The $21,000 Apple Laptop from 1989 - First Apple Laptop - Macintosh Portable
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Its heavy, its thick, its "portable", its Apple's first laptop computer.
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Make an appointment with Apple and see what their genius bar would recommend
Full logic board repair for $50000 with 1 pixel damaged on the screen so another so another $30000. Let's not forget the keyboard has one spec of dust so another $5000 for deep cleaning that. Ooh I almost forgot to mention that this is retro tech and our first ever laptop so another $35000 for that.
@@Emobullymaguire sounds about accurate lol
@@h0rze423 lol
@@Emobullymaguire Apple cleaning a keyboard?? Never. Replaces outright. :P
@@cybercat1531 oh yeah I forgot. We are going to e replace your keyboard with an extremely durable polycarbonate with a beautiful and luscious black finish with the particular letters intricately etched on to the key right at its center. Also, our ribbons which are present underneath the keys are a slightly different and more elegant shade of color than which other companies primarily use. Due to this we feel entitled to receive at least $50000 for our hard work.
PS: the polycarbonate in question is plastic.
Honestly, 700 Australian Dollars for a barely sold product from 30 years ago that started on what now converts to over $21,000 is one heck of a deal
Nowadays you can find Mac Portables for less than that, seems like he slightly overpaid
@@metromodernism I... I meant as a collector's item...
Who would buy this for daily use in 2021...
@@cuentaeliminada7176 I know that, i’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make here. He overpaid for his Mac Portable because they usually go for much less, I didn’t mention anything about it being a main computer.
Also he said $520 US, not Australian
@@cuentaeliminada7176 try again
these old laptops fascinate me, great to see how portable looked 32 years ago.
same goes for TVs, death used to be a risk when moving one them around lol.
and now I can just one arm carry my 43inch TV
The interrupt switch is actually intended for developers. If you press it while the system is booting up, you’ll get a Sad Mac.
The important point is that all Macs up till the iMac had the reset and interrupt buttons, so no, the Mac Portable wasn’t special. My PowerMac 9500 has both for example. Pretty sure my Beige G3 does too.
@@memsom I’ll mention the PCI PowerMacs including the 9500 do not have a sad Mac, and the only way to cause the crash sound is if there is a genuine hardware issue (eg no RAM).
that must of been a good prank back then 😈💾
@@memsom My G4 Cube had one
specifically it'll get you a sad mac because the system is supposed to set up the address in the vector table that the 68k uses upon that interrupt to jump to, with it just pointing to a routine that displays a test sad mac screen by default
The nicest thing about that era Apple Product were the user manuals, they were well designed and were in themselves a collectable item
It’s amazing how technology has changed over the years and how things are a lot smaller. only for collectors now
Enjoying your videos 😊
With Apple it was always a work of art in presentation.
he thicc.(the laptop not Hugh :D)
Yes I stole it from Mrwhosetheboss (unboxing the forgotten samsung phone, 0:19)
The laptop pretty thick, but Hugh ain't too bad either
Oof
lets be real hugh probably a whole snack
I'll give you a hint that will solve all of your issues with this laptop
capacitors
yes shocking
Lol
I get it!
I love watching your videos at work keep up the great work much love!!!!
Yeeeaaahh Me too
Do your job
-Error screen- "sad mac icon"
def not first but ik it’s gonna be good
The hard drive is dying 100%. It is impossible to find a working model of such hdd
At least, you can find alternatives, like SD2SCSI for compact Macs.
You could try soldering some connections in the battery tray inside the laptop and power it with a bench power supply. This might help deliver constant voltage and power to those finicky electronics :)
And also recap it.
Recap PSU
Ahhh, the good old days, when you could easily break down and repair a computer
You can still do that as long as you dont have an apple computer
@@pegg5404 eh... hardly. even many new windows laptops are barely upgradeable anymore
Great video! My first Mac was a Mac Plus. I've seen a 512 Mac before, but I've never seen the 89 Laptop - it's really interesting! When I was teaching, we had 10 Mac Plus computers connected with LocalTalk to an ImageWriter II printer with a network card in it. Those were the days! Thanks for the trip down memory lane. :)
I love the rainbow apple logo!
Damn, that Macbook and Sd card comparison looks as if we are using Sorcery for our products now.
This is so true
Facts, like imagine time traveling back and showing a computer a nerd the SD card💀
Look into how SSDs work. We kinda _are_ using sorcery.
Woowowow this is the laptop that I first wanted to buy.
it had a GUI?! it's so smooth! Please do more videos on this amazing relic!
I mean it's a full 68k based Mac
Calling this a "laptop" is a stretch. I sure wouldn't want to use this on my lap! Great machines though if you can get them working!
