Listening to Steve explain the system was amazing. So detailed and engaging. Dude kept my attention on every word. Loved the clock and XLR explanation!
@@markclausson564 yeah, not sure why they would demo in a Tesla. They're known for their sound signature similar to a fish tank because the amount of glass they have. Not to mention terrible squeaky interior, no wonder they sound like doodoo in the demo
I remember way back when Steve brown won the nationals every year for sound quality with his first car. A 1988 red acura legend 4 door I believe. All alpine even then. UNBELIEVABLE CAR AND INSTALL. Everything looked completely factory and was hidden behind factory looking access panels and just perfect. That my friends is what's missing from today's car audio scene.
He missed the most important use in the military for an accurate system clock. GPS. Clock accuracy is what makes the difference between 6 meter and 1 meter accuracy. Bonus factoid: GPS satellites need to run at a different clock speed, because they are effected less by the earth's gravity, and gravity effects time. Without this tweak, GPS satellites would be extremely inaccurate. (Thanks Einstein)
It will be very exciting times when they are able to release systems that us mere mortals can afford. There currently doesn't appear to be any other manufacturers that are driving any significant competition in this portion of the market to help drive the costs down. The transition to ultra high res media itself will also be another costly endeavor. Outside of any hi-res streaming services you may use, you will need to purchase and develop a new hi-res library in order to play this system to its rated potential...
My problem is is WHERE TO FIND ALL THE HIGH RES. SONGS I WANT!!! If anyone knows please let me know Also it's funny to see what frequencies resonate with the human brain and body on different levels. Makes 1 wonder really
Most studios record at 96/24. Very occasionally they record at 192/24. But, no studio is recording above that. The return is not worth the storage requirements. Also, none of the major interfaces support anything over 192/24. It's just pointless. But, it's cool that this hardware supports it. I guess that's what F1 Status is all about. The extremes.
They don't record at that level because it's pointless. No one can tell the difference. Anything above 96/24 and its a placebo effect. Just like these F1 systems. There cool but kind of pointless. The average person listening to it won't be able to tell the difference.
Yeah, this whole thing had me laughing. "This can play audio file sizes and types that you will never have and couldn't hear the difference between it and a CD even if you could find a way to get it." Rarefied air audio sales job. Usual this level of silliness is reserved for "magical" $10,000 audio cables.
All tech has to move forward and improve. On a good quality system you can definitely hear the difference in cd quality vs DVD quality audio. So I get it. Technology has to improve over time. My sound card in my computer can do 256k at 32 bit. Best audio I can find is 96k at 24bit. So where and how to obtain better is my issue. But you can hear the difference especially at louder levels.
When he started talking about data speed and file sizes, the pc nerd kicked in. Their data rate comes out to 3.125 MB/s, so modern storage is certainly ready for that. We have PCIE Gen 4 storage capable of transferring enough data, to play over 1,900 of his songs, simultaneously. Now some of you folks with 3,000 plus uncompressed songs, are going to want to look into multi-drive SSD solutions to hold all of that data, to keep up with the future of uncompressed music. Imagine how long it'd take to transfer 10 TB of music, onto spinning rust storage. LOL
Thankfully, the cost of PCIE Gen 4 SSD's have been coming down due to competition in the market. NAS Devices will inevitably become far more main stream due to the dramatic increase to store such large data files.
@@Vegas_Baba808 Like with anything though, they'll be like, "we're sorry, but your storage device isn't supported by our head unit, but we can sell you a proprietary device for the low low price of.... "
I didn't understand most of explanation, I'm still processing. I only herd great clocks. But this guy had me listening still!!! That takes some still, I'm a $2k diy guy but I wish I had money just to try this...great job man!!
So did they also invent this imagined digital file type, the music studio that is going to produce content at this rate, the store that is going to give it to you, and the magical hearing that can tell the difference between CD bitrate files and this? This was some laughable rarefied "audiophile" air. For the folks buying what he is selling, I have $10,000 audio cables to sell you.
Great video! This was one of the more inspirational setups I've seen in a while. I work on autonomous vehicles and can totally see these level systems in the cars.
This is really cool, but in a driving environment you'd never be able to tell the difference between the different bitrates unless some of the tracks were encoded below CD.
