Choosing a background so far behind is bonkers. You could have an f4 and see little difference. The 50mm f1.2S is an amazing lens. So is the 1.8S. But they produce very different portrait results in the conditions where one would reach for the 1.2S. The size and cost are the downsides and the 1.8S will be perfect in many cases.....but c'mon, if you want to make a comparison, show the conditions where you would actually see the difference.....full body shots or half-body shots (not headshots) with some not so distant background.
I have both and use them for different reasons. For work events I will use the 50mm 1.2 on the Z8. I'm almost 70 and I don't have a problem with using it for about a 6 hour period. I eat my spinach. The 1.8 is excellent also and if I am going all day, i.e. 15 hours, I'll go with the 1.8. Non-photographers seem to notice how pleasing the prints of the 1.2 look, especially at 1.2 or 1.3 or 1.4. They have not seen anything that looks like the prints at 1.2. It's the rendition that different from the 1.8. It is subtle, but they notice.
Voigtländer Nokton 58mm f1.4 is actually 1.2 because it overexposes if you don't correct the exposure by -0.7 or -1. It's a superior lens when adapted via FTZ adapter. Yes, it's manual focus but it renders beautifully like no other lens. I use it together with the Z 50 f1.8 S, which is a phenomenal lens. They both actually cost the same, happy shooting 👍
1.8S lens are crazy good. The Nikon Z actually got me to stay with Nikon when I compared a Canon R5 with 85 1.2 vs Nikon Z6 85 1.8S. Is the Canon 3x better (price)? No and to the untrained eye they won't notice a 1.8 vs 1.2 shot...I kept the Nikon and kept me on the Nikon side of the fence. I'm glad I did as now I've move on to Nikon Z9, Z6III and Z lenses :) pretty happy with Nikon, and love the 1.8S line lenses, will be getting the Plena 1.8S as my baby 200 f/2 replacement :)
In my opinion f1.8 is definitively not enough, but the Nikon 50mm f1.2 is huge, (front) heavy and has a slow and loud autofocus. So knowing both lenses, I'd also pick the f1.8. However on my Sony system (A7rV and 50mm f1.2GM) I'd always choose the 50mm f1.2 GM because the Sony lens is small, relatively lightweight and has an instant, completely silent autofocus. And yes, if you take full body shots, you see a lot of difference between f1.2 and f1.8.
As a Sony user, I borrowed a Nikon Z8 and the Nikon 50mm f1.2 for a week to compare them with my Sony A7rV and the 50mm f1.2 GM. Visually, I don't see much difference. Both lenses are great (sharpness, bokeh)! However, compared to the 50mm f1.2 GM, the Nikon 50mm f1.2 is huge, heavy and has a slow and loud autofocus. The weight difference of the camera-lens combination is around 500g (Sony around 1.5kg and Nikon around a little more than 2kg). So if you ask me, I won't be buying the Nikon 50mm f1.2 anytime soon.
@@skurt2752 Not true. Now I own the Z8 and an A7rV and every word I wrote above is absolutely true. And yes, I bought the Nikon 85mm f1.2 S, because it's an amazing lens and no, I still use the Nikon 50mm f1.8 S because I don't like the 50mm f1.2 S after trying it. You are just a desperate Nikon fanboy who cannot admit that Nikon has made a not so great 50mm f1.2 S.
Good review, it's a very specialised lens - I wouldn't want one. I still love my old AFS 50mm f/1.8, but it's a bit big with the ftz adaptor, so I just got a super small and cheap Viltrox 40mm f/2.5 (180g!) and love it for casual shooting when I'm walking my dogs or going to the store when I don't want to carry a big lump around my neck. I find 40mm really nice - a bit more breathing room than a 50, but still a similar look.
It isn't about performance and a slightly narrower DOF. Some people can't see or don't know the difference or what a lens like the 1.2 is about. They should certainly just buy the 1.8 workhorse, it's great. The 1.2 is just about that amazing, special rendering, like the f mount 105 f1.4, the AIS 105 f2.5 and a select few lenses... Difficult to describe really. I have both lenses and the 50 f1.2 is so often on my camera.
I bought the 1.2 a few months ago and it rarely leaves my Z9 camera. The images are simply stunning. More colour, wonderful bokeh, almost magical quality I can't explain. My Z28-70 f2.8 has been in my bag ever since. Plus using a 50mm fixed focal has made me think about composition and brought the joy back to my photography. It's worth the expense.... go for it.
