Some thoughts about scientific method, some reflections on accuracy, and I present my most accurate .22 Magnum Rifle. / usog www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
Having experienced the quality of CZ guns, I can't really justify buying anything else. The prices are reasonable, they're aesthetically appealing and they'll eat any ammo you feed them while functioning flawlessly. You could reasonably argue that they're the Toyota Camry of the gun world.
One thing to note is that the quality of .22 Magnum ammunition over the decades has improved dramatically compared to the one or two brands initially offered.
Yep My chuckster shoots amazing And it’s been treated Rough Was my go to coon hunting rifle for decades It’s all rust pitted and beat to crap But it’s just as accurate now as it was then Great video
Thank you so much for you videos USOG, I watch them all the time. I really appreciate and respect your knowledge and humility. May the Lord bless you even more.
You have a very patient and well reasoned speaking style, my friend. Nice to experience that in this era of verbal carnivals of the ego that we so often have to endure for the sake of simple idea exchange.
Yes, I agree. I didn't quite know what it was, but i found myself just enjoying the way this fellows mind works and the way he expressed himself. I think it's also called "common sense." ....i didn't feel assaulted with words, as i often do feel...
I am an older Aussie shooter. How refreshing to watch a video that is so informative and honest. How easily we are influenced by perhaps well meaning folk who post videos proclaiming a particular firearm is "the best" or "most accurate". Thankyou!
I purchased a slightly used Mossberg chuckster back in the '80s and it's very plain Jane Remington 788 looking. One thing about that gun is that it has a rather long barrel. 24-in I believe. I never looked into the rate of twist on it but I can tell you that I can consistently shoot a string with that gun at 50 yards.
Ive told this before but really u do a great job at these videos !! I learn alot!! I watch alot of many defifferent kinda of videos and u make the most sense, you r honest and understand that each person and gun isnt the one u r shooting ..you arent an ass u tell what u think.. that deserves praise !!! Thank you !!!
Excellent video as usual. I have owned dozens of rifles over the years, some new, some used. But apart from a shot out winchester model 70, they all shot much better than me. Even a cheap new england single shot in .22 hornet was an unbelieveable tackdriver.
As I've commented before on other videos, I especially love your content on "sleeper" models. Finding a $200 gun that outshoots most $1k guns is most satisfying, almost feels like getting away with something! From what I've seen on auction sites, that Chuckster isn't much of a sleeper anymore, with prices much more than a tank or two of gas! Maybe I can sneak up on one in a gun shop someday; I'm a geek for 22 mags! Have you had the opportunity to experience the same accuracy in other 340 calibers, 222 & 22 Hornet? An inexpensive classic Hornet would be a prize! Thanks for your wonderful content!
I'm a bass player, and my joy is to find great instruments that are under $200. When one knows what to look for, you don't need to spend a lot of money.
I was giving an old chuckster from A friend to try out. Can’t wait to take it to the range with a old Simmons 22mag scope that always did me right to see what this rifle is capable of and if I should purchase it from him.
Shoot house sparrows with the 983t. Iron sights. Surprises me every time they fall. It is like ”wow, this thing shoots nice”. And it says north haven on the barrel.
An under appreciated caliber to be sure. I own a Marlin version and with my Weaver fixed 4x dot scope is a head-shot machine for ground squirrels up to 125 yards. Ammo can be relatively expensive, but in my case, the cheapest was the best. it really pays to try different factory offerings before deciding what is best for your rifle. At 1900 fps, it is far superior to the .22LR and is a nitch caliber. This caliber is inherently accurate, but is not a 'plinker' because of the ammo cost. NTL, if you don't currently have one, you should consider it if you haven't already. I like my Marlin's tube magazine because it offers counter balance when loaded, but I am considering a Ruger American because of the threaded muzzle. This is an outstanding caliber for predators in the 125 yard range and below.
Well said the ammo is Alot better than it was 10 years ago I have a savage model 93 and it has a 16.5 inch barrel it will shoot a quarter in group at 50 yds it's really hard to believe but this gun shoots all 22 wmr really well I'm happy also has a Burris rimfire scope it's great
Great video my friend, honest opinion on all firearms no matter the price,make or model. I have a CZ 452 22lr American. I use it for foxes, rabbits out to 100yds + a Great rifle and value for money.
I have a Savage 65 M 22 Magnum bolt action. Highly accurate, good range all factory . It wasn't fired since 1966. It was my Dad's gun. I ordered a couple magazines for it. The original was gone. My mom gave it to me. Dad passed as a young man in 1966. I'm thrilled to have it. It's an awesome gun. Thanks for your honest review. Surprised but not surprised after the performance of the 65 M. Thanks for the video.
Never owned one myself but a shooting buddy of mine told me years ago that his father had only purchased one gun in his life. It was the Mossberg Chuckster and he said you wouldn’t believe how accurate it was. Thanks for story.
I mentioned a Marlin Mod 25 I had for over 25 years. That little $50 rifle shot consistently tighter than a very beautiful and very expensive Browning bolt action 22 LR I have. And I could care less. I really enjoy all 22’s. I think the only thing I prefer on any firearm is wood stocks. Even if it’s very plain. But that wouldn’t and hasn’t stoped me from buy any firearm that I liked. If I could buy every 22 rifle ever made, I would. Like I’ve said before, they are just fun.
Thanks for sharing your experiences with your 22 magnum rifles. I always wondered why the 22 magnum has the same twist ratio as a 22 LR. Most times this is a 1 in 16" of barrel. However the Ruger American Rimfire has a 1 in 14" twist of barrel. It would seem to make more sense to have the 1 in 14" twist for the heavier 22 magnum rounds (40 to 50 grains) and it ought to demonstrate more stability and possibly more accuracy with heavier bullets. I have no experience with the Ruger American 22 Magnum rimfire but it would be interesting to see if favorable results are achieved with heavier bullets with the faster twist ratio that Ruger offers. I can attest that the Browning T-bolt in 22 magnum shoots the Hornady 30 grain V max bullets very well. I've tried a lot of brands of 22 ammo and the V max does everything one would hope it would do - and it has a twist ratio of 1 in 16" ratio. And as you mentioned, every rifle will have a particular round that works well with it and we won't know which one, until we try as many as we can.
I like the T-bolt you have a lot - one of the best out there. As for rate of twist - it may just be me but I have not noticed much or any difference with the .22s - LR or magnum. I guess if someone made a 75 grain .22 rimfire bullet a faster rate of twist might be meaningful; or a 20 grain (haha) .22 Magnum bullet - slower rate of twist might be the way; as it is - things are pretty stable and magnums generally shoot very well. As you write : find the magic brand for your .22 Magnum and you can have one of the most accurate and useful cartridges of all.
Thank you. I appreciate your candid reviews. I don't have a Mossberg but have been open to tying one out for some time. Two of my favorite rimfire rifles are Marlin 22 Mag and 17 HMR rifles. Both have worked out well for me. I think careful break-in and maintenance goes a long way; that and good shooting technique.
Marlins : people have the best things to say about them from experience. Mossbergs are interesting, partly because there were so many different models.
Great video and you’re right on the money about rifle tests. You’re a very intelligent man and I continue to learn from you every time I watch your videos. Not to be nosey, but you sound like an engineer. My dad was an engineer (self-taught) but remarkably capable. You talk about things similarly to how he talked.
I'm humbled by your kind words Kenneth. I studied political science and economics at university and have a corresponding degree. I have no engineering training; yet have studied and read on most subjects out of personal interest for meany years. I like learning. : )
Great video again, I at one time had a Remington 788 in .223 cheap rifle but extremely accurate. I heard Remington dropped it because it was cutting into sales of the model 700.
I also have a moss burg chuckster that I like very much but the dovetail for mounting the scope does not extend very far back on the receiver, therefore mounting the scope is quite a challenge. Any suggestions?