All depends on your actual music , your car itself, speakers, and especially your own hearing sensitivity. If you're mostly listening to modern rap, pop, just compressed music in general? You'd be lucky to tell anything above 320k apart. But something more an actual band? That higher bit rate gets more noticeable
@@mpugne exactly...while moving you'd have a 60-70db noise floor... And parked you have odd shapes and a hodge podge of hard and soft surfaces.... Really cool tech but better suited for a treated room where critical listening can occur.
Great video and for explaining everything….. I always respected alpine, quality products that really focus on the SQ listening experience. They keep their products up to date with today’s technology music data….. I loved my type r’s back in 2015
So $37000 for components, plus at least a $40000 custom install that includes taking and changing the interior to get the components to sound they way they are meant to sound (in a car). Only the rich will be able to enjoy its full potential, while us poor folk can only dream. I remember back when I was able to have Alpines first set of the F1 Status SPXZ18 3 way components running with my two McIntosh amplifiers. Sounded amazing. But hell, I’d have to sell my soul to afford this.
You cloud spend way less and get a install that would be perfectly fine for most near mortals...Just get a portable dsd streamer and some nice zapco gear...and you could win most contests..
@@DA33_718 Meh you can hear these kind of systems all the time...The differences in sound quality at that high point are minute..When you go to sq meets you can hear similar systems and i bet that most people can not even tell when blindfolded what system they're hearing..And you can build a system that gets close to this same quality for fractions of the cost of this system..
It must sound incredible for Dean to have been rendered speechless. The fact that the experience was inexplicable, ironically said everything that needed to be said. Great content!
Here we go again. “We use XLR cables.” Those are designed for pro audio where long runs over 100 feet cause issues that RCA shielding doesn’t adequately control. “Our system plays over 20,000 Hz. Actually over 100,000 Hz.” That’s fantastic since I can’t hear above 15,000 Hz.
Loved the technical detail Steve and Chris explained in the video. I looked on Alpines social and cannot find any details on where the Tesla will be to go and listen. Do you have any info?
I think hi Res is going in a bad direction, the common belief is hi res is irrelevant if the human ear can’t tell the difference, tbh I think they should have just made a new drc and focus on their 16 ch dsp.
All that matters is the frequency range it is recorded and the frequency response of your amplifier and the resonance your speakers can vibrate at with no reverb. Clock frequency is only important when processing sounds to synthesise them or create them, it's not needed in car audio except when separating frequencies. Who needs CD or mp3 wav when car stereo's have small amps that need booster amps, why not buy a audio laptop and a bluetooth amp and save cash. I have a amp the has greater bandwidth than yours and speakers that are 38khz, I don't need any headunit or anything between.
Yea, that's the point of the F1 series. They got the name because tech that gets advanced in F1 racecars, trickles down to the regular production cars. They want to push the limit of what's possible, regardless of cost, with no intention of it being profitable.
I have all Alpine system 11 months later pulled everything out R series speakers sound horrible R series Amp Alpine R-A60F not good heats up very bad wouldn't recommend Alpine sorry
Overpriced regardless they're just speakers and components DSPS and amplifiers mean sq stuff is OK but for what they're asking for it in the actual sound output the human ear can actually take in and reproduce save your money
Alpine is outdated and overpriced with poor after sales support mainly with av units speakers subs and amps are good quality havn’t touched their head units in 10 years.
I would be really curious to hear an old school setup with the new stuff. For some reason, in the audio space, everything seemed to have regress to horrible audio quality.
Those who appreciate hi end audio can never afford to pay the hi end price.
A paradox of the times.
I got X Series and that cost me an Arm and Leg
I understand they have to sell this as a complete system, but I really love the look of the head unit. They should make one that looks like that
Listening to Steve explain the system was amazing. So detailed and engaging. Dude kept my attention on every word. Loved the clock and XLR explanation!
That System will sound nice in my C7 Z06
When you get into a system of that caliber the music is not just sound, but it's an emotional feeling. That can't be described.
Have you heard 1 because the Demo sounds like crap.
@@markclausson564 yeah, not sure why they would demo in a Tesla. They're known for their sound signature similar to a fish tank because the amount of glass they have. Not to mention terrible squeaky interior, no wonder they sound like doodoo in the demo
I remember way back when Steve brown won the nationals every year for sound quality with his first car. A 1988 red acura legend 4 door I believe. All alpine even then. UNBELIEVABLE CAR AND INSTALL. Everything looked completely factory and was hidden behind factory looking access panels and just perfect. That my friends is what's missing from today's car audio scene.
