I own a Hyundai i30 2011 with a 1.6L diesel engine and a manual gearbox, I love it. 22km/L. It was underpowered, remapped the ECU and now it makes 153 hp instead of 116, and that has improved the consumption.
With the Corolla the Hybrid system is integrated with the transmission as it houses the electric motors (MG1/MG2) - big difference between its e-CVT (electric motors and planetary gear set) vs a conventional CVT (pulleys/chain)
This has been an issue for 60 years that I've been reading road reviews - sometimes testers have to take what they're given. Hyundai only have one grade. TOYOTA habitually only has top-spec models in their journalists fleet.
Particularly for a test of these cars, where fuel economy is the main draw, It'd be prudent to use a comparison of actual fuel used (e.g. brimmed tank -> test drive -> actual fuel used determined from filling up) and gps-verified distance to calculate the actual fuel economy. Sometimes on-board trip computers can be optimistic.
The top trim i30 sedan leaves the Corolla for dead. I have the top time non-hybrid and I checked out both cars before purchasing the i30. It left the Corolla and Mazda 3 in its smoke. Not to mention the Auoto in the i30 is far superior to the Toyota for longevity.
Software problems, unless it was manufactured in the US. Poor quality workmanship is the US trademark forever. Korean made have only a couple of software issues and are reliable. I have seen over the last decade soo many Toyota CVTs being scrapped at less than 100,00 km, 60,00 miles. The only worse ones are the Nissans and Suburos. Don't buy American. The whole world knows that one. Only the Yanks don't. @@robertbruce2182
Anyone who believes any Hyundai transmission is superior to a Toyota e-cvt has no understanding of how it actually works. A fluid change every 6years/100000 kilometres will ensure the Toyota transmission will outlast any and all types. See how your Korean transmission is at 150,000 kilometres. Have owned three Prius in the last twenty years all mechanically faultless. Current one is now 7 years and still achieving 4-4.2 litres/100 kilometres (actual calculated mileage).One set of replacement tyres, original brakes, one 12 volt battery, one fuel pump filter and oil/filter change every six months. 100% reliable. Cheers.
I had the impression from a news item from about 7 or 8 years ago that the idea of “before onroad costs” had gone the way of car ashtrays. Why do we continue with this antique method of not-so-stealthy added cost? Do other markets elsewhere on the planet do it? I don’t get it…
Different states in Australia have different registration costs. The internet is global. Perhaps with IA in the future the video would change costs depending on viewer location.
I’m not a fan of DCTs but the final nail in the coffin of the Hyundai is that incredibly annoying beeping and bonging from the speed alert system. It’s a deal breaker. Very distracting and dangerous. C’mon Hyundai, hurry up with a software fix for this. Cause until you do, all Hyundais and Kias are off my shopping list.
Not sure if they can. Could be part of the stupid safety certifications. That's why you sometimes can't disable some features permanently. Thankfully, at least my Corolla is quiet and never really beeps while driving.
These guys are being paid by the manufacturers. The review is nothing more then a paid commercial. In this case toyota probably paid more. Ever though the hyundai has the bigger boot, is about 4 to 5 seconds faster from 0-100 somehow the toyota is more zippy and fun to drive with a better boot😅 if anyone is interested in one vs the other I advise you take both for a test drive and not use these online reviews to base your decision on your next purchase.
It was explained in the video that Hyundai hasn't started importing the higher-specification versions of the i30 Hybrid to Australia yet, so these were the variants available to compare. We ignored luxury features and concentrated on dynamics and value across the range. Cheers.
Those fuel consumption tests were way too short. The results will be skewed by any refuel measurement variation which is a given when you are only putting a couple of litres in. Don’t tell me used the cars own measurement instead because that’s almost guaranteed to be miles off.
Choose the Toyota if you're going to go for either of these cars. Hyundai cars aren't generally as durable as Toyota's. They go okay for a little while then after the warranty expires you start getting all kinds of problems with their electrical systems, engines and turbochargers because of production cost cutting to make the car more affordable which costs you more in the long term.
yeah, ugly design (for me) and DCT kill the Hyundai, the fact Toyota has over 2 decades of experience making hybrids make them a no brainer in terms of reliability wouldn't mind the i30 as a company car tho
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Aerodynamic brilliance. The streamline, futuristic design of the i30 is a daring break from the cookie cutter cars one usually sees on the road.
Both of these cars have very basic 4 cylinder cars with the basic power of a ride on mower. I test drove the i30. Nice car but very unimpressed by its power out put. 77 kws is on a par with my mothers 2008 nissan micra. I am not rushing out to buy one . I suppose I have been spoiled by my Astra RSV with it 147 km turbo 1.6 ltr donk with its 6.42 seconds 0 to 100 kph. Chalk and cheese as far as acceleration goes.
