Here in Chile we've had a rebirth of our railway system, I hope you come when the Santiago-Chillán service relaunches with new electric and diesel-electric bimodal trains
When I was younger this line had 12 services everyday, 24 services total It allways was the fastest service, the publicity in the 70s was "to the beach in 4 hs and a little while" Unfortunately in the 90s all went to decline, and Is not easy to get them recovered un a short time. I'm glad you enjoyed!
Issues of the Thomas Cook Overseas Timetable in the late 1990s in its entry for Argentina, showed 8 to 11 trips each way depending on the day of the week and season of the year. Some trips ran "as required." At least one trip each way was a night time motorrail train with auto carrier cars for passengers to take their cars as an option.
@@centredoorplugsthornton4112 yes and there was a service called "el marplatense" with Budd rolling stock with non stop service un few minutes more than 4 hours
@@luiscarracedo7793 the Budd rolling stock was originally built in 1948 for the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway, for a train named the Chessie from Washington to Cincinnati. It never entered service and most of the cars were sold to other railroads. The cars sold to Argentina were modified with hook and link couplers and buffers and retruckes for 5 foot 6 inch tracks.
Saludos desde Uruguay! You described the Argentinian landscape as vast. That's really a good word to describe it. Argentina always has a feeling of being a very big country-which it is.
Very nice video. I did this journey to Mar del Plata last year. Next May I will take the Expreso Patagónico. Even thought is not that simple to get the tickets it is worth to do it. Thank you for shering our tranis with people form other countries.
What a great trip in South America Train. Token signalling is still common in few parts in Southeast Asia, and yes it requires some bravery from the train staff to deliver and pickup that. Some cars in that train consists are familiar like in my country, first is Luggage Car to store some oversize luggage. But today in my country, luggage car painted with Cargo name, so rail company also received some income from Package. And second is generator car, there are two type of Generator Car in my country, first is the Generator Car is fully occupied the car and the second is they share with Restaurant/Cafe Car.
WoW! i never imagined South America had grand old railroad stations like the stunning structure in Buenos Aires. I didn't even know there were long distance intercity trains south of the border other than El Chepe in Mexico. Thanks for the education.
Argentina once had the world's eighth largest railroad network. At the beginning of the past century Argentina was the second largest economy on Earth, only second to the United States. Now we're just a shit hole, but the infrastructure is still there, someway.
In Malaysia we still use token system from town of Gemas to town of Tumpat. Our token shaped like a key with name of the station in there meanwhile from Padang Besar to Gemas an etcs system are being used while from Gemas to Johor we are upgrading to electrified double track and the signalling will be using etcs as well. In some place the semaphore signal still stand but was decommissioned from use
@Sanjay seems like a ball token to me just like those used by our neighbours in the north, ours is key shaped token, before we use key token we use staff token until around 1940s as the key token machine requires less maintenance
I also saw these tokens in Thailand on the line from Chiang Mai to Bangkok - when i saw it live in 2017 (took a picture), I didn't know what was it, later I googled it haha
Thank you very much for sharing this video. Brings back lots of memories as a kid to travel to Mar Del Plata on some great express trains. As some other subscribers mentioned before, there were huge amounts of trains on this route until the 90's...hopefully they will increase the frequency back.
It is, even for Argentine standards, there is this idea that trains must be dirt cheap in order to be affordable for the masses. Even though I agree with the idea that trains should be more of a service instead of a way to make money, dirt cheap tickets will be harmful to our rail infrastructure in the long run and will reinforce this idea on certain part of our society which thinks that trains are just a waste of state money and the best thing to do is closing them for good
you should make the trip between Belho Horizonte en Minas Gerais , Brazil to Vitoria in th cost atlantic of Brazil a beautiful ride in a very modern train!
For those wondering, mobile phone coverage is spotty or non existent outside city areas and people steal cables to sell the copper inside, so they keep using the token system.
Hi, I live in Chascomús, one of the cities that you visited in your trip, my youth was full of bs as/chascomus train trips! I hope you enjoyed the trip!!!!
