I recently went through a driver fitting and I was surprised by the results after hitting 6 different drivers in the process. I ended up hitting the Stealth 2 HD significantly better in all categories. The Mizuno ST-Z 230 had the next best results followed closely by the Ping G 430 Max; and nothing else was close. Carry distance and total distance was what separated the Stealth and Mizuno, dispersion was equal. The biggest surprise that for me was that my mishits were significantly better with the Stealth than the Ping, and this is coming from someone who has played Ping drivers mostly. Based on what I liked the looks of best, the TSR 2 was what I thought I would end up with. And to be honest the TM wasn’t even something I was thinking about. But I’ve listened here enough to know to let the fitter do their job. Thanks Mark, as always your content is appreciated.
Tried both at a fitting along with the paradym last week…walked away with a Wilson dynapower carbon head..what a driver..what feel off the face and the flight was piercing..replaces my G425 as normally a ping man but 🤔🤔 I likened the face strike off the Wilson to sticking your nose into a marshmallow and being hit by a howitzer propelling u back out at speed..superb
I recently got fitted into the Ping G430 Max driver. I have to say it was close between that and the TSR3, however dispersion was the winner and the ping was amazing in that respect as well as distance for me. CB 65 Chrome shaft really was the game changer. TM was nice but its all about personal choice when it comes to look and feel.
The Ping is in my bag as I prefer a heavier head, and that's how Ping gets the best MOI numbers. My ping head weights in at 206g. It stops me getting to quick away from the ball, which is a bad habit of mine. I also bought Stealth² as I like to do on course head 2 head, and whilst I preferred the looks and sound of the TM, the Ping was much more consistent in front to back dispersion for me. I play off plus 1 and I reckon over a season the ping will give me better results
I bought stealth. It wasn’t forgiving. I tried stealth 2 plus, it was much more forgiving. I went two days in a row and tried stealth 2 plus versus ping. I saw significant gains of Taylormade over ping. I was hoping ping would win, based on feel. But stealth 2 plus way out performed the ping for me by a lot.
Been to the National fitting centres for Callaway, Titleist and also had full fittings for the Ping and Stealth. For me the TM was a clear winner. Get fit people
The price point is interesting on this as in Australia the Ping is actually constantly 100-150 AUD more expensive and rarely goes on sale where the TaylorMade is constantly on sale 15-25% off retail price, in saying that I'd go ping
Hi Mark, great comparison. Usually you don’t mention price of clubs and it’s funny you do this time. In Australia the Ping equipment is always towards the top end of the price bracket. They don’t follow the TM model of slashing prices within 18 months either when a new product is released.
Had a fitting for cobra Aerojet max and g430 max both great on the day but dispersion on the g430 was much better for me and 280 to 300 yards on g430 on a good day so really happy with it it’ll be in the bag for the future
old ping to new ping I agree with you about not needing to change.... but the stealth 2 is way more forgiving. the stealth was brutal. that said I had a g425 and now I have a g425 on the way... the sound and feel is just way too good!!
TM fitter told me my swing needed improving & that's why none of the drivers tested worked. Went fitted elsewhere fitter found a combo that improved all conditions & left with a G430. The morale of the story, get fitted.
I personally like the matte black of the PING, but truth be told I look the duller sound of the Stealth… It would be a tough decision for me if it came down to both of these. All these drivers are just so good it’s ridiculous.
Mark, I bought the Costco Edge set as I am just getting back into golf after being away for several years due to back surgeries. I figured I could get an entirely new set for the price of the driver for now. I have never had an adjustable driver before, my question is how long until I should start looking that way? Appreciate the content as always.
An adjustable driver is more about dialling in a fitting and there should be no need to adjust after. And getting a recent used driver will perform the same as the new stuff so get fitted and buy used based on recommended specs, if finances allow.
Switched from the Titleist TSI3 to the Ping 430Max for a little bit of help on mishit shots and surprisingly the spin numbers are not that high. Maybe I should continue to steer clear of low spinning heads.
I tried every new driver at a Club Champion fitting with many different shaft combinations. The winner for me was the Ping 340 max 10.5 with a Mitsubishi vanquish R2 shaft. The combination is extremely forgiving and long. The stealth came in a very close second but wasn't as forgiven for me. All for the insane price of around $970.00.
The Ping is more draw bias, having owned it for the last few months. A lot of people think a Max is some magic wand of forgiveness. It's not. It will still exaggerate a poor face to path relationship like other drivers, but what I found was that people shouting that it's higher MOI made me lazy on the tee, and my strike went to pot. I'd have kept it, if it wasn't so hard to fade, so traded it for the LST, which is the opposite of the Max but sharpens the concentration element
The Ping G430 Max was the driver for me. It's no longer than my Sim 2 but the dispersion was better. I really don't like the "flat" sound from carbon-faced drivers. That metallic sound of the Ping gives plenty of feedback and sounds sweetest when you catch it in the middle.