They are not performance cars, they're hybrids for economy. Can you get 4.0 litres per 100km? Not for you, don't buy it; go buy a Golf GTI or Hyundai i30N.
it is the best hybrid small car imo. the civic e:hev beats the corolla and i30 in terms of design, and materials used for the interior imo. the only problem for the civic e:hev is the price. 60,K is a lot of money.
Hybrids are awesome. EVs are cool too, but I think hybrids suit a wider group of people....for now.
I own a Hyundai i30 2011 with a 1.6L diesel engine and a manual gearbox, I love it. 22km/L. It was underpowered, remapped the ECU and now it makes 153 hp instead of 116, and that has improved the consumption.
Only problem is the turbo goes on them and they start burning oil and wrecking the bearings as they get to higher km
@@superwag634 I drive widely, try to, and so far it is looking good...
With the Corolla the Hybrid system is integrated with the transmission as it houses the electric motors (MG1/MG2) - big difference between its e-CVT (electric motors and planetary gear set) vs a conventional CVT (pulleys/chain)
Nothing wrong with base models and having a proper key. Just what I like.
A comparison should have been made between the base model variants instead
Exactly 💯 how can U compare a base model vs top spec 😂 what a waste of a review
This has been an issue for 60 years that I've been reading road reviews - sometimes testers have to take what they're given.
Hyundai only have one grade.
TOYOTA habitually only has top-spec models in their journalists fleet.
exactly
Particularly for a test of these cars, where fuel economy is the main draw, It'd be prudent to use a comparison of actual fuel used (e.g. brimmed tank -> test drive -> actual fuel used determined from filling up) and gps-verified distance to calculate the actual fuel economy. Sometimes on-board trip computers can be optimistic.
You are wrong mate. Base model hybrid corolla is 36k driveaway. So i30 is still cheaper.
You gotta look at the TCO. Resale value of the Corolla will be way higher than i30
@@yslee1401 I know. I'm just correcting him saying that the base model of corolla is cheaper.
Is there a $45k small sedan EV?
You should also mention that Totoya would probably last way longer than the Hyundai.
Base line toyota corolla would be the sweet spot! Thanks for the great review.👍
Does Toyota corolla have sunroof?
When do the i30 Hybrid Elite/Premium models come out?
The top trim i30 sedan leaves the Corolla for dead. I have the top time non-hybrid and I checked out both cars before purchasing the i30. It left the Corolla and Mazda 3 in its smoke. Not to mention the Auoto in the i30 is far superior to the Toyota for longevity.
Nah the Toyota eCVT is incredibly reliable and is better then the Hyundai DCT which is known for problems
Software problems, unless it was manufactured in the US. Poor quality workmanship is the US trademark forever.
Korean made have only a couple of software issues and are reliable. I have seen over the last decade soo many Toyota CVTs being scrapped at less than 100,00 km, 60,00 miles. The only worse ones are the Nissans and Suburos.
Don't buy American. The whole world knows that one. Only the Yanks don't. @@robertbruce2182
Anyone who believes any Hyundai transmission is superior to a Toyota e-cvt has no understanding of how it actually works. A fluid change every 6years/100000 kilometres will ensure the Toyota transmission will outlast any and all types. See how your Korean transmission is at 150,000 kilometres. Have owned three Prius in the last twenty years all mechanically faultless. Current one is now 7 years and still achieving 4-4.2 litres/100 kilometres (actual calculated mileage).One set of replacement tyres, original brakes, one 12 volt battery, one fuel pump filter and oil/filter change every six months. 100% reliable. Cheers.
why would you compare base spec to a top spec?
about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike
I had the impression from a news item from about 7 or 8 years ago that the idea of “before onroad costs” had gone the way of car ashtrays. Why do we continue with this antique method of not-so-stealthy added cost? Do other markets elsewhere on the planet do it? I don’t get it…
May as well quote it before tax, after tax. It’s predatory pricing tactics which should be outlawed
Different states in Australia have different registration costs. The internet is global. Perhaps with IA in the future the video would change costs depending on viewer location.
$45k for a Corolla? Damn that's crazy even for a top-trim
Corolla cross is better bang for the buck, also has rear air vents.