Quite happy to see having success, this service. I travelled this route once, before the great demise of Argentinean, trains and also once from the Patagonian Town of Neuquén to Buenos Aires in the fantastic "Pullman" class, also on the General Roca line. Still, I find it terrible to see the state of railroads and rolling stock in 2023. Already the noise is terrible.
I was wondering if you could take this train, and I'm so envious you did! Getting a ticket during the summer is nearly impossible, so much that Trenes Argentinos implemented a mandatory check-in before departure for this season.
Hi Thibault, great video and it looks like you had fun. How did you start drinking mate? One of my uncles is from Argentina and he made some for me. Tastes like a pleasant tasting grass beverage.
Here in Chile we also had CAF 593 trains renamed as TLD (Tren Ligero Diesel) circulating in the Victoria Temuco service, unfortunately they were withdrawn from service in 2021 replaced by modern DMU SFD 300 units manufactured by CRRC. Currently only one unit remains in working order for tourist services the TLD 503
Looks like a very spacious driver's cabin. How many crew are there? 2 or 3? And by the way: did the attendant instruct you what to do in case of decompression?
Hi. Officialy two. The motorman and assistance. But its common to see 3 or excepsionally 4 inside all employes. Its rare to access it, its forbidden to public for secure reasons.
Mobile phone coverage is spotty or non existent outside city areas and people have stolen cables in the area before, so I guess a token is the most practical method.🤷♀️
Ah yes the token system is quite fascinating. I regularly take the Tarka Line here in UK, which goes from Exeter to Barnstaple in Devon, that has this system in place. They tend to stop and the drives leaves the cab to pick something up at a booth here though.
Way back in the 90s and early 2000s when the Mughalsarai-Lucknow section in Uttar Pradesh was non electrified in India the diesel loco pilots used to have this token system. I had seen the whole process while standing on a platform. And this I guess still happens in some parts of India. You should visit our country once. Railway experience isn't complete without the Indian Railway experience.
7:12 They should have refurbished these. 8:43 Noice! 9:09 What? The folks at Trenes should have use the Ternkey System 11:20 I bet they're still singing "Muchachos, ahora nos volvimos a ilusio..." oh, it was taped in 2021.
Token system of signalling is a story of distant past in Indian Railways sir. Indian Railways have marched far ahead now. Over 70% of the tracks are electrified now and 100% is the automation of signalling
@@centredoorplugsthornton4112 That seems to make a lot more sense than Spain building them. From what I've heard, British lenders financed much of the USA rail network.
Why doubts about a Chinese-built locomotive? I know they've made some unreliable trains but most of them have been fine. It's not just CRRC but Bombardier and AnsaldoBreda have made quite a few unreliable trains too.
Argentina 's railways and metro still goes in the English way, by the left The Main lines are in wide gauge 1,676. Metro system and Urquiza line is standard gauge and Belgrano lines is narrow, 1 m gauge
Hola desde Alicante España, lindo tren y locomotora diésel apta para 160km/h,pero a que velocidad circula realmente? y alguien sabría qué pasó con los trenes Talgo Pendular que compraron a España? Trenes de gran calidad, comodidad, etc, un saludo desde España disfruten del tren en su maravilloso país
El máximo que circulan es 120. La gente de Talgo vino para la puesta a punto. Dejaron de usarse por el estado de las vías, la de Mar del Plata está ahora renovada y la de Rosario hecha a nuevo. Leí que con los Talgo quieren poner servicios expresos a Rosario
@@luiscarracedo7793 hola, siii es una idea genial poner a punto los Talgos, y creo que las locomotoras diesel chinas pueden ir a 160km h y las vías en condiciones, claro, saludos desde Alicante
@@julioherrero7093 si, bajar el tiempo de viaje a 3 horas creo que apuntaban, son 350km aproximadamente entre Buenos Aires y Rosario ya que también estaba el proyecto de un Ave entre Buenos Aires, Rosario y Córdoba que son 750 km en total, presentado por Alstom pero que por diversos motivos no se materializó. De esta forma estarían unidas las tres principales ciudades del país
Los Talgo actualmente estan a la espera de respuestos para ponerlas nuevamente en marcha. El resto del material rodante, solo sobreviven algunas 592 y las 319. Gran parte del material rodante comprado a España y Portugal fueron chatarreados/abandonados ya que estaban mas alla de todo arreglo.