I love the retro 6 green buttons on the head unit paying homage to the old alpine cassette head units
The only way that "system" truely makes sense is to include unlimited free access the audio files that allow it to perform to its potential.
Please tell me XLR will be the new signal transfer. That would be a game changer!!!
Only 37 thousand I'll take 2, on second thought my crunch/boss system sounds pretty good !
Old school F1 Status goodies in my 87 Cutlass .Did a few competitions back in the day .Still sounds Great and going strong.🙂
He missed the most important use in the military for an accurate system clock. GPS. Clock accuracy is what makes the difference between 6 meter and 1 meter accuracy.
Bonus factoid: GPS satellites need to run at a different clock speed, because they are effected less by the earth's gravity, and gravity effects time. Without this tweak, GPS satellites would be extremely inaccurate. (Thanks Einstein)
It will be very exciting times when they are able to release systems that us mere mortals can afford. There currently doesn't appear to be any other manufacturers that are driving any significant competition in this portion of the market to help drive the costs down.
The transition to ultra high res media itself will also be another costly endeavor. Outside of any hi-res streaming services you may use, you will need to purchase and develop a new hi-res library in order to play this system to its rated potential...
My problem is is WHERE TO FIND ALL THE HIGH RES. SONGS I WANT!!!
If anyone knows please let me know
Also it's funny to see what frequencies resonate with the human brain and body on different levels. Makes 1 wonder really
Most studios record at 96/24. Very occasionally they record at 192/24. But, no studio is recording above that. The return is not worth the storage requirements. Also, none of the major interfaces support anything over 192/24. It's just pointless. But, it's cool that this hardware supports it. I guess that's what F1 Status is all about. The extremes.
They don't record at that level because it's pointless. No one can tell the difference. Anything above 96/24 and its a placebo effect. Just like these F1 systems. There cool but kind of pointless. The average person listening to it won't be able to tell the difference.
Yeah, this whole thing had me laughing. "This can play audio file sizes and types that you will never have and couldn't hear the difference between it and a CD even if you could find a way to get it." Rarefied air audio sales job. Usual this level of silliness is reserved for "magical" $10,000 audio cables.
@@curtisbme Yup Steve Brown has become a great "cough....snake oil... cough" salesman.
All tech has to move forward and improve. On a good quality system you can definitely hear the difference in cd quality vs DVD quality audio. So I get it. Technology has to improve over time. My sound card in my computer can do 256k at 32 bit. Best audio I can find is 96k at 24bit. So where and how to obtain better is my issue. But you can hear the difference especially at louder levels.
@@advanced8526 Umm you won't find any 256k audio at 32 bit. It's pointless. Like I said anything above 96/24 is a placebo.
Dude, the sarcasm gets old after a while. You gotta pick your spots.
When he started talking about data speed and file sizes, the pc nerd kicked in. Their data rate comes out to 3.125 MB/s, so modern storage is certainly ready for that. We have PCIE Gen 4 storage capable of transferring enough data, to play over 1,900 of his songs, simultaneously.
Now some of you folks with 3,000 plus uncompressed songs, are going to want to look into multi-drive SSD solutions to hold all of that data, to keep up with the future of uncompressed music. Imagine how long it'd take to transfer 10 TB of music, onto spinning rust storage. LOL
Thankfully, the cost of PCIE Gen 4 SSD's have been coming down due to competition in the market. NAS Devices will inevitably become far more main stream due to the dramatic increase to store such large data files.
@@Vegas_Baba808 Like with anything though, they'll be like, "we're sorry, but your storage device isn't supported by our head unit, but we can sell you a proprietary device for the low low price of.... "
i'm getting the "Status processor HDP D990 I have a Fiio Hi res player. i can't wait!! Both of those guys are gonna tune it!!!
I didn't understand most of explanation, I'm still processing. I only herd great clocks. But this guy had me listening still!!! That takes some still, I'm a $2k diy guy but I wish I had money just to try this...great job man!!
So did they also invent this imagined digital file type, the music studio that is going to produce content at this rate, the store that is going to give it to you, and the magical hearing that can tell the difference between CD bitrate files and this?
This was some laughable rarefied "audiophile" air. For the folks buying what he is selling, I have $10,000 audio cables to sell you.
