redacted comments that have shown up in my notifications, you appear to be a guy looking for a heated back and forth with someone in the TH-cam comments, I won’t give it to you. I’ll just leave it at this: “WOW, it’d sure be nice if somebody knew the name of the mediocre composer that composed this stupid infantile jingle heard at the beginning of this TH-cam documentary, because even though it’s so bland and boring and not up to the Cotswold cyclists standard of excellence, I happen to really dig it in it’s stupid simplicity.” Have a nice day chap!

  • @sebastianmelmoth685
    @sebastianmelmoth685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What an obnoxious advert intro - good grief! Fortunately the docu MORE than made up for it.

    • @LindaCasey
      @LindaCasey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suppose they have to make their money somehow .. but I agree about the documentary .. bravo

    • @sebastianmelmoth685
      @sebastianmelmoth685 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@LindaCasey true - but my poor old ticker! I saw the title "Debussy" so I was lulled into a false sense of security, then... WHAM!

    • @LindaCasey
      @LindaCasey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sebastianmelmoth685 🤣

    • @emsnewssupkis6453
      @emsnewssupkis6453 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard Jefferson Airplane perform at the Fillmore In SF back in the wild hippie days of ancient lore. We were all rather stoned, of course, it was hypnotic and fun...

    • @syater
      @syater 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emsnewssupkis6453 Hahaha! Was Claude Debussy their piano player? Or did you just lose track of where you were posting a comment?

  • @voraciousreader3341
    @voraciousreader3341 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lightweight.

  • @cherylforfang8671
    @cherylforfang8671 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Disappointing. I wanted to learn about Claude de Bussey!

    • @sschmidtevalue
      @sschmidtevalue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You evidently didn't wait long enough. Debussey starts getting discussed about 1/3 way into it.

  • @johneyon5257
    @johneyon5257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Debussy's story doesn't start until 8:40 - the first part contains a rambling homage to Paris - there was nothing new

    • @eddiebeato5546
      @eddiebeato5546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought the same of the lengthy introduction, and it seems that the narrator would like to magnify the narrative effects by such contrivances, but it can test our expectation (our wits) which, with some endurance (add the intrusive ads and other distractions), we may finally arrive at the gist of the subject-matter in hand. Nevertheless, for the more patient and cultured, it is worth the efforts.
      It is not easy to say whether a short video, taking such goodly swath of introductory embellishments, could enhance the desired effects, which is to capture the viewer’s attention from the outset?
      That said, one is bound to admit that these documentaries, despite the narrator’s fondness for an architectural backlog of informations and history, are highly recommended and even of the highest rank. One could said that is natural to the British people, with their distinct accent, to win our admiration as the quintessence or epitome of intellectualism and refined culture.

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rambling is a good description of your post - plus highly pretentious - but that's your prerogative - and - no - when simon finally got around to debussy - he had nothing but babble - and a dreary sampling of his music - i gave the video.a thumbs down

    • @zenonorth1193
      @zenonorth1193 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johneyon5257 Ummm, let's recognize that Simon Callow is an ACTOR - not a musician. He's reading a script which he didn't write, and he's undoubtedly receiving at least some direction about the delivery of the script. He's just doing a job. The fault lies with the writing.

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zenonorth1193 - wow - you really didn't understand my comments did you - when i called the narrative rambling - i'm talking about the content (ie the script) - i'm not talking about Callow's delivery

    • @zenonorth1193
      @zenonorth1193 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johneyon5257 I think maybe I clicked the wrong "reply"....By the time I sent that comment I had read so many comments that assumed that Callow was apparently spontaneously holding forth on the subject that I had allowed myself to get in a "YT Comment Rage Fugue" - Ok, I just made that shit up. Anyway, I'm old enough, I should know it don't amount to a hill of beans. Re-reading your comments, I clearly see that you weren't accusing Callow of being the writer of the episode. So, I apologize for sending my "recreational outrage" in the wrong direction.

  • @kennylong7281
    @kennylong7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can we not correctly say "Eifel" ? ? ?

  • @thomasjamison2050
    @thomasjamison2050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is so very important that music critics sound so very posh. Just so, so important.

    • @heidimiller642
      @heidimiller642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What else should they sound like? Would you prefer Pee Wee Herman? Johnny Cash? Vincent Price? Peter Lorre? How about Betty Boop? Carrol Channing? Or you could have Mae West? Mr. Callow sounds just fine.

    • @thomasjamison2050
      @thomasjamison2050 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heidimiller642 Anyone without a wanky posy accent. Almost anyone on DW news would be wonderful. Most people on the BBC would be a significant improvement. I don't see the point of sounding like a really annoying snobby social climber. After all, there's nothing wrong with the music. Why screw up the text that way?

    • @zenonorth1193
      @zenonorth1193 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@heidimiller642 And how many (damn) times does it have to be said: Simon Callow is an ACTOR. He's not a musician and he's not a music critic. He is reading a script he didn't write and undoubtedly receiving at least SOME direction on how he should deliver the script.

  • @zintosion
    @zintosion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always finish on the Bach never in Debussy

  • @JANXDPDX
    @JANXDPDX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Debussy?....misleading title

  • @tonyman2c
    @tonyman2c 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on. Debussy was famous for for his piano work not violin!

  • @parzival8331
    @parzival8331 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its crazy you can make a 20 minute video and provide little to no information, this is why TV died.

  • @dvpMay
    @dvpMay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    m

  • @cunite9263
    @cunite9263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The narrator seems to emphasize more about the place rather than the composer...

    • @zenonorth1193
      @zenonorth1193 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not the narrator. The writer(s). The narrator is an actor doing a job.

  • @ElcoCanon
    @ElcoCanon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very weak episode. Long boring intro about Paris. Not enough information about Debussy himself. All these claims made about him or his music but never explained in depth why or how. Annoying host, how to say little with much words.

  • @michaelrg3836
    @michaelrg3836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a cheesy introductionary piece of "muzak" for a series about the great composers. Debussy must be spinning in his grave!
    PS: get Waldemar rather to narrate!!

    • @lorigoshert6667
      @lorigoshert6667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like this guy much better than Waldemar.