Have the 425 max. I don’t see a reason to change to the 430. The 425 noise doesn’t bother me and I’ve not needed to touch the settings since I was fitted for it. I had a Cobra Speedzone originally and made the mistake of changing to the Radspeed. Got rid of that for the 425 and sticking.
Stealth is for people who wear white belts and spend a little to much on hair products. Ping is for people slightly overweight with an electric trolley.
@@magmatt It doesn't matter how good I'am or how bad you are I will bet you as much as you want you beat me! Just name a time and a place. You will recognise me, I'm slightly overweight with an electric trolley.
Bilbo I think you shit the bed I’ve hit and played nearly every driver on the market and there’s never more than a couple of yards difference in any of them
I don’t rate the quality is there with the TaylorMade. My carbon crown 👑came off and it’s plastic looking and cheap. The ping is forgiving and built to last.
I recently went through a driver fitting and I was surprised by the results after hitting 6 different drivers in the process. I ended up hitting the Stealth 2 HD significantly better in all categories. The Mizuno ST-Z 230 had the next best results followed closely by the Ping G 430 Max; and nothing else was close. Carry distance and total distance was what separated the Stealth and Mizuno, dispersion was equal. The biggest surprise that for me was that my mishits were significantly better with the Stealth than the Ping, and this is coming from someone who has played Ping drivers mostly. Based on what I liked the looks of best, the TSR 2 was what I thought I would end up with. And to be honest the TM wasn’t even something I was thinking about. But I’ve listened here enough to know to let the fitter do their job. Thanks Mark, as always your content is appreciated.
Tried both at a fitting along with the paradym last week…walked away with a Wilson dynapower carbon head..what a driver..what feel off the face and the flight was piercing..replaces my G425 as normally a ping man but 🤔🤔 I likened the face strike off the Wilson to sticking your nose into a marshmallow and being hit by a howitzer propelling u back out at speed..superb
It amazes me how well you are able to articulate concepts and facts through your videos.
Love the Ping g430. I don't like the dull sound of the carbon. I like my Sim max 2 better than the stealth.
I recently got fitted into the Ping G430 Max driver. I have to say it was close between that and the TSR3, however dispersion was the winner and the ping was amazing in that respect as well as distance for me. CB 65 Chrome shaft really was the game changer. TM was nice but its all about personal choice when it comes to look and feel.
The Ping is in my bag as I prefer a heavier head, and that's how Ping gets the best MOI numbers. My ping head weights in at 206g. It stops me getting to quick away from the ball, which is a bad habit of mine. I also bought Stealth² as I like to do on course head 2 head, and whilst I preferred the looks and sound of the TM, the Ping was much more consistent in front to back dispersion for me. I play off plus 1 and I reckon over a season the ping will give me better results
I bought stealth. It wasn’t forgiving. I tried stealth 2 plus, it was much more forgiving. I went two days in a row and tried stealth 2 plus versus ping. I saw significant gains of Taylormade over ping. I was hoping ping would win, based on feel. But stealth 2 plus way out performed the ping for me by a lot.
Been to the National fitting centres for Callaway, Titleist and also had full fittings for the Ping and Stealth. For me the TM was a clear winner. Get fit people
The price point is interesting on this as in Australia the Ping is actually constantly 100-150 AUD more expensive and rarely goes on sale where the TaylorMade is constantly on sale 15-25% off retail price, in saying that I'd go ping
Hi Mark, great comparison. Usually you don’t mention price of clubs and it’s funny you do this time. In Australia the Ping equipment is always towards the top end of the price bracket. They don’t follow the TM model of slashing prices within 18 months either when a new product is released.
Had a fitting for cobra Aerojet max and g430 max both great on the day but dispersion on the g430 was much better for me and 280 to 300 yards on g430 on a good day so really happy with it it’ll be in the bag for the future
I went for a paid fitting and after about an hour of trying drivers I was fitted for the Ping G430 max. Love the driver
old ping to new ping I agree with you about not needing to change.... but the stealth 2 is way more forgiving. the stealth was brutal. that said I had a g425 and now I have a g425 on the way... the sound and feel is just way too good!!
I enjoyed this type of comparison...
It is not just about numbers.
Hope you do more driver comparisons like this.
TM fitter told me my swing needed improving & that's why none of the drivers tested worked. Went fitted elsewhere fitter found a combo that improved all conditions & left with a G430. The morale of the story, get fitted.
