I don’t mean to be disrespectful to Yossi, Markus nor Kevin. But you just don’t follow a complete stranger into the wilderness. It is as simple as that. It is a cautionary tale to say the least,
@@iamhere1315 you are saying that because you are young, in the past there wasn’t “bad person” like today, people were nice with each others, sorry for my english
@@matteo2837 I disagree, on the contrary I believe people were just as bad possibly worse than today. Serial killers, rapes and murders were more common than in comparison to today, along with more information nowadays informing people of the evil in this world. Imagine then when not nearly as much was reported and found due to lack of technology and schema. Do write back I’d like to converse further
I agree, it’s of course common sense to say no to following strangers, but in their defense I will say that Yossi grew up in Israel, a country of extremely strict laws and regulations, most of them founded on austere religious beliefs, so kidnapping in Israel is almost nonexistent in comparison to say Mexico or Bolivia, where laws are much less regulated and the cartels are almost as strong as the polizia. So yeah he travelled to Bolivia completely unaware that this was a much different territory, not just in the scenery but in every way. definitely learned his lesson needless to say- but most of us are naive at 21.
@@paularrigan4441 Bro , I don’t know where are you from, but I’m from europe and I can tell you that in the past there were less”bad person” now with people coming from Africa there are a lot of problems that in the past there weren’t
After watching the movie Jungle yesterday I felt so sad for Markus so I searched his name on google.Luckily, you made this video.Thank you very much Bryan. Markus really deserves to be remembered...
I agree! And that's exactly why I made this video. Thank you for watching , and your feedback! This story just tore me up inside.. because Markus was such an amazing guy. He had such a big heart and God only knows what happened to him, or what he went through:(
I just finished the movie and my heart broke for Markus and how they treated him . It’s such an odd story tho… it’s almost as if certain details have been omitted purposely. I don’t understand the logic behind the decision to split up and build a make shift raft to try to go down a dangerous canyon. Something had to occur to prompt them to want to split up . Why was a Kevin so hellbent on splitting up ?There’s a big chunk of info missing we will never know bc Yosi and Kevin are the only ones who lived to tell the story
Meet a complete stranger who wants to take them in the jungle on a mystery trip...stranger is the only one with a gun, they don't bring no supplies....I think I can see where this is going.
@@dinglbarry1275 Yep, Karl was not that stranger to them, moreoever he was like their companion beacuse they spent time before they went for trip. I don't say that he was already their "bro", but they had their reasons to belive him that he knows this jungle if they spent with him like 2 weeks already in jungle. With that being said with this situation you can't tell that Carl was a complete stranger to them, beacuse that is not true.
Hey folks - there's a serious lesson here. If you're going to go into dangerous country, be sure that you have the skills and experience to travel independently in case anything should happen to your party. Either that or ensure that your guides are qualified and the expedition is properly organised with backup plans in case of difficulties. Heading off into wild and unfamiliar country on a whim is far too risky, and the consequences can be catastrophic as we see here ...
From the interviews I've read/heard; yossi was torn and really didn't want to leave, however. He looked up to Kevin and Kevin wanted to continue on the raft.. and he felt Markus was just complaining and would drag them down mentally.. so he just convinced yossi to go. But I agree it's very crazy they all split up and left an injured Markus with Karl;(
@@bawattsyl yeh I watched the episode of ‘I shouldn’t be alive’ and the movie ‘jungle’. It seems Kevin was the one who had the final say, it’s just a really messed up situation to get into. Definitely going to be getting the book soon, such a mysterious, inspirational story
@@102-d7i what initially led me here was, I have an alert set on reddit when someone posts a new thread on a disappearance etc. And someone had posted a thread on this and was wondering what Karl had been wanted for... from there I started my research. I did come across some of the interviews that yossi and Kevin gave during the filming of those shows (i believe) but I didn't want to watch the movie , etc until after doing my video. I definitely need to check out it. I did read a lot of news articles from the time that I found online that were a great source of info..(once translated) but yes, its definitely a crazy story! Thank you for watching, and your feedback!
I'm glad you made a video that focused on Marcus. He had a family and seemed like a genuinely great person. There isn't a lot of info about him out there and it sux cause his life was very important. Thanks. Great video
Thank you for the feedback! Yes, from my reading, he just seemed like such an amazing person! That one story about seeing the Frenchman robbed of all his camera equipment on the subway; and without thought Markus gave the Frenchman (a complete stranger) his own camera equipment. That's a hard quality to find these days. Even the situation with the monkey..I too would have felt exactly as he did.. I can't believe his family wasn't told about the movie until it was basically being released. There were articles i found when I dug deeper but they were mostly news articles from various local papers in Switzerland and Germany.. they were all in German, which i translated, but still often things are lost in translation. But it still gave me a better sense of the facts. Anyway, thank you so much for watching, and for your kind feedback! Much appreciated!
I lived in S.America around this same time and I can say that it was a much more innocent and trusting time. People met briefly and became friends quickly and there was a wide network of foreigners that were traveling then, some coming together briefly and then traveling together. It would not have been unusual to meet someone like Markus and form a bond, so I think that is why they were able to quickly trust him and take him in, ultimately to their own peril.
I agree, when I first read about this story, I thought I couldn't have the right info.. but then after further investigation I realized I did..i just can't get over why they would split up in the jungle and leave a friend who they had known almost a year with some guy they hardly knew. From the interviews I've seen, it does seem Yossi is regretful of that decision, and he does show remorse etc..he was also a lot younger than the rest at the time. But still it's a very sad story. I can't help but think that Karl just abandoned Markus after a day or so. Leaving Markus alone and injured.. i can't imagine how horrible that must of been for Markus, if that's indeed what happened.
@@bawattsyl As far as I know Kevin told Yossi that he didn't want to take Markus with them on the raft and Yossi didn't object. Karl Ruprechter already had underestimated distances during the previous days and it's very likely that he also perished in the Jungle (after he perhaps abandoned Markus). They should have never let Markus alone with this irresponsible man. A lot went wrong after a few egos clashed. I blame Kevin for being selfish and getting rid of Markus, because he didn't want to have to argue about what's sensible and what not. Karl was a con man, however, he had warned them about the Canyon streams and Kevin and Yossi went straight into that. The three boys should have just stuck together walking/paddling along the river, until they reached civilisation.
@@someone3187 yes i agree,. And that's why it's hard to figure Karl's motivations.. i mean he lied about the village..apparently there wasn't even one.. but yet he warned them about several things like the river, canyons, etc.. and he also realized the trench foot was really bad, whereas the other's thought Markus was just being a wimp or just complaining too much. But I agree that whatever the case, it was completely crazy for them to split up and just leave Markus with some guy, which at that point they knew he had been lying about the village and other things. From my research I found that the men got him to admit he had been lying, and further Karl told them he couldn't swim and wasn't as much a jungle expert as he claimed. .. so they knew before splitting up that this guy was trouble.. yet they still thought splitting up was ok😳 either way it's my opinion that was a terrible thing to do..i mean It's only by the grace of God that Kevin and Yossi made it out. They were both very lucky. We can't know for sure what would have happened had they all stayed together, however, it's my opinon they would have had a much better chance of all making out out ok.
@@bawattsyl Oh my God... So, if Karl admitted this to them then it's even worse that they left Markus with him! They fully knew Karl didn't actually know the area that well and sent Markus into uncertainty. The only reason Kevin and Yossi survived was, because they stayed close to the river and could be found by local fishermen. They should have insisted for everyone (or at least invite Markus) to continue heading down the river with them. In case they got split up by accident, they still should have just continued walking/paddling down the river until one of them could get help and come back to search for the others along the river. As for Karl, it's very likely he just got lost while walking further into the Jungle. I suspect he never had walked this route before.
@@bawattsyl I had a terrible thought, wonder if Karl was a cannibal who leared them into the jungle so he could kill them, and eat them... Thats a lot of meat, maybe he, Katl had friends in the jungle?
Thank you for this video. Very well done! What is unclear to me, is that even though Karl could not be trusted (among other things, the village he told the three friends about, did not exist), he did advise Yossi and Kevin to leave the raft as soon as the unescapeable canyon would appear in front of them. He told them explicitly to absolutely not enter the canyon and go ashore on a little beach they would find on their right side just before those deadly rapids. My question is, how did Karl know about the deadly rapids and that little beach? He was a bad guy, a wanted man even, and Kevin knew more about rafting than Karl, but Karl knew about that little piece of dry land, which, as it turned out, was Yossi and Kevin's last escape before the rapids would swallow them. How the hell did Karl know about all this? Unless he had been there himself, right? To me, there is no other way that Karl could have known in detail what awaited Yossi and Kevin unless he had seen it with his own eyes at an earlier stage. Also, in the movie, which was of course based on Yossi's book(s), and in interviews with Yossi, it becomes clear that Markus was "always complaining", these are Yossi's own words, even before the trench foot. For someone like Karl to be stuck with someone like Markus, this just doesn't make any sense at all, these two guys could not have been more total opposites. Karl probably either left him to die or he killed him himself. Never in his life would Markus have been able to make it out alive without Karl, but Karl on the other hand ... I think he survived. Since we know that he was a wanted man, he had more than one reason to keep a low profile after the whole ordeal. For some reason, I think Karl might even still be alive today. I mean, he was a psycho and he might not have been a good swimmer, but he knew the jungle, and he carried a shotgun. Karl, I think, is the real mystery here. And we don't even know Karl Ruprechter was his real name, do we? Since he was wanted by Interpol and fled to South America, he probably took on a false name, right? Interesting!
Thank you for your in depth comments! I appreciate the insight. I did not see the movie so I can't speak intelligently on that, however, from my research, this was not the first time Karl had taken people off into the jungle and abandoned them..according to the Bolivian authorities, he was notorious for doing this.. while he was a bad guy, with a bad past, he did know the jungle area pretty well in this parts. From my reading, he was apparently always looking for spots to mine gold illegally. So he had been through a big part of the area making it, looking for potential mining spots. I couldn't find any documentation, however, it wouldn't surprise me if these people in the past, and like Markus , Kevin, etc that he took into the jungle; in guessing he was receiving some kind of monetary compensation.. as far as what you report the portrayed in the movie about Markus being a complainer etc, and a few of Yossi comments, if you really research the case further, it comes to light that Yossi was just amazed at how wonderful a person Markus was. How genuinely a good person he was. Markus was going through a life crisis, and actually of all of them was the smart one..asking more questions, about following this Karl guy, and would it be safe, etc etc..(which the others took as complaining) but in reality whether it was his intuition or what, he knew this expedition was not a smart idea.. and none of them had any experience trekking into the jungle like that. I'm kind of inclined to agree with you that Karl just left Markus one night while they were sleeping, and then got the hell out of dodge..I still just can't believe his 2 friebds left their wounded friend, too hike out of the jungle with some stranger.. just so they could raft more down the river..I mean the river will always be there.. they could have come back and done it another time..
@@polafnt8312 quick translation- what's your point? Karl never said he hadnt been there before, and he probably had. You make no sense for making this particular thing an issue. i.e why get hung up on him knowing about the dry piece of land, what difference does it make
that's right, Karl is a big puzzle here, the film exposes how he speaks to humanity destroying nature, already hinting at his strange intentions. I bet this man is still alive.
