I just re-watched this since the arrest, and Dr. Brucato described what he believed would be the killer's personality, and Bryan Kohberger's personality, based on how people have described him, is spot on.
I really dislike statistics, because not everything falls into boxes. When my child went missing and I was given all of these stats repeatedly by LE and why he wasn’t missing ( our child was at University, his fiancé of 4 yrs had just graduated from University ) and LE kept telling us “oh he just went to LA with his buddies.” We knew he wouldn’t bug out on Valentine’s Day when he had a special gift made for his fiancé & a dinner planned. We talked to him at least 3x a week & helped with finances. Yet we had to fight LE to listen to us, bc LE kept repeating he would show up in 10 days, stats shows this. He showed up in 6 weeks. He was murdered. Young ppl, pls keep in touch with family, let them know your travel plans. They will fight for you when you need it the very most! Stay safe, vet your friends carefully! Parents support your children & love them. Each day you have with them is a true gift.
😭💔💜🤗That is so sad. What a tragedy! Deepest condolences on your loss. Can't imagine the grief you had to endure. May you be comforted that he's at peace now.
BTW this is the ONLY podcast / true crime my wife and I have been able to sit through actual adults who know what they're talking about ...so thank you so much
Retired NYPD Detective. Duty Ron and CSI beh. Expert trainer /author consultant, retired NYPD. Ed Wallace . (They are GREAT STRAIGHT UP. THE POD CAST IS called " DUTY RON." . Also "PROFILING EVIL " with Mike King, ret. NYPD det. Behavioral . Author too. Also great show. These guys know what they're talking about. Watch them for intelligent discussion and experience.
I am new to this channel and I love the expert opinions BUT they are mixing up the facts and some details which is kinda frustrating. I will definitely be listening to this channel more.
I don’t know if this house was on or near the university campus but I think learning from this there needs to be cameras, this would resolve some issues?!
If they had parties there in the house people over share when drunk so maybe the killers/killer knew the layout who’s bedrooms it doesn’t sound spur of the moment it sounds somewhat planned!
The guy on the bottom-right is a keeper. He's the only one who is not repeating what other talking heads have said already. He's got points that I haven't heard anywhere before.
He also lost points for all that camera fumbling, shaking, adjustments, and twitching and stuff. I was getting dizzy there. I would like to recommend him get a $10 tripod for his next visit.
This guy, Gary Brucato (sp.?), raised several salient points about the probable personality of this killer. Fresh points and highly plausible. Such a keeper.
Amazing peek inside these experts’ minds on the assailant’s profile. Thank you for carefully elaborating aspects of who the killer would be and what goes on in his mind for all of us to deeper understand. Helps a ton with lowering our risk level and staying aware of our surroundings and who we let in, period. Let this type of crime never happen again. Justice is coming. 🙏🏽🕊️🕯️
We should also be far more aware of how we effect, treat or, ignore others. One is preventative harm coming to us, the other is harm coming to anyone. Law enforcement uses the acts of mass murderers as political force to ratchet down on freedoms because they think they can use or believe that control will save people. It's actually more succesful to just stop ignoring the perpetuated environments that create criminals than stop them once they've killed. Humans are born with two things, the expectation that their vulnerable cries for help will be met with nurturing and that once mature enough they will be able to exert free will. You let them down on the first one, they will violently force the second.
In hindsight, this panel (especially Dr Brucato) was spot on about the suspect (assuming the correct perpetrator is the person currently in custody). Phenomenal show and phenomenal guests.
I’ve never seen this show before. Very well done from all your guests of course. This guy Gary is super sharp! I’ve learned a ton from this. Very thought provoking. Great work!
@A Z That’s not so far fetched! I know a person who bought a gun mounted night vision goggles ( so you can only see out of your dominant eye ) he used it to see where the raccoons were getting into his yard to his garbage. It is illegal to hunt at night, so idk why they sell them(?) but he found the issue & fixed it. Btw, that gun mounted night vision goggle was not expensive & you can watch Deer eating at night in his orchard. We watched him sneak up to the Deer & he was able to touch one! It was really cool! But now it’s really scary.
When JS drank, he "became" another person entirely. That persona even had it's own name (Terry). Xana commented on a pic of JS hugging a bear something like "Well hello, Terry." If that's not odd, I don't know what is
@@SurvivingTheSurvivorgreat channel! Any chance you can tone down the ads? I’ve never seen so many ads in one show before. This was my second time watching and it happened both times.
Dr. Brucato is unbelievably intelligent! I’m a first time watcher and I’ll be back. Very thought provoking conversation…love Anne…long standing expert and I love hearing their perspective. With so little info, very interesting
Another group of amazing guests. Joel, your channel just gets better and better. I agree the Phd guest is invaluable. All three are so interesting, but he was fascinating.
This is a very knowledgeable panel of professionals. I appreciate their informed, dispassionate and rational analysis. Also appreciate the moderator's questions toward each guest to obtain each panelist's perspective and expertise. Thx so much.
@@indigoblue4791 they’re lying to you. They were able to add all those mid roll ads in. If they wanted, they could’ve kept it down to 1 ad at the beginning, 1 at the end. TH-camrs love to pretend they don’t know how TH-cam works and blame TH-cam for everything.
@@DanielleStarry I know you're right but his reply had me doubt myself. This is the first time I've came across this channel. I must admit Gary's input had me hang on far longer than l would on any other video crammed with ads like this one. I won't watch anymore from this channel because l imagine they're all an ad nightmare. AND him lying like that too....I've nothing too learn from them. Thanks for your reply!! 😍
@@indigoblue4791 I totally understand that TH-camrs want to get paid for their work - I just don’t appreciate being lied to. Just tell the truth. Say, “I work hard on my TH-cam videos, and want to be paid for my work. The ads are skippable, and I’m sorry for the bother” Everyone would totally understand and respect the truth!
As I watch this show, I am riveted by the quality of thought. And the hosting job is really top drawer. totally informed on the info, but just directing the input from the guests. Worthy of 5 million views on a major network. Keep on truckin'!
At around 24-26 minutes the man on the bottom right talks about envy and how the individual could be lashing out at those he perceives as accepted, desirable, loved, and socially relaxed. I like many others during adolescence have experienced this envy. It can be quite painful and I can remember the frustration, sadness, and sometimes anger at my own social difficulties and not being as accepted as I would have liked. Fortunately I worked through it like most people. We don’t know it it’s the motive but I can see how a disturbed individual could decide to project their inner turmoil onto others. The inability to tolerate and work through the anger and frustration can certainly be all it might take which is disturbing in and of itself.