I personally like the matte black of the PING, but truth be told I look the duller sound of the Stealth… It would be a tough decision for me if it came down to both of these. All these drivers are just so good it’s ridiculous.
Mark, I bought the Costco Edge set as I am just getting back into golf after being away for several years due to back surgeries. I figured I could get an entirely new set for the price of the driver for now. I have never had an adjustable driver before, my question is how long until I should start looking that way? Appreciate the content as always.
An adjustable driver is more about dialling in a fitting and there should be no need to adjust after. And getting a recent used driver will perform the same as the new stuff so get fitted and buy used based on recommended specs, if finances allow.
Switched from the Titleist TSI3 to the Ping 430Max for a little bit of help on mishit shots and surprisingly the spin numbers are not that high. Maybe I should continue to steer clear of low spinning heads.
I tried every new driver at a Club Champion fitting with many different shaft combinations. The winner for me was the Ping 340 max 10.5 with a Mitsubishi vanquish R2 shaft. The combination is extremely forgiving and long. The stealth came in a very close second but wasn't as forgiven for me. All for the insane price of around $970.00.
Got the g430 lst and it's excellent
The Ping is more draw bias, having owned it for the last few months. A lot of people think a Max is some magic wand of forgiveness. It's not. It will still exaggerate a poor face to path relationship like other drivers, but what I found was that people shouting that it's higher MOI made me lazy on the tee, and my strike went to pot. I'd have kept it, if it wasn't so hard to fade, so traded it for the LST, which is the opposite of the Max but sharpens the concentration element
The Ping G430 Max was the driver for me. It's no longer than my Sim 2 but the dispersion was better. I really don't like the "flat" sound from carbon-faced drivers. That metallic sound of the Ping gives plenty of feedback and sounds sweetest when you catch it in the middle.
Have the 425 max. I don’t see a reason to change to the 430. The 425 noise doesn’t bother me and I’ve not needed to touch the settings since I was fitted for it. I had a Cobra Speedzone originally and made the mistake of changing to the Radspeed. Got rid of that for the 425 and sticking.
Awful sounding club.
@@wdp5617 subjective opinion. The amount of sales suggest enough disagree with you.
@@midhc5072 For sure it’s
Subjective. Out of curiosity, What’s your CHS?
I have the Ping G430 only because I drew John Rahm in my club’s Masters sweepstake and collected it as my prize! Some you win….
6:41 The seam on the stealth looks a bit weird there. I wonder how the quality is and if it will last 10 years.
Umm is it glue showing?
Those "turbulators" are and will forever be a dealbreaker
Mark, these are great videos, but I need me more Muppet tour and Buggy Time vids!
Stealth is for people who wear white belts and spend a little to much on hair products. Ping is for people slightly overweight with an electric trolley.
I love that this is the top comment showing while the video is playing 😂
$1000 says I beat you heads up stroke or match play. Straight up no handicaps
@@magmatt It doesn't matter how good I'am or how bad you are I will bet you as much as you want you beat me! Just name a time and a place. You will recognise me, I'm slightly overweight with an electric trolley.
I feel attacked
😂
Have you heard of the build quality issues with the Stealth 2?
A few but I don’t know if they are real.
Why is it the square drivers didn't work? I'm asking in terms of functionality, as opposed to popularity
It was short and hard to hit straight. 👍
Ping Ordered
Thank goodness my SLDR is still good
The SLDR is the worst driver ever. I've just been so lazy and too cheap to get rid of it. Incredibly unforgiving.
The ping for me went 30_40 yards shorter than all the other drivers which were close. They really shit the bed
Bilbo I think you shit the bed I’ve hit and played nearly every driver on the market and there’s never more than a couple of yards difference in any of them
No Debate
I think if the Ping didn't have those fins/turbulator did you call it? I'd say that's the best looking driver on the market today personally.
I bought the Ping but wish the fins would go away.
Love the look of them personally. To each their own though!
Not interested in the ultimate forgiveness drivers. Can you make some videos for the players drivers?
The Ping is NOT $469. I haven't seen it any cheaper than $560 in the states.
To be fair do you actually need anything more advanced than the M2....just asking for a friend.
Read a review by yourself, no driver came close to TSR 3. For better golfers
I don’t rate the quality is there with the TaylorMade. My carbon crown 👑came off and it’s plastic looking and cheap. The ping is forgiving and built to last.
Oh, this isn't a Rick Shiels video 😕
Thank God
Studio videos are more entertaining with your sidekick & playing some sort of game... Is he still kicking around somewhere? Haha