16:21 Why are there separate engines for propulsion and power? I thought most locomotive-hauled trains had a single engine for both the propulsion (train movement) and power to the carriages.
Well, it may surprise you that train tickets are too cheap, even for Argentine standards. Which I think it doesn't benefit our infrastructure on the long term. With moderately higher railway fares there would be enough money to rebuild our railway infrastructure to its former glory
Hope one day you can do Mexico's Chihuahua Al Pacifico (known locally as El Chepe) from Chihuahua City to Los Mochis. Straight through the Sierra Madre mountains.
@@samtrak1204 it is. It's been about 30 years since I've been and I haven't had a chance to ride El Chepe. But I did see one of the stations on the edge of the canyon and it is spectacular
I discovered you TH-cam channel, what I don't understand, why do we have to read instead of you explaining it to us. When reading it distracts from the viewing. Just my opinion. Thanks.
Here in Chile we've had a rebirth of our railway system, I hope you come when the Santiago-Chillán service relaunches with new electric and diesel-electric bimodal trains
Pronounce more of a Renaissance of your railway system.
When I was younger this line had 12 services everyday, 24 services total
It allways was the fastest service, the publicity in the 70s was "to the beach in 4 hs and a little while"
Unfortunately in the 90s all went to decline, and Is not easy to get them recovered un a short time. I'm glad you enjoyed!
Issues of the Thomas Cook Overseas Timetable in the late 1990s in its entry for Argentina, showed 8 to 11 trips each way depending on the day of the week and season of the year. Some trips ran "as required." At least one trip each way was a night time motorrail train with auto carrier cars for passengers to take their cars as an option.
@@centredoorplugsthornton4112 yes and there was a service called "el marplatense" with Budd rolling stock with non stop service un few minutes more than 4 hours
@@luiscarracedo7793 the Budd rolling stock was originally built in 1948 for the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway, for a train named the Chessie from Washington to Cincinnati. It never entered service and most of the cars were sold to other railroads. The cars sold to Argentina were modified with hook and link couplers and buffers and retruckes for 5 foot 6 inch tracks.
Las grandes privatizaciones de los 90 destruyo todo el pais, que triste volver a vivirlo con Milei....
The vibes in the cab are immaculate!
Saludos desde Uruguay! You described the Argentinian landscape as vast. That's really a good word to describe it. Argentina always has a feeling of being a very big country-which it is.
Our landscape and trains spends for your visit . Brothers Uruguayos and brasileros are welcome here. Saludos
As always, great video! I don't know how you did it but getting the crew to let you ride in the cab and tour the generator was priceless, well done.
Argentina certainly looks beautiful and big
Very nice video. I did this journey to Mar del Plata last year. Next May I will take the Expreso Patagónico. Even thought is not that simple to get the tickets it is worth to do it. Thank you for shering our tranis with people form other countries.
What a great trip in South America Train. Token signalling is still common in few parts in Southeast Asia, and yes it requires some bravery from the train staff to deliver and pickup that. Some cars in that train consists are familiar like in my country, first is Luggage Car to store some oversize luggage. But today in my country, luggage car painted with Cargo name, so rail company also received some income from Package. And second is generator car, there are two type of Generator Car in my country, first is the Generator Car is fully occupied the car and the second is they share with Restaurant/Cafe Car.
Dolores station is beautiful!
WoW! i never imagined South America had grand old railroad stations like the stunning structure in Buenos Aires. I didn't even know there were long distance intercity trains south of the border other than El Chepe in Mexico. Thanks for the education.
Argentina once had the world's eighth largest railroad network. At the beginning of the past century Argentina was the second largest economy on Earth, only second to the United States. Now we're just a shit hole, but the infrastructure is still there, someway.
Constitución station, with 16 platforms was the biggest station in the southern hemisphere and Retiro was earlier the biggest station in LatinAmerica
@@alecasosvello we continue in number 8 before we are 5, i guess
@@gallas82 creo que es yanqui y dice que el único tren que conocía al sur de la frontera era el chepe de Mexico
@@alecasosvello The U. S. once had the best passenger rail system in the world, but look at it now
Yes, I agree taking the train is a great way to go to Mar del Plata from BA. Much better than the bus or flying!