Bryan, thank you again very very much for covering Marcus: i always thought Marcus Stamm was kind of forgotten in this misadvanture - i always felt so sorry for him - his character, beautiful heart, the way he was about the whole trip (since the beginning he was against it for multiple reasons) since seing it first time like more than 10 years ago in I shouldnt be alive - Yossi and Kevin did NOT act like friends at all - both Karl (the leader) and Marcus were against continuing, so they should return exactly how Karl was suggesting all along - with this attitude Kevin was out of any danger after just 3days, BUT, Yossi almost died after being lost almost one month in the jungle, Marcus and Karl vanished in the jungle (i guess they died - well Marcus for sure) and all of that ONLY because Kevin and Yossi were so headstrong - poor Marcus, he had such a good heard, now theres no official page in swiss or interpol that he is missed. You cant just go and let your friend die, cause you want to see smth - especially when the leader will tell you - WE HAVE to turn BACK, if we DO NOT want to DIE. THANK you again for pointing at Marcus, showing only existing photos and keep on Bryan - N.
Nira, thank you for your feedback! Yes, honestly i went way back to articles in German covering this case, and even more poignant were Kevin and yossi accounts in interviews. They both describe Markus as this wonderful human being, yet they let their desire for adventure overtake their rationale. Yossi has often expressed regret, however, he was only 22 at the time and Markus and Kevin were 29.. yossi didn't want to go against Kevin when they decided to split from Karl and Markus. Also, at this point Kevin knew Karl was full of bs. He had called him out and Karl had admitted not knowing where the village was. I had to dig deep to find the actual facts, because Hollywood has a tendency to dilute them.. but it was a combination of Kevin and yossi not fully understanding the severity of the trench foot (they thought Markus was just being soft) ironically it was Karl who told them how serious it was. Further Karl tried to warn them about their rafting idea being suicide.. so who knows what Karl's ultimate motivation was, or what happened to him and Markus. Of the 4, Karl was the only one that was familiar with the deep jungle.. but it's possible they both got lost, or something. Hard to say especially since neither were never seen again. RIP Markus 🙏
I find it so odd that they let Markus go alone walking back. It just bugs me since his condition of trench foot. That means he would be on his foot in instead nod off his foot in a raft. Some people online point out that there’s no pictures of Karl ever taken. But Karl must of been real since the locals knew him right???
I know;( I mean he was already physically beat down from the trench foot, emotionally shattered from coming off a bad breakup, then he has his 2 good friends abandon him in the jungle. . just awful😪
@@luismariscal8187 youre glad he was dealt with? Glad. Youre happy someone was led into the jungle and killed? Animals kill eachother all the time. Im no stranger to death. But only a human can find happiness in the death of another living thing. The one thing karl said in the movie that i agree with, is that humans should be wiped off the face of the Earth. Youre an example of why.
I watched this story on 'I shouldn't be alive' a while back and it just got brought back to my attention recently after watching the movie just now. Thank you for making this video, I like how you showed praise to Markus and obviously wanted to portray him as who he truly was. This whole strory is tragic. It will always be a mystery what happened to him, but whatever it is, may he rest in peace or live out the rest of his days in peace!
@@bawattsylFor me, the most plausible theory is that Karl abandoned Marcus during their hike due to his foot injury, leaving him alone and possibly succumbed to the elements of the jungle, still sad to think about, RIP Marcus Stamm 😔
Great Story. I'm a Swiss living in the US so this one hit home! My first Language is German if you ever need it again :) Also, this happen in 1981, people were much more trusting back then. Plus if Karl was maybe from Austria he spoke German. They had that in common as well so trust probably came easy.
I felt the movie would be upsetting for Marcus family ,as it’s pretty disrespectful making out Marcus was a bit of a wimp , that’s my opinion anyway . I didn’t know watching it that Marcus wasn’t seen again and said to my partner ,I bet Marcus isn’t happy the way he’s portrayed in this movie , whether it’s true to how Marcus was or not I still think leaving him in the jungle with that guy and him disappearing forever gone and then the one who survived makes a movie and portrays him like that is not very nice
I agree, and that's why I wanted to make this video about Markus, and show what a great person he was! I haven't seen the movie, however, I learned they didn't even inform Markus's family they were making the movie.. further apparently the movie didn't say what I wonderful person Markus was. I just can't believe that his friends thought it was ok to split up, and leave their wounded friend; whom they had known for almost a year, with some stranger..I know from yosi's interviews, he feels a lot of remorse about that decision, and definitely regrets it. In any event, in my research, I found that Markus was just a wonderful human being, and was so thoughtful and caring of others. It's just awful thinking of what he had to go through;(
With all due respect I dont think Marcus was portrayed as a whimp, I think he was portrayed as a clever , cautious, respectful and sensible man. His compassion for the animals of the Amazon in the movie, his wariness of the dangers of the Amazon, his wariness of going back on the raft. If anything he was more so the kindest of the group, and sadly had bad luck with his feet. He wasn't a whimp. The movie showed his kindness and his sweet nature , and kindness is sadly looked at as a weakness these days .
@@Black_Magic_Woman @Witchy Woman i didn't see the movie, but I'm glad he was portrayed as a clever, good guy!! Because he really was! I'll have to check out the movie 🎥! Thank you for watching my video!
@@bawattsyl I appreciate your research and content. The movie is worth a watch, I love how the first half is about all 3 men's friendship prior to this adventure turning to hell. It is from Yossi's experience and his interpretation of the events , but I don't think it was done disrespectfuly. But I suppose it's subjective, if anything you come out of if feeling so sad for Markus out of anyone. So heartbreaking. I truly don't think those guys wanted or intentionally left there friend behind or knowing he was in danger. It was just sad, selfish and desperate events leading up to the decision. Sadly we will never know if Karl killed Markus , or whether it was a pure accident for them aswell. My theory is that Karl wanted the other two to separate from Markus and convinced them subtly to do it , whilst making them believe it was their choice and for the benefit for Markus due to his affliction . As Yossi and Kevin were stronger personalities and Karl knew they could fight him back, so once they left on the raft - Karl was now left alone with the easier to overpower member of the group . And he killed him . God knows why, but thats what I think.
@@Black_Magic_Woman @Witchy Woman sounds very interesting and I'll definitely check it out.. so in my video, with my research it was Markus family who I said were upset about the film. They were upset because no one told them it was even being made until a few weeks Before its release. I know i didn't go into too much detail and since you were so kind to give me that awesome synopsis of the film I thought I'd share more. Anyway, the family was also upset with yossi because I guess his whole life is about that trip now. He wrote a book, goes around giving speeches etc, which is great of course. But I think because of how honest he was in his interviews , speeches, the family sees it as him and Kevin just abandoned their son with some stranger they hardly knew. Ill have to watch the movie and see how it compares to the recounts of Kevin and yossi. I left some info in the description with sources.. but I also watched a few interviews of Kevin and yossi.. yossi genuinely seems very remorseful but Kevin imo comes off rather cold. Your theory sounds very plausible.. my main issue i always run into is motive.. what would be the point of Karl killing Markus unless he just didn't want to deal with him..ie help him out of the jungle.. but this wasn't the first time Karl had pulled stunts like this where he took people into the jungle and left them.. this is one of those cases that's mind boggling in so many ways. Thank you again for watching and your feedback!
Karl was sociopath he tricked Markus and the other two weren’t following into his trap so Karl took Markus instead of all 3 I get a feeling Karl may have continued on
Do you think he was that devious? I mean the guy was wanted for robbing a post office, not for murder. It seems like he could have carried out a triple murder real early, long before any crisis, if he was really out for total no good. He had abandoned people before, but there is no word that he killed People.
@@steveperreira5850 I agree. I just read the book written by Yossi Ghinsberg and Karl doesn't come across as a sociopath to me. To me it looks more like he was a dreamer, who dreamed of gold and adventure and made up a way more glorious image of himself than was reality. That illusion of grandeur led him and the others to do this very dangerous hike, which they were ill prepared for and shouldn't have undertaken. But I don't think he killed anyone directly. I think he probably died as well.
Rimpelmans: The author of that book, Yossi, he seems like a fairly honest guy I saw an interview with him. As you say, Yossi Does not characterize him that way. I think Carl also perished.
@@Rimpelmans He lied from the beginning on. There was no village to begin with. So it's pretty clear that Karls intensions were bad. Probably a human trafficer or murderer.
@@steveperreira5850 that depends, did the people he abandoned survive or die? There’s no way Karl would of put up with Markus and his condition. The guy was a lier. He LEFT people behind. I think Karl abandoned Markus to die and then take off to another area to start “fresh” Either that or Karl died as well.
This is a really well done video about Markus, Yossi, Kevin and Karl - thank you for this! I've only recently watched the movie and read Yossi's books about the experience, and it's all just so incredible to think about. Seems like such an impossible feat for a young man to go through! Markus' story is particularly devastating, I was shocked when I discovered he was just never seen again and it's bizarre that they've never even found a trace. I can't imagine what it must be like for his family to just not know what happened to him. Hopefully one day there will be answers.
Karl was probably working up the courage to abandon them all if not shoot them then rob them and continue to the next territory to start anew. Markus no doubt succumbed to exposure, infection/illness or quicksand, and no doubt was abandoned. As for Yossi and Kevin leaving Markus, I imagine that they did it mostly for Markus’ own safety- yes they left him with a sketchy dude but at the time they didn’t know Karl was a bank robber/wanted criminal, so they assumed the best of him when they shouldn’t have. They probably thought that at the very least Karl would do as he promised and take Markus to the nearest village- they had no idea that he was going to later abandon him. Tragic story either way.
Oh no! Karl probably had used Marcus as an excuse to be left alone with him. Then shot or abandoned Marcus as soon as his friends. There’s no way he would of cared for Marcus. I really hope he wasn’t left in the wilderness to die
The most confusing thing to me is that Karl seems to have warned them about stuff that they actually did encounter, and he was known to have done this kind of thing multiple times. Photos of him are obscure and unreliable so we can assume Karl was a low identity person, yet he was known to have done stuff like this multiple times. So what his motive was, if there is one at all, is unknown to me. If he wanted to rob them he picked a bad mark and could have done so day one, if he wanted to eat them again, he could have killed them in their sleep day one. Some say he planned to sell them to a tribe, but the tribe he spoke of seems to be fake, so it’s just a bizarre situation all around. What I think happened is that Karl abandoned Markus the moment he got the chance, and in his attempt to flee was killed by something, he it nature, animal, or man. Both of their corpses would have been eaten or rotten to the point of no discovery.
@@jackofastora8962 I wonder if splitting up ruined whatever plan Karl had and possibly if that does not happen, we maybe don't hear from any of them ever again. Not sure what his motive was. After the split, I would guess Karl didn't even need to kill Markus, he was going downhill fast and would be dead soon from infections and weakness since he was not even partaking in much of the food on the trip and could barely walk. Unfortunately, Markus may have been the least prepared and least fit of the bunch. We know after the fact that Karl robbed and left people in the jungle and/or maybe sold them into slavery, so it does seem like he had a plan and it would involve them never being seen again.
Theory 1: With Karl being on the wanted list, perhaps he killed Marcus to fake his own disappearance but still out there with a new identity. Theory 2: he was a cannibal and ate Marcus. The way he was enjoying eating that monkey, claiming it’s the best meat anyone can eat was beyond strange!
@@dailyfax2096 that is a very strong theory but there is photo evidence of Karl on the trip with them (as seen in the end of “jungle”). But that definitely doesn’t cut out your theory.
Yeah I later looked back on the films credits and did find a picture of Karl. Since then I have made a new theory suggesting that yossi and Kevin killed Karl and Marcus but pinning it on Karl. This is more of a wilder theory of mine.
Yossi Ghinsberg did write a book, Lost in the Jungle, about this experience. The only one my heart went out to was Markus Stamm. There is so much more to this story if you want to find out. The movie only tells a small portion of the book and not a complete picture of that one part.
I highly doubt that book tells the whole complete truth of what happened on that trip. Someone with a big yen for greed and a guilty conscience spins a story when they do something egregious. Continuing to profit via books and movie and tv deals speaks volumes about these two creeps.
