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Some of the people may dislike this album for its darker tone but as someone like me who is fan of Depeche Mode and Metallica i have no problem with it
Honestly, Alex, I would love it if you reacted to "Real Life" by Magazine. Incredible punk/new wave album that was very unusual for the time. Definitely worth a listen.
This album is technically perfect and mature. Maybe too mature for me. I can't get motived enough to listen to the whole album. And I'm the kind of guy who still listens to Movement from time to time. Go figure.
So this record was made as everyone was waking up from the Factory dream and a decade or so of being out of their heads on every substance under the sun... acid house was fading and reality was setting in... and the band was not getting along... they had worked with Stephen Hague and had great singles success and he came in to referee and stitch together this record, which was largely made without more than one member of the band in the studio at a given time... so its a "comedown" record in every sense and the strongest impression at time of release was one of wistfulness... if you come at it from that perspective, its a gorgeous compact jewel of very well constructed pop songs, and of course Regret is all of their best songs restated in a slightly new way... slag it off if you must, but you may return to it some day and find hidden charms in these lovely, understated songs...
Actually I think that "Get ready" is better than Republic, you should react to that album and pay attention to the base line of 60 miles an hour, and of course Crystal, it is awesome!
@Victor Hernández Así es, aunque saliendo de contexto en cuestión de álbums, canciones que encontramos en substance o recopilados, como Temptation, Ceremony etc, son aún más grandiosas tanto en instrumental como en letra. lml
Got to agree with Miguel that 'Get Ready' is better. To be honest, 'Crystal' is one of my all time favourite New Order songs and that song literally dragged me back into my emo phase.
Tepid is a good adjective to describe Republic. I did like Regret, World, Liar, and Times Change somewhat but these songs are far from my favorite. Get Ready is in my opinion a more entertaining album, rockier and definitely far more interesting songwriting ideas
The Vinyl version of NO Substance only has the 12" Singles, minus Hurt. The recording of Ceremony featured is the 2nd version with Gillian Gilbert as part of the band. Temptation and Confusion were recorded for the album, and some of the mixes for other songs were cut short as well. The CD release however, has the second disc featuring the B sides, as well as the 7" only single Procession, and the 12" single Hurt.
I love Republic but I still found your reaction interesting. I actually felt bad for you! I have the impression from past videos you're more a rock guy and that Republic leans towards dark dance music on New Order's spectrum, therefore, I wasn't surprised you didn't like it. If you ever listen to it again, I'd say take particular notice of the lyrics, as they're pretty good, and can be interpreted as chronicling the end of New Order and their record company...
As a huge new order fan I have to admit you’re spot on with your review of Republic. Hooky is wrong. Plenty of gems in the subsequent album. I’m interested to hear you review Music Complete sans Hooky.
A few thoughts on this album. Aside from "Regret," "Liar" is definitely one of the stand-out tracks for me, as well. The chorus is catchy and I like Sumner's rather snarky lyrics: Were you abandoned in your youth, Because if not, you will be soon. The album version of "World" is okay, but I much prefer the 7" Perfecto Mix, as it has a lot more energy (the 12" mix is way too long). "Everyone Everywhere" has some beautiful and rather contemplative elements to it, which I appreciate. But the album version is nothing compared to their live performance of it in Reading '93. If you get a chance I recommend you listen to that version of it and see if it doesn't breathe some new life into the song. "Spooky" and "Young Offender" are okay, but nothing great. I really like the chorus for "Times Change," but man, Barney really needs to stay away from the rapping. Most of the songs at the end I barely remember what they sound like because I almost never listen to them. I almost never listen to this album as a whole, but I do appreciate the precious few gems it has left us. "Get Ready" and "Waiting for the Siren's Call" are both better in my opinion. I may have mentioned this before, but "Sirens" is my favorite New Order album. Probably an unpopular position to hold among fans, but we all have our preferences. Thanks for being willing to put yourself through this reaction for our benefit lol.
Interesting opinions. I've always thought Waiting For The Sirens' Call was underrated. It's got some skippable tracks but the title track is absolutely incredible, it's easily their best song of the 00s and to me it's like a spiritual sequel to Regret which is their best post-80s song. I also think of it as New Order's farewell track as it has the original Joy Division trio of Barney, Hooky and Stephen. Krafty is a fun, retro sounding tune and Turn is one of New Order's better straightforward rockers.