Props to the crew! They gave you the Grand Tour!
Estuviste en mi ciudad 😮😮😮😮😮 saludos admiración por tu trabajo
Engine crew really enjoys their job!
Excelente video. Gracias por visitar mi país y mostrar uno de los viajes en tren más usado en el verano.
I like that there are still semaphore signals in use along the tracks.
Say what you want about Trenes Argentinos, but you can't deny that the people working there absolutely love their job
In Malaysia we still use token system from town of Gemas to town of Tumpat. Our token shaped like a key with name of the station in there meanwhile from Padang Besar to Gemas an etcs system are being used while from Gemas to Johor we are upgrading to electrified double track and the signalling will be using etcs as well. In some place the semaphore signal still stand but was decommissioned from use
@Sanjay seems like a ball token to me just like those used by our neighbours in the north, ours is key shaped token, before we use key token we use staff token until around 1940s as the key token machine requires less maintenance
I also saw these tokens in Thailand on the line from Chiang Mai to Bangkok - when i saw it live in 2017 (took a picture), I didn't know what was it, later I googled it haha
I love your videos man, thank you for showing this!
Excelente video che. ¿En cuántos países te dejan viajar en la locomotora? Somos únicos los argentinos.
a mi me dejaron en Espana - en un automotor
En Chile varias veces pude entrar cuando era más joven
Thank you very much for sharing this video. Brings back lots of memories as a kid to travel to Mar Del Plata on some great express trains. As some other subscribers mentioned before, there were huge amounts of trains on this route until the 90's...hopefully they will increase the frequency back.
Thibault, you enjoyed a truly complete train ride this time, with a ride with the crew in the engine cab!
Muito lindo trem argentino
Great ride! Nice scenery! And a ride in the locomotive was perfect!! Thanks Thibault. 😀💚
$10 for 255 miles? damn thats a bargain
It is, even for Argentine standards, there is this idea that trains must be dirt cheap in order to be affordable for the masses. Even though I agree with the idea that trains should be more of a service instead of a way to make money, dirt cheap tickets will be harmful to our rail infrastructure in the long run and will reinforce this idea on certain part of our society which thinks that trains are just a waste of state money and the best thing to do is closing them for good
Token system still use (common) in Thailand in Single Track system but it will be replaced when constructing double track with ETCS Level 1 System
This is a really special video thanks to those amazing people of the crew. Thank you for showing us always beautiful reports❣
you should make the trip between Belho Horizonte en Minas Gerais , Brazil to Vitoria in th cost atlantic of Brazil a beautiful ride in a very modern train!
I did it from Valadares to Vitoria. Amazing landscape!!!
The tocken system also used in east coast line in Malaysia (from Gemas to Tumpat)
Jenis yang kita pakai berbentuk kunci manakala di negara jiran pula berbentuk bola😊
For those wondering, mobile phone coverage is spotty or non existent outside city areas and people steal cables to sell the copper inside, so they keep using the token system.
Hi, I live in Chascomús, one of the cities that you visited in your trip, my youth was full of bs as/chascomus train trips! I hope you enjoyed the trip!!!!
Quite happy to see having success, this service. I travelled this route once, before the great demise of Argentinean, trains and also once from the Patagonian Town of Neuquén to Buenos Aires in the fantastic "Pullman" class, also on the General Roca line.
Still, I find it terrible to see the state of railroads and rolling stock in 2023. Already the noise is terrible.
I was wondering if you could take this train, and I'm so envious you did! Getting a ticket during the summer is nearly impossible, so much that Trenes Argentinos implemented a mandatory check-in before departure for this season.
Pretty cool you got to go up to the cab !😮
and i just flew into Buenos Aries 4 days ago to go to Tucuman. timing. .. very nice video.
Tons of respect for drinking mate on board lol
Token system is mainly used on single track to avoid Headon accidents
Hi Thibault, great video and it looks like you had fun. How did you start drinking mate? One of my uncles is from Argentina and he made some for me. Tastes like a pleasant tasting grass beverage.
Very fascinating video. Lovely scenery.
Très beau voyage, bravo à Thibault dont je suis en train de lire le livre sur 30 trains de nuit en Europe......
