@@viqarkagzi3922 umm a little girl who grew up in a small town under the dark cloud of her big sister committing suicide wouldn’t be predisposed to bullying anyone else. In North Mammon she explained how she concentrated all her energy to not put a finger out of line so she could get out of there through hard work as that was the only way she had.
BossedFished I know I'm gonna sound stupid, but what does that mean? What did he do exactly? I know what hustling means but what am I supposed to imagine in this context?
IIsuperstarII He pretended he didn’t know as much about basketball as he actually does so he could win jets against Morgan and the other people in the betting pool Morgan had going.
In terms of her relationship with Spencer, I never liked how the writers did it. One moment she's nice to him, then when Spencer becomes himself (prattling off excitedly about something he's interested in) JJ shuts him off rudely. Like, the others aren't exactly in the mood for that all of the time and sometimes are like "Reid, not now", but JJ's snappish attitude when she doesn't want to talk to Spence sets me off.
Reid asked her if she was a mean girl because she said she didn't remember who her tormentors were. If you had them, you never forget. ( and given what he knows about her background, he made an assumption)
Sean Gannon yeah but she said she didn't remember who they were. Not that she didn't have any. And Reid knows it's practically impossible to "forget" who your tormentors were. So she either lied so that she could show that she also got bullied for some reason or she lied because she was a tormentor.
@@iisuperstarii7310 that 'tude in her voice as said "even to guys like you" I went to a public high school and every girl that spoke with that kind of snarky attitude belonged to a cliq that made life difficult for the other girls and came across as unapproachable to the guys
@@deathbykonami5487 I don't think so, she sounds like the kind od nice girl who see those kids as weird and can't understand them but is still nice to them because why not? I had a lot of friends who were like that.
Dunno if JJ was a “mean” girl but she was definitely a popular girl. I remember there being nice and mean populars in my school. She doesn’t remember tormentors which means any that she had were minor, not full on bullied. She also says “guys like you” which shows she didn’t associate with the nerdy, unpopular groups, as well as being a football star in her school, yeah I believe she was popular even if she wasn’t “mean”
Nah, she was definitely a mean girl. People who don't like down on the nerds and geeks just call them by such, understanding and using the label as strictly descriptive. JJ didn't use these terms because she sees them as beneath her, instead going for the much more insulting "guys like you."
@@Y20XTongvaLand nerds getting bullied is a fact of that school system (Reid told about his own bad experiences) so her specifically saying she probably went out of her way to be nice to the kids who were usually the most bullied groups isn’t all of a sudden a contradiction of reality. Plus she grew up in a small town that probably gossiped and bullied her about how her big sister committed suicide. Remember her saying in North Mammon episode how she never put a finger out of line and focused all her energy on being the perfect student to get a scholarship so she could get out of there. She might have been beautiful, popular and athletic but she doesn’t have to be a bully because of that.
@@jenniferaguilera2087 well some people do change after high school or college. And I know some people that were, but are now nice. Granted not all people change, some stay the same.
JJ probably wasn't a mean girl per se, but definitely a bystander. Popular and hanging out with the plastics, jocks, and other hs social elite. Many probably despised her without her ever even noticing it. Guilty by association.
@@jax422Wrong, being a bystander doesn’t mean being blind. Bystanders still recognize people classed as “geeks” therefore you’ve proven nothing because “guys like you” could still be said by a bystander. Remember, those who don’t talk much listen lots.
I don't know, the fact that she added the "even to guys like you" makes me think she was a little less than nice. When I first heard this sound on TikTok (before watching the episode), I thought she might have been talking to an unsub. I was shocked to find out she was actually talking to Spencer.
Rudy Juarez- Yes JJ is very sexy!!! Why, because she was created to be so! :) But I disagree with her and Reid's friendship. I think their relationship has suffered and it will be hard for Reid to forgive her even if it has been that long, in his mind she betrayed him.
Guys, you don't have to be a mean girl to go through high school without tormentors. O.o I don't think JJ ever was one. Reid made an assumption based on the stereotypes of high school students.
Of course there is the option that you are that invisible, bullies don't realise you exist. And even if JJ is nice nowadays, her reaction shows Reid is right
+LMN good point, she did seem rather defensive, especially with that dig at Spencer being "that guy" in the social hierarchy. With her sporty nature, big personality, and good looks there was no way that JJ was invisible back then....still it's hard to imagine her being a mean girl.
I’d like to think that Criminal Minds is a continuation of Higher Ground. When Shelby graduated from Mt. Horizon Peter and Sophie offered her a soccer scholarship and she studied criminal justice in college. After testifying in her stepfather’s trial she changed her name to JJ and got a job in the BAU. So no, not a mean girl just a girl who was dealt a mean life until she got strong enough to overcome it all.
