The 779x will eventually get certified and it will begin to sell well. I also think EK will cause the 10x to become a reality. As for B6, the moment NK folds, they will buy them.
@@nickolliver3021 If it was Turkish, 10 x 777X would not be headline, but "massive 787 order" would be. Because they will definitely order lots of 787s. I expect 75+ units. I don't think they will order 777X yet.
@@user-yt198 There is a strong feeling it was Turkish that did order 20 a week or so ago but yes they will order a good bunch of 787s I expect the -10 at some point
@@nickolliver3021 For the records, my guesstimate for TK order (Firm / option); MAX: 100 / 50 787: 50 / 25 777X: 0 / 10 777X order will become firm only after it was flown by other carriers for a few years, but price to be fixed now. TK does not normally order a new aircraft type until it is proven in regular use. However Boeing critically needs such a motivating order and they will do anything to extend the size of the order in total.
I hope Boeing gets back on the map with this beautiful airplane. With all the major troubles that occurred within the company, they haven't been able to certify the 777-9X. It will be a long awaited treat for the airlines once it gets certified and then of course, for Boeing to somewhat get back on course with a new and determined set of management people.
Boeing 777 x order by Korea Airlines ? Sounds like desperation as they cant receive new airbus aircraft for up to ten years due to waiting lists. Difficult to know if boeing will be broken up before then or their manufacturing plant will close down; due to the 737 max scrap page scheme. Perhaps boeing will restart the 747 NEO and 757 NEO which will be offered to 737 customers at the end of the 737 max manufacture this year?
Yes and no. KA doesn't need the US approval for the merger if they are merely a local korean airline. However because the US destinations accounts for a large portion of their business, they may potentially lose their licence to operate to US destinations if they don't get the US approval on the merger. Same applies to Europe & China as well for KA. There are other examples of how US made use of this to entice airlines to purchase boeing's aircraft. This is also the reason why major airlines outside EU & US such as SQ, CX, EK, QA cannot operate just one type of fleet. They must buy from both Airbus AND Boeing.
Here in Boston we count on Jet Blue, or in the past I guess. I doubt your typical passenger could begin to explain why the government turned down the merger with Spirit Airlines. And then the failed merger penalty of 500 million!! Tell me the advantages of a highly consolidated market that is also highly competitive
@@agrazon all designed and yet uncertified by the same company that did the 737MAX crashes, improperly constructed 737s, numerous 787s and 737s in shadow factories to fix initial assembly line defects and is losing money on the KC-46 (late/over budget), T-7 (late/over budget), and the new AF1 (late/over budget).
Neither one is better or worse than the other. In the past, many analysts concluded that both the B777-9 and A350-1000 will consume the same amount of fuel per trip on the same transpacific flight. It will be a fine line that will differentiate them apart. The only variable is what can be fitted inside. The B777-9 has more seats and bigger cargo volume but the A350-1000 has higher weight margin. If you have dense and heavy cargo to carry, the volumes will be useless. But if you have extra passengers, you'll need to drop the cargo. So what should the airline choose? The airline's decision will determine which aircraft suits them better.
Korean is just shopping around. Just saw an analyst piece that A350 payload/range is now better than the "X" It was behind a paywall but if you carry cargo as well the "X" might not bring must to the table
@@martinavery3979yeah. In the past, many analysts concluded that both the B777-9 and A350-1000 will consume the same amount of fuel per trip on the same 4000NM flight. It will be a fine line that will differentiate them apart. The only variable is what can be fitted inside. The B777-9 has more seats and bigger cargo volume but the A350-1000 has higher weight margin. If you have dense and heavy cargo, the volumes will be useless. But if you have extra passengers, you'll need to drop the cargo. So what should the airline choose?
Yeah, many people are not aware that A350 is 2 tonnes lighter than it was pre-2019. That is significant to many airlines. Most comparisons were possibly made before the improvements.
The 777-9X has outsold the a380 & will continue to gain momentum. Regardless of what the Boeing haters want or think about it. P.S. We don’t care if you’re not going Boeing. It is trite and boring already. :-)
Dude, its a plane company, relax. Weird to see people white knight for a multi-billion company. Especially when there are legit things of concern about them at this time.