@@jo-eo9ld True. Remember this is likely a very disturbed individual. They’re not thinking logically like you and I. Could be a way to gain perceived control over others. Again illogical and disturbed.
This was very well done. Appreciate the input from you and your guests. Most all of us watching social media true crime have had many, if not all, these examples in our minds. I pray the murderer has or will make big mistakes and not remain elusive. In my young years, I have had stalkers, very strange guys that attached themselves to me for no reason, guys that were immediately angry with me for being out going, outspoken, and almost fearless. I trained and rode huge horses and they seemed to feel that made me a woman “being overpowering.” There was more than a few times I actually hid from some of them. It hit me that I was at the beginning of women’s lib. Yep. The guest stating it caused more hate crimes and DV, if you will, toward women being liberated was something I watched first hand. Even my mother felt I needed to realize that could happen and would get angry with me for expressing opinions and “no being lady-like.” When the videos hit YT showing the girls “putting themselves out there” I posted that while they were so very beautiful and could do that, it wasn’t the best/safest behavior, as I learned from experience. Thank you again for your content and allowing us a platform for a public comment/missive. 🙏🏻
@Debra Weber Yes, I don't think many people can fully understand & see the gravity of the darker aspects of women's lib. Even if you just look at how women have evolved to do pretty much anything, everything but the guys didn't get the memo to catch up, cook dinners, grocery shop, clean the house, do laundry, etc., women's lib was supposed to be about equal rights, not women to it all & then some & then we subconsciously hate them for it ;) lol. but not lol.
You're very right. All you have to do nowadays is be in the wrong place at the wrong time and one of these psycho animals can become attached to you through no fault of your own.
Wow what amazing guests! I agree with the Dr. Bracato on absolutely everything he said. Envy, meticulous planning, obsessing, rage, odd-duck-type, choice of intimate weapon, all resonate as accurate. Unless the police KNOW who the person is and it isn't as meticulous as they are letting on, but they don't have enough actual evidence for conviction.
and he mentioned them getting into that hunting mode which plays along with the fact the coroner said each victim had a specific lethal wound, which to me means he cut their throats so to mask any noise which also leads to the excessive blood dripping to the outer wall
GREAT panel! The envy factor lovely Ann mentioned stuck out to me. All the victims are to be envied. And the perp must of had a real thrill in ending their great successful futures. Like, see, so much for your great lives, and I am the one who put an end to it.
I'm watching this on January 6, several days after the arrest of the alleged perpetrator because I wanted to see how accurate you would be. I'm extremely impressed by all four of you and I will definitely be looking each of you up in the future whenever I'm looking for answers that I can have confidence in. Thank you, you definitely have my respect. BTW, I would really like to hear your opinion of Israel Keyes, I think he could have cleared up many murders if that case had been handled better.
Something I believe overlooked. The killer knew how drunk and passed out these vulnerable souls where. The killer had the upper hand and took advantage.
Yes, I thought of that. Why else would he have the chutzpah to break into a house occupied by 6 people? I doubt he anticipated a male being there, but he knew the occupants had been drinking and waited for the lights to go out. Once they were in bed asleep, the victims were even more vulnerable. I wonder if the perpetrator could see the lights in the house go out from his own residence.
I feel like everyone in that house was targeted. Perp got in through back window or sliding door. Goes straight up to 3rd floor. Either Maddie or Kaylee was able to let out a short scream. That scream woke up Ethan and left bedroom to see what was going on. Perp came down to 2nd floor and came face to face with Ethan. Ethan turned and tried to get back in bedroom and lock the door, but he didn’t get door closed and perp attacked him. Xana was awaken by their struggle and was able to fight for her life when perp attacked her. Perp then went to the 1st floor and realized both of those bedroom doors were locked He knew if he broke down one door, it would wake up the last tenant so he just bolted out of the front door. Just my opinion
I actually feel that the perp would eliminate Ethan first as he would be the biggest threat physically. Then Xana obviously at which point he would travel upstairs to Maddie and Kaylee. I also feel like that's why Kaylee's Dad said he didn't have to go upstairs. That's just my opinion but it makes sense of what most criminals would do. Logically.
@@Ms.Norths.Musings When the Dad said He didn't need go upstairs ",it was rumoured that the girls were sleeping in empty room on same floor,as it was warmer n near furnace!?? Idk. .LE said they have not revealed any information to anyone not even parents so again..the poor Dad is angry n grieving,so speaking out of context?.
@Veronica Gower I don't think he's speaking out of context more grasping at straws since the families are getting no information at all. Not even how they died. I feel the dad is gathering info from online the funeral home or homes and trying to make sense of it. I can understand le not giving any info but then I can't for the families as well. I honestly think if they were given info and told not to speak out about it they wouldn't. Them not getting info is making it harder for them in this already horrific tragedy. They are victims as well and don't feel they are being treated as such. Just my opinion.
And Kaylee was only there for the weekend, she was leaving Sun., she had already moved out. she was just visiting and I think the killer knew that and it was his last chance to get her.
Hi! I'm fascinated by the man in the lower right corner! He is a brilliant man! I wish he could be hired to work on the case. All of your guests are great. So glad I found you!
@@drgaryb13 Gotta agree with this, you are amazing. Such a wealth of information and intelligence. Perfectly confirmed whom I view as the most likely suspect as well.
This is an excellent and useful contribution to the ongoing analyses regarding the Idaho tragedy, and is a standard well above most, in my opinion! Thank you 😇
Love this video. Better than any other I’ve seen this far. Really explains what’s possible. So scary. I can’t even look at a papercut…. Please keep following this case. These poor kids!
Well, officially I'm completely hooked on your show. This case is beyond heartbreaking 💔. This Evil Creature took the lives of four wonderful human beings who had bright futures. Thank You for mentioning the possibility of my theory I greatly appreciate it.
Liverpool in the uk here. I am studying for a criminology and psychology degree at John Moore’s University and I have been watching this case from day one. This is so clear to me that this has nothing to do with gangs/drugs or the like, this is clearly a crime of passion, an angry individual who is known to the 4 students who had an idea of the layout of the house in order to make his way around it in the dark early hours. Clearly been watching this house for the right time to act an had this planned out. Hopefully he is caught soon for the family’s sake
@@jmay5059 hey Jo, they said it’s still a puppy really and that the house was a party house so I don’t think the dog would be aggressive if anything a bit of a dope but I also hear that the dog was locked in a room out the way so that says a lot. Maybe the person knows the dog an put him away before going on his rampage. I personally think it’s kaylee’s ex ginger jack or jack s who seems to have vanished and gone to Africa
@@jmay5059 I know but with it being a party house it was use to loud noises. The police were always getting called out to that house due to loud music and noise so the fog being locked in a room out the way wouldn’t of been aware what was about to take place
Hi to all, Anne and the FBI guy are just so great could listen to these 2 all day, the fbi guy just flows in conversation on this subject, knowledge is king, thank you all
Yesss. I’ve said this from the start. I believe this is somebody who feels rejected by society or feels rejected by this particular group of people. I’ve also said that right now he/she is probably watching their P’s and Q’s, however if this turns into a cold case, I think their ego is inflated to where they’ll be able to strike again. Maybe not in Idaho though. Overall it’s horrifying to think about this turning into a cold case. 4 victims who deserve justice. I know law enforcement is doing everything that they can ❤
it takes years/months to become a cold case we are only in our 4th week. So much DNA and leads to go through will take weeks/months. Keep the faith people.