The hair on my neck stood up when you.said Mossberg chuckster lol .I have had a similar experience .I took 6 different. 22 mags and some with new fancy optics .at the end of the day my Mossberg 620 k single shot prevailed .just a accurate classy little rifle . I
The chuckster action is pretty much the same as the 44us mossberg series, I have a 44usb, and I agree with match ammo it can make single hole groups at 100 yards on a good day By the way the 2 holes on the back of the reciever are for the Lyman swing away target peep sight I believe
if youve ever tried out their semi auto budget .22 lrs youd say otherwise, the 715t is a piece of junk, jams every 10th round even after the "break-in" period
LOVE the videos! So low key AND gracious. So many on YT are so declarative and absolute on "the best" or "the most accurate". I am a hunter as well as a shooter so most of my guns do double duty. I'm more concerned @ 'minute of gopher' rather than minute of angle. How does the gun perform in the field, from un-steady rests, if I've been hiking, or need to do a snap shot... Shooting from a bench under a shade w/o wind, and able to take 15-30 seconds to pull off a shot: doesn't mean a lot to me. Refreshing to see you have a similar mindset.
I have an old Marlin bolt action 22lr that shot better than my grandpas custom Ruger 10/22 target. My $200 squirrel gun was shooting as good and often better than my grandpas $1,200 custom target gun, The best group I made was 1/8 inch at 25yds (with the help of a 12x bushnell) so you really don't have to spend $800+ for an accurate gun, just get something that's high quality and affordable and practice as much as possible and you'll never miss a shot
My cousin has an old 44 mag lever action Winchester tucked behind the Landcruiser front seat a bit rough and is pretty old but shoots beautiful and straight with open sights. I caught up with him after about ten or so years and I asked him if he still had it he just laughed and said “she’s a good ole straight shooter and how good I was with it” which gave me a little hope but he turned and looked me in the eye and said “you ain’t never getting it now go and get me 500 rounds so I don’t have to see ya for another five years”
I had the same result. I shot a bunch of different .22 wmr rifles and the Mossberg 640 came in the with the tightest groups. One that came in close was the Remington autoloader 597 in 22 wmr. They are hard to find but was a close second.
Very interesting and I like your perspective. It is no doubt a fact that the average rifle is capable of greater accuracy than the average shooter. It is only when a person shoots a lot and studies how greater accuracy can be achieved by just controlling the way ones body addresses the rifle that rifles with better quality builds become really noticeable. Mechanical rests that mechanically discharge the rifle and remove the human body variable can be used to test rifles at the factory to see how accurate they are so that the designers can tweak for better accuracy (if the gun's go to market price allows for more expense in production). I used to do a lot of target archery and people were surprised if you challenged them to an accuracy contest at say twenty yards where you shot a bow and they shot a gun (with no scope)...and the archer got better groups. I would explain that with proper target archery the body is extremely limited with contact on the bow. Using a wrist sling with an open hand hold, the only physical contact with the bow is in the inside pad of the thumb between it and the index finger. Using a mechanical release attached to the string ones fingers don't touch the string. With practice and while maintaining a steadfast stance you'll get really really good. It is harder with a rifle because the gun rests into your shoulder and one hand is on the forend and the other wrapped around the grip. Much greater probability of such things as heartbeat and breathing affecting your sight picture, not to mention your trigger finger pulling the rifle off to right (or left) as the person squeezes. It's difficult to control all that, and not everyone has the ability or hand eye coordination to pull it off. It can be a matter of the little things. I set up a bows for people, shot them in to center, and then would hand the bow over to them. They usually did decently, but I would watch their body. One of the things I'd teach folks was this;;;;;; When you'd watch someone shooting a bow they'd be standing sideways to the target. As they released the arrow, you'd notice their right heel (left if they were that handed) come up just slightly...almost hard to notice. I'd call it following the shot. I would instruct them to get into a zone where they were perfectly still from the waste down...almost a zen thing. It was amazing how much their group size improved when they did that. I'm talking from about a four inch group at 20yds, down to two or better. Anyway, love talking guns and marksmanship! Glad I found your channel. You sound like you've forgotten more about guns than the average person ever knew in the first place!
I Really Appreciate this video! I have gone to the range with my Marlin 25mn from the 90's and ridiculously accurate! I have only shot it off sandbags at 50 yards under ideal conditions and acquired 1/2 inch c/c 5 round groups with the ammo I found it likes, Thanks for your channel! I had shot my buddies 640k WAY back in 75' and was also crazy accurate!
Something about those rifles ed - unbelievable - and I have yet to find an exception. I knew a fellow out in the flats that was expected to control the coyotes - he used a a MB 640K and seemed to never miss - a good shot helps the rifle of course but I can't think of another rifle model that offers that much accuracy per dollar. Those Marlins can be the same.
Your right. The most accurate 22lr I’ve ever had was a used $50 Marlin bolt action with their micro grove barrel and a cheap Tasco Scope. I swear it seemed I couldn’t miss with that rifle. Maybe because we had so much fun as children. In the military and as a Deputy Sheriff, instructors would seemingly always ask the question. What is the best handgun, service rifle or shotgun. Everyone I was around would always give their opinion. As taught by my mentors as a young man, I would always say “The best firearm is whatever I have in my hand at the time.” That always made people smile.
I've had four 22 magnums, Savage 93 short barrel, two chucksters (KS and regular) and ruger American compact. All achieved about the same accuracy at 50 yards, depending on the ammo, usually 5 shots in 1/2" or a bit more. The chuckster actually has a disadvantage over the others when mounting a scope: the mounting grooves are quite forward and consequently a very long eye relief scope is needed to be usable, or a special offset scope mount is needed for the rear mount which puts the centerline of the scope higher.
@@danholtbk7008 i never had any feed issues. The worst part of the savage is the cheap sheet metal mags and the sharp mag release. My mag release cut me when it was falling over and i grabbed it. With those mags, you sometimes have to modify them to correct feed issues. If it does the same thing with different mags, you may wish to : send back to savage, modify it yourself or get a gunsmith to do it. Mine was very accurate with 40gr cci maxi mags
I shaved about 1-1/2" off the butt and cured that problem in which did not have any issues with reattaching the plastic pad back to the stock, and it's unnoticeable.
I'm not sure about the .22 mag,never owned one, but the ammo in a .22 long rifle makes a big difference. One brand might drive tacks and another sprays them all over the target. Some guns seem to shoot anything well others even the same make and model might really like a certain cartridge but would have trouble hitting a barn with others. Great lesson. It shows that even inexpensive guns may shoot great. You'll never know unless you try it.
So true John - I'm hearing from many people - the price does not always mean much. The Chuckster is shockingly accurate - I never expected it to be; but there it is.
Semi auto .22wmr rifles are much sought after in the UK because they are the only calibre we can have in semi auto other than .22lr. But they are hard to come by. It's a pity more manufacturers don't make them.
You know i tried really hard to find, not one of these czs but the newer model in .22wmr (i always get the model numbers wrong i think it’s a 512) but the only one i could find was in northern ireland. You see alot of .17hmr over here though. People seem to go for it because its pretty good for farmers doing pest control as that’s generally just foxes and rabbits which .17 is ideal for. But yeah you do see alot of those kind of .22s knocking around. Not just AR style i actually saw what i think was an f2000 clone the other day. Also hello srs power like the channel, dont really agree with you politically but hey its still a good channel.
I had no idea - interesting - all these laws; people write me from around the world and my goodness, governments seem to be fascinated with passing all kinds of gun laws. I suppose they mean well but mostly just make things miserable for law abiding people who wonder what is going on. Thanks for writing.
I try to be objective and no matter how I look at it - the laws are not fair or even reasonable. Usually a tragedy happens and then the government runs around taking personal property and making all manner of things illegal - but the past remains the same; we can't change the past (as you know) and the law abiding people are just the same as they always were. Maybe I missed something.
The Chuckster came predrilled and tapped for the Mossberg S330 receiver sight. I currently have about a dozen Mossberg rifles and love them all. All are 22 lr except for the Chuckster. Yours looks like the 640KS which was the deluxe model.