I'm with you on 'Sirens'...never understood why it wasn't that well received, if you like the rockier side of new order I don't see what's not to like. Great songs on it
i cannot dislike the album that brought the world 'Regret' i still remember when that song first came out and my god i loved it soooo much - i was already a huge NO fan however this song spoke to me entirely
Totally agree with your take on 'Republic' aside from 'Regret', the songs are bland. To be honest, this is first time I've heard most of these songs in years, they are that uninspiring (Regret excluded). I go back and listen to every other New Order album, except for Republic. You would like 'Get Ready' the next album, it's far better. Not sure why Peter Hook said 'Regret' was last great New Order song, maybe he said it off the cuff, as 'Crystal' 'Turn My Way' 'Here to Stay" and 'Waiting for Sirens call' are all great songs.
I didn't know "Shopping for khakis at the Gap in 1993" had a soundtrack. Don't let any interesting melodies get on that album, we want people focused on the merchandise.
Where New Order went off the rails was when Barney decided he was going to be a serious song writer. What was great about earlier New Order was that they tore up the rulebook, but when they started following the rules instead they lost what made them special.
Whenever I listen to Republic once I get past the singles (the first 3 songs) I find the rest of the album forgettable. There's an overall iciness to it that don't really engage the listener. Regret is an absolute classic though.
apart from regret its really more a 'electronic' album than a new order album barney threw out all the ideas of songs from the rest of the band they brought to make the album.
Never picked up Republic at the time as I felt that whilst Regret was acceptable, it was a move away from their dance/electronic roots and moving more into guitar focused stuff...glad to see on watching this vid that I was right...
IN MY OPINION, THIS ALBUM IS VERY WEAK ALBUM, I WAS VERY DISSAPOPINTED WHEN THIS CAME OUT, I LIKE 2 OR 3 TRACKS, AND I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER THEIR NAMES. :-(
Like you I'd heard unflattering things about Republic before listening to the record. I have to say that, although it's a let down compared to the albums that came before, it has grown on me.
This album gets a lot of hate, but overall its actually quite good. I think there are two issues. First, the album opens with an absolutely perfect modern rock/pop track (Regret)...and then there is the rest of the album, which pales in comparison. Second, not enough of Hooky's epic bass lines.
I think the album is OK in places... Concerning 'Ruined in a Day', yeah, the album version is very boring, but (in my opinion), the K-KLASS REMIX, improves things quite a lot - it basically sounds much more robust, and has atmosphere injected, with the additional electronics.
I thought it was before listening, but after people commented here and when we did our Discord discussion of the band, I found many New Order fans that like it.
Republic is a fantastic LP. At the time it was great to see them return as New Order. We’d seen them all part ways to do their own stuff, Hooky with Revenge, Bernard with Electronic and Stephen and Gillian as The Other Two. So to see all of them back together was great and I felt they delivered a strong LP with Republic. It must also have been a strange time for them with Factory collapsing, the Hacienda hitting hard times and things beginning to fall apart. Also, what I’ve always found being a fan is that they often trod a fine line between being dance/electronic and guitar rock. They are often seen as one of the first bands to mix these genres. I’ve always preferred their electronic sound and on many tracks just wish hooky would pipe down with the porno guitar playing. This is why my favourite tracks see Hooks sound take a backseat. When they did do their solo projects I personally found Hooks to be the weakest, Revenge, Monaco and even worse 3Base prove my point. Where as Electronic was a brilliant LP and I even love listening to Gillian sing on The Other Twos record. Hook is a great player, but I don’t miss him. I think he’s also into his legacy and living in the past. However, I’m just not into the rock sound and would rather listen to Technique or Republic than Low-life or Brotherhood any day. Fine Time, Mr Disco and Vanishing Point hit my spot every time, as do Regret, Special and Ruined In A Day.
Republic is boring. Try to listen to it in the background when you’re tired and doing things you need to do. Then it’s great. For me even better than PC&L if I’m in the mood. Technique, Brotherhood, Low-Life, Get Ready and Music Complete are always far better, but Republic is at a solid no. 6 when I feel for it. I dislike rap in general, but like to hear Bernards rap... Idk why, but Bernard will always be my favorite rapper!
As a Joy Division devotee, I have nothing but love for them marching on as New Order. Musically, they have some amazing songs…but….BUT….Bernard Sumner. Find the note. Find the note. His thin and keyless voice just kills everything for me. It’s amazing how many people just sit and listen without complaint. He can’t carry a note and is all over the place, pitch wise. The music. The bass. The drums…fantastic so many times…then Bernard comes in…
Surely wrong album to choose for that comment! Republic is probably the best Bernard ever sounded. His vocals were noticeably better from the late 1980s onwards.