I have always thought it could be envy of the whole group by one person. The four were frequently sharing their shared experiences on Facebook and other social media and they seemed to have this "perfect "joy and happiness together. I think this was the specific characteristic of their group that could have promoted envy and profound hurt in others. It would be awful for any person who might have been or felt "rejected" by this particular group. I'm a group psychoanalyst, UK.
Sally Willis I've thought about this extremely important factor as well! It's helpful to know that a group psychoanalyst has verified it. I'm aware that situations can look much better on Facebook etc than in reality, or even from the outside looking in, in real life, so it would be a shame if it was the main cause of four precious young people losing their lives! It's a tragedy that it happened for ANY reason though. 😥
@Sally Willis what a great comment. I was thinking the same. It reads as someone who hates what these victims stood for, while at the same time wishing that they could be a very part of it…….
First in my option any time a knife is used, (when it is released) where the wounds were placed and what was done, you are going to feel this was indeed sexual rage. I think we will find out it was not just stab wounds. This was not a random kill, the person that did this was familiar with the weapon, and he knew these girls, and has been watching them and the house.
These special guests all had really good points to make about this killer in Idaho. From the lights being on or off / wounds on the victims / who was killed 1st. Male suspect without doubt. Great people to have on.
I've only been following true crime on TH-cam for about a year and a half. I just heard of your channel this morning. Glad I found it. Good show and panel. Thank you!
Kaylee’s dad is just stating his version of what makes sense out of all the scenarios he’s reading online. He views himself as the protector of his family and he’s feeling like he failed (WHICH HE DID NOT). I think him taking on that misplaced guilt is causing him to read all the speculations and then he’s telling a combination that he thinks fits best
💯 I am a certified victim advocate and you can see it in his face - he’s struggling and spinning. Trying to make sense of something senseless and feeling powerless in the face of tragedy. He needs some trained support. I know the FBI has a advocacy team. I wonder if they are out there?
Not sure why the criminal's parents are not being profiled. Criminal seems to have very troublesome relationship with parents and how they were brought up.
Kaylee's family is in shock and her dad feels like he needs to do something besides wait for the cops to solve it. They have experienced severe trauma and also have no answers, so they are exhausting themselves trying to solve this crime.
Their public reactions are still highly unusual for family members of murder victims. Their personality may contribute to this, but, still highly unusual.
I have followed this case from the beginning, and from what I have learned so far, Dr. Brucato hit the nail on the head as far as identifying the mindset of the killer. We are at 25:00 in the video, and I have not seen the rest of it yet, but I have become a fan of surviving the survivor because the guests are amazing. Now if I could just figure out what that thing is in the background behind his head.
@@drgaryb13 You have absolutely made my day by reading these comments! I learned more from you than I did from the other three, although they are also quite interesting. Where I live it has become late in the day, and I plan to start this whole video over tomorrow over coffee, because there was so much to learn. I have followed this case from the beginning and I have formed my own conclusions. And everything you said just convinced me that I was correct. The guy I suspect fits your profile. I do have a question. Since his behavior is so aberrant, could he escape justice by pleading mental illness?
@@drgaryb13 I have been searching for a video I saw recently, and I have looked on TH-cam, Facebook, Instagram with no luck. It may have been taken down. Someone has said that Jack Showalter had an alter ego named Terry. When I saw the video I’m referring to, I immediately made a connection. It was purportedly by a female named Donna Goldman. Prominently displayed on the upper right side was a ghost drawn in drips of blood. There were three scenes, the first displayed a quote, and I really wish I had written it down. The whole picture was very well done and I thought when I looked at it that a real artist had constructed that page. The second one had the same ghost but instead of a quote, it was the person saying that loving her was the best and the worst thing in his life, and that she had ghosted him, so he would ghost her. That’s when I thought oh my goodness, she was ghosting him at the food truck. If he has alternate personalities, I think Donna Goldman could be one of them. It would explain a lot, at least it explains a lot to me. I’m sure you understand the term ghosting someone. I sat there thinking and realized that while she was separated from Jack Decoeur, Kaylee may have briefly dated Jack Showalter, only to realize there was something too strange about him. So she quickly dropped him and then ghosted him. That scenario could explain the killer’s intimate knowledge of the layout of the house. The three scenes were created immediately after the murders and then posted. I have heard nothing is really lost once it appears on social media. Even if it has been taken down, someone skilled at doing such things should be able to find it.
If he's gotten familiar with the rooms previously I would think he would know about the basement bedroom*Gary's explanation towards the end as to the why with modern violent crime here in the US was absolutely spot on and fascinating imo
@@CC12398 I’m assuming you mean his family and friends to the media? Honestly I’m not sure. Maybe we’re not hearing everything or they decided not to right now and wait. If someone else is found responsible, and the hoodie guy was my kid, I would sue certain voices out their in media land for defamation. He has to be looked at, but we really don’t know anything yet. Some of these channels are reckless both hosts and the people commenting.
@@tomd1434 Oh absolutely, it can ruin people. If I were the parents I would demand the police publicly explain why and how he was cleared as a suspect. If the police refused to do this I would find a way to do it anyhow. The silence is almost as disturbing as the public accusations imo
@@CC12398 It’s possible the police publicly said he was cleared, but privately he wasn’t in order to possibly give him a false sense of security while they try and build a case. I understand why they’re not releasing certain information. It could hurt the future prosecution and that would be awful
First, great discussion. All panel members had interesting perspectives. Regarding the 911 call, my understanding is one of the girls from the 1st floor came up and saw Ethen dead and ran out of the home and passed out and someone outside of the home walking by saw her, used her phone and called 911. So they were not referring to one of the deceased individuals when they said someone was unconscious.
That's what I've heard about the 911 call the past couple of days. It really annoyed and saddened me that the surviving roommates were being vilified by people for not calling 911 themselves, before having details about exactly what occurred. Those poor young women are also victims. ❤❤
What I heard was that one of the girls from the first floor found Ethan on the second floor and ran out of the house I believe she had dialed 911. But she was so distraught and apparently passed out and the one she had called to come to the house arrived and picked up the phone and finished the call.