About 25 years ago I picked up a new (then) Marlin 783 in .22 mag. I mounted a cheap Bushnell 3-9x40 scope on it and sighted it in. WOW! Even after thousands of rounds it still shoots one ragged hole at 100yds, under 1" at 150yds, and under 2" at 200yds. Rifles come and go, but this one isn't going anywhere!!!
I Agree I’ve Got a Few Cheap Rifles That Are Very Accurate a Marlin and an Old Savage 22LR That Was Sold at Sears In the 60’s 😊😊 I’d Love To Have That Chuckster Rifle
Happy new year everyone! Just wanted to say the autoloader on the table was the one (model) Tom Knapp the trick shot artist used to shoot when he wasn't breaking 7 or 8 hand thrown clay discs with his benilli's, god rest his soul.
Id really like to find a Savage 30-30 bolt. Ive seen a sew in other calibers, but Im looking for the 30-30. Savage/Stevens had a few variants of them. Yours looks like a fine example. Pretty sharp. Ive been trying to get Ruger to make a M77 30-30.
Excellent video I'm curious how you came up with CZette I've never heard it called that before or maybe it's a term of endearment since they are such great firearms
Hey, my friend. I believe he’s saying “C-Zed”. In many places around the world, particularly a Europe, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia, Zed is a common way to pronounce the letter “Z”. For example, many brits refer to the iconic car, the Datsun 240Z as the 240 Zed. Hope that helps.
The .22 Magnum is a very common rifle to my part of the country. It has been used as a pot gun by many of the scotch Irish highlanders for everything that flies walks and swims. That 30-30 really caught my attention though. It took me back to being a 16 year old know it all amature gunsmith who believed I could make a scope mount out of a bedrail to hold weaver rings for a 2x7 scope of questionable quality and fire the excellarateor or axcellarator cartridges with the sabot bullets to achieve an accurate 300 plus yard gun of a 30-30. The gun was a very accurate model 225 revelation. It was western autos version of your Savage and the rifle my dad won at a western auto grand opening and used up untill he got his model 700. Long story slightly shortened I actually did get that rifle to give some sort of accuracy and by using shims made from cut up beer cans I dialed the bedrail beast in to hit a paper plate 2 times at 250 yards before the soft iron bedrail gave way to recoil and I lost my zero. I did not ever take a deer with that gun but I still own it and with 150 gr Winchester silvertips it still puts then on top of each other at 50 yards which is exactly what it was made to do. My 24 year old son came to me the other day and asked about that gun to deer hunt with and I asked him why? And he said because somebody needs to. That was good enough for me and I'm sure that since the bedrail beast lost its head gear long ago in favor of iron sights he will put that gun to good use just like his grand pa did.
Have a Browning .22 mag pump rife with a Leopold scope, have taken Turkey with head shots, Browning has discontinued this rife many years ago but one of my favorite in .22 mag!!!
Hi Mike, Wondering about .22 Hornet, vs. .17 HMR vs . 22 Magnum,, your thoughts? What firearm would choose totpair with your round of choice? Thank you for your consideration. Rick Mansberger What
Hi Rick - Somehow the .22 Magnum has always worked best for me. The .17 dazzles with velocity and very light bullets and the Hornet is about 1000 FPS faster than the .22 Magnum but I'm not sure that all the Hornet velocity is that useful given what Hornets and .22 Magnums are usually used for. Once one factors in ammo cost (unless one reloads) and the .22 WMR moves ahead even more. I find the .22 WMR is a perfectly useful cartridge if more than a .22 is required. If still more sauce is needed than the .222/.223 are waiting with dramatic ballistic superiority - if one needs it. I also like the report of the .22 WMR - for sure more than a .22LR - but tame compared to the Hornet - at least to me. Having said all that, I like the .218 Bee and the Hornet as classic small cartridges - but if I could only own one - I'd take the .22 WMR. Hope that makes sense.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Hello, I have been hunting for a Magnum in a Winchester since you answer my question 4 months ago. I did obtain a Winchrster 9422 in LR that I truly enjoy. It is the most fun I have with any of my collection, probably because it it just so inexpensive to shoot. I was torn on getting 9422 in .22 magnum or a Winchester Model 61 in .22 Magnum. Since I already had the 9422 in LR in choose to find a bargain on a good quality Model 61. This week I will take delivery of a 1959 Model 61 Winchester pump action in .22 Magnum We will see how it stacks up against the 9422 and the Remington 572 Fieldmaster that I have. Should be a fun rimfire experience. Take care and be safe. Rick Mansberger
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Yeah I totally agree with you. .22 Hornet ammo is really going to hit you in the pocket book compared to the .22 Mag. I sold my Hornet (H&R single shot) for just this reason and now am happy with my Marlin .22 Mag bolt action!
I bought one of those Chucksters at a garage sale for 75.00 in the early nineties. It suffered alot from failure to fire and I spent alot of time working on the bolt the firing pin profile and that to get it to fire ever time. I put a cheap four power Bushnell on it and it shot excellent and I used it for awhile on gophers when I was out of .223 rounds. If I remember that plug in the back of the receiver was plastic, the gun was very cheap quality but had a good barrel on it so it was a really good shooter with the .22mag hollow points. I think it was made in Ontario Canada if I remember correctly I sold it to a fellow for coyotes on the farm in the 2002 he likely still has it.
my uncle had a Anschutz 1516 with a second touchy trigger. i think he use it only for training. He said the different ammo does have huge impact as well as manually reloading.
Awesome videos always 👍 I like the bargain rifles that are very accurate 👍 picked up a marlin 980- DL today that has an absolutely beautiful wood stock 22 magnum pre serial number, will be curious as to how it shoots
I used to have a bolt action 30-30 just like the one you have there. The only thing I didn't like about it was the safety. It was difficult to tell if it was actually engaged. I sold it to a young man that was going deer hunting for the first time and he owns it to this day.
Another GREAT INFORMATIVE VIDEO, as usual. Hello again just wanted to let you know that recently I picked up a NICE 22magnum bolt rifle. I have numerous 22lr rifles but NO 22MAGNUM so I figure to get a VERY NICE ONE. I was at Cabela's and saw a REALLY NICE RIFLE in 22magnum, Steyr Zephyr II bolt rifle. I was IMPRESSED so I bought it. I haven't shot it yet but anxious to do so. I had to mount a scope on it because NO IRON SIGHTS, but wish it did. 😯😁👍
I once had a Heckler & Koch 22 mag semi. It did not have barrel fluting but instead the barrel was twisted. It was a beautiful gun but not known for its accuracy. I however could shave a gnat at 100yds with it. As you say a lot depends on the individual and the individual gun. Great vid btw, thank you...
That H&K is so great - I keep hoping to find one - but the lines are long and I never seem to be at the right place at the right time. Sounds like you are a heck of a shot William. I'm glad you have that rifle.
This is a great video..as are most of the videos you produce. I have to agree with the accuracy of the Mossberg....I purchased one in 1993 for $35 that was being used to shoot rats in a barn. I did nothing more than clean the bore and action...mounted an inexpensive 3x9 Tasco scope...and proceeded to enjoy it for Groundhog and small game hunting ever since. To this day it is my go to rifle for varmints and such and has always been Dead on if you will pardon the pun.
I have only one 22 mag. Its a Savage model 24 22mag over 20 gauge. Its a small game harvesting machine. I really like the flatter trajectory of the 22mag over the 22lr and the 40 grain bullet will have enough energy to make humane kills 100yds plus. With the thicker rim I find it is far less likely to misfire when compared to the 22lr. The only issue with 22mag is have is the price. I can buy 2 boxes on non-reloadable 9mm for 1 box of 22 magnum. And please give kudos to your camera man, set designer and other staff. They do a very good job at making your videos pleasing to the eye and ear. Maybe that's why I watch so much.
Thanks Jake - I'm sure you know your 24 is scarce and getting more so; and such a useful gun. I like your "game harvesting machine" description. I'm not sure why the ammo is so pricey - but it is worth it. I still like the .22 Mag over the HMR. I'll pass on your good words to the studio people - they'll be very happy to know they are appreciated. Have a great weekend.