Would love to see what youd say about The Money Store by Death Grips, To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar (if you somehow havent listened to that yet lol) and Feedbacker by Boris!
new order put great 12” singles not so great albums, plus you pick the less good one. “Regret” is a nice single... from that era... i also like “special” / is good to know you are making a joy division video. / Also like your treasure CT video.
Alex Haitz is not making his own options. He isn’t making his own option here. He’s basing a lot of his options on why other people say it isn’t that good of an album. He doesn’t want the fans who love to think he doesn’t like it as much as they do. You’d have to be blind to see that he when into this album with the idea it is’s New Order’s worst album to date.
While I'd agreeI agree some of the songs are weak, the main issue with this album is the production style that neutered otherwise pretty good songs. A good exemple of this is 'Everyone, Everywhere" Just watch the live version of It. th-cam.com/video/2KO0zeP6ftY/w-d-xo.html
I get your point in the general sense about the album being almost MOR and not having aged well - but 'Liar' is barely B-side material and easily one of the worst half dozen New Order songs ever recorded. Not sure how you can see it as a standout here. Republic makes the mistake of falling between several tools and going down the path of least resistance - as a result it ends up sounding like a band who aren't all that but were trying to copy the New Order sound. It ends up trying to be a bit of everything but ultimately being nothing. Conversely I think 'Special' is one of the better tracks here but...would it get on PCR, Low Life or Technique? Just barely I'd say...
Regret is definitely the highlight of REPUBLIC, which is a shame, as its only a mediocre song. Overall the album is pretty mediocre - and its sandwiched between the likes of TECHNIQUE and GET READY, so really it doesn't stand a chance of being noticed.
Peter Hook said "Regret" was the last TRUE New Order song, not the last good one. Even still, and I'm in the minority...I don't like it that much. All of Republic is terrible. It only pushed the band further into commercial territory, to very little artistic benefit. The worst part? Even as early as Brotherhood, Bernard was fighting Peter over the volume of his bass. The other band members felt Peter prioritized himself too much on PC&L and Low-Life, since he helped mix all the early NO records. But a big part of what made those records and Joy Division great are the bass lines. Melody is one of the biggest parts of pop songs, and what instruments plays the melody in these bands? The bass!! Peter is too quiet on Technique and almost completely underutilized on Republic, ruining the records almost singlehandedly. Nevermind the fact Bernard is obviously phoning it in on Republic, clearly wanting to get to Electronic ASAP.
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This is an incredibly bland album that I pretend doesn't exist. Have a listen (maybe not as a reaction video) to the 3 Electronic albums, which are all pretty good.
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Republic is one of my favorite full NO albums.
I highly recommend Peter Hook's memoirs of the New Order years. He's a surprisingly good storyteller and there's a lot to tell.
Some of the people may dislike this album for its darker tone but as someone like me who is fan of Depeche Mode and Metallica i have no problem with it
Wtf I think the album is quite good.
Spot on with this review. Most of the album is uninspired & sounds like Bernard was just going through the motions.
Honestly, Alex, I would love it if you reacted to "Real Life" by Magazine. Incredible punk/new wave album that was very unusual for the time. Definitely worth a listen.
You should try to react to electronic if you have the chance lol there’s more of that sweet sweet Bernard rap. Plus Johnny Marr is always cool
The first Electronic album is great!
I’ve always seen it as the key to liking Republic...
@@sleipboerd exactly! altough I did like it a lot at first listen, listening to Electronic helped me warm up to it even more, especially Times Change
@@lazerblu dude, ALL of them are good. I LOVE electronic.
This album is technically perfect and mature. Maybe too mature for me. I can't get motived enough to listen to the whole album. And I'm the kind of guy who still listens to Movement from time to time. Go figure.
So this record was made as everyone was waking up from the Factory dream and a decade or so of being out of their heads on every substance under the sun... acid house was fading and reality was setting in... and the band was not getting along... they had worked with Stephen Hague and had great singles success and he came in to referee and stitch together this record, which was largely made without more than one member of the band in the studio at a given time... so its a "comedown" record in every sense and the strongest impression at time of release was one of wistfulness... if you come at it from that perspective, its a gorgeous compact jewel of very well constructed pop songs, and of course Regret is all of their best songs restated in a slightly new way... slag it off if you must, but you may return to it some day and find hidden charms in these lovely, understated songs...