@@Fenrir_666 There are many concerns about airbus too. But he does have a point. I do agree on what he says about the Boeing haters or Airbus fanboys. They truly suck and get likes for acting 2 year olds
It seems a little disingenuous to be taking orders for an aircraft that keeps getting pushed out further and further. I don’t hear a realistic release date being talked about. I think it would be a successful aircraft, but when? 2026 maybe?
JB wants to return to profitability da! But they are not a good airline that was trying to buy another bad airline (Spirit Frontier) mainly because they can’t keep their buses in the air 🤷♂️
As a dispatcher for JetBlue, I try my absolute best to save fuel when possible because at the end of the want the total cost of fuel used is crazy and there's definitely room for improvement
777-3 +20 years not because they are not up to date...its because its one hell of an aircraft that have seen airbus design aircraft programs come and go....Good for Boeing
I hope maybe United one day can order a few to replace current 777-200
Airlines want the 777X. They just don't want to commit until they know that certification is finally coming.
yep hope it come soon
The 777x is going to be one heck of a seller if Boeing has found its way again. Let’s hope so!
Yes 👍
Unfortunately Boeing is on the backfoot and has a lot of ground to catch up
The 779x will eventually get certified and it will begin to sell well. I also think EK will cause the 10x to become a reality. As for B6, the moment NK folds, they will buy them.
They don’t have the finances for that anymore.
Boeing killed the second whistle blower btw
Some carrier ordered 20 last month...more than likely Korean!!
Turkish is more the one actually
@@nickolliver3021 If it was Turkish, 10 x 777X would not be headline, but "massive 787 order" would be. Because they will definitely order lots of 787s. I expect 75+ units. I don't think they will order 777X yet.
@@user-yt198 There is a strong feeling it was Turkish that did order 20 a week or so ago but yes they will order a good bunch of 787s I expect the -10 at some point
@@nickolliver3021 For the records, my guesstimate for TK order (Firm / option);
MAX: 100 / 50
787: 50 / 25
777X: 0 / 10
777X order will become firm only after it was flown by other carriers for a few years, but price to be fixed now.
TK does not normally order a new aircraft type until it is proven in regular use. However Boeing critically needs such a motivating order and they will do anything to extend the size of the order in total.
Yay more Airlines wants the 777X 🥳👏😁
Thanks for the video!!❤🛩️✈️🛫🚁
Thank you dj!!
I hope Boeing gets back on the map with this beautiful airplane. With all the major troubles that occurred within the company, they haven't been able to certify the 777-9X. It will be a long awaited treat for the airlines once it gets certified and then of course, for Boeing to somewhat get back on course with a new and determined set of management people.
I’m glad to see some people still have some trust in Boeing 👍
obvious bots lmao
babe wake up a new DJ Aviation video just dropped!!
KA probably waiting to see how Boeing review impacts order times
But how much commanality is there between the 777 and the 777X? Do they just look similar?
Boeing 777 x order by Korea Airlines ? Sounds like desperation as they cant receive new airbus aircraft for up to ten years due to waiting lists. Difficult to know if boeing will be broken up before then or their manufacturing plant will close down; due to the 737 max scrap page scheme.
Perhaps boeing will restart the 747 NEO and 757 NEO which will be offered to 737 customers at the end of the 737 max manufacture this year?
quick question, why do the US have a say in an airline merger in a different continent? Just curious. any explanation will be greatly appreciated
Yes and no. KA doesn't need the US approval for the merger if they are merely a local korean airline. However because the US destinations accounts for a large portion of their business, they may potentially lose their licence to operate to US destinations if they don't get the US approval on the merger. Same applies to Europe & China as well for KA.
There are other examples of how US made use of this to entice airlines to purchase boeing's aircraft.
This is also the reason why major airlines outside EU & US such as SQ, CX, EK, QA cannot operate just one type of fleet. They must buy from both Airbus AND Boeing.
@@chingweixion621 I see. thanks for the update. I really appreciate.
I found an app online to book flights without Boeing aircraft.
good idea.
Can you talk about beregional in your next vid its the new flybe 3.0
Here in Boston we count on Jet Blue, or in the past I guess. I doubt your typical passenger could begin to explain why the government turned down the merger with Spirit Airlines. And then the failed merger penalty of 500 million!! Tell me the advantages of a highly consolidated market that is also highly competitive
Like to see how the Chinese air planes and embrarer are getting in Vs airbus/boeing
Is it that there is a trade off for US approval and a B777X order from K.A.?