I had the H&K 300. The polygon bore really worked, most ammo would do 2100-2200 fps, and the accuracy was phenomenal. Most would do 1- 11/2 Moa at 100 meters, but I got a box of ely that would put 5 shots under 1/2". There wasn't much you could do with the trigger, but amazing how well it worked. This was in the mid '80's, and the Ely cost over $9 a box of 50, compared to $3-$4 for most others. Sadly the rifle was stolen and they're hard to find
Hello from Australia, I like your videos for not being about plastic fantastic and tactical rifles, I’ve had my mossberg chuckster for 15 years. Since buying it I have baught others and sold them they just shoot like the 640, I have taken fallow deer, goats and medium feral pigs with it, the 2 screws on the back left of the receiver hold the plastic bolt stopper in place. But didn’t know I could take them out and use a different sight
Thanks for the note Vasili - those Chucksters are so easy not to notice on the used rack - yet remain one of the best. You probably have the most extensive experience with the rifle and the .22 mag. Always nice to hear from the Lucky Country! All the best.
I have a rifle that shoots cheap ammo better than the expensive stuff. That is not scientific but it is my experience. Great video, Mossberg sales are up!
GREAT video BUTT..... on the semi auto you never mentioned the ACTUAL name or model... just that it was Czech. Is it the 512???? What year approx??? Thanks for a great vid. Have you tried the Henry Pump or Savage semi auto in 22 mag???
Hi - sorry about that - I think that was a PPK BRNO; I only shot the Henry at the range and I have the Savage in .17 HMR - the one with the delayed blow back. The Henry had a very slick action; I think and aluminum receiver. The Savage runs perfectly and was very accurate. Sorry I don't know more about these.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns You're GREAT!!! Your honest and humble while being very knowledgeable is refreshing in firearm video makers!!! Thank you so much for your reply!!!
I bought a Mossberg 640K for $25, from a guy in the parking lot, after the pawn shop wouldn't give him anything, because the rifle was so gummed up the bolt would barely cycle. I cleaned up the action, sanded and oiled the stock, and now it is again an attractive, and accurate rifle.
. When i was a kid (about a hundred years ago) I could hit a tin can out at 200 yards, all day / with my Mossburg. (and it wasnt an expensive rifle either) Thanks again.
I bought a Chuckster in a pawnshop missing the clip and after a long search I found one at a gunshop for $90 so I passed and fount two from a gunsmith for $90 and bought them both,keep your eyes peeled for the coffin shaped long clips,they're hard to find and spendy when you do.
I've had excellent results with my Marlin 25MN, it's not stock though, trigger work (4 ounce pull), shortened barrell with a resessed crown, and glass bedded! 1/2" @100yds consistently! Just wanted to prove to my buddies that the price of the gun didn't equal how well it would shoot! Enjoyed you video!
I give the Chuckster two thumbs up as the most accurate ( why ) , it's the only rifle I can shoot skeet with , clay , cans , birds in flight , quarters .. at 100yrds with a scope I can cover 5 shots with a dime . Straight out of the box the most accurate versatile rifle I've ever owned .
i have a "NEW HAVEN" by Mossberg, it was the export model of the chuckster (im in Australia). no checking on the stock and no plastic plate on the bottom of the grip. very very basic model, but other than that its exactly the same. FYI' the savage 22 mag/17hmr 10 shot magazine fits perfectly!!!
Thank you tims - that is very useful to know - I need an extra mag. I like all Very Very rifles : ) Never afraid of work in the jungle, outback or Northern forest - in a pinch I grab a Very Very and head out for business in the bush. On a different note - from contributors in Australia I learned that some rifles from seem to have different names when imported to the Lucky Country. I wonder why that is. Also, were Winchesters imported as Daisy rifles to Australia. Probably a simple answer - I just don't know. I see the Winchester Daisy web site - maybe a clue. If you have the time to let me know - would be much appreciated. Thank you mate.
To make your point, I had the Mossberg many years ago. Beautiful gone but I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with. Eventually traded it for a black powder muzzle loader.
My dad just gave me his mossberg chuckster 22 mag and I love it. I believe when it came out it was $28 brand new. I think it's a pretty nice looking gun myself
Hi Cory - You've got a great dad - that's a fantastic rifle that can serve you for years. All the best to you, your dad and friends and family for 2023! Good shooting too : )
So true. You and your gun. I can swap rifles and my sons nail driver opens up to ok. Try a few SKS's and there it is a very respectable rifle in your hands. Thank you. Happy new year . Cheers
The Marlin bolt .22 mag is a favorite go-to farm gun in my locale of East NC, USA. I'm something of a pariah in my neighborhood as i favor the Marlin 522 semi auto .22 mag.
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
Well put
Having experienced the quality of CZ guns, I can't really justify buying anything else. The prices are reasonable, they're aesthetically appealing and they'll eat any ammo you feed them while functioning flawlessly. You could reasonably argue that they're the Toyota Camry of the gun world.
Comparing it to a Camry kind of turned me off to my CZs but I guess I get what you're saying
@@squirrelmarm7218 turned me onto It cause Toyota makes the best vehicles period
@@ToyotaNutjob A Camry is a refrigerator on wheels but it is true that it is the best refrigerator on wheels
CZs are what American firearms quality was 40 years ago. Surpurb firearms. They are a tad expensive in my opinion, but worth every cent.
One thing to note is that the quality of .22 Magnum ammunition over the decades has improved dramatically compared to the one or two brands initially offered.
Good point!
My favorite is the Hornady ballistic tips great round. That's all I shoot out of my larger calibers hard to beat hornady!!
Yep
My chuckster shoots amazing
And it’s been treated Rough
Was my go to coon hunting rifle for decades
It’s all rust pitted and beat to crap
But it’s just as accurate now as it was then
Great video
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This was the video I have been waiting for! Many thanks!
I really appreciate your channel. Wonderful to such honesty. Thanks for what you do.
You too brother
Thank you so much for you videos USOG, I watch them all the time. I really appreciate and respect your knowledge and humility. May the Lord bless you even more.
Thank you Marshall Gee - my privilege. God Bless you!
You have a very patient and well reasoned speaking style, my friend. Nice to experience that in this era of verbal carnivals of the ego that we so often have to endure for the sake of simple idea exchange.
Thank you Nathaniel - I try - have a Happy New Year celebration!
Yes, I agree. I didn't quite know what it was, but i found myself just enjoying the way this fellows mind works and the way he expressed himself. I think it's also called "common sense." ....i didn't feel assaulted with words, as i often do feel...
I am an older Aussie shooter. How refreshing to watch a video that is so informative and honest. How easily we are influenced by perhaps well meaning folk who post videos proclaiming a particular firearm is "the best" or "most accurate". Thankyou!
Thank you Peter - I look forward to being back in Australia after COVID - wonderful people and country.
I purchased a slightly used Mossberg chuckster back in the '80s and it's very plain Jane Remington 788 looking. One thing about that gun is that it has a rather long barrel. 24-in I believe. I never looked into the rate of twist on it but I can tell you that I can consistently shoot a string with that gun at 50 yards.
Ive told this before but really u do a great job at these videos !! I learn alot!! I watch alot of many defifferent kinda of videos and u make the most sense, you r honest and understand that each person and gun isnt the one u r shooting ..you arent an ass u tell what u think.. that deserves praise !!! Thank you !!!
Excellent video as usual. I have owned dozens of rifles over the years, some new, some used. But apart from a shot out winchester model 70, they all shot much better than me. Even a cheap new england single shot in .22 hornet was an unbelieveable tackdriver.
As I've commented before on other videos, I especially love your content on "sleeper" models. Finding a $200 gun that outshoots most $1k guns is most satisfying, almost feels like getting away with something!
From what I've seen on auction sites, that Chuckster isn't much of a sleeper anymore, with prices much more than a tank or two of gas! Maybe I can sneak up on one in a gun shop someday; I'm a geek for 22 mags!
Have you had the opportunity to experience the same accuracy in other 340 calibers, 222 & 22 Hornet? An inexpensive classic Hornet would be a prize!
Thanks for your wonderful content!