Very informative and interesting guests. I watched Dr. Gary B on another podcast and I swear he is my favorite behavior expert ever. I could listen to this man spitting knowledge for the rest of my life. Thank you for bringing this to us.
@@drgaryb13 haha I am so glad you saw it. I watched CM video 3 times and then went on a hunt to find more podcasts that feature you. Not stalker just love listening to your knowledge. I promise. 💜
To say that Kaylee’s father could have any involvement in this… makes my blood boil. I’m no expert but it is clear to me what Kaylee’s father is about. He wants and needs to know what happened to his daughter. He is a distraught, desperate, grief-stricken father that loved his daughter and needs answers. I don’t necessarily think he’s going about it in the right way but I’m not in his shoes so I refuse to judge him.
As a woman, I think realistically that a woman could try to kill with a knife but in most cases wouldn't have the strength to overpower 3 other people, including another man.
@@annresnik6059 Yes, women absolutely DO knife murders. Jodi Arias and Ezra McCandless both did. And those were both Ego/Rage murders, intended to be personal, painful, violent, and degrading. Of men they had been in relationships with. But these murders? No.. impersonal murders, of women - multiple women, especially with a knife or knives. That is absolutely the work of an inadequate man. And it is a pretty good bet that we can guess what side his political sympathies are.
@@greenman6141 , this is what Leftism does to people, politicizes everything. Damn it, this is an existential tragedy, not the result of political obsession.
Great panel I think we all needed this so many people confused an misinformation out there. I think this will really help get some minds on the right track ..
I'm SHOCKED by how accurate Gary was about the killer a month ago. Everything he says aligns with Bryan. Impressive analysis.
Gary was spot on!
😅😅😅
I just re-watched this since the arrest, and Dr. Brucato described what he believed would be the killer's personality, and Bryan Kohberger's personality, based on how people have described him, is spot on.
It gave me chills
Yes! Absolutely! Spot ON!
100%! I was in awe
I really dislike statistics, because not everything falls into boxes. When my child went missing and I was given all of these stats repeatedly by LE and why he wasn’t missing ( our child was at University, his fiancé of 4 yrs had just graduated from University ) and LE kept telling us “oh he just went to LA with his buddies.” We knew he wouldn’t bug out on Valentine’s Day when he had a special gift made for his fiancé & a dinner planned. We talked to him at least 3x a week & helped with finances. Yet we had to fight LE to listen to us, bc LE kept repeating he would show up in 10 days, stats shows this. He showed up in 6 weeks. He was murdered. Young ppl, pls keep in touch with family, let them know your travel plans. They will fight for you when you need it the very most! Stay safe, vet your friends carefully! Parents support your children & love them. Each day you have with them is a true gift.
So sorry to hear about your son.
My heart goes out to you. 💔💔💔
I am so very terribly sorry, what a tragic loss. May you reach a day when you can draw a deep breathe without pain in your heart.
❤️🙏
😭💔💜🤗That is so sad. What a tragedy! Deepest condolences on your loss. Can't imagine the grief you had to endure. May you be comforted that he's at peace now.
BTW this is the ONLY podcast / true crime my wife and I have been able to sit through actual adults who know what they're talking about ...so thank you so much
Retired NYPD Detective. Duty Ron and CSI beh. Expert trainer /author consultant, retired NYPD. Ed Wallace . (They are GREAT STRAIGHT UP. THE POD CAST IS called " DUTY RON." . Also "PROFILING EVIL " with Mike King, ret. NYPD det. Behavioral . Author too. Also great show. These guys know what they're talking about. Watch them for intelligent discussion and experience.
I am new to this channel and I love the expert opinions BUT they are mixing up the facts and some details which is kinda frustrating. I will definitely be listening to this channel more.
I don’t know if this house was on or near the university campus but I think learning from this there needs to be cameras, this would resolve some issues?!
If they had parties there in the house people over share when drunk so maybe the killers/killer knew the layout who’s bedrooms it doesn’t sound spur of the moment it sounds somewhat planned!
I agree, so many pod casts are nonsense, tedious, and uninformative. Too much chatter and speculation. Thank you for good content and delivery.
How ON POINT was the psychological profile provided by Gary!!!! (if BK is proven the perpetrator)
Incredible!
The guy on the bottom-right is a keeper. He's the only one who is not repeating what other talking heads have said already. He's got points that I haven't heard anywhere before.
He also lost points for all that camera fumbling, shaking, adjustments, and twitching and stuff. I was getting dizzy there. I would like to recommend him get a $10 tripod for his next visit.
@@jcpenny3606 🤗 me too.
He brought up a couple of very good points not mentioned before that I had not thought of, all without speculating on any suspect(s).
Imagine being more concerned about someone’s camera during a zoom call, than the value of information. Pathetic
@@pawsome1859 what are the good points for you?
This guy, Gary Brucato (sp.?), raised several salient points about the probable personality of this killer. Fresh points and highly plausible. Such a keeper.
Hats of to this lovely lady guest speaker. I have watched and read about her, and she is a icon in our lifetime in bringing crime facts to all of us.
Legend
What's her name? I'd love to do some research on her.
@@We_Are_All_Vultures i think she might be Ann Wolbert Burgess, not 100% sure
@@chiefbogo3282 thanks so much. I appreciate the reply.
@@chiefbogo3282 - Correct
Is it just me or when Dr Ann smiles 😊 I find myself Smiling 🙂 too . ❤ she seems so loving and kind
It's not just you 😊
Fantastic panel, I could listen to Dr Gary Brucato all day, I think he is spot on with his analysis.
I came here for Dr. Gary Brucato, but completely enjoyed all the guests. Great job!
Amazing peek inside these experts’ minds on the assailant’s profile. Thank you for carefully elaborating aspects of who the killer would be and what goes on in his mind for all of us to deeper understand. Helps a ton with lowering our risk level and staying aware of our surroundings and who we let in, period. Let this type of crime never happen again. Justice is coming. 🙏🏽🕊️🕯️
Thanks Ketchup
We should also be far more aware of how we effect, treat or, ignore others. One is preventative harm coming to us, the other is harm coming to anyone. Law enforcement uses the acts of mass murderers as political force to ratchet down on freedoms because they think they can use or believe that control will save people. It's actually more succesful to just stop ignoring the perpetuated environments that create criminals than stop them once they've killed. Humans are born with two things, the expectation that their vulnerable cries for help will be met with nurturing and that once mature enough they will be able to exert free will. You let them down on the first one, they will violently force the second.