Let’s not forget the fact that they begged Markus to go with them and then left him with Karl, who potentially killed him or abandoned him because at the beginning of the movie they got lost from Karl and Markus was the one freaking out. In that case, Marcus went through the same things as yossi but didn’t make it. That’s what I think.
Baba, I'm assuming you're referring to the movie " the jungle" that wasn't all fact. I haven't seen it yet, however, from what you're describing it varies significantly from actual events.. in my video I tried to present the facts as they actually happened, using info from actual interviews, old newspapers articles etc.. along with interviews Kevin and yossi did for various shows. But really what happened in actuality, was Kevin and yossi left Markus with Karl..because they wanted to continue their river adventure.. Markus was very upset by this. Yossi even reports in interviews that he was torn up about leaving Markus. Anyway, just remember Hollywood movies 🎥 that are "based on true events" often greatly differ than what really happened. Hopefully this video ties in more of the actual facts for you:) but let me know if you have any questions! I researched this case for a while! Thanks again for watching, and your feedback! I appreciate it!
@@bawattsyl I’m actually referring to the beginning of the story, Yossi was the one who begged kevin and Markus to go with him to the jungle and Markus was the one who really didn’t want to but finally accepted to go. I just wish I could go back to the past and investigate deeper about this story. I’m pretty sure we can’t find anything no more. At this point I don’t even believe yossi anymore.
@@Baba_cmn if you like i was able to find several German and Swiss news articles that convered the case..I linked them in the description. But it was hard because a few were all in German, and at times things are lost in translation. But I did leave links in the description with more info if you'd like to check it out") thanks again for watching!
Well I don’t know as much information as some of you do, but it seems like returning the way they came might be prudent if that gets them back to civilization the quickest and surest Way. It seems like going deeper into the jungle has a massive uncertainty. I think they should’ve helped Marcus get back. Once I was in this situation in the high Sierras, there were three of us, one Of the others got very injured feet. We made a plan. The plan was to continue on the Pacific crest Trail, but if things got really bad and he was not recovering, we would set up camp and one of us would divert out a side canyon to get rescue, there were no ranger station or authorities anywhere nearby to help, no phones, no way of calling out. I would go ahead each day and set up camp and the other two would hike slowly together, and in this way the injured friend, he recovered in a few days, and all was well. The fastest way out for rescue in our situation was to divert on a side canyon trail if we had to. So our situation was not near so complicated or dire.
Bryan's Mysteries & Adventures on Trail : from your telling, it sounds like the two survivors were rather self-centered. They were not close friends, none of them were close friends for years Going back, seems like they didn’t care that much about Marcus, but maybe I’m wrong, God only knows. They did however try to find him after they were rescued themselves, and they put a good effort into this. I really think they didn’t understand how risky it was leaving Markus with a relative stranger.
Thank you! And thank you for watching! Yes, I really hope we can help some of these families find closure, but if anything else it keeps the stories alive and makes more people aware. Thank you again for your words! Stay healthy and safe!
Thank you Bryan for your content. You are always so respectful and caring towards the different lives who've been affected by these disappearances. I really love your channel and am thankful that I recently discovered it.
Markus was treated like trash I know the movie isn’t all facts but after watching it and seeing live interviews I can’t believe they just left him with Karl so they could continue their adventure very selfish just goes to show your real friends I mean Karl was a stranger I 100% believe he killed Markus or left him on his own so sad
I mean I'm in agreement with you. I really can't believe they split up. The jungle would still have been there.. they could have come back. I just don't get it..😪
Thanks for the video. This is a fascinating story with so many angles to it. Karl most likely abandoned Markus, not killed him. There’s a good chance that Karl was planning on abandoning them all like he was known to do with tourists in the area ( definitely sounds like a thrill for a guy who eats monkeys) but didn’t get the chance once Yossi and Kevin pawned off the injured Markus.
Everyone here criticizing Yossi and Kevin without realizing that none of the men involved were thinking rationally at the time. They were all hungry and partially dehydrated at that point. In those circumstances, your decision making skills are pretty bad.
Plus at that point, Kevin and yossi had figured out Karl was a fraud.. that he had lied about the village. Thank you for watching, and your feedback! Much appreciated 🙏! Thank's again!
At the time they split no one was dehydrated (they were right next to a river lol), and the only person who was hungry was Marcus because he wasn't too fond of the game they had been hunting (monkeys). There's no reason to assume that either Kevin or Yossi were unable to think rationally at this point. In fact, at this point in the story none of the group even thought they were in any real danger, they just thought Marcus' foot was bad and that they needed to head back. Yossi and Kevin's decision to make Marcus go with Karl was driven by complete selfishness. They thought Marcus was annoying and was slowing them down, so they decided to REFUSE to allow him to come with them. When you're days deep in the uncharted jungle, you simply cannot abandon your friend like this. What makes it crazier is that once Kevin and Yossi left on the raft, they said they were "ecstatic" and "energized" to finally be away from Marcus. They had a personal issue with Marcus and decided to abandon him in the jungle because of it. Marcus is dead because of Kevin and Yossi (mostly Kevin). Kevin and Yossi were truly detestable friends and in my opinion it was wrong that they were never questioned/interrogated after surviving.
Most people train and prepare years in advance before exploring vast, wild areas and they still encounter misfortune and hardship. Yossi and Kevin were extremely lucky.
I just rewatched this, and I have to say, you did such an amazing job on this! And as far as I could see, you were the first ever to cover this on the tube. which is very cool! I love the actual pictures and the narration! You seriously deserve so many more subs. It's a shame the way YT does all those algorithm things. Also, don't listen to the naysayers.... I love that you do real narration and don't use AI. I know many people probably aren't even aware of how many channels use AI now a days. Listening to you, is always great! I've been binge watching all your videos again! Thank you for all you do! I saw this one guy who commented that you had copied someone's content (on one of your recent videos) (can't recall who) but I loved your retort and that you saw the comment, as you had covered that case over 2 years prior to the other person. I did see that the person ultimately apologized but I think some people just love to be hateful which is sad. Please don't let it change the way you do things!
Thank you Kathy, yes this story i had to dig very deep to find articles from the early 80s and their pics from actual cameras bank in the day..I featured pics they took while on this trip and of the area at the time... which is why it's funny to me how one commenter said don't use pics that aren't related...lol I even found their pic of the huge falls and cliffs they had to go through that caused ask the problems..I think people often don't appreciate or realize how hard it can be to find pics or news articles from the time.. sure things are easier with the internet these days, however, so many sites the info is restricted or you have to be a member etc..I can't tell you how many times I've been so close to finding great pics or info only to have that sign pop up saying " only 5.99 a month" or whatever..lol. but in ask my videos I really make an effort to give you a true feeling of the area where they took place and always put pictures in from the actual places and area..i really appreciate you noticing and taking the time to comment :)) it means a lot and in thank you for your feedback🙏🤗 if you would like to watch another story, that has both a happy and sad ending, check out my video on John Donovan. I made it shortly after this one. I think you may like it:) thank you again for watching and your feedback🙏🤗
So very sad about Marcus never being found. Most people are so trusting.It can get us into such trouble on occasion.I pray Marcus is either safe in some native village, or his soul is at peace. Thank you for your sensitive and informative video. 🙏🏻💗🙏🏻
me too he was taking all 3 of them to a place that he made up and hed done the same to other travellers im not sure if those had also gone missing but karl is mad
I have read the book Jungle and was absolutely harrowing reading what Yossi went through. I couldn't believe the miracle of him being found by his friend but it was heartbreaking knowing Marcus was never found. I watched the movie with Daniel Radcliffe and omg what a fantastic performance of his portrayal of Yossi. I felt his pain through the whole film. I was so glad I read the book as a few of the most traumatic things Yossi went through would be too painful to put in the movie. I was so glad I came across your film about this story and I have definitely subscribed to your Chanel and looking forward fo hearing more of your stories in the future
Thank you for your feedback! Yes, I agree it's unreal how all this happened! And really unreal how lucky yossi was to be found in the end! I don't think I'll ever stop wondering what happened to Markus.. thank you again for your comment, and thoughts!
@@jennmullins1063 One of the terrible things that happened to Yossi in the book was when he fell down and couldn't stop where he was going and landed at the bottom with a part of a tree up his anus. Omg reading that was harrowing as not only the pain he suffered but it also got infected. Also when all the ants that drawn to him because he urinated over himself to keep warm and the smell attracted them. The description of this moment will always stay with me. As you can imagine these things would be too much for the book 🥺
Wow that's really cool my videos are appearing in feeds now.. for quite a while I couldn't even do a search and find my videos🙃😂 I'm glad you liked the video! I appreciate your feedback, and thank you for watching!
I really enjoy listening to you narrate the stories of those missing. I pray they are all found one day and their families can have closure. Thank you for all you do! God Bless!
Thank you, Bryan. I like your presentation style and appreciate your effort to use actual photos from the story. Too many TH-camrs use random stock photos/videos of people completely unrelated, which are just distracting and annoying. Anyway, I subscribed today.
I read the engaging book and watched the later movie about that published account, and I love your video on Stamm's disappearance. It has added a new, fresh perspective on something that has already been monetized as a memoir with its own agenda. Thank you!
9:50 in and I'm already sad... While blessed with incredible good luck, Yossi and Kevin also had so many hard lessons in the jungle. They seem shockingly naïve. But do I wish these guys had been cynical and distrustful back in 1981? For the sake of their lives--maybe. But the reason they were in Bolivia was to experience the unknown, trusting it wouldn't be malevolent. They were open to the world, and Bolivians proved worthy of their trust. That's the sweetness of life, and youth; the confidence that something REALLY bad wouldn't happen to them; because...well, it was outside their experience. May God bless the soul of Markus Stamm, and may He bring comfort to those that miss him.
Everyone saying that Karl ate Markus or killed him but even if he did plan for this or was a psycho who would kill travellers, BUT why wouldn’t he kill the 3 in their sleep? Instead of taking one and disappear?! In my mind there is something missing here very strangely since Karl was a guy who helped them through all this time, was the patient friend for Markus and even warned the other two about the dangers and told them the truth about how to find their way
I think what probably happened is either they both got lost together or maybe suffered an animal attack..or Karl just left Markus one night while they camped. I don't believe any of these comments or ideas of Karl eating Markus.. thank you for watching and your feedback!
I do love your delivery of the story, simple and direct. The metronomic tones of the background music was unsettling the longer it went on. I also do appreciate your acknowledgement of God in the miracles that occurred. You do a great job!
Thank you, you are very kind! Yes that was an earlier video and I didn't have access to a lot of options for background music. Thankfully now a very nice producer has let me use some of his. I really appreciate your feedback and watching! I hope to hear from you again!
@@bawattsyl I was actually complimenting your effective use of the "metronome" to make the story suspenseful as it continued. It was simple and very effective on the listener. Thank you for your hard work!
I've seen the documentary on this, and they didn't just split up, Kevin told Marcus that he didn't want them to come with him and basically forced him to stay with Carl. It was a really crappy thing to do
I ve been on this kind of scenery when i was naif.. but thankgod not in the jungle.. just on a town that ive never been before alone and met two stranger that doing the sameway that i did.. and go traveling with somehow one tourguide that weve never known before... and we just go and believe each other that everything juzt gonna be fine.. and thankgod thats just happen.. we say goodbye each other.. but i kind lost contact of them now.. one thing that should be note.. never leave any one behind or split up on groups.. it will be a tottaly mistake!!
It's sad because you're right, I'm sure there are many kind people who would offer to be a guide to their native land or home area. Unfortunately people like Karl. (Con men) do exist.. and so it's always is this kind of situation important to ask around about the person or get some background info.. and yes never split up! This is the part I still can't believe!