Good analysis Alex. Would love to hear your take on Temptation, not the remix on Substance but the 7” version or the recent live versions.
Actually I think that "Get ready" is better than Republic, you should react to that album and pay attention to the base line of 60 miles an hour, and of course Crystal, it is awesome!
Miguel Eduardo MB you forgot to mention Primitive Notion.
@Victor Hernández Así es, aunque saliendo de contexto en cuestión de álbums, canciones que encontramos en substance o recopilados, como Temptation, Ceremony etc, son aún más grandiosas tanto en instrumental como en letra. lml
Got to agree with Miguel that 'Get Ready' is better. To be honest, 'Crystal' is one of my all time favourite New Order songs and that song literally dragged me back into my emo phase.
Tepid is a good adjective to describe Republic. I did like Regret, World, Liar, and Times Change somewhat but these songs are far from my favorite. Get Ready is in my opinion a more entertaining album, rockier and definitely far more interesting songwriting ideas
The Vinyl version of NO Substance only has the 12" Singles, minus Hurt. The recording of Ceremony featured is the 2nd version with Gillian Gilbert as part of the band. Temptation and Confusion were recorded for the album, and some of the mixes for other songs were cut short as well. The CD release however, has the second disc featuring the B sides, as well as the 7" only single Procession, and the 12" single Hurt.
I love Republic but I still found your reaction interesting. I actually felt bad for you! I have the impression from past videos you're more a rock guy and that Republic leans towards dark dance music on New Order's spectrum, therefore, I wasn't surprised you didn't like it. If you ever listen to it again, I'd say take particular notice of the lyrics, as they're pretty good, and can be interpreted as chronicling the end of New Order and their record company...
secretsymphony im a big fan of The Cure and Depeche Mode so listening to this album was no issue . I really like Republic
@@derrick180 Same for me. Im a fan of depeche mode too and Metallica so i dont have problem with the dark tone.
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As a huge new order fan I have to admit you’re spot on with your review of Republic. Hooky is wrong. Plenty of gems in the subsequent album. I’m interested to hear you review Music Complete sans Hooky.
A few thoughts on this album. Aside from "Regret," "Liar" is definitely one of the stand-out tracks for me, as well. The chorus is catchy and I like Sumner's rather snarky lyrics: Were you abandoned in your youth, Because if not, you will be soon. The album version of "World" is okay, but I much prefer the 7" Perfecto Mix, as it has a lot more energy (the 12" mix is way too long). "Everyone Everywhere" has some beautiful and rather contemplative elements to it, which I appreciate. But the album version is nothing compared to their live performance of it in Reading '93. If you get a chance I recommend you listen to that version of it and see if it doesn't breathe some new life into the song. "Spooky" and "Young Offender" are okay, but nothing great. I really like the chorus for "Times Change," but man, Barney really needs to stay away from the rapping. Most of the songs at the end I barely remember what they sound like because I almost never listen to them. I almost never listen to this album as a whole, but I do appreciate the precious few gems it has left us.
"Get Ready" and "Waiting for the Siren's Call" are both better in my opinion. I may have mentioned this before, but "Sirens" is my favorite New Order album. Probably an unpopular position to hold among fans, but we all have our preferences. Thanks for being willing to put yourself through this reaction for our benefit lol.
Interesting opinions. I've always thought Waiting For The Sirens' Call was underrated. It's got some skippable tracks but the title track is absolutely incredible, it's easily their best song of the 00s and to me it's like a spiritual sequel to Regret which is their best post-80s song. I also think of it as New Order's farewell track as it has the original Joy Division trio of Barney, Hooky and Stephen. Krafty is a fun, retro sounding tune and Turn is one of New Order's better straightforward rockers.
I'm with you on 'Sirens'...never understood why it wasn't that well received, if you like the rockier side of new order I don't see what's not to like. Great songs on it
i cannot dislike the album that brought the world 'Regret' i still remember when that song first came out and my god i loved it soooo much - i was already a huge NO fan however this song spoke to me entirely
Can someone tell me if the burning homes from NO Republic cover page are the wildfires in California or the riots in 1992 in LA?
Totally agree with your take on 'Republic' aside from 'Regret', the songs are bland. To be honest, this is first time I've heard most of these songs in years, they are that uninspiring (Regret excluded).