Macintosh Portable,name for a reason
I’d use it, looks amazing
Well you can’t expect to have a MacBook Air on your lap in 1989..
back then, laptop's are called portables
they aren't light nowadays, but they are lighter, smaller than your traditional BASIC/MS-DOS computer
portable's main goal is to be small so it would be easy enough to travel with.
its just a more portable computer, you don't have to plug in as many cables and stuff, its like an all in one including the keyboard and mouse.
Something about old tech in general is so mesmerizing for some reason
the power of nostalgia
Rolling Stones earn tons of money thanks to that
Would absolutely love to see a full restoration video on this, maybe with the updated hard drive and battery so that you can do a full OS reinstall. Keep up the great content!
Oh those bombs popping all the time forcing you to reset and obviousy losing all your work!
Looking for a full restoration of this behemoth! 😊
Those clicks keys though…made me smile.
My dad used one from the college he taught at in 1990. I must have been the first person in my school to do some design work homework on a portable computer!
So let me explain the drawback with the Macintosh portable is the Macintosh portable has no stop charge feature what that means is that the battery won’t stop charging once it’s full causing the battery to explode remove the battery before it goes boom
As long as the charging current is below a certain value, both Ni-Cd as well as Ni-MH will just get warm, without causing further damage.
@@graealex thats not it that laptop was stopped being made because the battery explodes the charging circuit doesnt stop charging the battery when the battery is fully charged it continues to charge the battery until it explodes
@@johnDingoFoxVelocity But the the reason is that the charging voltage is too high, which in lead acid batteries leads to electrolysis, with the hydrogen produced being explosive. But continually charging lead acid batteries is normal practice in cars for decades, without risk of explosion.
@@graealex Correct because the circuit tells the battery to except a charge then when the battery is full the charger stops charging the battery until the battery is drained this is how a normal charging system works in this laptop it doesn’t do this it continues to feed high voltage into the battery causing the battery to explode there is tons of documentation online about this specific model of Apple laptop There’s a reason why Apple stop making it because it exploded
@@johnDingoFoxVelocity That's how a modern lithium charger works, but in the past, it was enough to put a current of 0.1C in, and the battery would simply not accept any more charge after it is full, and instead just dissipate the energy as heat. That's done with a simple LM317 constant current source. I'm not sure what the reason for the failure is with this specific laptop, but continually charging a battery has been the default mode of operation for decades and doesn't indicate a faulty charger.
3:10 but if the device dosen t have power button, how did u restarted it?
Yup, agree with you.
It has a reset button
@@TechHowden You are right, now I saw that the laptop has a reset button
i accidentally bricked a samsung galaxy j2pro and i fixed it today and im so confused
im going to try and put an ios on it
9:01 nice supercheap card
It’s amazing how the OS is instantly recognisable as Apple 🍎 and that the look and layout hasn’t changed much!
7:22 probably that is playing a role of CMOS battery
I always wanted one of these. Looking straight on the screen was amazingly clear compared to other things at the time. I remember in 1990 I was lucky enough to go to watch the Commonwealth Games in Auckland and at the swimming event a Journalist had one of these sitting right in front of me. I was spellbound at the time on how clear the screen was. It was super rare even back then due to the price. Journalism at least paid something back then!
If apple did this now......”ONLY APPLE BATTERY WORKS AND BATTERIES SOLD SEPARATELY”😂
Lol
Hahha funny 😐
Amazing Videos! Keep up the amazing work!
I love this look at some forgotten history of technology. I have limited experience with a Mac (just in the computer lab at university), but I dimly recall this system from coverage in Byte magazine. I hope you will eventually be able to get it working -- and produce a follow-up video.
Remove the rechargeable battery they explode
Hughs next video includes an explosion 💥
hugh then: fix pc ok ok
hugh now: pc temporary. *apple is eternal.*
Replace a lithium battery in it a acid battery needs to be charged every 6 months and are verry dangerous, and contain distilled water that needs to be refilled
would be interesting to see you bring this to the apple store
How are you supposed to put this on your lap?
my leg will be crushed😂
It doesnt, it puts you on its lap
@@oOblackeaglleOo 😂
This project will be the ultimate test to Mr. Jeffrey’s YT career. If he succeeds, he will be remembered as those prestigious and professional TH-camrs like Adrian’ Digital Basement and Louis Rossmann. If he fails, he will be just like “those people”, like that kid who made the fake rusted BMW restoration video, Jerry Rig Everything, and Jayztwocent’s repair videos, which are an utter joke.