I'm a bass player, and my joy is to find great instruments that are under $200. When one knows what to look for, you don't need to spend a lot of money.
I was giving an old chuckster from
A friend to try out. Can’t wait to take it to the range with a old Simmons 22mag scope that always did me right to see what this rifle is capable of and if I should purchase it from him.
I’ve got a marlin that shoots tremendously well in 22 magnum
Same here! I love my model 25 Marlin in .22 magnum. It is not for sale...lol!
Shoot house sparrows with the 983t. Iron sights. Surprises me every time they fall. It is like ”wow, this thing shoots nice”. And it says north haven on the barrel.
I have a Marlin 925m that I picked up used it is a tackdriver!
I have a 25 m that is extremely accurate
An under appreciated caliber to be sure. I own a Marlin version and with my Weaver fixed 4x dot scope is a head-shot machine for ground squirrels up to 125 yards. Ammo can be relatively expensive, but in my case, the cheapest was the best. it really pays to try different factory offerings before deciding what is best for your rifle. At 1900 fps, it is far superior to the .22LR and is a nitch caliber. This caliber is inherently accurate, but is not a 'plinker' because of the ammo cost. NTL, if you don't currently have one, you should consider it if you haven't already. I like my Marlin's tube magazine because it offers counter balance when loaded, but I am considering a Ruger American because of the threaded muzzle. This is an outstanding caliber for predators in the 125 yard range and below.
I also have a Marlin and also scoped it. The iron sights are fine, but my 51 year old eyes can't seem to hit anything without bright sunlight.
22 mag ammunition is pretty cheap. The good ones where I’m at are $21
Well said the ammo is Alot better than it was 10 years ago I have a savage model 93 and it has a 16.5 inch barrel it will shoot a quarter in group at 50 yds it's really hard to believe but this gun shoots all 22 wmr really well I'm happy also has a Burris rimfire scope it's great
Great video my friend, honest opinion on all firearms no matter the price,make or model.
I have a CZ 452 22lr American. I use it for foxes, rabbits out to 100yds + a Great rifle and value for money.
I have a Savage 65 M 22 Magnum bolt action. Highly accurate, good range all factory . It wasn't fired since 1966. It was my Dad's gun. I ordered a couple magazines for it. The original was gone. My mom gave it to me. Dad passed as a young man in 1966. I'm thrilled to have it. It's an awesome gun. Thanks for your honest review. Surprised but not surprised after the performance of the 65 M. Thanks for the video.
I have a MD 61 Winchester in 22wmr and shoots excellent! Keep up the good work watching you videos daily. Thank you
Always wanted one of those paw - a 61 in 22 WMR - magic. Glad you like the videos.
Never owned one myself but a shooting buddy of mine told me years ago that his father had only purchased one gun in his life. It was the Mossberg Chuckster and he said you wouldn’t believe how accurate it was. Thanks for story.
I mentioned a Marlin Mod 25 I had for over 25 years. That little $50 rifle shot consistently tighter than a very beautiful and very expensive Browning bolt action 22 LR I have. And I could care less. I really enjoy all 22’s. I think the only thing I prefer on any firearm is wood stocks. Even if it’s very plain. But that wouldn’t and hasn’t stoped me from buy any firearm that I liked. If I could buy every 22 rifle ever made, I would. Like I’ve said before, they are just fun.
Great video, great candid mindset & explanation (s). Thank you!
Thank you!
Great video as always
Thanks for sharing your experiences with your 22 magnum rifles. I always wondered why the 22 magnum has the same twist ratio as a 22 LR. Most times this is a 1 in 16" of barrel. However the Ruger American Rimfire has a 1 in 14" twist of barrel. It would seem to make more sense to have the 1 in 14" twist for the heavier 22 magnum rounds (40 to 50 grains) and it ought to demonstrate more stability and possibly more accuracy with heavier bullets. I have no experience with the Ruger American 22 Magnum rimfire but it would be interesting to see if favorable results are achieved with heavier bullets with the faster twist ratio that Ruger offers. I can attest that the Browning T-bolt in 22 magnum shoots the Hornady 30 grain V max bullets very well. I've tried a lot of brands of 22 ammo and the V max does everything one would hope it would do - and it has a twist ratio of 1 in 16" ratio. And as you mentioned, every rifle will have a particular round that works well with it and we won't know which one, until we try as many as we can.
I like the T-bolt you have a lot - one of the best out there. As for rate of twist - it may just be me but I have not noticed much or any difference with the .22s - LR or magnum. I guess if someone made a 75 grain .22 rimfire bullet a faster rate of twist might be meaningful; or a 20 grain (haha) .22 Magnum bullet - slower rate of twist might be the way; as it is - things are pretty stable and magnums generally shoot very well. As you write : find the magic brand for your .22 Magnum and you can have one of the most accurate and useful cartridges of all.
Thank you. I appreciate your candid reviews. I don't have a Mossberg but have been open to tying one out for some time. Two of my favorite rimfire rifles are Marlin 22 Mag and 17 HMR rifles. Both have worked out well for me. I think careful break-in and maintenance goes a long way; that and good shooting technique.
Marlins : people have the best things to say about them from experience. Mossbergs are interesting, partly because there were so many different models.
This was probably the best reality check I’ve had in a while. Thanks…I needed that!
I like the microgroove bbls.seemed very accurate to me.thanks for all your great videos
You bet - supreme accuracy!
Enjoyed that will definitely tell my friends about the mossberg 22 mag. Good information!!!
Thanks to Will! First gun video I have seen expounding on the scientific method!! And , may BE the only one.
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Excellent video and great point. Older vintage guns are great buys and usually are fairly accurate if not more than modern "Budget" guns.
They're mostly so well made and durable - and if not abused or neglected : far better than the new plasti-guns.
Great video and you’re right on the money about rifle tests. You’re a very intelligent man and I continue to learn from you every time I watch your videos. Not to be nosey, but you sound like an engineer. My dad was an engineer (self-taught) but remarkably capable. You talk about things similarly to how he talked.
I'm humbled by your kind words Kenneth. I studied political science and economics at university and have a corresponding degree. I have no engineering training; yet have studied and read on most subjects out of personal interest for meany years. I like learning. : )
Great video again, I at one time had a Remington 788 in .223 cheap rifle but extremely accurate. I heard Remington dropped it because it was cutting into sales of the model 700.
The 788 was a tackdriver in 222 and 223. Like we are talking .2 at 100 yds.
I'll never let mine go 788 in 6mm. Also fast (quick) lock time.
I went out and bought a Chuckster based on this video. Love it. Also love my other Mossberg rimfire rifles.
Great buy - I shot another Chuckster 3 weeks ago - I thought I was missing but it was 5 shots in one ragged hole. Nice!
Thanks for sharing
Very interesting video and great points! Thanks!
I just discovered your channel. Great work on your part. Impressive experience and neutral commentary, god on you sir.
Thank you! Glad you are here : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I posted before I read it. I meant to say "Good on you sir".
I also have a moss burg chuckster that I like very much but the dovetail for mounting the scope does not extend very far back on the receiver, therefore mounting the scope is quite a challenge. Any suggestions?
The hair on my neck stood up when you.said Mossberg chuckster lol .I have had a similar experience .I took 6 different. 22 mags and some with new fancy optics .at the end of the day my Mossberg 620 k single shot prevailed .just a accurate classy little rifle . I
Great to hear Tony - I can't figure it out but it is what it is - the Chuckster is a laser and the 620K must be as well. Thanks for sharing.
I wouldn't trade my 22 mag Chuckster for all the other guns on the table,I've never seen a Mossberg that wasen't a great shooter.
Just got one today first one I have ever had
I just bought one today
Watch...the price of the"chuckster"will go out the window because of this video.