I appreciate this video but I would have liked more photos and image quality compares rather than so much talk for half the video on the sizing and weight which I already knew. And comparing to zooms seems pointless. That all basic stuff. Again I’m not trying to be rude but there was so much talk rather than a lot of visual comparisons and quality at various f stops and corner quality etc .
Thank you so much for your feedback! I’ll definitely add more images and comparisons in future videos when I can. To be honest, I wanted to take a slightly different approach with this review. There are already so many great channels that focus on test charts and technical details, and they do it far better than I ever could! So, I decided to share my experience with this lens during a real photoshoot (which I have uploaded on my channel on a different video) to give a more practical perspective. I hope that approach added some value for you!
I don’t want to make you feel bad at all. There was just a lot of talk at the start about size and weight which went on a bit. I would have loved to see your thoughts even from a real world point of view at both wide open and both at the same f stop to say 5.6. To see the clarity in the middle and corners. Again I genuinely value you doing this as I’m in the market for one and I just really didn’t get much from this. I don’t think you need to be too scientific just even approach it from a real world point of view and zoom in on edges and Center to see your feeling and show us. I really felt half this video was just a talk about why you would buy one or not but it was all based on weight and size and wrist strain. Again appreciate you listening and I wish you all the very best.
I have Z8 not big deal for me and just like 1 week ago bought 24-70mm 2.8 f and with micro lens 105mm even better in next 3 months will add 85mm 1.2 F Will not have regret love Nikon
That extra stop of light when shooting low light can make a big difference though
Choosing a background so far behind is bonkers. You could have an f4 and see little difference. The 50mm f1.2S is an amazing lens. So is the 1.8S. But they produce very different portrait results in the conditions where one would reach for the 1.2S. The size and cost are the downsides and the 1.8S will be perfect in many cases.....but c'mon, if you want to make a comparison, show the conditions where you would actually see the difference.....full body shots or half-body shots (not headshots) with some not so distant background.
There’s a reason why TH-camrs exist. They aren’t really great at photography. Real pros don’t have time for this
Been using the 50 1.2 for years. I don't even remotely regret this purchase.
I have both and use them for different reasons. For work events I will use the 50mm 1.2 on the Z8. I'm almost 70 and I don't have a problem with using it for about a 6 hour period. I eat my spinach. The 1.8 is excellent also and if I am going all day, i.e. 15 hours, I'll go with the 1.8. Non-photographers seem to notice how pleasing the prints of the 1.2 look, especially at 1.2 or 1.3 or 1.4. They have not seen anything that looks like the prints at 1.2. It's the rendition that different from the 1.8. It is subtle, but they notice.
Very well thought out! Thank you 😊
I bought the 85 1.2 and the 135 1.8. decided to go for the 50 1.8
Voigtländer Nokton 58mm f1.4 is actually 1.2 because it overexposes if you don't correct the exposure by -0.7 or -1. It's a superior lens when adapted via FTZ adapter. Yes, it's manual focus but it renders beautifully like no other lens. I use it together with the Z 50 f1.8 S, which is a phenomenal lens. They both actually cost the same, happy shooting 👍
💯 it's crazy how many are still asleep on the Voigtländer.
Thanks for the awesome review
thanks for sharing your thoughts. very helpful information
With that money for 50 f1.2S lens, I would buy 35 f1.4, 85 f1.8S & 20 f1.8S.
1.8S lens are crazy good. The Nikon Z actually got me to stay with Nikon when I compared a Canon R5 with 85 1.2 vs Nikon Z6 85 1.8S. Is the Canon 3x better (price)? No and to the untrained eye they won't notice a 1.8 vs 1.2 shot...I kept the Nikon and kept me on the Nikon side of the fence. I'm glad I did as now I've move on to Nikon Z9, Z6III and Z lenses :) pretty happy with Nikon, and love the 1.8S line lenses, will be getting the Plena 1.8S as my baby 200 f/2 replacement :)
3:06 love this video but you did her dirty right here 😂
Very good comparison.
I also have the 50 1.2 85 1.2 and 135 1.8 and the 50 1.2 is the one I use the least, I agree with you that the 1.8 is more than enough
In my opinion f1.8 is definitively not enough, but the Nikon 50mm f1.2 is huge, (front) heavy and has a slow and loud autofocus. So knowing both lenses, I'd also pick the f1.8.
However on my Sony system (A7rV and 50mm f1.2GM) I'd always choose the 50mm f1.2 GM because the Sony lens is small, relatively lightweight and has an instant, completely silent autofocus. And yes, if you take full body shots, you see a lot of difference between f1.2 and f1.8.
the 50 1.8s is so over engineered for the price it's crazy.