Huh? You made horrible points and liked ur comments on 4 account
@@unowastaken3903 lol I don't have 4 accounts. If that's April fools for me than good for you. Anyway, what I meant was that If he succeed, he will be praised. If he fails, it might damage his reputation, because fixing old computers is a whole new level from replacing broken screens off of phones.
ok...
Y’know those last two content creators you just mentioned have a fairly good reputation.
@@Tropicality. We are entertained by their personality, not the skill. I’m sure we can agree Hugh is more focused on the latter.
My dad’s coworker had one. It wasn’t impressive to me in the day. It just seemed odd. The PowerBook 100 however was mind blowing. I remember loving the compact Macs, they were just so well designed.
Please do a video on retro-fitting a new battery! I have yet to find a goid video on TH-cam that shows tou how to do it
That hard drive sounds disgracefully old, and, I just generally do not like the sound of it. Also, when you’re watching on a device that can fit inside this laptop, literally, and that has 128 gigs of storage, four gigs of RAM, and, a six core CPU! iPhone 12!
How odd the first apple laptop came out the year I was born and I've just started saving for a Mac laptop
Can it run classic Doom and Duke Nukem 3D?
You should take it to an apple store to get ir fixed, that would make a funny video
Literally the best thing about this laptop (although I wouldn’t want to put it on my lap at 7 kilos) is, in my opinion, the keyboard. Current laptop keyboards can’t come close to that as far as I’m concerned.
I’ve never seen such a close look at one of these! Awesome. Seems like they used the same keyboard font until the mid 2000’s (my 2006 iMac looked almost identical).
I kinda love that font. It's so retro
It is easier and cheaper to exchange for a new lead acid battery. At that rating, they usually die after 1-2 years. Get some good branded battery than Chinese cheap ones. You can find a local manufacturer for that. If at all that becomes dead, they have special chargers that can trickle chargeand bring back life.
Hey, I don’t know if this is true with all Macintosh portables, but around 1 year ago I had a go at using one of these boys. It was so horrible to use, and apparently this model was so bad yet so expensive that it crashed every 25 seconds.
this really stretches the definition of a "lap"
Wow what a crap does not even work. From a recylcer you said? Maybe you can send it back if you are lucky and he can finish his job.
Make the keyboard a seperate part and sell it for like 200$ I would buy it.
The clean sagittarius opportunely complain because arm philly trick as a profuse thumb. tricky, scared mustard
Watching this on my hackintosh. Oh how times have changed.
What if the capacitors were socketed so you just pull them out and place in new ones
I guess the most unreliable part of this is the SCSI hard drive. You should try to replace it.
watching this on my 2021 macbook pro. this really just shows how far apple has come and this also made me realize that apple gets less credit for their newer laptops than they actually deserve. wow.
i love how it says "good night" when it dies
🤪😛🤣 I'll bet it's a pairing issue with the replacement battery. That's what's causing it to crash. 🤣😛🤪
Macintosh Portable
Didn't knew this one existed and now you're trying to fix it somehow. Can't wait for more!
My first memories of an Apple product was my grandma's Macintosh Apple IIGS and playing various MS-DOS games on it. Damn, those were some experiences...
You are making all laptops iPhones unavailable from eBay etc
Clone that HDD before it dies for good
A whopping 1 megabyte RAM!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The tiny storage/RAM of vintage computers is fascinating,and hilarious !
Great video, amazing to see how the technology has evolved over the years
I’ll pay €200 for the multi coloured sticker
Can you do videos turning these retro machines into modern ones?
For the battery, I happen to work at a battery store, and while that battery would technically work it was definitely not the right one for longevity. You’re going to want a 6v 5ah DEEP CYCLE battery, that way it can handle being used by the laptop. The PowerSonic one you have is actually something we sell, but that is a float battery, simply used for backup power and not meant to be the primary battery for its application. I can try to get my hands on one and send it to you, let me know.
Would be great to see a recap, a battery replacement and a hard drive replacement.
That retrobrite job though - its perfect.
I have some digital magnetic core memory that blows me away when I compare it to any type of modern memory let alone micro sd cards. I always look forward to your exploration, deconstruction and repair, Cheers
I just noticed that 6V battery is the same size and capacity as the type required for my 1984 Tomy Omnibot
Why don’t install macOS big sur
L.O.L
Imagine playing gta 5 or cyberpunk in it!
Could be bad caps probably, it's very problematic on the old Powerbook 100 series
I'm confused. It's heavy and thick at Sametime. Its kinda weird.
0:38 you just lost your accent for 1 second
Lead acid inside laptop? Old tech was interesting
Why not just attach a bench power supply to the battery terminals and see if it fixes the issue?