25,000 kb is 25 mb😂 silly rabbits tricks are for kids 😊
Great video! This was one of the more inspirational setups I've seen in a while. I work on autonomous vehicles and can totally see these level systems in the cars.
Only 37k, ill take 2....installed in the same vehicle 👍🏻😃
@Alpine Steve If you want more wow factor, look up the Atomic Clock PCIE Card video by Dr Ian Cutress aka TechTechPotato
MAGIC SOUND alpine sound blast
This is really cool, but in a driving environment you'd never be able to tell the difference between the different bitrates unless some of the tracks were encoded below CD.
You might not be able to but there are people that can tell the difference
All depends on your actual music , your car itself, speakers, and especially your own hearing sensitivity.
If you're mostly listening to modern rap, pop, just compressed music in general? You'd be lucky to tell anything above 320k apart. But something more an actual band? That higher bit rate gets more noticeable
Yep in the end you're still in a crap environment for sound even a great sounding car is still going to be a mediocre sounding home system.
@@mpugne exactly...while moving you'd have a 60-70db noise floor... And parked you have odd shapes and a hodge podge of hard and soft surfaces.... Really cool tech but better suited for a treated room where critical listening can occur.
You can always tell the people that never had a hi end system by the comments they make🧐 Literally haven’t got a clue 🕵️♀️
Tnx for the technical data
Can we now see the system?
Great video and for explaining everything….. I always respected alpine, quality products that really focus on the SQ listening experience. They keep their products up to date with today’s technology music data….. I loved my type r’s back in 2015
Where's this "Part 2"?
I remember the Red Acura Legend back in the late 90's full of Alpine products.
Gio Arce: i remember that too! he came to our shop in santa clara ca. he was so young and excited to show anyone his car.
He lost me at pdx I threw that out for a sinfoni Desiderio current running damoreA1500.4 gz ultra a wave cr ppi f12500 monolithic 1000m etc
How much? I’m thinking only music moguls, top rappers and the like will be the target buyers of this system.
Just sell me this HDS-7909 without having to use the rest of that crap.
Key 🔑 Word…DAP! 👊
I am ineffable 😮🤗right now!
Afraid to hear it, and then get in my vehicle.
Would be nice if he didn’t bullshit. Sony and Pioneer both have nice DSD decks. Like the RSX-DS9.
WOW lots of good info there! thanks for explaining overclocking ive always heard of it but didnt really understand it!!
I wish Alpine would bring back the green Chicklets. IMO they became really ugly after they went to the blue.
Thank you for your content…..shoutout from Ypsilanti Michigan 😊
So $37000 for components, plus at least a $40000 custom install that includes taking and changing the interior to get the components to sound they way they are meant to sound (in a car). Only the rich will be able to enjoy its full potential, while us poor folk can only dream.
I remember back when I was able to have Alpines first set of the F1 Status SPXZ18 3 way components running with my two McIntosh amplifiers. Sounded amazing. But hell, I’d have to sell my soul to afford this.
You cloud spend way less and get a install that would be perfectly fine for most near mortals...Just get a portable dsd streamer and some nice zapco gear...and you could win most contests..
Should be 37k installed when i first heard about the system i called a shop thats authorized to install the system
Think of this as the Bugatti veyron. You may never see or hear this system.
@@DA33_718 Meh you can hear these kind of systems all the time...The differences in sound quality at that high point are minute..When you go to sq meets you can hear similar systems and i bet that most people can not even tell when blindfolded what system they're hearing..And you can build a system that gets close to this same quality for fractions of the cost of this system..
37k 😢
What I want to know is how available is the music content that would make this system play at the highest level.
you didn't "literally had to re-invent the wheel" you "figuratively had to re-invent the wheel"
Man, that's a nice system no doubt but I'll stick with mine vs paying over 30k! That's ridiculous. Very cool but ridiculous
It must sound incredible for Dean to have been rendered speechless. The fact that the experience was inexplicable, ironically said everything that needed to be said. Great content!
how can we find out when they are gonna take the car on tour? i would love to check it out!
mkay
When will Alpine do a Radio for BMW X1 F48?
So how is the signal sent front the deck to the processor by xlr or Bluetooth ?
As soon as I saw that it was a Tesla I changed the channel bye
I guess the biggest question of all is is the memory expandable
mkay
mkay
The alpine dude is selling it to the wrong people , he’s talking down not too
Clarion has this system or similar, nobody bought it.