Yes
I’m your fan 😁
I thought you said major airline...The merger failure will eventually end their business.
Is the A350 - 1000 better than the 777x?
I did a lot of research and learned that 777X is ahead in terms of advancement and technology against A350-1000.
@@agrazon all designed and yet uncertified by the same company that did the 737MAX crashes, improperly constructed 737s, numerous 787s and 737s in shadow factories to fix initial assembly line defects and is losing money on the KC-46 (late/over budget), T-7 (late/over budget), and the new AF1 (late/over budget).
there slightly smaller than the 777 300 but there bigger than the 787 10
Neither one is better or worse than the other. In the past, many analysts concluded that both the B777-9 and A350-1000 will consume the same amount of fuel per trip on the same transpacific flight. It will be a fine line that will differentiate them apart. The only variable is what can be fitted inside. The B777-9 has more seats and bigger cargo volume but the A350-1000 has higher weight margin. If you have dense and heavy cargo to carry, the volumes will be useless. But if you have extra passengers, you'll need to drop the cargo. So what should the airline choose? The airline's decision will determine which aircraft suits them better.
Korean is just shopping around. Just saw an analyst piece that A350 payload/range is now better than the "X" It was behind a paywall but if you carry cargo as well the "X" might not bring must to the table
But it doesn’t have the passenger capacity of the 777-9
@@Blank00That's why I talked about cargo, but most airlines have cargo
@@martinavery3979yeah. In the past, many analysts concluded that both the B777-9 and A350-1000 will consume the same amount of fuel per trip on the same 4000NM flight. It will be a fine line that will differentiate them apart. The only variable is what can be fitted inside. The B777-9 has more seats and bigger cargo volume but the A350-1000 has higher weight margin. If you have dense and heavy cargo, the volumes will be useless. But if you have extra passengers, you'll need to drop the cargo. So what should the airline choose?
Yeah, many people are not aware that A350 is 2 tonnes lighter than it was pre-2019. That is significant to many airlines. Most comparisons were possibly made before the improvements.
Why would the US have a say in a merger in Korea?
If it's a prospective order, how is it a switch back to the 777. Let's hope KE stay's with the a350
Why ?
Ordering 777x doesn’t mean ditching A350
The 777-9X has outsold the a380 & will continue to gain momentum. Regardless of what the Boeing haters want or think about it. P.S. We don’t care if you’re not going Boeing. It is trite and boring already. :-)
Dude, its a plane company, relax. Weird to see people white knight for a multi-billion company. Especially when there are legit things of concern about them at this time.
@@Fenrir_666 There are many concerns about airbus too. But he does have a point. I do agree on what he says about the Boeing haters or Airbus fanboys. They truly suck and get likes for acting 2 year olds
An airline with 300ER will eventually replace it with the 9X.
@@Fenrir_666 You’re the weird one silly!
It seems a little disingenuous to be taking orders for an aircraft that keeps getting pushed out further and further. I don’t hear a realistic release date being talked about. I think it would be a successful aircraft, but when? 2026 maybe?
JB wants to return to profitability da! But they are not a good airline that was trying to buy another bad airline (Spirit Frontier) mainly because they can’t keep their buses in the air 🤷♂️
As a dispatcher for JetBlue, I try my absolute best to save fuel when possible because at the end of the want the total cost of fuel used is crazy and there's definitely room for improvement
777-3 +20 years not because they are not up to date...its because its one hell of an aircraft that have seen airbus design aircraft programs come and go....Good for Boeing
What are you talking about?
@@astir0412 another Airbus employee....cant see the light man
Jet Blue’s decision to leave LGB is the tell that the business model was changing for the worse.
Outrageous $500 million break-up fee, that’s why Jet Blue is having a problem, OUTRAGEOUS
Korean Air is not even a maybe
Air India and ANA is much more interesting news and a clear long term strategy
I see Alaska buying Jet Blue in a few more years
korean air = 대한항공
A merger between JB and Spirit would have been USAir and America West redux. Two losers merging just makes a bigger loser!
how is jetblue losing money.
Another Boeing whitleblower Joshua has been bumped off by Boeing!
if they can wait 10 years,so do it
Boeing biased channel