I go back and listen to every other New Order album, except for Republic. You would like 'Get Ready' the next album, it's far better. Not sure why Peter Hook said 'Regret' was last great New Order song, maybe he said it off the cuff, as 'Crystal' 'Turn My Way' 'Here to Stay" and 'Waiting for Sirens call' are all great songs.
I love this album
So do I
Me too!
me too. Special is an underrate song in this album
I love this album too. The sound always reminded me of growing up in the 90s.
I didn't know "Shopping for khakis at the Gap in 1993" had a soundtrack.
Don't let any interesting melodies get on that album, we want people focused on the merchandise.
Love this album
At least his singing Is Better than their older albums lol
Where New Order went off the rails was when Barney decided he was going to be a serious song writer. What was great about earlier New Order was that they tore up the rulebook, but when they started following the rules instead they lost what made them special.
Whenever I listen to Republic once I get past the singles (the first 3 songs) I find the rest of the album forgettable. There's an overall iciness to it that don't really engage the listener. Regret is an absolute classic though.
apart from regret its really more a 'electronic' album than a new order album
barney threw out all the ideas of songs from the rest of the band they brought to make the album.
2 minutes in and I know I’ll never agree. No way does Brotherhood ever come before Technique.
I must admit i love New Order but ive never made it all the way through this album, its really hard work
Never picked up Republic at the time as I felt that whilst Regret was acceptable, it was a move away from their dance/electronic roots and moving more into guitar focused stuff...glad to see on watching this vid that I was right...
IN MY OPINION, THIS ALBUM IS VERY WEAK ALBUM, I WAS VERY DISSAPOPINTED WHEN THIS CAME OUT, I LIKE 2 OR 3 TRACKS, AND I REALLY DON'T REMEMBER THEIR NAMES. :-(
Like you I'd heard unflattering things about Republic before listening to the record. I have to say that, although it's a let down compared to the albums that came before, it has grown on me.
15:39 is what it sounds like when I review music
This album gets a lot of hate, but overall its actually quite good. I think there are two issues. First, the album opens with an absolutely perfect modern rock/pop track (Regret)...and then there is the rest of the album, which pales in comparison. Second, not enough of Hooky's epic bass lines.
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I think the album is OK in places... Concerning 'Ruined in a Day', yeah, the album version is very boring, but (in my opinion), the K-KLASS REMIX, improves things quite a lot - it basically sounds much more robust, and has atmosphere injected, with the additional electronics.
Never knew this album was so despised. I quite enjoy it.
I thought it was before listening, but after people commented here and when we did our Discord discussion of the band, I found many New Order fans that like it.
Back in the 90s I had a mix tape of soothing songs to help me sleep. Avalanche was on there. Even today whenever I hear it, I want to take a nap :)
This album falls in the exact spot where I put all post 91 Red Hot Chili Pepper's music.
Republic is a fantastic LP. At the time it was great to see them return as New Order. We’d seen them all part ways to do their own stuff, Hooky with Revenge, Bernard with Electronic and Stephen and Gillian as The Other Two. So to see all of them back together was great and I felt they delivered a strong LP with Republic. It must also have been a strange time for them with Factory collapsing, the Hacienda hitting hard times and things beginning to fall apart. Also, what I’ve always found being a fan is that they often trod a fine line between being dance/electronic and guitar rock. They are often seen as one of the first bands to mix these genres. I’ve always preferred their electronic sound and on many tracks just wish hooky would pipe down with the porno guitar playing. This is why my favourite tracks see Hooks sound take a backseat. When they did do their solo projects I personally found Hooks to be the weakest, Revenge, Monaco and even worse 3Base prove my point. Where as Electronic was a brilliant LP and I even love listening to Gillian sing on The Other Twos record. Hook is a great player, but I don’t miss him. I think he’s also into his legacy and living in the past. However, I’m just not into the rock sound and would rather listen to Technique or Republic than Low-life or Brotherhood any day. Fine Time, Mr Disco and Vanishing Point hit my spot every time, as do Regret, Special and Ruined In A Day.
Nah Hook is essential to Joy Division and New Order you're out of your mind
Might not be your favorite, but definitely my favorite new order album
Republic is boring. Try to listen to it in the background when you’re tired and doing things you need to do. Then it’s great. For me even better than PC&L if I’m in the mood. Technique, Brotherhood, Low-Life, Get Ready and Music Complete are always far better, but Republic is at a solid no. 6 when I feel for it.