Then there is me recording 24/96 files for my phone
Where can I get the metal tubing that is holding the wiring?
Level Pro👍🏼
How the unit store all that high resolution files?
alpine DAP player
That steering wheel looks like KITTS lol
doesnt even play any music
Here we go again.
“We use XLR cables.”
Those are designed for pro audio where long runs over 100 feet cause issues that RCA shielding doesn’t adequately control.
“Our system plays over 20,000 Hz. Actually over 100,000 Hz.”
That’s fantastic since I can’t hear above 15,000 Hz.
Emmmm kay......
alpine sucks now
For that money, I'd expect a cesium clock in that thing.
Next, Alpine might start using MAC's. Lol
WOW…. WTF
30k huh
Almost choked when he said the price....dam he is brilliant
Sounds like microchips, its all too digital - Dethklok
Loved the technical detail Steve and Chris explained in the video. I looked on Alpines social and cannot find any details on where the Tesla will be to go and listen. Do you have any info?
Yeah... you lost me at ~ 21:40 when he dropped the price.
What is the name of the second piece of music played.
The last hoorah before Alpine leaves the aftermarket???
Holy cow does that price include custom install as well…
I really want to plan a trip down to Fla for an install.
I think hi Res is going in a bad direction, the common belief is hi res is irrelevant if the human ear can’t tell the difference, tbh I think they should have just made a new drc and focus on their 16 ch dsp.
I remember the X5 with the amazing artwork on it and the clear back.
Is this the new age JL Audio??? 37000 dollars for a car audio system when cars don't last long and audio loses 65 percent of it's value used
Ok…… ok……………..ok……..ok……………..ok……………😂
Our goal is no bitrot.
Goodmorning Dean
Class d is not digital…
Thanks for showing this
All that matters is the frequency range it is recorded and the frequency response of your amplifier and the resonance your speakers can vibrate at with no reverb. Clock frequency is only important when processing sounds to synthesise them or create them, it's not needed in car audio except when separating frequencies. Who needs CD or mp3 wav when car stereo's have small amps that need booster amps, why not buy a audio laptop and a bluetooth amp and save cash. I have a amp the has greater bandwidth than yours and speakers that are 38khz, I don't need any headunit or anything between.
Mind blowing 🤯
The best ever?
"SQOLOBBQ" in Aggieland at MTi (Sound Quality Compeition) is the first weekend of August. Come beat the best......
The old Alphasonic/US Acoustic 4x50... it has 0.005 THD.... ZED power.
They are sleeper amps.... but
Tesla plaid. Great platform choice 👏
P100D*
Rated very poor in reliability.
@@mmmadog one of the worst new cars you can buy, but it doesnt really matter in this application
.... $2,600 for an Alpine sub!!!? GTFO!!! That bewlshit....
It would be nice to be able to hear that ,but kind of Ridiculous cause none of us can afford it. Was really turned off by the price.
Yea, that's the point of the F1 series. They got the name because tech that gets advanced in F1 racecars, trickles down to the regular production cars. They want to push the limit of what's possible, regardless of cost, with no intention of it being profitable.
I have all Alpine system 11 months later pulled everything out R series speakers sound horrible R series Amp Alpine R-A60F not good heats up very bad wouldn't recommend Alpine sorry
Overpriced regardless they're just speakers and components DSPS and amplifiers mean sq stuff is OK but for what they're asking for it in the actual sound output the human ear can actually take in and reproduce save your money
sounds like a used car salesman
Alpine is outdated and overpriced with poor after sales support mainly with av units speakers subs and amps are good quality havn’t touched their head units in 10 years.
30 thousand? Lol
30k 😂 new age sound systems cost more than old school entry level cars
Shhheeeeeeyyiiiit... his BMW’s were more insane that a George barris show car! I think they were really tacky.... not timeless/classic.
I lost faith in Alpine's ability to make something sound good after hearing their "SQ" Demo Tundra. It sounded horrible.
I would be really curious to hear an old school setup with the new stuff. For some reason, in the audio space, everything seemed to have regress to horrible audio quality.
@@WXSTANG👋😎❌ agreed but not all , you’ve still got to know what you’re doing ✅
Sounds like the Master clock will be a electric drain when the vehicle is not running. Deal killer
the center stack doesn't look so hot... but this is an incredible system