Speaking as someone who used to be fairly popular despite being a bullied fat, queer, alternative poc, there were obviously a few mean girls, but most of the popular girls were really nice ppl. Some of them just got branded as mean because they didn't accept weird, creepy behaviour. It's usually the guys you've got to worry about.
y'all are projecting. being bullied is not a universal experience, and most kids aren't bullies. jj is pretty but that doesn't mean she was a bully, jfc.
Within the group, I think Morgan and JJ would have the most similar highschool experience in terms of being attractive and popular but not a bully to the extent that would cause someone to be traumatized (or not a bully at all).
I think this all just banter. I mean, a girl with a history of suicide in the family? This kind of things hits hard, do you think she has in her to push someone like that?
She was also that little girl who was from a little town who lived under the dark cloud of her big sister committing suicide. That usually makes a kid a lot less shallow even if they have all the blessings needed to be at the top of high school social hierarchy.
I don’t think jj was mean I do think she was popular, we had nice and mean popular girls at my school and her saying “guys like you” means she didn’t necessarily associate herself with the more nerdy and unpopular people but she wasn’t mean to them either.
When she said "guys like you" I don't think she meant that in a condescending sense. She simply meant that she moved in a different circle, and Spencer in another. She said it matter-of-factly. And you don't have to be "mean" to have no tormentors/bullies. The world isn't black and white. So yes, maybe she's a mean girl, but I don't think she's one of those who are just outright bishes. At most she's mean in the sense that she's indifferent.
She probably wasn't a mean girl, but i can totally see her on the mean girls group, not being a bully, but being popular enough for not noticing the total amount of bullying on her own school, after all, she also got her mind on others themes while she was growing
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Valedictorian, soccer scholarship, corn-fed but still a size zero, I think you might have been a mean girl!
Only a mean girl will deny being a mean girl
@@TotallyNotALolicon that’s true !
@@viqarkagzi3922 umm a little girl who grew up in a small town under the dark cloud of her big sister committing suicide wouldn’t be predisposed to bullying anyone else. In North Mammon she explained how she concentrated all her energy to not put a finger out of line so she could get out of there through hard work as that was the only way she had.
@@sunkara8158 r/whooosh
@@jinwoo78 what does that mean? Sorry don’t understand.
I love when Reid said that it took Morgan 3 rounds to figure out that Reid was hustling him
BossedFished I know too fucking funny 😂
BossedFished I know I'm gonna sound stupid, but what does that mean? What did he do exactly?
I know what hustling means but what am I supposed to imagine in this context?
IIsuperstarII He pretended he didn’t know as much about basketball as he actually does so he could win jets against Morgan and the other people in the betting pool Morgan had going.
Damn took me almost 10 yrs figure that out I’m so stupid 😂😂😂😂
I just NOW realised Reid was talking about them watching a game, not playing basketball themselves lol
You know she was a mean girl because she said guys like you
I'm not sure. I think that piece might have been defensive
And, more tellingly, JJ blinked three times when she denied it.
I think she was
She wasn't just any mean girl! She was the Apex predator, she was Godzilla!
In terms of her relationship with Spencer, I never liked how the writers did it. One moment she's nice to him, then when Spencer becomes himself (prattling off excitedly about something he's interested in) JJ shuts him off rudely. Like, the others aren't exactly in the mood for that all of the time and sometimes are like "Reid, not now", but JJ's snappish attitude when she doesn't want to talk to Spence sets me off.
Reid asked her if she was a mean girl because she said she didn't remember who her tormentors were. If you had them, you never forget. ( and given what he knows about her background, he made an assumption)
but she might just not have had tormentors and have been nice
Sean Gannon yeah but she said she didn't remember who they were. Not that she didn't have any. And Reid knows it's practically impossible to "forget" who your tormentors were.
So she either lied so that she could show that she also got bullied for some reason or she lied because she was a tormentor.
@@iisuperstarii7310 that 'tude in her voice as said "even to guys like you"
I went to a public high school and every girl that spoke with that kind of snarky attitude belonged to a cliq that made life difficult for the other girls and came across as unapproachable to the guys
Don't you mean "inference"
@@deathbykonami5487 I don't think so, she sounds like the kind od nice girl who see those kids as weird and can't understand them but is still nice to them because why not? I had a lot of friends who were like that.
dude...reid is so lovely now that he is more confident and the way he calmly claims that he is a badass genius is so adorable.
Look! The likes on your comment are almost his IQ.