The Amazonian rainforest is a fearsome jungle. I grew up in Venezuela and hunted there numerous times. I can’t believe he survived two weeks . And those red ants are the “Benicasa” they eat everything in their path they are also a delicacy to eat fried or sauted😌. Amazing he survived.
From many other theories, I've found one that I believe suits it the best. The theory is that Markus and Karl died, with either both of them died naturally or Karl killed Markus then later on died. They only had 25% of the foods and with a small village that really fits to be Curiplaya, "Destroyed", Karl would kill Markus as he was already weak and could provide Karl a bundle of foods, since Karl was most likely to be a cannibal (It was hinted in the movie), it is a likely scenario. However, Karl couldn't dispose of his own corpse after he dies, so you may ask, why haven't we found his corpse yet? This is a good question, whether or not we've found his corpse, the forest haven't been completely search, so there maybe his bones and corpses still laying around somewhere in the forest, but if we were not to find his corpse, it would means that Karl could possibly survived the jungle. There are 2 scenarios which one is that Karl died, but his corpse were not yet found, and the other one was that Karl survived with either going the way back or having a hideout in the jungle somewhere (since he had a history of bringing people to the forest and abandon them), it is ridiculous but I believe it is still a possibility. There are a lot more theories but this is the one I believe suits it the best.
@@academylord Thats a good point, though I don't really think there's much animal out there that could consume all of his bone so I'd like to think there are still fragments of his bone out there and we haven't found it yet. Apart from all the theory, what really happened there is still a mystery.
Thank you for this video. Many people are saying Karl is the bad guy and most likely killed or left Markus. However, from watching the movie, Karl had wanted to wait for Markus to be able to walk again then hike back to the village they passed through initially. Then just leave the jungle. However Kevin and Yossi hadn't wanted to leave and instead pushed the raft idea. In my opinion, splitting up the worst idea however, I feel like Karl had initially planned to get Markus out with him. Then maybe Markus's feet got too bad and Karl worried they wouldn't make it out before the rainy season, and left Markus behind. Tho, learning that the Bolivian authorities were familiar with Karl for him taking people into the jungle then leaving them, does make me question how good Karl actually was. Another odd thing was how willing Kevin and Yossi were to leave there good and injured friend Markus with Karl, even after discovering Karl had lied to them about knowing the river. Mostly I'm just angry at Kevin and Yossi for leaving Markus with Karl at all.
I completely agree! Karl was something of a paradox and I can't figure him out..on the one hand he lied about the Indian village, and was leading them to God knows where or why.. but he also recognized the trench foot on Markus and told Kevin and yossi how bad it was... he also tried to warn Kevin and yossi that they were committing suicide by attempting the river.. which he was right about.. but I agree, I can't believe the group decided to split up..I mean they were all young, and easily could have planned another jungle adventure.. but instead they just threw caution and their friends well being to the wind and left him with Karl.. just😳
I watched this and then I was looking for something to watch on Amazon and found the jungle movie and didn’t realize the whole time that it was this story till the end.
I just watched the movie. Thanks so much for investigating their story. Whenever I see ‘based on a true story’ I always wonder how much is embellished. When I read that Marcus and Karl had disappeared, that was so said to me, so I know his family must be in a lot of pain for never getting any closer. Anyway, I’m glad he’s being remembered now. Thanks, new sub. 🙂
Just saying Yossi wrote a very detailed book regarding the whole adventure: "Lost In the Jungle". It would probably be the best form of information on the topic. Thanks for the video.
There’s something VERY suspicious about this story, when this split up at the river… I wonder what the full story is.. who did Markus break up with? How did they all meet, why did they leave their supposed friend of 8 months? A lot of things just don’t add up - how is it known that karl had left people in the jungle before? Did karl flip and they left Markus so they could get away knowing Karl couldn’t swim to save themselves and crashed… or after seeing that picture of yossi with his shirt sleeve town and jeans torn… I’m not convinced at all… it’s all very weird.. nothing adds up
I remember watching a film about this years ago!! Always felt so sad that Markus was never found and what he must have gone thru. I can't imagine being lost in the jungle and trying to find your way out: ( I do hope that his family finds out what happened to him one day.
3 days on foot for Stamm and the guide. Yossi survived 3 weeks. That's weird. I think they could have gone back to the place where they split up the group and followed the most logical way Stamm and the guide should have taken. In that case they could have found traces of them or maybe even found them. Dead or alive. I have a feeling that the whole story hasn't been told in this case. I bet you would find the remains of Stamm somewhere along his route back, IF the guide killed him.
It's probably more likely if anything that the guide just left him. Having not wanted to help him out of the jungle..I didn't find any research that suggested Karl had violent crimes aside the rubbery ofthe post office back in Austia, although even that I'm not sure how it went down.... he did more just underhanded and manipulative things and was a known con man. I think you're right if they had been able to get back to the area sooner they might have found remains, however, in the jungle there are literally ants and many other animals that would eat and scatter any remains.. but who knows🤷♂️thank you for watching and your feedback!
This is wild jungle, I doubt it would have been easy for them to even find the place where they split up in that huge of an area. As for remains, they would have been carried off in all directions by animals. In pieces.
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Yeah I can't imagine going into the jungle with basically no gear or experience then separating from the only person that knew any of the area..despite Karl being a con man, I think if they had all stayed together it could have ended very differently.. three's strength in numbers.. but🤷♂️ thank you for watching!
For one person to supply themselves with far less than the minimum necessary amount of food and equipment to ensure a safe trip out and back from the jungle is naivete at its worst; for a group of three grown men to take the word of a stranger and do the same, as if they came from someone they know and trust, was a provably fatal error in their collective judgment. Personally speaking, the answer is a monosyllabic "NO" when some asshole tells me I don't need to bring most of what my ruck contains. What I carry or don't is my business and nobody else's. That was the most ludicrous part of this incident. A grown man should be confident and assertive, even to the extent of telling his buddies to leave their rucksack contents intact. It amazes me that one thing failed to raise red flags or tingle Spidey senses among the easily duped trio. Nobody gets to decide what goes in my ruck. Not even when it is parked in my bedroom closet during the cold winter weather. I don't buy the story of Karl abandoning people he guided into the jungle. The guy is, or was, more likely than not a serial murderer. Karl and others like him need no motive such as robbery in order to kill a stranger or two. To the contrary, it is his desire from the moment they cross paths to separate his future victims from the various systems of protection, safety, and other institutions dedicated to helping those in need, and when the circumstances meet his fantasies, the killing itself is the pinnacle of each hiking trip. When I heard Karl was talking the trio into leaving things behind, especially food, it was blatantly clear he figured they weren't going to need those items nor anything else in the near future. Bottom line of this incident report is don't be so ridiculously naive and easily manipulated, especially when the person making recommendations for YOU will NOT be the one who suffers from your lack of food or first aid supplies. There's no harm in telling Karl to worry about his own rucksack and that you're fine with the contents of your ruck.
Never leave a friend behind like that. Never. To tell you the truth I'd rather die than have to live with this for the rest of my life. They abandoned poor Marcus to a madman.
Weak perish. It's the rule of nature. Karl traded him to indigenous cannibal tribe for gold and escaped south america. He's still on the run from Interpol authority
I don’t mean to be disrespectful to Yossi, Markus nor Kevin. But you just don’t follow a complete stranger into the wilderness.
It is as simple as that.
It is a cautionary tale to say the least,
No matter how nice Carl was, or how believable he seemed, FOLLOWING ANYONE into a DEEP DEEP DENSE JUNGLE IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT A GOOD IDEA!!! PERIOD😳
@@iamhere1315 you are saying that because you are young, in the past there wasn’t “bad person” like today, people were nice with each others, sorry for my english
@@matteo2837 I disagree, on the contrary I believe people were just as bad possibly worse than today. Serial killers, rapes and murders were more common than in comparison to today, along with more information nowadays informing people of the evil in this world. Imagine then when not nearly as much was reported and found due to lack of technology and schema. Do write back I’d like to converse further
I agree, it’s of course common sense to say no to following strangers, but in their defense I will say that Yossi grew up in Israel, a country of extremely strict laws and regulations, most of them founded on austere religious beliefs, so kidnapping in Israel is almost nonexistent in comparison to say Mexico or Bolivia, where laws are much less regulated and the cartels are almost as strong as the polizia.
So yeah he travelled to Bolivia completely unaware that this was a much different territory, not just in the scenery but in every way. definitely learned his lesson needless to say- but most of us are naive at 21.
@@paularrigan4441 Bro , I don’t know where are you from, but I’m from europe and I can tell you that in the past there were less”bad person” now with people coming from Africa there are a lot of problems that in the past there weren’t
After watching the movie Jungle yesterday I felt so sad for Markus so I searched his name on google.Luckily, you made this video.Thank you very much Bryan. Markus really deserves to be remembered...
I agree! And that's exactly why I made this video. Thank you for watching , and your feedback! This story just tore me up inside.. because Markus was such an amazing guy. He had such a big heart and God only knows what happened to him, or what he went through:(
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They can’t find Marcus
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@@JosephKulik2016 that’s what I thought as well.
To quote a great American: “Stupid is as stupid does” 🤷♂️
I just watched Jungle and they definitely should have taken Markus with them. I feel like he’s the real victim here.
Yes he had better chance of survival with Kevin than with Karl ( a stranger they met some where) ..
I would rather stay with a stranger since the friends are not friends anymore.
They should have all walked out together. Splitting up was the biggest mistake.
YEAH BEECAUSE THEY BEGGED HIM TO GO
Marcus feet were in bad shape and with their raft crashing Marcus probably wouldn't have made it.
I just finished the movie and my heart broke for Markus and how they treated him . It’s such an odd story tho… it’s almost as if certain details have been omitted purposely. I don’t understand the logic behind the decision to split up and build a make shift raft to try to go down a dangerous canyon. Something had to occur to prompt them to want to split up . Why was a Kevin so hellbent on splitting up ?There’s a big chunk of info missing we will never know bc Yosi and Kevin are the only ones who lived to tell the story
Meet a complete stranger who wants to take them in the jungle on a mystery trip...stranger is the only one with a gun, they don't bring no supplies....I think I can see where this is going.
a complete stranger would be someone you've never met, not someone who you hang out with every second of everyday for 2 weeks.
@@dinglbarry1275 Yep, Karl was not that stranger to them, moreoever he was like their companion beacuse they spent time before they went for trip. I don't say that he was already their "bro", but they had their reasons to belive him that he knows this jungle if they spent with him like 2 weeks already in jungle. With that being said with this situation you can't tell that Carl was a complete stranger to them, beacuse that is not true.
@@skorpionGF When talking about trusting your life to someone, two weeks =stranger.
@@betsybarnicle8016 I agree
Exactly, you hit the nail on the head!
Hey folks - there's a serious lesson here. If you're going to go into dangerous country, be sure that you have the skills and experience to travel independently in case anything should happen to your party. Either that or ensure that your guides are qualified and the expedition is properly organised with backup plans in case of difficulties. Heading off into wild and unfamiliar country on a whim is far too risky, and the consequences can be catastrophic as we see here ...
Very true! Thank you for your insight and thoughts! 🙏
I wouldn't go down to any of those s.american toilets,if the organ harvesters,kidnappers or native headhunters don't off you,the wildlife will.
@@jerrymarshall2095 Racist SOB.
Have you heard from bryan?
Like going to Everest to climb..gotta plan..