@@adi2082 also faster and has newer hybrid generation
Not to mention the resale value of the Corolla that would surely trump the Hyundai
Albo's Australia
@@baubonithis has the same gen hybrid as the cross but smaller engine
I’m not a fan of DCTs but the final nail in the coffin of the Hyundai is that incredibly annoying beeping and bonging from the speed alert system. It’s a deal breaker. Very distracting and dangerous. C’mon Hyundai, hurry up with a software fix for this. Cause until you do, all Hyundais and Kias are off my shopping list.
Not sure if they can. Could be part of the stupid safety certifications. That's why you sometimes can't disable some features permanently. Thankfully, at least my Corolla is quiet and never really beeps while driving.
On all Kia's and Hyundai's you can turn it off.
@@hey_guesswhat And it comes back the next time you drive the car!
Both very good cars but boy, have they gotten expensive
But for the tech as standard they are great bang for buck, like both come with lane tracing for a base model is impressive
I tested this Corolla and it feels so cheap behind the wheel.
Not a fair comparison. Please please when you do a comparison use like for like cars or don’t do it at all.
Otherwise a good video.
What? How are they not like to like?
@@mharro88
No point in comparing a high grade against a lower grade.
It’s needs to be like for like in my view.
These guys are being paid by the manufacturers. The review is nothing more then a paid commercial. In this case toyota probably paid more. Ever though the hyundai has the bigger boot, is about 4 to 5 seconds faster from 0-100 somehow the toyota is more zippy and fun to drive with a better boot😅 if anyone is interested in one vs the other I advise you take both for a test drive and not use these online reviews to base your decision on your next purchase.
ZR Corolla has lower profile than the SX or Sport Corolla, could be the source of tyre noise.
damm i wonder why Hyundai cost 2times on serving??
Looks like you guys filmed at Brimbank Park
Can you do comparison between prius vs yaris hybrid
Not much of a comparison when you are comparing a base model Hyundai with the top spec Toyota so I say B.S. to this comparison. Not apples with apples
It was explained in the video that Hyundai hasn't started importing the higher-specification versions of the i30 Hybrid to Australia yet, so these were the variants available to compare. We ignored luxury features and concentrated on dynamics and value across the range. Cheers.
Personally, the Toyota Corolla SX hybrid is the pick of hybrid cars in this category.
I agree it’s the sweet spot Corolla
Those fuel consumption tests were way too short. The results will be skewed by any refuel measurement variation which is a given when you are only putting a couple of litres in. Don’t tell me used the cars own measurement instead because that’s almost guaranteed to be miles off.
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Unreliable DCT instantly rules out the Hyundai, should go straight to the dump.
Agreed. Dual Clutch (wet or dry) have never been reliable and costs an arm and a few legs to repair
I saw somewhere they’re moving away from the DCT in the hybrids.
Yeah but 45k for a Corolla is nuts
@@TheUnreadableUser they are still selling really well regardless, probably not the top spec though.
The design of this hybrid transmission is not comparable to those basic DCT.
Hate CVT except on 50cc scooters.
Choose the Toyota if you're going to go for either of these cars. Hyundai cars aren't generally as durable as Toyota's. They go okay for a little while then after the warranty expires you start getting all kinds of problems with their electrical systems, engines and turbochargers because of production cost cutting to make the car more affordable which costs you more in the long term.
The Corolla just looks so much better,inside and out
yeah, ugly design (for me) and DCT kill the Hyundai, the fact Toyota has over 2 decades of experience making hybrids make them a no brainer in terms of reliability
wouldn't mind the i30 as a company car tho
I think toyota lot more bettet 😂
Parallel hybrid + lockup clutch for transmission will worn out quite quick...no Hyundai...
This Hyundai generation has some reliability issues.
Damn that i30 is ugly.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Aerodynamic brilliance.
The streamline, futuristic design of the i30 is a daring break from the cookie cutter cars one usually sees on the road.
Both of these cars have very basic 4 cylinder cars with the basic power of a ride on mower. I test drove the i30. Nice car but very unimpressed by its power out put. 77 kws is on a par with my mothers 2008 nissan micra. I am not rushing out to buy one . I suppose I have been spoiled by my Astra RSV with it 147 km turbo 1.6 ltr donk with its 6.42 seconds 0 to 100 kph. Chalk and cheese as far as acceleration goes.
They are not performance cars, they're hybrids for economy. Can you get 4.0 litres per 100km? Not for you, don't buy it; go buy a Golf GTI or Hyundai i30N.
We're is the HONDA I personally think its the best all round hybrid if you can actually drive a car 😢
it is the best hybrid small car imo. the civic e:hev beats the corolla and i30 in terms of design, and materials used for the interior imo. the only problem for the civic e:hev is the price. 60,K is a lot of money.
Not sure how Hyundai designed a car that already looks dated haha