In hindsight, this panel (especially Dr Brucato) was spot on about the suspect (assuming the correct perpetrator is the person currently in custody). Phenomenal show and phenomenal guests.
I’ve never seen this show before. Very well done from all your guests of course. This guy Gary is super sharp! I’ve learned a ton from this. Very thought provoking. Great work!
Thanks, BDN, I appreciate that.
This is a dream team panel. Please bring them back
Love it when investigators keep an open mind instead of creating their own narrative.
Like the killer wearing night vision goggles?
@A Z That’s not so far fetched! I know a person who bought a gun mounted night vision goggles ( so you can only see out of your dominant eye ) he used it to see where the raccoons were getting into his yard to his garbage. It is illegal to hunt at night, so idk why they sell them(?) but he found the issue & fixed it. Btw, that gun mounted night vision goggle was not expensive & you can watch Deer eating at night in his orchard. We watched him sneak up to the Deer & he was able to touch one! It was really cool! But now it’s really scary.
@@raindancer2460 I also know someone with that same item for his glock. its cool.
@@AZ-kr6ff lol, she probably should be more specific on which investigator/profiler/psychologist she is talking about
The third man saying the killer would be someone people would find odd, gave the best description of what the killer would be like around people.
If you constantly think about violence and killing you would appear odd to others without a doubt....
That reminds me of the Kristen Smart case ! Everyone said that Paul Flores was an odd guy and wouldnt be suprised that he did that.
When JS drank, he "became" another person entirely. That persona even had it's own name (Terry). Xana commented on a pic of JS hugging a bear something like "Well hello, Terry." If that's not odd, I don't know what is
@@latitude1904 This case also gives me a Ted Bundy vibe when he got in a killing frenzy attacking a sorority in Florida...
@@latitude1904 Who is "JS" ?
Fantastic lineup of experts in there own field. I could listen to Gary for hours.
Yeah he’s great. Thoughtful
@@SurvivingTheSurvivorgreat channel! Any chance you can tone down the ads? I’ve never seen so many ads in one show before. This was my second time watching and it happened both times.
@@EatYourCookies_ It's TH-cam that decides how many ads, not the channel. I don't think they can help it.
So satisfying to listen to articulate, informed, knowledgeable individuals Thank you
This forum is probably the most informative and intelligent out of all the other videos! You guys are so interesting and insightful!
Dr. Brucato is unbelievably intelligent! I’m a first time watcher and I’ll be back. Very thought provoking conversation…love Anne…long standing expert and I love hearing their perspective. With so little info, very interesting
Another group of amazing guests. Joel, your channel just gets better and better. I agree the Phd guest is invaluable. All three are so interesting, but he was fascinating.
First time watcher…what a phenomenal panel! Exactly what I’ve been looking for! This case is so sad 😭
This is a very knowledgeable panel of professionals. I appreciate their informed, dispassionate and rational analysis. Also appreciate the moderator's questions toward each guest to obtain each panelist's perspective and expertise. Thx so much.
Ann Burgess is so knowledgeable, I could listen to her all day!
This channel is quickly becoming my absolute favorite.....
Me to
This is the best podcast I've seen dealing with this issue.... the guest make it that way, I guess.
I really love the theme music!
And I love how the host doesn't talk over the guest, this is a great podcast.
@@DanielMulloy-bg6gwhost ain’t bad either!
Wow, what quality guests. Thank you all.
Excellent panel! I especially enjoyed Gary's input, but they all had intriguing perspectives. Thank you.
Gary is an excellent guest, incredible insight given. Definitely want more from him. Less ads though, never watched a video with so many.
That’s TH-cam. Not us!
@@SurvivingTheSurvivor Fair enough then. 😊
@@indigoblue4791 they’re lying to you. They were able to add all those mid roll ads in. If they wanted, they could’ve kept it down to 1 ad at the beginning, 1 at the end. TH-camrs love to pretend they don’t know how TH-cam works and blame TH-cam for everything.
@@DanielleStarry I know you're right but his reply had me doubt myself. This is the first time I've came across this channel. I must admit Gary's input had me hang on far longer than l would on any other video crammed with ads like this one. I won't watch anymore from this channel because l imagine they're all an ad nightmare. AND him lying like that too....I've nothing too learn from them. Thanks for your reply!! 😍
@@indigoblue4791 I totally understand that TH-camrs want to get paid for their work - I just don’t appreciate being lied to. Just tell the truth. Say, “I work hard on my TH-cam videos, and want to be paid for my work. The ads are skippable, and I’m sorry for the bother” Everyone would totally understand and respect the truth!
As I watch this show, I am riveted by the quality of thought. And the hosting job is really top drawer. totally informed on the info, but just directing the input from the guests. Worthy of 5 million views on a major network. Keep on truckin'!
Fantastic guests Joel! Love the different perspectives on the cases. Always something to learn.
Thanks Maui
Yes, thanks for bringing us such a wealth of knowledge!
At around 24-26 minutes the man on the bottom right talks about envy and how the individual could be lashing out at those he perceives as accepted, desirable, loved, and socially relaxed. I like many others during adolescence have experienced this envy. It can be quite painful and I can remember the frustration, sadness, and sometimes anger at my own social difficulties and not being as accepted as I would have liked. Fortunately I worked through it like most people. We don’t know it it’s the motive but I can see how a disturbed individual could decide to project their inner turmoil onto others. The inability to tolerate and work through the anger and frustration can certainly be all it might take which is disturbing in and of itself.
@@jo-eo9ld
True. Remember this is likely a very disturbed individual. They’re not thinking logically like you and I. Could be a way to gain perceived control over others. Again illogical and disturbed.
this guy in the lower right corner has a lot of wisdom.....
This was very well done. Appreciate the input from you and your guests. Most all of us watching social media true crime have had many, if not all, these examples in our minds. I pray the murderer has or will make big mistakes and not remain elusive. In my young years, I have had stalkers, very strange guys that attached themselves to me for no reason, guys that were immediately angry with me for being out going, outspoken, and almost fearless. I trained and rode huge horses and they seemed to feel that made me a woman “being overpowering.” There was more than a few times I actually hid from some of them. It hit me that I was at the beginning of women’s lib. Yep. The guest stating it caused more hate crimes and DV, if you will, toward women being liberated was something I watched first hand. Even my mother felt I needed to realize that could happen and would get angry with me for expressing opinions and “no being lady-like.” When the videos hit YT showing the girls “putting themselves out there” I posted that while they were so very beautiful and could do that, it wasn’t the best/safest behavior, as I learned from experience. Thank you again for your content and allowing us a platform for a public comment/missive. 🙏🏻
@Debra Weber Yes, I don't think many people can fully understand & see the gravity of the darker aspects of women's lib. Even if you just look at how women have evolved to do pretty much anything, everything but the guys didn't get the memo to catch up, cook dinners, grocery shop, clean the house, do laundry, etc., women's lib was supposed to be about equal rights, not women to it all & then some & then we subconsciously hate them for it ;) lol. but not lol.