I love Reid's hair in season 7.
devywevy1996 me too so sexy
samee omg
Sameeeeeeeee
Yeah, Reid’s hair in season 7 was one of the best! 😁😍
6 and 7 ❤️
Dunno if JJ was a “mean” girl but she was definitely a popular girl. I remember there being nice and mean populars in my school. She doesn’t remember tormentors which means any that she had were minor, not full on bullied. She also says “guys like you” which shows she didn’t associate with the nerdy, unpopular groups, as well as being a football star in her school, yeah I believe she was popular even if she wasn’t “mean”
definitely! there were girls at my private school that were skinny, beautiful, rich, but still nice. it kinda makes you even more upset 😂
Nah, she was definitely a mean girl. People who don't like down on the nerds and geeks just call them by such, understanding and using the label as strictly descriptive. JJ didn't use these terms because she sees them as beneath her, instead going for the much more insulting "guys like you."
@@Y20XTongvaLand nerds getting bullied is a fact of that school system (Reid told about his own bad experiences) so her specifically saying she probably went out of her way to be nice to the kids who were usually the most bullied groups isn’t all of a sudden a contradiction of reality. Plus she grew up in a small town that probably gossiped and bullied her about how her big sister committed suicide. Remember her saying in North Mammon episode how she never put a finger out of line and focused all her energy on being the perfect student to get a scholarship so she could get out of there. She might have been beautiful, popular and athletic but she doesn’t have to be a bully because of that.
And she definitly felt called out
"It took him three rounds to realize I was hustling him." Is in my top 10 Reid lines.
"corn-fed but still a size 0" 🤣🤣🤣
I can see her as a mean girl
Yah me too. I wouldn't mind it if she was mean to me.
You bite your fuckin' you swine! She is a sweetheart always
Nahh, she's too sensitive and sweet for that.
@@jenniferaguilera2087 well some people do change after high school or college. And I know some people that were, but are now nice. Granted not all people change, some stay the same.
Not really. I mean, I can see her as one of the popular girls, but the one who was always nice to everyone
JJ probably wasn't a mean girl per se, but definitely a bystander. Popular and hanging out with the plastics, jocks, and other hs social elite. Many probably despised her without her ever even noticing it. Guilty by association.
The “guys like you” comment shows she was a mean girl, not a bystander. Bystanders don’t differentiate like that. They are typically oblivious.
@@jax422Wrong, being a bystander doesn’t mean being blind. Bystanders still recognize people classed as “geeks” therefore you’ve proven nothing because “guys like you” could still be said by a bystander. Remember, those who don’t talk much listen lots.
we should totally see flashbacks of JJ as a mean girl
She's extremely attractive in this scene. Like, more so than normal.
Reid looks soo dashing in this hairstyle
Reid hustling Morgan..lmao :D
"even to a guy like you" spoken like totally not a mean girl
I don't know, the fact that she added the "even to guys like you" makes me think she was a little less than nice. When I first heard this sound on TikTok (before watching the episode), I thought she might have been talking to an unsub. I was shocked to find out she was actually talking to Spencer.
That just means she was popular and didn’t associate with nerds. But even if she was popular and nice she prolly was friends with the mean girls so😂
After a long internal debate, I have decided that JJ was indeed a mean girl.
i love this episode with the prank war between Spencer and Derek
Rudy Juarez-
Yes JJ is very sexy!!! Why, because she was created to be so! :) But I disagree with her and Reid's friendship. I think their relationship has suffered and it will be hard for Reid to forgive her even if it has been that long, in his mind she betrayed him.
Talking about emilys “death”? Yeah was a pretty bad thing to do
Love banter like this.
I think she might have been a bit of a mean girl like Emma Ross from Jessie
Reid is simply The Man!!!
I can easily see JJ being a bit of a mean girl
That would of been a good ep to see Morgan kicking Reid outta the pool 😂😂😂
Nah she was at least popular bc you never forget the ones who teased you and then guilty by association a mean girl
@BandNerd06Forever I don't know... she fits the profile but she is so sweet. I'd like to think she was popular but nice to everybody
Guys, you don't have to be a mean girl to go through high school without tormentors. O.o I don't think JJ ever was one. Reid made an assumption based on the stereotypes of high school students.
Of course there is the option that you are that invisible, bullies don't realise you exist.
And even if JJ is nice nowadays, her reaction shows Reid is right
+LMN good point, she did seem rather defensive, especially with that dig at Spencer being "that guy" in the social hierarchy. With her sporty nature, big personality, and good looks there was no way that JJ was invisible back then....still it's hard to imagine her being a mean girl.