Why would you leave your friend with someone who your already really suspicious about? Something seems off about it all
From the interviews I've read/heard; yossi was torn and really didn't want to leave, however. He looked up to Kevin and Kevin wanted to continue on the raft.. and he felt Markus was just complaining and would drag them down mentally.. so he just convinced yossi to go. But I agree it's very crazy they all split up and left an injured Markus with Karl;(
@@bawattsyl yeh I watched the episode of ‘I shouldn’t be alive’ and the movie ‘jungle’. It seems Kevin was the one who had the final say, it’s just a really messed up situation to get into. Definitely going to be getting the book soon, such a mysterious, inspirational story
@@102-d7i what initially led me here was, I have an alert set on reddit when someone posts a new thread on a disappearance etc. And someone had posted a thread on this and was wondering what Karl had been wanted for... from there I started my research. I did come across some of the interviews that yossi and Kevin gave during the filming of those shows (i believe) but I didn't want to watch the movie , etc until after doing my video. I definitely need to check out it. I did read a lot of news articles from the time that I found online that were a great source of info..(once translated) but yes, its definitely a crazy story! Thank you for watching, and your feedback!
Shady shit is what it is..
They called Carl 'Papa'
I'm glad you made a video that focused on Marcus. He had a family and seemed like a genuinely great person. There isn't a lot of info about him out there and it sux cause his life was very important. Thanks. Great video
Thank you for the feedback! Yes, from my reading, he just seemed like such an amazing person! That one story about seeing the Frenchman robbed of all his camera equipment on the subway; and without thought Markus gave the Frenchman (a complete stranger) his own camera equipment. That's a hard quality to find these days. Even the situation with the monkey..I too would have felt exactly as he did.. I can't believe his family wasn't told about the movie until it was basically being released. There were articles i found when I dug deeper but they were mostly news articles from various local papers in Switzerland and Germany.. they were all in German, which i translated, but still often things are lost in translation. But it still gave me a better sense of the facts.
Anyway, thank you so much for watching, and for your kind feedback! Much appreciated!
I lived in S.America around this same time and I can say that it was a much more innocent and trusting time. People met briefly and became friends quickly and there was a wide network of foreigners that were traveling then, some coming together briefly and then traveling together. It would not have been unusual to meet someone like Markus and form a bond, so I think that is why they were able to quickly trust him and take him in, ultimately to their own peril.
Sorry meant to say Karl instead of Markus above
I was thinking the same thing about times being different.
Markus was a really nice guy. The others were selfish and left him alone with that unreliable "guide". I don't think I'll ever get over this.
I agree, when I first read about this story, I thought I couldn't have the right info.. but then after further investigation I realized I did..i just can't get over why they would split up in the jungle and leave a friend who they had known almost a year with some guy they hardly knew. From the interviews I've seen, it does seem Yossi is regretful of that decision, and he does show remorse etc..he was also a lot younger than the rest at the time. But still it's a very sad story. I can't help but think that Karl just abandoned Markus after a day or so. Leaving Markus alone and injured.. i can't imagine how horrible that must of been for Markus, if that's indeed what happened.
@@bawattsyl As far as I know Kevin told Yossi that he didn't want to take Markus with them on the raft and Yossi didn't object.
Karl Ruprechter already had underestimated distances during the previous days and it's very likely that he also perished in the Jungle (after he perhaps abandoned Markus). They should have never let Markus alone with this irresponsible man.
A lot went wrong after a few egos clashed. I blame Kevin for being selfish and getting rid of Markus, because he didn't want to have to argue about what's sensible and what not.
Karl was a con man, however, he had warned them about the Canyon streams and Kevin and Yossi went straight into that. The three boys should have just stuck together walking/paddling along the river, until they reached civilisation.
@@someone3187 yes i agree,. And that's why it's hard to figure Karl's motivations.. i mean he lied about the village..apparently there wasn't even one.. but yet he warned them about several things like the river, canyons, etc.. and he also realized the trench foot was really bad, whereas the other's thought Markus was just being a wimp or just complaining too much. But I agree that whatever the case, it was completely crazy for them to split up and just leave Markus with some guy, which at that point they knew he had been lying about the village and other things. From my research I found that the men got him to admit he had been lying, and further Karl told them he couldn't swim and wasn't as much a jungle expert as he claimed. .. so they knew before splitting up that this guy was trouble.. yet they still thought splitting up was ok😳 either way it's my opinion that was a terrible thing to do..i mean It's only by the grace of God that Kevin and Yossi made it out. They were both very lucky. We can't know for sure what would have happened had they all stayed together, however, it's my opinon they would have had a much better chance of all making out out ok.
@@bawattsyl Oh my God... So, if Karl admitted this to them then it's even worse that they left Markus with him! They fully knew Karl didn't actually know the area that well and sent Markus into uncertainty. The only reason Kevin and Yossi survived was, because they stayed close to the river and could be found by local fishermen. They should have insisted for everyone (or at least invite Markus) to continue heading down the river with them. In case they got split up by accident, they still should have just continued walking/paddling down the river until one of them could get help and come back to search for the others along the river.
As for Karl, it's very likely he just got lost while walking further into the Jungle. I suspect he never had walked this route before.
@@bawattsyl I had a terrible thought, wonder if Karl was a cannibal who leared them into the jungle so he could kill them, and eat them... Thats a lot of meat, maybe he, Katl had friends in the jungle?
Never trust your life and / or your wellbeing to anyone, especially a complete stranger.
I need to write that down a couple of thousand times.
To be fair though they were all strangers at the start of it
That’s exactly the opposite of what the movie should have taught you
Don't need to go to the Amazon. But, If I do, I won't bring Carl. There's always a Carl.
Thank you for this video. Very well done!
What is unclear to me, is that even though Karl could not be trusted (among other things, the village he told the three friends about, did not exist), he did advise Yossi and Kevin to leave the raft as soon as the unescapeable canyon would appear in front of them. He told them explicitly to absolutely not enter the canyon and go ashore on a little beach they would find on their right side just before those deadly rapids. My question is, how did Karl know about the deadly rapids and that little beach? He was a bad guy, a wanted man even, and Kevin knew more about rafting than Karl, but Karl knew about that little piece of dry land, which, as it turned out, was Yossi and Kevin's last escape before the rapids would swallow them. How the hell did Karl know about all this? Unless he had been there himself, right? To me, there is no other way that Karl could have known in detail what awaited Yossi and Kevin unless he had seen it with his own eyes at an earlier stage.
Also, in the movie, which was of course based on Yossi's book(s), and in interviews with Yossi, it becomes clear that Markus was "always complaining", these are Yossi's own words, even before the trench foot. For someone like Karl to be stuck with someone like Markus, this just doesn't make any sense at all, these two guys could not have been more total opposites. Karl probably either left him to die or he killed him himself. Never in his life would Markus have been able to make it out alive without Karl, but Karl on the other hand ... I think he survived. Since we know that he was a wanted man, he had more than one reason to keep a low profile after the whole ordeal. For some reason, I think Karl might even still be alive today. I mean, he was a psycho and he might not have been a good swimmer, but he knew the jungle, and he carried a shotgun. Karl, I think, is the real mystery here. And we don't even know Karl Ruprechter was his real name, do we? Since he was wanted by Interpol and fled to South America, he probably took on a false name, right?
Interesting!
Thank you for your in depth comments! I appreciate the insight. I did not see the movie so I can't speak intelligently on that, however, from my research, this was not the first time Karl had taken people off into the jungle and abandoned them..according to the Bolivian authorities, he was notorious for doing this.. while he was a bad guy, with a bad past, he did know the jungle area pretty well in this parts. From my reading, he was apparently always looking for spots to mine gold illegally. So he had been through a big part of the area making it, looking for potential mining spots. I couldn't find any documentation, however, it wouldn't surprise me if these people in the past, and like Markus , Kevin, etc that he took into the jungle; in guessing he was receiving some kind of monetary compensation.. as far as what you report the portrayed in the movie about Markus being a complainer etc, and a few of Yossi comments, if you really research the case further, it comes to light that Yossi was just amazed at how wonderful a person Markus was. How genuinely a good person he was. Markus was going through a life crisis, and actually of all of them was the smart one..asking more questions, about following this Karl guy, and would it be safe, etc etc..(which the others took as complaining) but in reality whether it was his intuition or what, he knew this expedition was not a smart idea.. and none of them had any experience trekking into the jungle like that. I'm kind of inclined to agree with you that Karl just left Markus one night while they were sleeping, and then got the hell out of dodge..I still just can't believe his 2 friebds left their wounded friend, too hike out of the jungle with some stranger.. just so they could raft more down the river..I mean the river will always be there.. they could have come back and done it another time..
What’s your point, Karl never said he hadn’t been there before he probably had been there before you make no sense
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@@polafnt8312 quick translation- what's your point? Karl never said he hadnt been there before, and he probably had. You make no sense for making this particular thing an issue. i.e why get hung up on him knowing about the dry piece of land, what difference does it make
that's right, Karl is a big puzzle here, the film exposes how he speaks to humanity destroying nature, already hinting at his strange intentions. I bet this man is still alive.
None of them had the experience to even attempt this...
Bryan, thank you again very very much for covering Marcus: i always thought Marcus Stamm was kind of forgotten in this misadvanture - i always felt so sorry for him - his character, beautiful heart, the way he was about the whole trip (since the beginning he was against it for multiple reasons) since seing it first time like more than 10 years ago in I shouldnt be alive - Yossi and Kevin did NOT act like friends at all - both Karl (the leader) and Marcus were against continuing, so they should return exactly how Karl was suggesting all along - with this attitude Kevin was out of any danger after just 3days, BUT, Yossi almost died after being lost almost one month in the jungle, Marcus and Karl vanished in the jungle (i guess they died - well Marcus for sure) and all of that ONLY because Kevin and Yossi were so headstrong - poor Marcus, he had such a good heard, now theres no official page in swiss or interpol that he is missed. You cant just go and let your friend die, cause you want to see smth - especially when the leader will tell you - WE HAVE to turn BACK, if we DO NOT want to DIE. THANK you again for pointing at Marcus, showing only existing photos and keep on Bryan - N.
Nira, thank you for your feedback! Yes, honestly i went way back to articles in German covering this case, and even more poignant were Kevin and yossi accounts in interviews. They both describe Markus as this wonderful human being, yet they let their desire for adventure overtake their rationale. Yossi has often expressed regret, however, he was only 22 at the time and Markus and Kevin were 29.. yossi didn't want to go against Kevin when they decided to split from Karl and Markus. Also, at this point Kevin knew Karl was full of bs. He had called him out and Karl had admitted not knowing where the village was. I had to dig deep to find the actual facts, because Hollywood has a tendency to dilute them.. but it was a combination of Kevin and yossi not fully understanding the severity of the trench foot (they thought Markus was just being soft) ironically it was Karl who told them how serious it was. Further Karl tried to warn them about their rafting idea being suicide.. so who knows what Karl's ultimate motivation was, or what happened to him and Markus. Of the 4, Karl was the only one that was familiar with the deep jungle.. but it's possible they both got lost, or something. Hard to say especially since neither were never seen again. RIP Markus 🙏
@@bawattsyl Yes Markus, you are not forgotten, you did nothing bad, may your soul rest in peace, we are aware of your good intentions and big heart
Yossie seem to have no regrets for forcing Marcus into it..
I find it so odd that they let Markus go alone walking back. It just bugs me since his condition of trench foot. That means he would be on his foot in instead nod off his foot in a raft. Some people online point out that there’s no pictures of Karl ever taken. But Karl must of been real since the locals knew him right???
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Can only imagine his journey after the split
I know;( I mean he was already physically beat down from the trench foot, emotionally shattered from coming off a bad breakup, then he has his 2 good friends abandon him in the jungle. . just awful😪
he was a setback and a crybaby from the beginjing just like kevin said why are u even here... im goad he was dealt with
@@luismariscal8187 youre glad he was dealt with? Glad. Youre happy someone was led into the jungle and killed? Animals kill eachother all the time. Im no stranger to death. But only a human can find happiness in the death of another living thing. The one thing karl said in the movie that i agree with, is that humans should be wiped off the face of the Earth. Youre an example of why.