You're very right. All you have to do nowadays is be in the wrong place at the wrong time and one of these psycho animals can become attached to you through no fault of your own.
Social media is dangerous.
Fantastic panel. Absolutely Fantastic. Thank you for bringing to the public this information.
fantastic show and guests! Thank you for continuing to bring this quality programming
Thanks!
Wow what amazing guests! I agree with the Dr. Bracato on absolutely everything he said. Envy, meticulous planning, obsessing, rage, odd-duck-type, choice of intimate weapon, all resonate as accurate. Unless the police KNOW who the person is and it isn't as meticulous as they are letting on, but they don't have enough actual evidence for conviction.
Thanks, Jennifer! I'm glad we are on the same page.
I agree. I thought from the beginning that this was no college student crime, this was a psychopath.
and he mentioned them getting into that hunting mode which plays along with the fact the coroner said each victim had a specific lethal wound, which to me means he cut their throats so to mask any noise which also leads to the excessive blood dripping to the outer wall
Explained Jack S. exactly, guy from food truck. But police already ruled him out and he is now in Africa.
Envy and rejection (or imagined rejection) are what I've been leaning toward. There are so many avenues though. Love this panel.
Wow! Fantastic guest. Very informative. First timer here.
Thank you for adult conversation with such awesome professionals.
This is one of the best analysis of the Idaho murders that I’ve seen.
Joel, what a great panel!!!! This was so interesting; I was glued for the entire interview! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Excellent guests sharing their insightful expertise in a very professional way.
This is great. To put a group of pros together, and work through this. Very insightful.
GREAT panel! The envy factor lovely Ann mentioned stuck out to me. All the victims are to be envied. And the perp must of had a real thrill in ending their great successful futures. Like, see, so much for your great lives, and I am the one who put an end to it.
I'm watching this on January 6, several days after the arrest of the alleged perpetrator because I wanted to see how accurate you would be. I'm extremely impressed by all four of you and I will definitely be looking each of you up in the future whenever I'm looking for answers that I can have confidence in. Thank you, you definitely have my respect.
BTW, I would really like to hear your opinion of Israel Keyes, I think he could have cleared up many murders if that case had been handled better.
Please have Ann (legend!) and Gary (so insightful!) back on again. This was an excellent discussion. Thank you. Have subbed.
Something I believe overlooked. The killer knew how drunk and passed out these vulnerable souls where. The killer had the upper hand and took advantage.
Yes, I thought of that. Why else would he have the chutzpah to break into a house occupied by 6 people? I doubt he anticipated a male being there, but he knew the occupants had been drinking and waited for the lights to go out. Once they were in bed asleep, the victims were even more vulnerable. I wonder if the perpetrator could see the lights in the house go out from his own residence.
@@polkadots716 yep or he is sitting in that parking lot at the back of the house.
Yeah he stalked them
Maybe it was the bartender.
Yes they were seen at food truck drunk n killer was there
Easily the best info and account I’ve seen on this sad event. Theses folks know what they’re talking about loved the interview.
I feel like everyone in that house was targeted. Perp got in through back window or sliding door. Goes straight up to 3rd floor. Either Maddie or Kaylee was able to let out a short scream. That scream woke up Ethan and left bedroom to see what was going on. Perp came down to 2nd floor and came face to face with Ethan. Ethan turned and tried to get back in bedroom and lock the door, but he didn’t get door closed and perp attacked him. Xana was awaken by their struggle and was able to fight for her life when perp attacked her. Perp then went to the 1st floor and realized both of those bedroom doors were locked He knew if he broke down one door, it would wake up the last tenant so he just bolted out of the front door. Just my opinion
I actually feel that the perp would eliminate Ethan first as he would be the biggest threat physically. Then Xana obviously at which point he would travel upstairs to Maddie and Kaylee. I also feel like that's why Kaylee's Dad said he didn't have to go upstairs. That's just my opinion but it makes sense of what most criminals would do. Logically.
How would you know that though?!
@@Ms.Norths.Musings When the Dad said He didn't need go upstairs ",it was rumoured that the girls were sleeping in empty room on same floor,as it was warmer n near furnace!?? Idk. .LE said they have not revealed any information to anyone not even parents so again..the poor Dad is angry n grieving,so speaking out of context?.
Makes the most sense cause the front door was wide open at 8-830
Am makes sense
@Veronica Gower I don't think he's speaking out of context more grasping at straws since the families are getting no information at all. Not even how they died. I feel the dad is gathering info from online the funeral home or homes and trying to make sense of it. I can understand le not giving any info but then I can't for the families as well. I honestly think if they were given info and told not to speak out about it they wouldn't. Them not getting info is making it harder for them in this already horrific tragedy. They are victims as well and don't feel they are being treated as such. Just my opinion.
Great show! You are an excellent interviewer and your guests are top notch!! I'm hooked!
Your videos on this case, with these fascinating experts, are top notch! Keep them coming
Tremendous insight from all your guests, especially the PhD. This was wonderful
program.
And Kaylee was only there for the weekend, she was leaving Sun., she had already moved out. she was just visiting and I think the killer knew that and it was his last chance to get her.
Absolutely agree! What’s the chances.... of it being just coincidence (she was leaving/just visiting!).
Her mom said she told her she would be home Tuesday
Her roommates told some friends she was coming in and told her ex. ???
How do u know that?
Kaylee posted on instagram that she was in Moscow that weekend…….I bet he stalked her social media.
This is 1 of my favorite channels🎉
I am totally fascinated by the insights of these four individuals- thank you so much for this. You can't get rid of me now...
Hi! I'm fascinated by the man in the lower right corner! He is a brilliant man! I wish he could be hired to work on the case. All of your guests are great. So glad I found you!
Thanks, Elizabeth. Kind of you.
@@drgaryb13 Gotta agree with this, you are amazing. Such a wealth of information and intelligence. Perfectly confirmed whom I view as the most likely suspect as well.
@@crownedeye6421 - Thanks!
@@drgaryb13 Wish you worked on the case tbh. :)
@@drgaryb13 Also, I want to commend you for going through all of these comments and responding to those directed at you, love that! Much appreciated.
This is an excellent and useful contribution to the ongoing analyses regarding the Idaho tragedy, and is a standard well above most, in my opinion! Thank you 😇
I think Gary nailed it. Fascinating.