As a Sony user, I borrowed a Nikon Z8 and the Nikon 50mm f1.2 for a week to compare them with my Sony A7rV and the 50mm f1.2 GM. Visually, I don't see much difference. Both lenses are great (sharpness, bokeh)! However, compared to the 50mm f1.2 GM, the Nikon 50mm f1.2 is huge, heavy and has a slow and loud autofocus. The weight difference of the camera-lens combination is around 500g (Sony around 1.5kg and Nikon around a little more than 2kg). So if you ask me, I won't be buying the Nikon 50mm f1.2 anytime soon.
😂😂😂 The Nikon has faster motors and silent motors. Legit nothing can compare to it. You’re just a Sony fan boy. Quit lying to people
@@skurt2752 Not true. Now I own the Z8 and an A7rV and every word I wrote above is absolutely true. And yes, I bought the Nikon 85mm f1.2 S, because it's an amazing lens and no, I still use the Nikon 50mm f1.8 S because I don't like the 50mm f1.2 S after trying it. You are just a desperate Nikon fanboy who cannot admit that Nikon has made a not so great 50mm f1.2 S.
@@stefan_beckerI don’t believe you 😂
@@soyluisvalenzuela Do you want me to send you a link to picture with that equipment?
Almost no DOF at f1.2 for head portraits.
Good review, it's a very specialised lens - I wouldn't want one. I still love my old AFS 50mm f/1.8, but it's a bit big with the ftz adaptor, so I just got a super small and cheap Viltrox 40mm f/2.5 (180g!) and love it for casual shooting when I'm walking my dogs or going to the store when I don't want to carry a big lump around my neck. I find 40mm really nice - a bit more breathing room than a 50, but still a similar look.
It isn't about performance and a slightly narrower DOF. Some people can't see or don't know the difference or what a lens like the 1.2 is about. They should certainly just buy the 1.8 workhorse, it's great. The 1.2 is just about that amazing, special rendering, like the f mount 105 f1.4, the AIS 105 f2.5 and a select few lenses... Difficult to describe really. I have both lenses and the 50 f1.2 is so often on my camera.
I bought the 1.2 a few months ago and it rarely leaves my Z9 camera. The images are simply stunning. More colour, wonderful bokeh, almost magical quality I can't explain. My Z28-70 f2.8 has been in my bag ever since. Plus using a 50mm fixed focal has made me think about composition and brought the joy back to my photography. It's worth the expense.... go for it.
NICE VIDEO, THAT 1.2 IS JUST WAY TO BIG FOR ME CANT HANDLE IT! WE SHOULD COLLAB!
The size and the horrible design is the reason why I avoided the 1.2
I own both. They are very different tools.
Better optical quality. The 1.8 is an s lens. Give me a break
f/1.4
I appreciate this video but I would have liked more photos and image quality compares rather than so much talk for half the video on the sizing and weight which I already knew. And comparing to zooms seems pointless. That all basic stuff. Again I’m not trying to be rude but there was so much talk rather than a lot of visual comparisons and quality at various f stops and corner quality etc .
Thank you so much for your feedback! I’ll definitely add more images and comparisons in future videos when I can. To be honest, I wanted to take a slightly different approach with this review. There are already so many great channels that focus on test charts and technical details, and they do it far better than I ever could! So, I decided to share my experience with this lens during a real photoshoot (which I have uploaded on my channel on a different video) to give a more practical perspective. I hope that approach added some value for you!
I don’t want to make you feel bad at all. There was just a lot of talk at the start about size and weight which went on a bit. I would have loved to see your thoughts even from a real world point of view at both wide open and both at the same f stop to say 5.6. To see the clarity in the middle and corners.
Again I genuinely value you doing this as I’m in the market for one and I just really didn’t get much from this. I don’t think you need to be too scientific just even approach it from a real world point of view and zoom in on edges and Center to see your feeling and show us. I really felt half this video was just a talk about why you would buy one or not but it was all based on weight and size and wrist strain.
Again appreciate you listening and I wish you all the very best.
@@theonlyredspecialnow who’s verbose! ;-)
I have Z8 not big deal for me and just like 1 week ago bought 24-70mm 2.8 f and with micro lens 105mm even better in next 3 months will add 85mm 1.2 F
Will not have regret love Nikon
Dang. I was going to praise this video, but then I saw you switched. Tsk-tsk.
The photos taken by 1.8S look boring , it is just too sharp.