@@luismariscal8187 ain't no way
I watched this story on 'I shouldn't be alive' a while back and it just got brought back to my attention recently after watching the movie just now. Thank you for making this video, I like how you showed praise to Markus and obviously wanted to portray him as who he truly was. This whole strory is tragic. It will always be a mystery what happened to him, but whatever it is, may he rest in peace or live out the rest of his days in peace!
It really is;( Thank you for your feedback and supportive comment! I agree, we'll probably never know what really happened;( RIP Markus 🙏
@@bawattsylFor me, the most plausible theory is that Karl abandoned Marcus during their hike due to his foot injury, leaving him alone and possibly succumbed to the elements of the jungle, still sad to think about, RIP Marcus Stamm 😔
Karl totally abandoned him or worse
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How in the world 3 guys put their lives in the hands of a stranger?
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We do it with doctors, nurses, pharmacists, etc everyday and more blindingly.
People who disappear leave a void, and unending questions behind.
Yes exactly and that void lingers in the friends and families lives forever,( I can't imagine how hard it is;(
Great Story. I'm a Swiss living in the US so this one hit home! My first Language is German if you ever need it again :) Also, this happen in 1981, people were much more trusting back then. Plus if Karl was maybe from Austria he spoke German. They had that in common as well so trust probably came easy.
I felt the movie would be upsetting for Marcus family ,as it’s pretty disrespectful making out Marcus was a bit of a wimp , that’s my opinion anyway . I didn’t know watching it that Marcus wasn’t seen again and said to my partner ,I bet Marcus isn’t happy the way he’s portrayed in this movie , whether it’s true to how Marcus was or not I still think leaving him in the jungle with that guy and him disappearing forever gone and then the one who survived makes a movie and portrays him like that is not very nice
I agree, and that's why I wanted to make this video about Markus, and show what a great person he was! I haven't seen the movie, however, I learned they didn't even inform Markus's family they were making the movie.. further apparently the movie didn't say what I wonderful person Markus was. I just can't believe that his friends thought it was ok to split up, and leave their wounded friend; whom they had known for almost a year, with some stranger..I know from yosi's interviews, he feels a lot of remorse about that decision, and definitely regrets it. In any event, in my research, I found that Markus was just a wonderful human being, and was so thoughtful and caring of others. It's just awful thinking of what he had to go through;(
With all due respect I dont think Marcus was portrayed as a whimp, I think he was portrayed as a clever , cautious, respectful and sensible man. His compassion for the animals of the Amazon in the movie, his wariness of the dangers of the Amazon, his wariness of going back on the raft. If anything he was more so the kindest of the group, and sadly had bad luck with his feet. He wasn't a whimp. The movie showed his kindness and his sweet nature , and kindness is sadly looked at as a weakness these days .
@@Black_Magic_Woman @Witchy Woman i didn't see the movie, but I'm glad he was portrayed as a clever, good guy!! Because he really was! I'll have to check out the movie 🎥! Thank you for watching my video!
@@bawattsyl I appreciate your research and content. The movie is worth a watch, I love how the first half is about all 3 men's friendship prior to this adventure turning to hell.
It is from Yossi's experience and his interpretation of the events , but I don't think it was done disrespectfuly. But I suppose it's subjective, if anything you come out of if feeling so sad for Markus out of anyone. So heartbreaking. I truly don't think those guys wanted or intentionally left there friend behind or knowing he was in danger. It was just sad, selfish and desperate events leading up to the decision. Sadly we will never know if Karl killed Markus , or whether it was a pure accident for them aswell. My theory is that Karl wanted the other two to separate from Markus and convinced them subtly to do it , whilst making them believe it was their choice and for the benefit for Markus due to his affliction . As Yossi and Kevin were stronger personalities and Karl knew they could fight him back, so once they left on the raft - Karl was now left alone with the easier to overpower member of the group . And he killed him . God knows why, but thats what I think.
@@Black_Magic_Woman @Witchy Woman sounds very interesting and I'll definitely check it out.. so in my video, with my research it was Markus family who I said were upset about the film. They were upset because no one told them it was even being made until a few weeks Before its release. I know i didn't go into too much detail and since you were so kind to give me that awesome synopsis of the film I thought I'd share more. Anyway, the family was also upset with yossi because I guess his whole life is about that trip now. He wrote a book, goes around giving speeches etc, which is great of course. But I think because of how honest he was in his interviews , speeches, the family sees it as him and Kevin just abandoned their son with some stranger they hardly knew. Ill have to watch the movie and see how it compares to the recounts of Kevin and yossi. I left some info in the description with sources.. but I also watched a few interviews of Kevin and yossi.. yossi genuinely seems very remorseful but Kevin imo comes off rather cold. Your theory sounds very plausible.. my main issue i always run into is motive.. what would be the point of Karl killing Markus unless he just didn't want to deal with him..ie help him out of the jungle.. but this wasn't the first time Karl had pulled stunts like this where he took people into the jungle and left them.. this is one of those cases that's mind boggling in so many ways. Thank you again for watching and your feedback!
Karl was sociopath he tricked Markus and the other two weren’t following into his trap so Karl took Markus instead of all 3 I get a feeling Karl may have continued on
Do you think he was that devious? I mean the guy was wanted for robbing a post office, not for murder. It seems like he could have carried out a triple murder real early, long before any crisis, if he was really out for total no good. He had abandoned people before, but there is no word that he killed People.
@@steveperreira5850 I agree. I just read the book written by Yossi Ghinsberg and Karl doesn't come across as a sociopath to me. To me it looks more like he was a dreamer, who dreamed of gold and adventure and made up a way more glorious image of himself than was reality. That illusion of grandeur led him and the others to do this very dangerous hike, which they were ill prepared for and shouldn't have undertaken. But I don't think he killed anyone directly. I think he probably died as well.
Rimpelmans: The author of that book, Yossi, he seems like a fairly honest guy I saw an interview with him. As you say, Yossi Does not characterize him that way. I think Carl also perished.
@@Rimpelmans He lied from the beginning on. There was no village to begin with. So it's pretty clear that Karls intensions were bad. Probably a human trafficer or murderer.
@@steveperreira5850 that depends, did the people he abandoned survive or die? There’s no way Karl would of put up with Markus and his condition. The guy was a lier. He LEFT people behind. I think Karl abandoned Markus to die and then take off to another area to start “fresh”
Either that or Karl died as well.
This is awesome to see that someone cared enough to make a video! Very well done
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words and taking the time to watch, and comment🙏🤗
This is a really well done video about Markus, Yossi, Kevin and Karl - thank you for this! I've only recently watched the movie and read Yossi's books about the experience, and it's all just so incredible to think about. Seems like such an impossible feat for a young man to go through! Markus' story is particularly devastating, I was shocked when I discovered he was just never seen again and it's bizarre that they've never even found a trace. I can't imagine what it must be like for his family to just not know what happened to him. Hopefully one day there will be answers.
Rest in peace Markus Stamm.
you dont know if he is dead
@@snehitm3516 he definitely is
@@tbg_groovy8253 How can you be sure man? For all we know he could have started a new life as an Amazonian.
@@snehitm3516 LOL
Wow thanks for the video I’m pretty sure it took lots of time so just whanting to say that keep the work in I really liked it
Karl was probably working up the courage to abandon them all if not shoot them then rob them and continue to the next territory to start anew.
Markus no doubt succumbed to exposure, infection/illness or quicksand, and no doubt was abandoned.
As for Yossi and Kevin leaving Markus, I imagine that they did it mostly for Markus’ own safety- yes they left him with a sketchy dude but at the time they didn’t know Karl was a bank robber/wanted criminal, so they assumed the best of him when they shouldn’t have. They probably thought that at the very least Karl would do as he promised and take Markus to the nearest village- they had no idea that he was going to later abandon him. Tragic story either way.
Oh no! Karl probably had used Marcus as an excuse to be left alone with him. Then shot or abandoned Marcus as soon as his friends. There’s no way he would of cared for Marcus. I really hope he wasn’t left in the wilderness to die
The most confusing thing to me is that Karl seems to have warned them about stuff that they actually did encounter, and he was known to have done this kind of thing multiple times. Photos of him are obscure and unreliable so we can assume Karl was a low identity person, yet he was known to have done stuff like this multiple times. So what his motive was, if there is one at all, is unknown to me. If he wanted to rob them he picked a bad mark and could have done so day one, if he wanted to eat them again, he could have killed them in their sleep day one. Some say he planned to sell them to a tribe, but the tribe he spoke of seems to be fake, so it’s just a bizarre situation all around. What I think happened is that Karl abandoned Markus the moment he got the chance, and in his attempt to flee was killed by something, he it nature, animal, or man. Both of their corpses would have been eaten or rotten to the point of no discovery.
@@jackofastora8962 I wonder if splitting up ruined whatever plan Karl had and possibly if that does not happen, we maybe don't hear from any of them ever again. Not sure what his motive was. After the split, I would guess Karl didn't even need to kill Markus, he was going downhill fast and would be dead soon from infections and weakness since he was not even partaking in much of the food on the trip and could barely walk. Unfortunately, Markus may have been the least prepared and least fit of the bunch. We know after the fact that Karl robbed and left people in the jungle and/or maybe sold them into slavery, so it does seem like he had a plan and it would involve them never being seen again.
@@jackofastora8962 I think they ditched Marcus and Karl stole Karl map and got lost themselves. Maybe because they thought they could get help faster.
@@jackofastora8962 i wonder if it was all a plot to use them to find more gold and then abandoned and maybe it just ended up getting too complicated
Theory 1: With Karl being on the wanted list, perhaps he killed Marcus to fake his own disappearance but still out there with a new identity.
Theory 2: he was a cannibal and ate Marcus. The way he was enjoying eating that monkey, claiming it’s the best meat anyone can eat was beyond strange!
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What about yossi and Kevin making up Karl and Karl was never real. And that they killed Marcus.
@@dailyfax2096 that is a very strong theory but there is photo evidence of Karl on the trip with them (as seen in the end of “jungle”). But that definitely doesn’t cut out your theory.
@@MikeNolansSunnies52 Karl was alone in the photo after the movie and is believed to be taken awhile before the events
Yeah I later looked back on the films credits and did find a picture of Karl. Since then I have made a new theory suggesting that yossi and Kevin killed Karl and Marcus but pinning it on Karl. This is more of a wilder theory of mine.
Theory 1 is probably the most logical theory
Yossi Ghinsberg did write a book, Lost in the Jungle, about this experience. The only one my heart went out to was Markus Stamm. There is so much more to this story if you want to find out. The movie only tells a small portion of the book and not a complete picture of that one part.
Actually the book is titled Jungle
You're both right. It's been published under both titles. It's an incredible story for those who haven't read it and are curious based on this video.
I highly doubt that book tells the whole complete truth of what happened on that trip. Someone with a big yen for greed and a guilty conscience spins a story when they do something egregious. Continuing to profit via books and movie and tv deals speaks volumes about these two creeps.
He truly deserves to be rememberd I'm sure he's resting peaceful and is looking down on his freinds
Let’s not forget the fact that they begged Markus to go with them and then left him with Karl, who potentially killed him or abandoned him because at the beginning of the movie they got lost from Karl and Markus was the one freaking out. In that case, Marcus went through the same things as yossi but didn’t make it. That’s what I think.