I’ve rewatched this, it is truly one of the BEST in depth analysis (pre arrest). Would you please schedule the panel when the trial starts. Thank you.
FABULOUS show with very professional guests who brought interesting areas of expertise to the table. Thank you!
Love this video. Better than any other I’ve seen this far. Really explains what’s possible. So scary. I can’t even look at a papercut…. Please keep following this case. These poor kids!
Well, officially I'm completely hooked on your show. This case is beyond heartbreaking 💔. This Evil Creature took the lives of four wonderful human beings who had bright futures. Thank You for mentioning the possibility of my theory I greatly appreciate it.
Thanks so much for watching. Please help spread the word.
Liverpool in the uk here. I am studying for a criminology and psychology degree at John Moore’s University and I have been watching this case from day one. This is so clear to me that this has nothing to do with gangs/drugs or the like, this is clearly a crime of passion, an angry individual who is known to the 4 students who had an idea of the layout of the house in order to make his way around it in the dark early hours. Clearly been watching this house for the right time to act an had this planned out. Hopefully he is caught soon for the family’s sake
Liverpool also. Do you think the dog would react being in a room with the killer? React in an abnormal way?
@@jmay5059 hey Jo, they said it’s still a puppy really and that the house was a party house so I don’t think the dog would be aggressive if anything a bit of a dope but I also hear that the dog was locked in a room out the way so that says a lot. Maybe the person knows the dog an put him away before going on his rampage. I personally think it’s kaylee’s ex ginger jack or jack s who seems to have vanished and gone to Africa
They can smell things and are a lot smarter than we think. It's so sad. If a dog can smell cancer I still think it's reaction could help.
@@jmay5059 I know but with it being a party house it was use to loud noises. The police were always getting called out to that house due to loud music and noise so the fog being locked in a room out the way wouldn’t of been aware what was about to take place
This has shocked me. Its horrific
This was fascinating - please have this panel on again....thank you.
Hi to all, Anne and the FBI guy are just so great could listen to these 2 all day, the fbi guy just flows in conversation on this subject, knowledge is king, thank you all
Thanks for listening
Yesss. I’ve said this from the start. I believe this is somebody who feels rejected by society or feels rejected by this particular group of people. I’ve also said that right now he/she is probably watching their P’s and Q’s, however if this turns into a cold case, I think their ego is inflated to where they’ll be able to strike again. Maybe not in Idaho though. Overall it’s horrifying to think about this turning into a cold case. 4 victims who deserve justice. I know law enforcement is doing everything that they can ❤
it takes years/months to become a cold case we are only in our 4th week. So much DNA and leads to go through will take weeks/months. Keep the faith people.
This was interesting and worthwhile. Also, ordered both Ann and Gary’s books. Thank you. New subscriber.
Great guest speakers, wonderful information. Thank you.
I have always thought it could be envy of the whole group by one person. The four were frequently sharing their shared experiences on Facebook and other social media and they seemed to have this "perfect "joy and happiness together. I think this was the specific characteristic of their group that could have promoted envy and profound hurt in others. It would be awful for any person who might have been or felt "rejected" by this particular group. I'm a group psychoanalyst, UK.
Envy isn’t Green like they say it’s Red. Red as blood
Sally Willis I've thought about this extremely important factor as well! It's helpful to know that a group psychoanalyst has verified it.
I'm aware that situations can look much better on Facebook etc than in reality, or even from the outside looking in, in real life, so it would be a shame if it was the main cause of four precious young people losing their lives! It's a tragedy that it happened for ANY reason though. 😥
@Sally Willis what a great comment.
I was thinking the same. It reads as someone who hates what these victims stood for, while at the same time wishing that they could be a very part of it…….
@@LanaK83 Well said.
I've often thought the same.
First in my option any time a knife is used, (when it is released) where the wounds were placed and what was done, you are going to feel this was indeed sexual rage. I think we will find out it was not just stab wounds. This was not a random kill, the person that did this was familiar with the weapon, and he knew these girls, and has been watching them and the house.
I know crimes like this can be sexual rage, but usually not 4 people at once
I think 2 of the girls were…the other 2 were woken up by what was going on…
I love how Anne is smiling the whole time. Sweetheart
These special guests all had really good points to make about this killer in Idaho. From the lights being on or off / wounds on the victims / who was killed 1st. Male suspect without doubt. Great people to have on.
I've only been following true crime on TH-cam for about a year and a half. I just heard of your channel this morning. Glad I found it. Good show and panel. Thank you!
What a tremendous panel. Thank you!
Great panel with real professionals...
Great show...
Thank you Ann Burgess and Gary Brucato !
Heard way too much from Jeff Wood.
An MS 13 guy in college town Idaho, yeah right! Dumb.
Thank you so much for having these guests on! I have the book The New Evil and Dr Burgess contributed to that book too.
Last comment… really great panel. Thanks for putting this together. Am enjoying your videos and look forward to more.☮️
I love this phd guy. He is so interesting and full of knowledge. Get him back!!
Kaylee’s dad is just stating his version of what makes sense out of all the scenarios he’s reading online. He views himself as the protector of his family and he’s feeling like he failed (WHICH HE DID NOT). I think him taking on that misplaced guilt is causing him to read all the speculations and then he’s telling a combination that he thinks fits best
💯 I am a certified victim advocate and you can see it in his face - he’s struggling and spinning. Trying to make sense of something senseless and feeling powerless in the face of tragedy. He needs some trained support. I know the FBI has a advocacy team. I wonder if they are out there?
Yeah and he’s jeopardizing the case.
Not sure why the criminal's parents are not being profiled. Criminal seems to have very troublesome relationship with parents and how they were brought up.
@@JLizard what criminal?
Can u really blame him,look at wht he"s up against?!lt's tough seeing as 2wht he's going thru,Steve b patient*
Kaylee's family is in shock and her dad feels like he needs to do something besides wait for the cops to solve it. They have experienced severe trauma and also have no answers, so they are exhausting themselves trying to solve this crime.
Agreed 👍!
he is the man of the house also has the responsibility of Maddie; they call them sisters.
I wonder if the hired detective would be allowed in the crime scene? There are lots of LE egos to deal with.
@@celiajarvis3168
Definitely not.
Their public reactions are still highly unusual for family members of murder victims. Their personality may contribute to this, but, still highly unusual.
I have followed this case from the beginning, and from what I have learned so far, Dr. Brucato hit the nail on the head as far as identifying the mindset of the killer. We are at 25:00 in the video, and I have not seen the rest of it yet, but I have become a fan of surviving the survivor because the guests are amazing. Now if I could just figure out what that thing is in the background behind his head.