+Jen W. yes, I was really shocked when she said "even to guys like you". It doesn't seem to fit her personality
aquila altaire Thank you. someone sides with me
maybe she was friends with the "mean girls" but I dont see her being mean, even if she was popular.
I love JJ
A) Why does JJ look so sexy in this video and B) I like it when they're friends again. I didn't like it when Reid was mad at her.
Rudy Juarez I understood it ... It was destined to blow over
I liked when he was mad at her for some reason. That side of reid was hot xD
I’d like to think that Criminal Minds is a continuation of Higher Ground. When Shelby graduated from Mt. Horizon Peter and Sophie offered her a soccer scholarship and she studied criminal justice in college. After testifying in her stepfather’s trial she changed her name to JJ and got a job in the BAU. So no, not a mean girl just a girl who was dealt a mean life until she got strong enough to overcome it all.
Speaking as someone who used to be fairly popular despite being a bullied fat, queer, alternative poc, there were obviously a few mean girls, but most of the popular girls were really nice ppl. Some of them just got branded as mean because they didn't accept weird, creepy behaviour. It's usually the guys you've got to worry about.
The end reminds me when Matt didn’t believe Reid when they said that he was banned from all casinos in Vegas 😭
She is so attractive
Reid: Were u one of the mean girls?
JJ: ...no!
lulz!
"Corn fed but still a size zero". Such a weird thing to say but so true
Soccer is real football
how can she be a mean girl if she’s an fbi agent? we all know mean girls become nurses
You dead wrong for that 😭😭😭😂😂😂
That or Trophy Wives.
y'all are projecting. being bullied is not a universal experience, and most kids aren't bullies. jj is pretty but that doesn't mean she was a bully, jfc.
Within the group, I think Morgan and JJ would have the most similar highschool experience in terms of being attractive and popular but not a bully to the extent that would cause someone to be traumatized (or not a bully at all).
“Guys like you” 💀
Made me giggle ngl
her sister went suicide......idk if that changed her but i know its something big that happened!
@filisays also, Reid was younger than all the others. Adding to the "vulnerable and impressionable"
I how she said oh yea u played BASKETBALL? and Reid is like what I coached basketball
Says she wasn’t a mean girl but says things like “Even to Guys like you”
Ok, Am I the only one that ships J.J and Reid?
Michelle_82 Nope you're not alone.
Michelle_82 Definitely not. I've been shipping them for years
Michelle_82 Nope my one top
Michelle_82
It's illogical.
Gauri Korde me too. And Garcia and Morgan
I think this all just banter. I mean, a girl with a history of suicide in the family? This kind of things hits hard, do you think she has in her to push someone like that?
Arly criminal minds
Note: if ever playing sport. Bring read, technically that’s not “cheating”
Nails.. nope not any more sadistic than any other fragmentation bomb.. writer being to cute.by half.
She's also blonde and pretty she was definitely a mean girl
She was also that little girl who was from a little town who lived under the dark cloud of her big sister committing suicide. That usually makes a kid a lot less shallow even if they have all the blessings needed to be at the top of high school social hierarchy.
lol!! love this scene!!
This wasn't season 7 episode 4
Ugh now everyone wants her to be a mean girl ?? I’m no 👎
@tchain17 I heard it like a "wha? wha? NO!" really, It was like wha, wha NO!
I totally believe JJ was a mean girl
Her saying guys like you proves she was definitely a mean girl
of course she was nice to “guys like him” have you even seen him in highschool 😩
The "even to guys like you" doesn’t sound very nice
I don’t think jj was mean I do think she was popular, we had nice and mean popular girls at my school and her saying “guys like you” means she didn’t necessarily associate herself with the more nerdy and unpopular people but she wasn’t mean to them either.
but when that happened she was only 11 years old. i dont think she was mean.
Love reid😊
When she said "guys like you" I don't think she meant that in a condescending sense. She simply meant that she moved in a different circle, and Spencer in another. She said it matter-of-factly. And you don't have to be "mean" to have no tormentors/bullies. The world isn't black and white. So yes, maybe she's a mean girl, but I don't think she's one of those who are just outright bishes. At most she's mean in the sense that she's indifferent.
What episode is this?
Season 7 episode 4
Lol JJ
someone nice doesn't say they're nice. and I know she was joking, but the "even to guys like you" sounds so... wrong
She was damn sure a mean girl
She probably wasn't a mean girl, but i can totally see her on the mean girls group, not being a bully, but being popular enough for not noticing the total amount of bullying on her own school, after all, she also got her mind on others themes while she was growing
I don't like JJ.