Baba, I'm assuming you're referring to the movie " the jungle" that wasn't all fact. I haven't seen it yet, however, from what you're describing it varies significantly from actual events.. in my video I tried to present the facts as they actually happened, using info from actual interviews, old newspapers articles etc.. along with interviews Kevin and yossi did for various shows. But really what happened in actuality, was Kevin and yossi left Markus with Karl..because they wanted to continue their river adventure.. Markus was very upset by this. Yossi even reports in interviews that he was torn up about leaving Markus. Anyway, just remember Hollywood movies 🎥 that are "based on true events" often greatly differ than what really happened. Hopefully this video ties in more of the actual facts for you:) but let me know if you have any questions! I researched this case for a while! Thanks again for watching, and your feedback! I appreciate it!
@@bawattsyl I’m actually referring to the beginning of the story, Yossi was the one who begged kevin and Markus to go with him to the jungle and Markus was the one who really didn’t want to but finally accepted to go. I just wish I could go back to the past and investigate deeper about this story. I’m pretty sure we can’t find anything no more. At this point I don’t even believe yossi anymore.
@@Baba_cmn if you like i was able to find several German and Swiss news articles that convered the case..I linked them in the description. But it was hard because a few were all in German, and at times things are lost in translation. But I did leave links in the description with more info if you'd like to check it out") thanks again for watching!
Well I don’t know as much information as some of you do, but it seems like returning the way they came might be prudent if that gets them back to civilization the quickest and surest Way. It seems like going deeper into the jungle has a massive uncertainty. I think they should’ve helped Marcus get back.
Once I was in this situation in the high Sierras, there were three of us, one Of the others got very injured feet. We made a plan. The plan was to continue on the Pacific crest Trail, but if things got really bad and he was not recovering, we would set up camp and one of us would divert out a side canyon to get rescue, there were no ranger station or authorities anywhere nearby to help, no phones, no way of calling out.
I would go ahead each day and set up camp and the other two would hike slowly together, and in this way the injured friend, he recovered in a few days, and all was well.
The fastest way out for rescue in our situation was to divert on a side canyon trail if we had to. So our situation was not near so complicated or dire.
Bryan's Mysteries & Adventures on Trail : from your telling, it sounds like the two survivors were rather self-centered. They were not close friends, none of them were close friends for years Going back, seems like they didn’t care that much about Marcus, but maybe I’m wrong, God only knows. They did however try to find him after they were rescued themselves, and they put a good effort into this. I really think they didn’t understand how risky it was leaving Markus with a relative stranger.
Keep up the good work Bryan. Glad you’re getting the word out concerning all of these cases. Keep em coming.
Thank you! And thank you for watching! Yes, I really hope we can help some of these families find closure, but if anything else it keeps the stories alive and makes more people aware. Thank you again for your words! Stay healthy and safe!
Sorry to hear of your setbacks,enjoyed your telling of this sad story,Keep the content coming.Fromthe UK ,Keep up the good work
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Thank you for your kind words and feedback! I appreciate you watching!
Thank you Bryan for your content. You are always so respectful and caring towards the different lives who've been affected by these disappearances. I really love your channel and am thankful that I recently discovered it.
Markus was treated like trash I know the movie isn’t all facts but after watching it and seeing live interviews I can’t believe they just left him with Karl so they could continue their adventure very selfish just goes to show your real friends I mean Karl was a stranger I 100% believe he killed Markus or left him on his own so sad
I mean I'm in agreement with you. I really can't believe they split up. The jungle would still have been there.. they could have come back. I just don't get it..😪
This is so sad but yet interesting. Well done explaining this case. Poor Marcus...Im sure his friends miss him terribly 😔 Thank You for sharing ❤
Thanks for the video. This is a fascinating story with so many angles to it.
Karl most likely abandoned Markus, not killed him. There’s a good chance that Karl was planning on abandoning them all like he was known to do with tourists in the area ( definitely sounds like a thrill for a guy who eats monkeys) but didn’t get the chance once Yossi and Kevin pawned off the injured Markus.
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback! It definitely is one of those enduring Mysteries!
Everyone here criticizing Yossi and Kevin without realizing that none of the men involved were thinking rationally at the time. They were all hungry and partially dehydrated at that point. In those circumstances, your decision making skills are pretty bad.
Plus at that point, Kevin and yossi had figured out Karl was a fraud.. that he had lied about the village. Thank you for watching, and your feedback! Much appreciated 🙏! Thank's again!
No. Their original decisions were stupid
At the time they split no one was dehydrated (they were right next to a river lol), and the only person who was hungry was Marcus because he wasn't too fond of the game they had been hunting (monkeys). There's no reason to assume that either Kevin or Yossi were unable to think rationally at this point. In fact, at this point in the story none of the group even thought they were in any real danger, they just thought Marcus' foot was bad and that they needed to head back. Yossi and Kevin's decision to make Marcus go with Karl was driven by complete selfishness. They thought Marcus was annoying and was slowing them down, so they decided to REFUSE to allow him to come with them. When you're days deep in the uncharted jungle, you simply cannot abandon your friend like this. What makes it crazier is that once Kevin and Yossi left on the raft, they said they were "ecstatic" and "energized" to finally be away from Marcus. They had a personal issue with Marcus and decided to abandon him in the jungle because of it. Marcus is dead because of Kevin and Yossi (mostly Kevin). Kevin and Yossi were truly detestable friends and in my opinion it was wrong that they were never questioned/interrogated after surviving.
Most people train and prepare years in advance before exploring vast, wild areas and they still encounter misfortune and hardship. Yossi and Kevin were extremely lucky.
I just rewatched this, and I have to say, you did such an amazing job on this! And as far as I could see, you were the first ever to cover this on the tube. which is very cool! I love the actual pictures and the narration! You seriously deserve so many more subs. It's a shame the way YT does all those algorithm things. Also, don't listen to the naysayers.... I love that you do real narration and don't use AI. I know many people probably aren't even aware of how many channels use AI now a days. Listening to you, is always great! I've been binge watching all your videos again! Thank you for all you do! I saw this one guy who commented that you had copied someone's content (on one of your recent videos) (can't recall who) but I loved your retort and that you saw the comment, as you had covered that case over 2 years prior to the other person. I did see that the person ultimately apologized but I think some people just love to be hateful which is sad. Please don't let it change the way you do things!
I hope Karl didn’t do anything to Marcus
Seems like you worked hard to find the facts. Keep it up. It's what makes your video interesting.
Thank you Kathy, yes this story i had to dig very deep to find articles from the early 80s and their pics from actual cameras bank in the day..I featured pics they took while on this trip and of the area at the time... which is why it's funny to me how one commenter said don't use pics that aren't related...lol I even found their pic of the huge falls and cliffs they had to go through that caused ask the problems..I think people often don't appreciate or realize how hard it can be to find pics or news articles from the time.. sure things are easier with the internet these days, however, so many sites the info is restricted or you have to be a member etc..I can't tell you how many times I've been so close to finding great pics or info only to have that sign pop up saying " only 5.99 a month" or whatever..lol. but in ask my videos I really make an effort to give you a true feeling of the area where they took place and always put pictures in from the actual places and area..i really appreciate you noticing and taking the time to comment :)) it means a lot and in thank you for your feedback🙏🤗 if you would like to watch another story, that has both a happy and sad ending, check out my video on John Donovan. I made it shortly after this one. I think you may like it:) thank you again for watching and your feedback🙏🤗
So very sad about Marcus never being found. Most people are so trusting.It can get us into such trouble on occasion.I pray Marcus is either safe in some native village, or his soul is at peace. Thank you for your sensitive and informative video.
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NEVER EVER, on such epeditions, let the only guy with a firearm be the "LOCAL" guide, or a guy you never knew before your voyage! NEVER!
I definetley think that Karl on the first night alone with Markus ither killed him or just left him to die
me too he was taking all 3 of them to a place that he made up and hed done the same to other travellers im not sure if those had also gone missing but karl is mad
@@kittybelle4578 agreed. Karl must have been mental. I'm really interested about if he survived not
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Used him as food?
@@christelleh3892 hahahahhaah yeh Karl gave me cannibal vibes 🤣🤣🤣
I have read the book Jungle and was absolutely harrowing reading what Yossi went through. I couldn't believe the miracle of him being found by his friend but it was heartbreaking knowing Marcus was never found. I watched the movie with Daniel Radcliffe and omg what a fantastic performance of his portrayal of Yossi. I felt his pain through the whole film. I was so glad I read the book as a few of the most traumatic things Yossi went through would be too painful to put in the movie. I was so glad I came across your film about this story and I have definitely subscribed to your Chanel and looking forward fo hearing more of your stories in the future
Thank you for your feedback! Yes, I agree it's unreal how all this happened! And really unreal how lucky yossi was to be found in the end! I don't think I'll ever stop wondering what happened to Markus.. thank you again for your comment, and thoughts!
You’ve made me curious, but I can’t read the book! What was this experience?
What things happened in the book but were left out of the movie?
@@jennmullins1063 One of the terrible things that happened to Yossi in the book was when he fell down and couldn't stop where he was going and landed at the bottom with a part of a tree up his anus. Omg reading that was harrowing as not only the pain he suffered but it also got infected. Also when all the ants that drawn to him because he urinated over himself to keep warm and the smell attracted them. The description of this moment will always stay with me. As you can imagine these things would be too much for the book 🥺
An excellent telling of this horrific journey! Thanks for the great content.
This is well researched and thoughtfully put together. Well done 👍
Thank you so much! I appreciate you watching, and your nice words! I hope you're having a good 2021 so far!
It hurts my feeling.
Marcus is the one who actually didnt want to join the adventure. They both asked him to
This video was in my You tube feed.
So glad it was
Wow that's really cool my videos are appearing in feeds now.. for quite a while I couldn't even do a search and find my videos🙃😂 I'm glad you liked the video! I appreciate your feedback, and thank you for watching!
This so scary and tragic at the same time! Poor Marcus
Netflix led me here. Good work
Thank you for watching, and your kind feedback!
same here.
End Game what is on Netflix that is about this case?
@@goldfishandcats jungle with daniel radcliffe, but it's not on netflix anymore
Same
Whoa. This is an amazing story. Thanks, Bryan!
You're welcome and Thank you! 🙏
I really enjoy listening to you narrate the stories of those missing. I pray they are all found one day and their families can have closure. Thank you for all you do! God Bless!
Thank you for this story. Great job!
You're welcome 🙏 thank you again for all your positive, and kind feedback!
With friends like these who needs enemies.
Thank you, Bryan. I like your presentation style and appreciate your effort to use actual photos from the story. Too many TH-camrs use random stock photos/videos of people completely unrelated, which are just distracting and annoying. Anyway, I subscribed today.
RIP Marcus 🙏
Wonderful narration
I read the engaging book and watched the later movie about that published account, and I love your video on Stamm's disappearance. It has added a new, fresh perspective on something that has already been monetized as a memoir with its own agenda. Thank you!
9:50 in and I'm already sad...
While blessed with incredible good luck, Yossi and Kevin also had so many hard lessons in the jungle. They seem shockingly naïve. But do I wish these guys had been cynical and distrustful back in 1981? For the sake of their lives--maybe. But the reason they were in Bolivia was to experience the unknown, trusting it wouldn't be malevolent. They were open to the world, and Bolivians proved worthy of their trust. That's the sweetness of life, and youth; the confidence that something REALLY bad wouldn't happen to them; because...well, it was outside their experience. May God bless the soul of Markus Stamm, and may He bring comfort to those that miss him.
Everyone saying that Karl ate Markus or killed him but even if he did plan for this or was a psycho who would kill travellers, BUT why wouldn’t he kill the 3 in their sleep? Instead of taking one and disappear?! In my mind there is something missing here very strangely since Karl was a guy who helped them through all this time, was the patient friend for Markus and even warned the other two about the dangers and told them the truth about how to find their way
I think what probably happened is either they both got lost together or maybe suffered an animal attack..or Karl just left Markus one night while they camped. I don't believe any of these comments or ideas of Karl eating Markus.. thank you for watching and your feedback!