Here in Chile we also had CAF 593 trains renamed as TLD (Tren Ligero Diesel) circulating in the Victoria Temuco service, unfortunately they were withdrawn from service in 2021 replaced by modern DMU SFD 300 units manufactured by CRRC. Currently only one unit remains in working order for tourist services the TLD 503
I've never expected to see a "camello" in Argentina.
Tokens was in use im Poznań tram network, may be 2-3 years ago, when building new line. In Poland.
Great trip report
14:10 This is actually a feature found on Chinese trains! I guess since these carriages are Chinese-built they carried over that feature too!
What an experience. You would never get that in US or Europe.
The toilet seat is sky blue: the colour of the railway and of Argentina. 🙂
Nice one 👍.
Been watching this channel for a few months. Awesome informative content!! Have you been to Tunisia? Would love to see their trains and tracks.
Looks like a very spacious driver's cabin. How many crew are there? 2 or 3? And by the way: did the attendant instruct you what to do in case of decompression?
Hi. Officialy two. The motorman and assistance. But its common to see 3 or excepsionally 4 inside all employes. Its rare to access it, its forbidden to public for secure reasons.
Crazy that the token system is still in use! Better that than rely on crappy signals, I guess...
Better until you realize that you can’t go fast
Mobile phone coverage is spotty or non existent outside city areas and people have stolen cables in the area before, so I guess a token is the most practical method.🤷♀️
Since you been in Toronto, it would be awesome if you could review the Union Pearson Express trains lol
This line needs ICE4's asap!
Ah yes the token system is quite fascinating. I regularly take the Tarka Line here in UK, which goes from Exeter to Barnstaple in Devon, that has this system in place. They tend to stop and the drives leaves the cab to pick something up at a booth here though.
Way back in the 90s and early 2000s when the Mughalsarai-Lucknow section in Uttar Pradesh was non electrified in India the diesel loco pilots used to have this token system. I had seen the whole process while standing on a platform. And this I guess still happens in some parts of India. You should visit our country once. Railway experience isn't complete without the Indian Railway experience.
Nice video
Wow.. Pretty look..
LA VIA MAR DEL PLATA TIENE ATS ,TAMBIEN HARPER
Y POR ÚLTIMO PALO STAFF
❤ your channel
From this summer the restaurant its open for dinner and you can travel whit your car in this train whit special ticket
Let me tell you something...
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...I'M FROM BUENOS ARES AND I SAY RIDE 'EM ALL
super train video
The night train to mar del plata doesn't have sleeper car, there is also plugs in the central (table) seats of both classes.
son 5 horas de viajes, que pretendes camarote. Las estupideces que hay que leer.
7:12 They should have refurbished these.
8:43 Noice!
9:09 What? The folks at Trenes should have use the Ternkey System
11:20 I bet they're still singing "Muchachos, ahora nos volvimos a ilusio..." oh, it was taped in 2021.
Did you end up reviewing the CRRC EMUs in Buenos Aires?
Token system of signalling is a story of distant past in Indian Railways sir. Indian Railways have marched far ahead now. Over 70% of the tracks are electrified now and 100% is the automation of signalling
Stop watching godi media. Token system is still used everywhere in India.
Very beautiful country. I have my doubts about a Chinese built locomotive. It seems like the British built Argentina's railroads.
They’re 5 ft 6 in gauge so probably not. Maybe Spain.
@@QuarioQuario54321 The entire broad gauge was constructed by British companies, that's more than 2/3 of the entire rail network.
Most Argentina's railways were built by UK interests, then were nationalized in 1948 by the Peron government.
@@centredoorplugsthornton4112
That seems to make a lot more sense than Spain building them. From what I've heard, British lenders financed much of the USA rail network.
Why doubts about a Chinese-built locomotive? I know they've made some unreliable trains but most of them have been fine. It's not just CRRC but Bombardier and AnsaldoBreda have made quite a few unreliable trains too.
You could please come to Nigeria we've got so much improvement on our trains recently and more are still been built come ride our trains too please
Nice video but you didn't tell us which of the many Argentinian track gauges it runs on.