The chuckster action is pretty much the same as the 44us mossberg series, I have a 44usb, and I agree with match ammo it can make single hole groups at 100 yards on a good day
By the way the 2 holes on the back of the reciever are for the Lyman swing away target peep sight I believe
if youve ever tried out their semi auto budget .22 lrs youd say otherwise, the 715t is a piece of junk, jams every 10th round even after the "break-in" period
LOVE the videos! So low key AND gracious. So many on YT are so declarative and absolute on "the best" or "the most accurate". I am a hunter as well as a shooter so most of my guns do double duty. I'm more concerned @ 'minute of gopher' rather than minute of angle. How does the gun perform in the field, from un-steady rests, if I've been hiking, or need to do a snap shot... Shooting from a bench under a shade w/o wind, and able to take 15-30 seconds to pull off a shot: doesn't mean a lot to me. Refreshing to see you have a similar mindset.
Excellent work again.....thank you
I have an old Marlin bolt action 22lr that shot better than my grandpas custom Ruger 10/22 target.
My $200 squirrel gun was shooting as good and often better than my grandpas $1,200 custom target gun, The best group I made was 1/8 inch at 25yds (with the help of a 12x bushnell) so you really don't have to spend $800+ for an accurate gun, just get something that's high quality and affordable and practice as much as possible and you'll never miss a shot
Thanks for the video by the way
Your logic is very scientific! :)
Yours is the best TH-cam channel going , Hickock45 is a close second , keep up the good work , very professional and informative.
Thank you Clifford!
Hope you have a happy new year I really enjoy all your video's
Have a Happy New Year and all the best for 2020!
My cousin has an old 44 mag lever action Winchester tucked behind the Landcruiser front seat a bit rough and is pretty old but shoots beautiful and straight with open sights. I caught up with him after about ten or so years and I asked him if he still had it he just laughed and said “she’s a good ole straight shooter and how good I was with it” which gave me a little hope but he turned and looked me in the eye and said “you ain’t never getting it now go and get me 500 rounds so I don’t have to see ya for another five years”
I had the same result. I shot a bunch of different .22 wmr rifles and the Mossberg 640 came in the with the tightest groups. One that came in close was the Remington autoloader 597 in 22 wmr. They are hard to find but was a close second.
I''ll have to find one Don - they look sharp. Those Mossbergs though - everyone seems to have the same results - phenomenal accuracy.
Very interesting and I like your perspective. It is no doubt a fact that the average rifle is capable of greater accuracy than the average shooter. It is only when a person shoots a lot and studies how greater accuracy can be achieved by just controlling the way ones body addresses the rifle that rifles with better quality builds become really noticeable. Mechanical rests that mechanically discharge the rifle and remove the human body variable can be used to test rifles at the factory to see how accurate they are so that the designers can tweak for better accuracy (if the gun's go to market price allows for more expense in production). I used to do a lot of target archery and people were surprised if you challenged them to an accuracy contest at say twenty yards where you shot a bow and they shot a gun (with no scope)...and the archer got better groups. I would explain that with proper target archery the body is extremely limited with contact on the bow. Using a wrist sling with an open hand hold, the only physical contact with the bow is in the inside pad of the thumb between it and the index finger. Using a mechanical release attached to the string ones fingers don't touch the string. With practice and while maintaining a steadfast stance you'll get really really good. It is harder with a rifle because the gun rests into your shoulder and one hand is on the forend and the other wrapped around the grip. Much greater probability of such things as heartbeat and breathing affecting your sight picture, not to mention your trigger finger pulling the rifle off to right (or left) as the person squeezes. It's difficult to control all that, and not everyone has the ability or hand eye coordination to pull it off. It can be a matter of the little things. I set up a bows for people, shot them in to center, and then would hand the bow over to them. They usually did decently, but I would watch their body. One of the things I'd teach folks was this;;;;;; When you'd watch someone shooting a bow they'd be standing sideways to the target. As they released the arrow, you'd notice their right heel (left if they were that handed) come up just slightly...almost hard to notice. I'd call it following the shot. I would instruct them to get into a zone where they were perfectly still from the waste down...almost a zen thing. It was amazing how much their group size improved when they did that. I'm talking from about a four inch group at 20yds, down to two or better. Anyway, love talking guns and marksmanship! Glad I found your channel. You sound like you've forgotten more about guns than the average person ever knew in the first place!
I Really Appreciate this video! I have gone to the range with my Marlin 25mn from the 90's and ridiculously accurate! I have only shot it off sandbags at 50 yards under ideal conditions and acquired 1/2 inch c/c 5 round groups with the ammo I found it likes, Thanks for your channel! I had shot my buddies 640k WAY back in 75' and was also crazy accurate!
Something about those rifles ed - unbelievable - and I have yet to find an exception. I knew a fellow out in the flats that was expected to control the coyotes - he used a a MB 640K and seemed to never miss - a good shot helps the rifle of course but I can't think of another rifle model that offers that much accuracy per dollar. Those Marlins can be the same.
Your right. The most accurate 22lr I’ve ever had was a used $50 Marlin bolt action with their micro grove barrel and a cheap Tasco Scope. I swear it seemed I couldn’t miss with that rifle. Maybe because we had so much fun as children.
In the military and as a Deputy Sheriff, instructors would seemingly always ask the question. What is the best handgun, service rifle or shotgun. Everyone I was around would always give their opinion. As taught by my mentors as a young man, I would always say “The best firearm is whatever I have in my hand at the time.” That always made people smile.
My BFF has a Marlin tube fed XT 22 mag... 13 rounds of 22 mag bad assness!!!
Good talk. 22 mag is my favorite caliber. I use to have a couple bolt actions but once I found volquartsen that was it for me.
Volquartsen makes some fantastic (if pricey) stuff. I have some of their mk3 products. Really impressive.
I've had four 22 magnums, Savage 93 short barrel, two chucksters (KS and regular) and ruger American compact. All achieved about the same accuracy at 50 yards, depending on the ammo, usually 5 shots in 1/2" or a bit more. The chuckster actually has a disadvantage over the others when mounting a scope: the mounting grooves are quite forward and consequently a very long eye relief scope is needed to be usable, or a special offset scope mount is needed for the rear mount which puts the centerline of the scope higher.
That’s the problem I’m having also. I can’t get the scope back far enough. It’s a chuckster by the way
@@danholtbk7008 i never had any feed issues. The worst part of the savage is the cheap sheet metal mags and the sharp mag release. My mag release cut me when it was falling over and i grabbed it. With those mags, you sometimes have to modify them to correct feed issues. If it does the same thing with different mags, you may wish to : send back to savage, modify it yourself or get a gunsmith to do it. Mine was very accurate with 40gr cci maxi mags
I shaved about 1-1/2" off the butt and cured that problem in which did not have any issues with reattaching the plastic pad back to the stock, and it's unnoticeable.
I'm not sure about the .22 mag,never owned one, but the ammo in a .22 long rifle makes a big difference. One brand might drive tacks and another sprays them all over the target. Some guns seem to shoot anything well others even the same make and model might really like a certain cartridge but would have trouble hitting a barn with others. Great lesson. It shows that even inexpensive guns may shoot great. You'll never know unless you try it.
If you are a small game hunter you will appreciate the 22 magnum over the 22 lr. It is a powerful, yet does not destroy the meat of small animals.
So true John - I'm hearing from many people - the price does not always mean much. The Chuckster is shockingly accurate - I never expected it to be; but there it is.
I agree - the .22 Mag is excellent.
Semi auto .22wmr rifles are much sought after in the UK because they are the only calibre we can have in semi auto other than .22lr. But they are hard to come by. It's a pity more manufacturers don't make them.
Isn't the CZ model shown not available? Anyways was thinking, the AR type .22lrs such as S&W must be selling like hot cakes in the UK?(Sorry meat pie)
You know i tried really hard to find, not one of these czs but the newer model in .22wmr (i always get the model numbers wrong i think it’s a 512) but the only one i could find was in northern ireland. You see alot of .17hmr over here though. People seem to go for it because its pretty good for farmers doing pest control as that’s generally just foxes and rabbits which .17 is ideal for. But yeah you do see alot of those kind of .22s knocking around. Not just AR style i actually saw what i think was an f2000 clone the other day.
Also hello srs power like the channel, dont really agree with you politically but hey its still a good channel.