I dislike rap in general, but like to hear Bernards rap... Idk why, but Bernard will always be my favorite rapper!
Love your uploads. Being a fan since I was 15 (1985), I really hated this album apart from 'Regret'. Still do.
Regret is the only good song on Republic.
As a Joy Division devotee, I have nothing but love for them marching on as New Order. Musically, they have some amazing songs…but….BUT….Bernard Sumner. Find the note. Find the note. His thin and keyless voice just kills everything for me. It’s amazing how many people just sit and listen without complaint. He can’t carry a note and is all over the place, pitch wise. The music. The bass. The drums…fantastic so many times…then Bernard comes in…
Surely wrong album to choose for that comment! Republic is probably the best Bernard ever sounded. His vocals were noticeably better from the late 1980s onwards.
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Para mi es el disco mas POP de New Order, el más accesible, lo he escuchado millones de veces
new order put great 12” singles not so great albums, plus you pick the less good one. “Regret” is a nice single... from that era... i also like “special” / is good to know you are making a joy division video. / Also like your treasure CT video.
Interesting history if you look up "Port Royale Town"
Alex Haitz is not making his own options. He isn’t making his own option here. He’s basing a lot of his options on why other people say it isn’t that good of an album. He doesn’t want the fans who love to think he doesn’t like it as much as they do. You’d have to be blind to see that he when into this album with the idea it is’s New Order’s worst album to date.
I felt the exact way when I bought the CD the day it released. Just was a let down from Technique
Regret is the best song of the 1990s in my opinion, pretty strange how the rest of this album isn’t good.
While I'd agreeI agree some of the songs are weak, the main issue with this album is the production style that neutered otherwise pretty good songs. A good exemple of this is 'Everyone, Everywhere" Just watch the live version of It. th-cam.com/video/2KO0zeP6ftY/w-d-xo.html
I get your point in the general sense about the album being almost MOR and not having aged well - but 'Liar' is barely B-side material and easily one of the worst half dozen New Order songs ever recorded. Not sure how you can see it as a standout here.
Republic makes the mistake of falling between several tools and going down the path of least resistance - as a result it ends up sounding like a band who aren't all that but were trying to copy the New Order sound. It ends up trying to be a bit of everything but ultimately being nothing.
Conversely I think 'Special' is one of the better tracks here but...would it get on PCR, Low Life or Technique? Just barely I'd say...
Did you say "white power" at the end? Why?
Because it sounded absurd.
Main thing about republic is its a new more commercial record label....its a great album. I really like it....except the cover...the cover sucks
Now, you're ok to go to Electronic.
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This LP was a nightmare
Regret is definitely the highlight of REPUBLIC, which is a shame, as its only a mediocre song. Overall the album is pretty mediocre - and its sandwiched between the likes of TECHNIQUE and GET READY, so really it doesn't stand a chance of being noticed.
Peter Hook said "Regret" was the last TRUE New Order song, not the last good one. Even still, and I'm in the minority...I don't like it that much. All of Republic is terrible. It only pushed the band further into commercial territory, to very little artistic benefit. The worst part? Even as early as Brotherhood, Bernard was fighting Peter over the volume of his bass. The other band members felt Peter prioritized himself too much on PC&L and Low-Life, since he helped mix all the early NO records. But a big part of what made those records and Joy Division great are the bass lines. Melody is one of the biggest parts of pop songs, and what instruments plays the melody in these bands? The bass!! Peter is too quiet on Technique and almost completely underutilized on Republic, ruining the records almost singlehandedly. Nevermind the fact Bernard is obviously phoning it in on Republic, clearly wanting to get to Electronic ASAP.
I didn't know that about Bernard making a fuss about the bass volume. Makes a lot of sense in retrospect.
5:10
É um álbum muito bom , mas parece que você não gosta , demonstra desprezo , isso é triste , melhor não reagir a nem um álbum.
You remind me of Krist Noveselic
Clearly you play guitar and dont like dance music really.
Melodies and beats on this album are pretty good. just not as good as other albums.
do bowie albums :D, station to station is the shiiiit
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This is an incredibly bland album that I pretend doesn't exist. Have a listen (maybe not as a reaction video) to the 3 Electronic albums, which are all pretty good.
Republic is boring AF.
I was so disappointed by this album. They should have just released Regret as a single.