Exactly if he wanted to kill them so bad why did he wait weeks?
Thank you for your work to research and put this together! Really well done, such an incredible story!
Thank you for your kind words, and for watching! I really appreciate 🙏 the support!
I do love your delivery of the story, simple and direct. The metronomic tones of the background music was unsettling the longer it went on. I also do appreciate your acknowledgement of God in the miracles that occurred. You do a great job!
Thank you, you are very kind! Yes that was an earlier video and I didn't have access to a lot of options for background music. Thankfully now a very nice producer has let me use some of his. I really appreciate your feedback and watching! I hope to hear from you again!
@@bawattsyl I was actually complimenting your effective use of the "metronome" to make the story suspenseful as it continued. It was simple and very effective on the listener. Thank you for your hard work!
Thank you for making this. I didn't know his family didn't know about the movie! How terrible!
I've seen the documentary on this, and they didn't just split up, Kevin told Marcus that he didn't want them to come with him and basically forced him to stay with Carl. It was a really crappy thing to do
Why kevin and yossi left marcus stamm to karl if he both doubt in this guy. Im confused
Who in their right mind would go into the jungle , accompanied by a stranger, not knowing how to survive in the jungle. Ridiculous.
An adventurous youth. Pretty healthy for a young man, doesn't make it wise of course
they weren't strangers....they had been traveling together prior to this for 8 months.
@@lunatune3714 No. They met a "Carl" who they didn't know, to guide them to a village.
Cause people use guides all the time....no reason for them to distrust
When you’re a nice guy, you try to do what makes everyone satisfied. He sacrificed himself
I ve been on this kind of scenery when i was naif.. but thankgod not in the jungle.. just on a town that ive never been before alone and met two stranger that doing the sameway that i did.. and go traveling with somehow one tourguide that weve never known before... and we just go and believe each other that everything juzt gonna be fine.. and thankgod thats just happen.. we say goodbye each other.. but i kind lost contact of them now.. one thing that should be note.. never leave any one behind or split up on groups.. it will be a tottaly mistake!!
It's sad because you're right, I'm sure there are many kind people who would offer to be a guide to their native land or home area. Unfortunately people like Karl. (Con men) do exist.. and so it's always is this kind of situation important to ask around about the person or get some background info.. and yes never split up! This is the part I still can't believe!
Glad to have found you. Nice
Work.
Awesome video sir! Outstanding work!!:)
The Amazonian rainforest is a fearsome jungle. I grew up in Venezuela and hunted there numerous times. I can’t believe he survived two weeks . And those red ants are the “Benicasa” they eat everything in their path they are also a delicacy to eat fried or sauted😌. Amazing he survived.
From many other theories, I've found one that I believe suits it the best.
The theory is that Markus and Karl died, with either both of them died naturally or Karl killed Markus then later on died. They only had 25% of the foods and with a small village that really fits to be Curiplaya, "Destroyed", Karl would kill Markus as he was already weak and could provide Karl a bundle of foods, since Karl was most likely to be a cannibal (It was hinted in the movie), it is a likely scenario. However, Karl couldn't dispose of his own corpse after he dies, so you may ask, why haven't we found his corpse yet? This is a good question, whether or not we've found his corpse, the forest haven't been completely search, so there maybe his bones and corpses still laying around somewhere in the forest, but if we were not to find his corpse, it would means that Karl could possibly survived the jungle. There are 2 scenarios which one is that Karl died, but his corpse were not yet found, and the other one was that Karl survived with either going the way back or having a hideout in the jungle somewhere (since he had a history of bringing people to the forest and abandon them), it is ridiculous but I believe it is still a possibility. There are a lot more theories but this is the one I believe suits it the best.
@@academylord Thats a good point, though I don't really think there's much animal out there that could consume all of his bone so I'd like to think there are still fragments of his bone out there and we haven't found it yet. Apart from all the theory, what really happened there is still a mystery.
Karl went into and got out the jungle several times, clearly Kark surviving is a strong possibility.
@@herrhiterminator8149 A single Anaconda or a school of Piranas, a hungry Jaguar would do the job perfectly...!!
Thank you for this video. Many people are saying Karl is the bad guy and most likely killed or left Markus. However, from watching the movie, Karl had wanted to wait for Markus to be able to walk again then hike back to the village they passed through initially. Then just leave the jungle. However Kevin and Yossi hadn't wanted to leave and instead pushed the raft idea. In my opinion, splitting up the worst idea however, I feel like Karl had initially planned to get Markus out with him. Then maybe Markus's feet got too bad and Karl worried they wouldn't make it out before the rainy season, and left Markus behind. Tho, learning that the Bolivian authorities were familiar with Karl for him taking people into the jungle then leaving them, does make me question how good Karl actually was. Another odd thing was how willing Kevin and Yossi were to leave there good and injured friend Markus with Karl, even after discovering Karl had lied to them about knowing the river. Mostly I'm just angry at Kevin and Yossi for leaving Markus with Karl at all.
I completely agree! Karl was something of a paradox and I can't figure him out..on the one hand he lied about the Indian village, and was leading them to God knows where or why.. but he also recognized the trench foot on Markus and told Kevin and yossi how bad it was... he also tried to warn Kevin and yossi that they were committing suicide by attempting the river.. which he was right about.. but I agree, I can't believe the group decided to split up..I mean they were all young, and easily could have planned another jungle adventure.. but instead they just threw caution and their friends well being to the wind and left him with Karl.. just😳
I feel bad for Markus. He did not want to go to the jungle. Yossi persuaded him. All this story is very suspicious.
Looks like Kevin, Yossi and Karl conspired against Marcus.
I watched this and then I was looking for something to watch on Amazon and found the jungle movie and didn’t realize the whole time that it was this story till the end.
A real life "Naked and Afraid" episode!!! Thank you for sharing!!!!
I just watched the movie. Thanks so much for investigating their story. Whenever I see ‘based on a true story’ I always wonder how much is embellished. When I read that Marcus and Karl had disappeared, that was so said to me, so I know his family must be in a lot of pain for never getting any closer. Anyway, I’m glad he’s being remembered now. Thanks, new sub. 🙂
Just saying Yossi wrote a very detailed book regarding the whole adventure: "Lost In the Jungle". It would probably be the best form of information on the topic. Thanks for the video.
Thank you, I thought I had read this exact story but couldn't remember where.
What if Karl left them early on and these guys both left markus?
Less food for 3 people, injured leg?
Yes!!! Could be brother
And that is why he was thinking he was seeing markus?
What if Karl was a CANNIBAL?
@@iamhere1315 What if KarI, Yosi and Kevin were aII cannibaIs?
Exactly or they were the bad guys too .. and during these fights things got out of hand it’s just their “story” to corroborate but seems fishy
There’s something VERY suspicious about this story, when this split up at the river… I wonder what the full story is.. who did Markus break up with? How did they all meet, why did they leave their supposed friend of 8 months? A lot of things just don’t add up - how is it known that karl had left people in the jungle before? Did karl flip and they left Markus so they could get away knowing Karl couldn’t swim to save themselves and crashed… or after seeing that picture of yossi with his shirt sleeve town and jeans torn… I’m not convinced at all… it’s all very weird.. nothing adds up
If carl was made up story, the villagers at the resort could testify that there was no fourth gringo
I remember watching a film about this years ago!! Always felt so sad that Markus was never found and what he must have gone thru. I can't imagine being lost in the jungle and trying to find your way out: ( I do hope that his family finds out what happened to him one day.
Thank you for your feedback, and for watching!
Sad story thank you for making and sharing
Thanks 4 sharing this story, very interesting!
Bryan some of the things you were in doubt about in the story are explained in detail in Yossi's book "Back From Tuichi". Well done video. THANKS.
Oh that's great! Thank you for the tip! I'll definitely check it out! Thank you for watching and your feedback! Much appreciated 🙏!
Awesome Video! Thank you!
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback! I really appreciate you watching!
There was a movie made similar to this story. Thank you! I love watching your vlog- so inspiring.
3 days on foot for Stamm and the guide. Yossi survived 3 weeks. That's weird. I think they could have gone back to the place where they split up the group and followed the most logical way Stamm and the guide should have taken. In that case they could have found traces of them or maybe even found them. Dead or alive. I have a feeling that the whole story hasn't been told in this case. I bet you would find the remains of Stamm somewhere along his route back, IF the guide killed him.
It's probably more likely if anything that the guide just left him. Having not wanted to help him out of the jungle..I didn't find any research that suggested Karl had violent crimes aside the rubbery ofthe post office back in Austia, although even that I'm not sure how it went down.... he did more just underhanded and manipulative things and was a known con man. I think you're right if they had been able to get back to the area sooner they might have found remains, however, in the jungle there are literally ants and many other animals that would eat and scatter any remains.. but who knows🤷♂️thank you for watching and your feedback!
This is wild jungle, I doubt it would have been easy for them to even find the place where they split up in that huge of an area. As for remains, they would have been carried off in all directions by animals. In pieces.
Your comments at the end are very pertinent why did they go with Karl!
Just found your channel, new sub, great work. Thanks for sharing!
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Such a sad story. Big mistake separating and to go on a raft when you can't swim is a no-no. Glad at least two of them survived tho' .
Yeah I can't imagine going into the jungle with basically no gear or experience then separating from the only person that knew any of the area..despite Karl being a con man, I think if they had all stayed together it could have ended very differently.. three's strength in numbers.. but🤷♂️ thank you for watching!
Love the channel!
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I like your way of story telling. I have subscribed .👍🏻🇨🇦
Thank you Mimi! That's very kind of you! I have a twin brother that lives in Canada! What part are you from?
For one person to supply themselves with far less than the minimum necessary amount of food and equipment to ensure a safe trip out and back from the jungle is naivete at its worst; for a group of three grown men to take the word of a stranger and do the same, as if they came from someone they know and trust, was a provably fatal error in their collective judgment.
Personally speaking, the answer is a monosyllabic "NO" when some asshole tells me I don't need to bring most of what my ruck contains. What I carry or don't is my business and nobody else's. That was the most ludicrous part of this incident. A grown man should be confident and assertive, even to the extent of telling his buddies to leave their rucksack contents intact. It amazes me that one thing failed to raise red flags or tingle Spidey senses among the easily duped trio.
Nobody gets to decide what goes in my ruck. Not even when it is parked in my bedroom closet during the cold winter weather.
I don't buy the story of Karl abandoning people he guided into the jungle. The guy is, or was, more likely than not a serial murderer. Karl and others like him need no motive such as robbery in order to kill a stranger or two. To the contrary, it is his desire from the moment they cross paths to separate his future victims from the various systems of protection, safety, and other institutions dedicated to helping those in need, and when the circumstances meet his fantasies, the killing itself is the pinnacle of each hiking trip.
When I heard Karl was talking the trio into leaving things behind, especially food, it was blatantly clear he figured they weren't going to need those items nor anything else in the near future. Bottom line of this incident report is don't be so ridiculously naive and easily manipulated, especially when the person making recommendations for YOU will NOT be the one who suffers from your lack of food or first aid supplies. There's no harm in telling Karl to worry about his own rucksack and that you're fine with the contents of your ruck.
Never leave a friend behind like that. Never. To tell you the truth I'd rather die than have to live with this for the rest of my life. They abandoned poor Marcus to a madman.
Weak perish. It's the rule of nature. Karl traded him to indigenous cannibal tribe for gold and escaped south america. He's still on the run from Interpol authority
They both saidntheynhave no remorse nor any guilt. I Shouldnt Be Alive season 1
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