I had no idea - interesting - all these laws; people write me from around the world and my goodness, governments seem to be fascinated with passing all kinds of gun laws. I suppose they mean well but mostly just make things miserable for law abiding people who wonder what is going on. Thanks for writing.
USOG Yeah the UK is one of the worst in my experience really. Well not compared to China i suppose but its all relative isn’t it.
I try to be objective and no matter how I look at it - the laws are not fair or even reasonable. Usually a tragedy happens and then the government runs around taking personal property and making all manner of things illegal - but the past remains the same; we can't change the past (as you know) and the law abiding people are just the same as they always were. Maybe I missed something.
The Chuckster came predrilled and tapped for the Mossberg S330 receiver sight. I currently have about a dozen Mossberg rifles and love them all. All are 22 lr except for the Chuckster. Yours looks like the 640KS which was the deluxe model.
Love these videos.
About 25 years ago I picked up a new (then) Marlin 783 in .22 mag. I mounted a cheap Bushnell 3-9x40 scope on it and sighted it in. WOW! Even after thousands of rounds it still shoots one ragged hole at 100yds, under 1" at 150yds, and under 2" at 200yds.
Rifles come and go, but this one isn't going anywhere!!!
I Agree I’ve Got a Few Cheap Rifles That Are Very Accurate a Marlin and an Old Savage 22LR That Was Sold at Sears In the 60’s 😊😊 I’d Love To Have That Chuckster Rifle
Happy new year everyone! Just wanted to say the autoloader on the table was the one (model) Tom Knapp the trick shot artist used to shoot when he wasn't breaking 7 or 8 hand thrown clay discs with his benilli's, god rest his soul.
Excellent and refreshing perspective.
Thank you!
Id really like to find a Savage 30-30 bolt. Ive seen a sew in other calibers, but Im looking for the 30-30. Savage/Stevens had a few variants of them. Yours looks like a fine example. Pretty sharp. Ive been trying to get Ruger to make a M77 30-30.
Why? There are a buncha 30 cal bolt guns.. Take your pick.
Excellent video I'm curious how you came up with CZette I've never heard it called that before or maybe it's a term of endearment since they are such great firearms
I'm not sure myself. I'll have to watch the video : ) Thanks for the support.
Hey, my friend. I believe he’s saying “C-Zed”. In many places around the world, particularly a Europe, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia, Zed is a common way to pronounce the letter “Z”. For example, many brits refer to the iconic car, the Datsun 240Z as the 240 Zed. Hope that helps.
The .22 Magnum is a very common rifle to my part of the country. It has been used as a pot gun by many of the scotch Irish highlanders for everything that flies walks and swims. That 30-30 really caught my attention though. It took me back to being a 16 year old know it all amature gunsmith who believed I could make a scope mount out of a bedrail to hold weaver rings for a 2x7 scope of questionable quality and fire the excellarateor or axcellarator cartridges with the sabot bullets to achieve an accurate 300 plus yard gun of a 30-30. The gun was a very accurate model 225 revelation. It was western autos version of your Savage and the rifle my dad won at a western auto grand opening and used up untill he got his model 700. Long story slightly shortened I actually did get that rifle to give some sort of accuracy and by using shims made from cut up beer cans I dialed the bedrail beast in to hit a paper plate 2 times at 250 yards before the soft iron bedrail gave way to recoil and I lost my zero. I did not ever take a deer with that gun but I still own it and with 150 gr Winchester silvertips it still puts then on top of each other at 50 yards which is exactly what it was made to do. My 24 year old son came to me the other day and asked about that gun to deer hunt with and I asked him why? And he said because somebody needs to. That was good enough for me and I'm sure that since the bedrail beast lost its head gear long ago in favor of iron sights he will put that gun to good use just like his grand pa did.
Have a Browning .22 mag pump rife with a Leopold scope, have taken Turkey with head shots, Browning has discontinued this rife many years ago but one of my favorite in .22 mag!!!
I know the one Harry - you have one of the absolute best - as you know.
Hi Mike,
Wondering about .22 Hornet, vs.
.17 HMR vs . 22 Magnum,, your thoughts?
What firearm would choose totpair with your round of choice?
Thank you for your consideration.
Rick Mansberger
What
Hi Rick - Somehow the .22 Magnum has always worked best for me. The .17 dazzles with velocity and very light bullets and the Hornet is about 1000 FPS faster than the .22 Magnum but I'm not sure that all the Hornet velocity is that useful given what Hornets and .22 Magnums are usually used for. Once one factors in ammo cost (unless one reloads) and the .22 WMR moves ahead even more. I find the .22 WMR is a perfectly useful cartridge if more than a .22 is required. If still more sauce is needed than the .222/.223 are waiting with dramatic ballistic superiority - if one needs it. I also like the report of the .22 WMR - for sure more than a .22LR - but tame compared to the Hornet - at least to me. Having said all that, I like the .218 Bee and the Hornet as classic small cartridges - but if I could only own one - I'd take the .22 WMR. Hope that makes sense.
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Hello,
I have been hunting for a Magnum in a Winchester since you answer my question 4 months ago.
I did obtain a Winchrster 9422 in LR that I truly enjoy. It is the most fun I have with any of my collection, probably because it it just so inexpensive to shoot.
I was torn on getting 9422 in
.22 magnum or a Winchester Model 61 in .22 Magnum.
Since I already had the 9422 in LR in choose to find a bargain on a good quality Model 61.
This week I will take delivery of a 1959 Model 61 Winchester pump action in .22 Magnum
We will see how it stacks up against the 9422 and the Remington 572 Fieldmaster that I have.
Should be a fun rimfire experience.
Take care and be safe.
Rick Mansberger
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Yeah I totally agree with you. .22 Hornet ammo is really going to hit you in the pocket book compared to the .22 Mag. I sold my Hornet (H&R single shot) for just this reason and now am happy with my Marlin .22 Mag bolt action!
I always find your content interesting and well thought out. Keep it up!
Thanks for the good words - they help me.
I bought one of those Chucksters at a garage sale for 75.00 in the early nineties. It suffered alot from failure to fire and I spent alot of time working on the bolt the firing pin profile and that to get it to fire ever time. I put a cheap four power Bushnell on it and it shot excellent and I used it for awhile on gophers when I was out of .223 rounds. If I remember that plug in the back of the receiver was plastic, the gun was very cheap quality but had a good barrel on it so it was a really good shooter with the .22mag hollow points. I think it was made in Ontario Canada if I remember correctly I sold it to a fellow for coyotes on the farm in the 2002 he likely still has it.
I own a Mossberg , great rifle and very accurate
I’d pull the stock off that mossberg and see if the previous owner glass bedded the stock?
my uncle had a Anschutz 1516 with a second touchy trigger. i think he use it only for training. He said the different ammo does have huge impact as well as manually reloading.
I had the exact same rifle. Pulled rear trigger back to make front trigger very sensitive. Beautiful rifle, wished I'd never sold it.
Awesome videos always 👍 I like the bargain rifles that are very accurate 👍 picked up a marlin 980- DL today that has an absolutely beautiful wood stock 22 magnum pre serial number, will be curious as to how it shoots
They usually shoot extremely well; fine gun to own - especially with that stock. Good on you.
very nice video . I enjoyed that .
I used to have a bolt action 30-30 just like the one you have there. The only thing I didn't like about it was the safety. It was difficult to tell if it was actually engaged. I sold it to a young man that was going deer hunting for the first time and he owns it to this day.
good collection of accurate rifles. Bravo!
Thank you Jim!
I've had a Marlin model 882 since my dad bought it for me when I was probably 13. Great gun.
They last and last - basically don't stop working - as you know.
Another GREAT INFORMATIVE VIDEO, as usual. Hello again just wanted to let you know that recently I picked up a NICE 22magnum bolt rifle. I have numerous 22lr rifles but NO 22MAGNUM so I figure to get a VERY NICE ONE. I was at Cabela's and saw a REALLY NICE RIFLE in 22magnum, Steyr Zephyr II bolt rifle. I was IMPRESSED so I bought it. I haven't shot it yet but anxious to do so. I had to mount a scope on it because NO IRON SIGHTS, but wish it did. 😯😁👍
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I bought a Mossberg chuckster today before I watched this video. Man I am glad I did
Awesome rifle and accuracy William. Great buy!