It's an art print, haha
@@drgaryb13 You have absolutely made my day by reading these comments! I learned more from you than I did from the other three, although they are also quite interesting. Where I live it has become late in the day, and I plan to start this whole video over tomorrow over coffee, because there was so much to learn. I have followed this case from the beginning and I have formed my own conclusions. And everything you said just convinced me that I was correct. The guy I suspect fits your profile. I do have a question. Since his behavior is so aberrant, could he escape justice by pleading mental illness?
@@libbyworkman3459 - Best I not answer this, as it's impossible to say what involvement I may eventually have on this case.
@@drgaryb13 which in itself says a lot. Thank you.
@@drgaryb13 I have been searching for a video I saw recently, and I have looked on TH-cam, Facebook, Instagram with no luck. It may have been taken down. Someone has said that Jack Showalter had an alter ego named Terry. When I saw the video I’m referring to, I immediately made a connection. It was purportedly by a female named Donna Goldman. Prominently displayed on the upper right side was a ghost drawn in drips of blood. There were three scenes, the first displayed a quote, and I really wish I had written it down. The whole picture was very well done and I thought when I looked at it that a real artist had constructed that page. The second one had the same ghost but instead of a quote, it was the person saying that loving her was the best and the worst thing in his life, and that she had ghosted him, so he would ghost her. That’s when I thought oh my goodness, she was ghosting him at the food truck. If he has alternate personalities, I think Donna Goldman could be one of them. It would explain a lot, at least it explains a lot to me. I’m sure you understand the term ghosting someone. I sat there thinking and realized that while she was separated from Jack Decoeur, Kaylee may have briefly dated Jack Showalter, only to realize there was something too strange about him. So she quickly dropped him and then ghosted him. That scenario could explain the killer’s intimate knowledge of the layout of the house. The three scenes were created immediately after the murders and then posted. I have heard nothing is really lost once it appears on social media. Even if it has been taken down, someone skilled at doing such things should be able to find it.
I live 60 miles north of Moscow, ID.
I find these specialists fascinating with their information. Frightening, they walk amongest us.
Wow! Dr. Brucato hit the nail on the head.
Wow! I had not even watched this yet and know it is going to be great!
Same and glad I did!
If he's gotten familiar with the rooms previously I would think he would know about the basement bedroom*Gary's explanation towards the end as to the why with modern violent crime here in the US was absolutely spot on and fascinating imo
Agreed. He knew his stuff. All 3 gets were great
@@tomd1434 Do you think it is strange how no one is defending the hoodie guy?
@@CC12398
I’m assuming you mean his family and friends to the media? Honestly I’m not sure. Maybe we’re not hearing everything or they decided not to right now and wait. If someone else is found responsible, and the hoodie guy was my kid, I would sue certain voices out their in media land for defamation. He has to be looked at, but we really don’t know anything yet. Some of these channels are reckless both hosts and the people commenting.
@@tomd1434 Oh absolutely, it can ruin people.
If I were the parents I would demand the police publicly explain why and how he was cleared as a suspect. If the police refused to do this I would find a way to do it anyhow.
The silence is almost as disturbing as the public accusations imo
@@CC12398
It’s possible the police publicly said he was cleared, but privately he wasn’t in order to possibly give him a false sense of security while they try and build a case. I understand why they’re not releasing certain information. It could hurt the future prosecution and that would be awful
First, great discussion. All panel members had interesting perspectives. Regarding the 911 call, my understanding is one of the girls from the 1st floor came up and saw Ethen dead and ran out of the home and passed out and someone outside of the home walking by saw her, used her phone and called 911. So they were not referring to one of the deceased individuals when they said someone was unconscious.
That's what I've heard about the 911 call the past couple of days. It really annoyed and saddened me that the surviving roommates were being vilified by people for not calling 911 themselves, before having details about exactly what occurred. Those poor young women are also victims. ❤❤
& ask them to report on it??
Call the local news channels
Sandra D you're the 2nd person to state this. If you're in Moscow why not ca
What I heard was that one of the girls from the first floor found Ethan on the second floor and ran out of the house I believe she had dialed 911. But she was so distraught and apparently passed out and the one she had called to come to the house arrived and picked up the phone and finished the call.
Very informative and interesting guests. I watched Dr. Gary B on another podcast and I swear he is my favorite behavior expert ever. I could listen to this man spitting knowledge for the rest of my life. Thank you for bringing this to us.
That's a wonderful compliment, thank you!
@@drgaryb13 haha I am so glad you saw it. I watched CM video 3 times and then went on a hunt to find more podcasts that feature you. Not stalker just love listening to your knowledge. I promise. 💜
I can direct you to lots of TV appearances I did where I comment on a lot of other offenders.
@@drgaryb13 that would be great thank you. 😊
To start with, I was the psychologist who comments on offenders in every other episode of "First Blood" on A&E. I started with the Hansen episode.
Dr Brucato absolutely nailed the profile.
Love Ann Burgess!!! Her book is amazing ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
The guy with the book is very interesting to listen to, good insights and explanations….great video!
joel you have outdone yourself with this excellent piece
Amazing how on point the panel was
I totally agree with Gary on every point. He reinforces my idea of who the top suspect is. Great discussion.
Dr. Bracato is right on!
To say that Kaylee’s father could have any involvement in this… makes my blood boil. I’m no expert but it is clear to me what Kaylee’s father is about. He wants and needs to know what happened to his daughter. He is a distraught, desperate, grief-stricken father that loved his daughter and needs answers. I don’t necessarily think he’s going about it in the right way but I’m not in his shoes so I refuse to judge him.
"I don't think there's any chance this is not a male suspect" It's great when someone just says the truth without waffle.
It's sooo nice.
As a woman, I think realistically that a woman could try to kill with a knife but in most cases wouldn't have the strength to overpower 3 other people, including another man.
@@annresnik6059 Yes, women absolutely DO knife murders. Jodi Arias and Ezra McCandless both did. And those were both Ego/Rage murders, intended to be personal, painful, violent, and degrading. Of men they had been in relationships with.
But these murders? No.. impersonal murders, of women - multiple women, especially with a knife or knives.
That is absolutely the work of an inadequate man. And it is a pretty good bet that we can guess what side his political sympathies are.
@@greenman6141 , this is what Leftism does to people, politicizes everything. Damn it, this is an existential tragedy, not the result of political obsession.
@@bobtaylor170 Some people can only cope with incidents in isolation.
Others look at context.
They're the ones who can change society.
Great panel I think we all needed this so many people confused an misinformation out there. I think this will really help get some minds on the right track ..
Great show! LOVE hearing from the professionals!!!
I agree with the FBI professor from Boston… he’s spot on
What a great source of information