It’s a portable desktop 🤣
So for your Macintosh portable computer if the battery in the computer is 100% dead the computer will not boot or have problems building as it pulls from the battery in the charger as it wasn't made very well the electronics and the side weren't designed very well to either just pull from the power cable or just pull from the battery so it does a little bit of both and with an older hard drive it creates issues if the computer has not been powered on in a while so I'd recommend get a new battery and I would also recommend charging it before use a and then taking out that CMOS battery and also put like a SANDisk SD a 2 GB
THE caps lock and the ctrl key is swapped
Cool Video
Insert generic “first time I was this early” comment here
Imagine gaming on that Macintosh...
That keyboard is alps SKCM salmon which are very nice switches that are not being made anymore.
Too noisy perhaps 🙉
Please take it into an apple store, maybe they will replace it for a new laptop xD
Nice video Hugh Jeffery you have inspired me to start my own repair business
Great discussion .. I often ask myself, why are we still using spinning HDD's in the 21st century? .. even they seem archaic.
Hard drives are cheaper to produce than SSDs.
Looking forward to the continuing saga. Could end up being a movie length feature😀
Bra how did you get one that is so rare.
This era of Apple products used Motorola 680x0 processors. The same as used in things like washing machines. I've used macs since then. These chips were terrible, then the IBM PPC chips that were just as bad, totally inappropriate choice. Massive improvement with Intel X86 next. Then these became useless due to thermal throttling. Finally, in 2020, they got it right with the M1. Only took 40+ years and tens of billions.
So potentially, the power supply could be so old that it’s not able to provide much power. My PowerBook 170 power adapter worked kind of but eventually it died and so I opened it up and recapped it. But opening these power supplies can be very difficult so it’s actually a good idea to buy a charger such as one for a slightly newer PowerBook which are the same voltage but with current at 2-3a and use that to have a more stable flow of electricity or even solder the original cable onto a generic 7.5v charger with 1.5a or more of current. I believe more current shouldn’t cause a problem because current depends on the resistance of a circuit and how much it can pull. For the battery, being a 6 volt lead acid means the max charge is probably around 7.2v or so but you’re have to try probing the 2 contact points with a multimeter to know for sure. In any case, a typical lithium ion battery wouldn’t work as the max voltage on those is 4.2v per cell which no combination would get close to that. You could replace it with another lead acid such as a sealed lead acid battery which would make the most sense and you could even buy the same cells used to make the original battery to make something as stock as possible which would be 3x EnerSys Cyclon 2V 5ah cells, though I’d imagine you could get more capacity with an SLA that doesn’t use the same jelly roll style cells such as the ones used for an uninterrupted power supply (UPS). Though I don’t know the dimensions of the portable’s battery so it would take some measurements to find out what size of battery would fit. The one that was in there doesn’t seem to be the largest so that could do with an upgrade. Technically, a lithium iron phosphate battery with 2 cells in a series would work because the max voltage for those are 3.6v per cell. But I’m not sure where those could be found and in what sizes but those have really good capacity. The thing that could really help this machine is to change the original hard drive to a SCSI to SD card or compact flash adapter. It would also make the machine much lighter AND you could even have enough space to install a second floppy drive since the connectors are all present in any configuration. But having something that’s not a 32 year old hard drive would certainly rule out a lot of problems.
...What's a huge effry?
My old man had one of these along with other macs. This and the 'Apple Macintosh' from 84 both weighed the same... The ball mouse was excellent for playing 'Shufflepuck' back in the day and as you've noted, the keyboard felt excellent.
Hello Hugh, what a incredible viedeo! I have one mac Portable too! I purchased it to a friend of mine by 1994, I worked with the Mac and were memorable days, same fail occurs, the original battery was dead, no charge anymore, and I worked just only withe the charger connected since I got it. I am a mac user since 1992 and think is the HDD the fail, but thera are many comments with goos points of view to consider, I am thinking to get out this beautiful piece to check it again and give a second chance, greetings form Mexico.
I know this is really unrelated, but can you revisit the iPhone 12 unrepairable video and see is it’s possible to connect a mmWave antenna to a European or Australian iPhone 12? This is something I have really wondered about since they have a connector for it and it might be something people would really consider doing since the antennas are really cheap (5usd). It would also be useful for longevity since mmWave will probably only become worldwide in a few years and anyone who is holding onto an iPhone 12 might want to keep it for longer. Just commenting my ideas because this is something I would like to see
Ah yes, the Laptop with the Car Battery
Some quick research shows these had a 6V 5AH battery composed of three 2V 5AH cells. Alternatively, using a PowerBook 100 Series AC Adapter will allow you to use the machine without the battery as these run with a higher current at the same voltage.
It’s incredible how the trackpad has changed over the years!