Please keep us informed of all this information
Will do my friend.
I love the 22 mag! Any chance on A review of the Marlin levermatics?
I once had a Heckler & Koch 22 mag semi. It did not have barrel fluting but instead the barrel was twisted. It was a beautiful gun but not known for its accuracy. I however could shave a gnat at 100yds with it. As you say a lot depends on the individual and the individual gun. Great vid btw, thank you...
That H&K is so great - I keep hoping to find one - but the lines are long and I never seem to be at the right place at the right time. Sounds like you are a heck of a shot William. I'm glad you have that rifle.
This is a great video..as are most of the videos you produce. I have to agree with the accuracy of the Mossberg....I purchased one in 1993 for $35 that was being used to shoot rats in a barn. I did nothing more than clean the bore and action...mounted an inexpensive 3x9 Tasco scope...and proceeded to enjoy it for Groundhog and small game hunting ever since. To this day it is my go to rifle for varmints and such and has always been Dead on if you will pardon the pun.
I have only one 22 mag. Its a Savage model 24 22mag over 20 gauge. Its a small game harvesting machine. I really like the flatter trajectory of the 22mag over the 22lr and the 40 grain bullet will have enough energy to make humane kills 100yds plus. With the thicker rim I find it is far less likely to misfire when compared to the 22lr. The only issue with 22mag is have is the price. I can buy 2 boxes on non-reloadable 9mm for 1 box of 22 magnum. And please give kudos to your camera man, set designer and other staff. They do a very good job at making your videos pleasing to the eye and ear. Maybe that's why I watch so much.
Thanks Jake - I'm sure you know your 24 is scarce and getting more so; and such a useful gun. I like your "game harvesting machine" description. I'm not sure why the ammo is so pricey - but it is worth it. I still like the .22 Mag over the HMR. I'll pass on your good words to the studio people - they'll be very happy to know they are appreciated. Have a great weekend.
I had the H&K 300. The polygon bore really worked, most ammo would do 2100-2200 fps, and the accuracy was phenomenal. Most would do 1- 11/2 Moa at 100 meters, but I got a box of ely that would put 5 shots under 1/2". There wasn't much you could do with the trigger, but amazing how well it worked. This was in the mid '80's, and the Ely cost over $9 a box of 50, compared to $3-$4 for most others. Sadly the rifle was stolen and they're hard to find
Hello from Australia, I like your videos for not being about plastic fantastic and tactical rifles, I’ve had my mossberg chuckster for 15 years. Since buying it I have baught others and sold them they just shoot like the 640, I have taken fallow deer, goats and medium feral pigs with it, the 2 screws on the back left of the receiver hold the plastic bolt stopper in place. But didn’t know I could take them out and use a different sight
Thanks for the note Vasili - those Chucksters are so easy not to notice on the used rack - yet remain one of the best. You probably have the most extensive experience with the rifle and the .22 mag. Always nice to hear from the Lucky Country! All the best.
I have a rifle that shoots cheap ammo better than the expensive stuff. That is not scientific but it is my experience. Great video, Mossberg sales are up!
I have a Marlin 22lr that'll shoot 1/4" groups at 50yds using cheap CCI ammo. I have a 12x bushnell on her
........the outside diameter of your bullets most likely was not entered in to the multitude of variables to consider
what type of scope rings are you going with
GREAT video BUTT..... on the semi auto you never mentioned the ACTUAL name or model... just that it was Czech.
Is it the 512???? What year approx???
Thanks for a great vid. Have you tried the Henry Pump or Savage semi auto in 22 mag???
Hi - sorry about that - I think that was a PPK BRNO; I only shot the Henry at the range and I have the Savage in .17 HMR - the one with the delayed blow back. The Henry had a very slick action; I think and aluminum receiver. The Savage runs perfectly and was very accurate. Sorry I don't know more about these.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns You're GREAT!!! Your honest and humble while being very knowledgeable is refreshing in firearm video makers!!!
Thank you so much for your reply!!!
Beautiful rifles. Hopefully you've been able to get your hands on an HK 300.
I bought a Mossberg 640K for $25, from a guy in the parking lot, after the pawn shop wouldn't give him anything, because the rifle was so gummed up the bolt would barely cycle. I cleaned up the action, sanded and oiled the stock, and now it is again an attractive, and accurate rifle.
That is the kind of thing I did many times - always great bringing something back to working.
. When i was a kid (about a hundred years ago) I could hit a tin can out at 200 yards, all day / with my Mossburg. (and it wasnt an expensive rifle either) Thanks again.
Great rifle in the hands of a great shot.
I bought a Chuckster in a pawnshop missing the clip and after a long search I found one at a gunshop for $90 so I passed and fount two from a gunsmith for $90 and bought them both,keep your eyes peeled for the coffin shaped long clips,they're hard to find and spendy when you do.
I've had excellent results with my Marlin 25MN, it's not stock though, trigger work (4 ounce pull), shortened barrell with a resessed crown, and glass bedded! 1/2" @100yds consistently! Just wanted to prove to my buddies that the price of the gun didn't equal how well it would shoot! Enjoyed you video!
Those have to be a great mods - shorter barrel and fine trigger : excellent.
I give the Chuckster two thumbs up as the most accurate ( why ) , it's the only rifle I can shoot skeet with , clay , cans , birds in flight , quarters .. at 100yrds with a scope I can cover 5 shots with a dime . Straight out of the box the most accurate versatile rifle I've ever owned .
Hi Ronnal, That sounds like one of the less accurate Chucksters. ; )
I have to agree with you the 640kB that I have is a truly amazing accurate rifle and out to 150 yards it still produces a very tight group.
I have a Chuckster and it is difficult to put a modern scope on it. But with a straight tube 2.5x, I can easily shoot bottle caps at 125 yards.
i have a "NEW HAVEN" by Mossberg, it was the export model of the chuckster (im in Australia). no checking on the stock and no plastic plate on the bottom of the grip. very very basic model, but other than that its exactly the same.
FYI' the savage 22 mag/17hmr 10 shot magazine fits perfectly!!!
Thank you tims - that is very useful to know - I need an extra mag. I like all Very Very rifles : )
Never afraid of work in the jungle, outback or Northern forest - in a pinch I grab a Very Very and head out for business in the bush. On a different note - from contributors in Australia I learned that some rifles from seem to have different names when imported to the Lucky Country. I wonder why that is. Also, were Winchesters imported as Daisy rifles to Australia. Probably a simple answer - I just don't know. I see the Winchester Daisy web site - maybe a clue. If you have the time to let me know - would be much appreciated. Thank you mate.
I'll try that again I have a Mossberg chuckster I wondered what kind of ammo you find the most accurate out of yours
Hi, CCI is the best, for mine anyway
Thank you! I like your philosophy on firearms value.
Hey my friend how do go to your FB I’m looking for a 410 pump Just c if could help me out
To make your point, I had the Mossberg many years ago. Beautiful gone but I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with. Eventually traded it for a black powder muzzle loader.
I've had guns like that; various kinds. I tried to find bigger barns.
Great vids my friend i love those bolt action rifles
Hello Efrain! Thank you! And yes - those bolts are super. Keep shooting : )
My dad just gave me his mossberg chuckster 22 mag and I love it. I believe when it came out it was $28 brand new. I think it's a pretty nice looking gun myself
Hi Cory - You've got a great dad - that's a fantastic rifle that can serve you for years. All the best to you, your dad and friends and family for 2023! Good shooting too : )
So true. You and your gun. I can swap rifles and my sons nail driver opens up to ok. Try a few SKS's and there it is a very respectable rifle in your hands. Thank you. Happy new year . Cheers
The Marlin bolt .22 mag is a favorite go-to farm gun in my locale of East NC, USA. I'm something of a pariah in my neighborhood as i favor the Marlin 522 semi auto .22 mag.