It runs on broad gauge, 1676 mm
Argentina 's railways and metro still goes in the English way, by the left
The Main lines are in wide gauge 1,676. Metro system and Urquiza line is standard gauge and Belgrano lines is narrow, 1 m gauge
Hola desde Alicante España, lindo tren y locomotora diésel apta para 160km/h,pero a que velocidad circula realmente? y alguien sabría qué pasó con los trenes Talgo Pendular que compraron a España? Trenes de gran calidad, comodidad, etc, un saludo desde España disfruten del tren en su maravilloso país
El máximo que circulan es 120. La gente de Talgo vino para la puesta a punto. Dejaron de usarse por el estado de las vías, la de Mar del Plata está ahora renovada y la de Rosario hecha a nuevo. Leí que con los Talgo quieren poner servicios expresos a Rosario
@@luiscarracedo7793 hola, siii es una idea genial poner a punto los Talgos, y creo que las locomotoras diesel chinas pueden ir a 160km h y las vías en condiciones, claro, saludos desde Alicante
@@julioherrero7093 si, bajar el tiempo de viaje a 3 horas creo que apuntaban, son 350km aproximadamente entre Buenos Aires y Rosario ya que también estaba el proyecto de un Ave entre Buenos Aires, Rosario y Córdoba que son 750 km en total, presentado por Alstom pero que por diversos motivos no se materializó. De esta forma estarían unidas las tres principales ciudades del país
@@luiscarracedo7793 hola desde Alicante, mejor con Talgo para, la alta velocidad saludos desde Alicante
Los Talgo actualmente estan a la espera de respuestos para ponerlas nuevamente en marcha. El resto del material rodante, solo sobreviven algunas 592 y las 319. Gran parte del material rodante comprado a España y Portugal fueron chatarreados/abandonados ya que estaban mas alla de todo arreglo.
nice one❤❤❤
Make a video on tgv reseau duplex
Why you don't make vedios of Indian trains?
I think you'll have some beautiful moments .
❤ from 🇮🇳
Cool beans!
16:21 Why are there separate engines for propulsion and power? I thought most locomotive-hauled trains had a single engine for both the propulsion (train movement) and power to the carriages.
That's a good question....
Perhaps these locomotives aren't enough?? With the GTs they didn't have it
With it’s inflation rate now at 105.2% that should make rail fares interesting!. 👍🏻🏴
Well, it may surprise you that train tickets are too cheap, even for Argentine standards. Which I think it doesn't benefit our infrastructure on the long term. With moderately higher railway fares there would be enough money to rebuild our railway infrastructure to its former glory
Trenes Argentinos is state owned, they can freeze the prices if they wanted to
This is a Chinese made train we have it in Nigeria here too
Are you riding backwards?? Looks like it to me. Makes me dizzy. Oh riding in the engine is better.
Ride quality and maximum speed?
Este viaje lo hiciste en septiembre del 2022 me parece, porque luego de ese mes termino la obligatoriedad de las mascarillas por el covid
Según su Instagram fue alrededor de Marzo del año pasado
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U must to try indonesian train sir!
you must try... i think
For the token signaling, we had this 10+ years ago
th-cam.com/video/dmfB8JMWENc/w-d-xo.html
Hope one day you can do Mexico's Chihuahua Al Pacifico (known locally as El Chepe) from Chihuahua City to Los Mochis. Straight through the Sierra Madre mountains.
Copper Canyon is awesome!
@@samtrak1204 it is. It's been about 30 years since I've been and I haven't had a chance to ride El Chepe. But I did see one of the stations on the edge of the canyon and it is spectacular
Very dangerous leaning out of the train to grab the token a good way to lose your arm or life!
We did this from a looooooong long time,and i think we never saw an accident from this
train indonesian
Made in China.
Ok and?
Video unclear?
I cannot say "it's fabulous"...very noisy...lack of elegance. Travelling conductor together amaxing!👍🏾
All those face masks!
COVID MASKS??? wtf its 2023!
Not when this video was recorded 😉
Recorded april 2021
Why are people still wearing masks?
March 2021
It was recorded during pandemics restrictions
I discovered you TH-cam channel, what I don't understand, why do we have to read instead of you explaining it to us. When reading it distracts from the viewing. Just my opinion. Thanks.