Lydon’s wife has Alzheimer’s. He loves her very much and is devoted to taking care of her. He wants to keep her home, not send her to some kind of nursing home. He’s a good man. He’s an excellent example of not judging a book by its cover. God bless him.
Oh yeah,Nora has Alzheimer and I feel so sorry for Johnny💖 and two of his brothers have cancer.Johnny is a very good man & very kind hearted.God bless him and his family💝💝💝
But he was "selling out", by 1) Saying PiL (the clue is in the name) is a company not a band. 2) Going in for the experimental music that Lydon had explictedy deride during his time in the Pistols. It's really not 'rocket science' to understand, just more like 'cognitive dissonance' if you can't.
@@sunnyjim1355 if you think PIL sold out, in that era, you are clearly deluded, and its not rocket science to think otherwise despite your "cognitive dissonance" bollox you print.........
you are correct Dylan Kidd, and that someone was from angelic upstarts who having jumped on the bandwagon, failed to get anywhere near PIL. If country and western was fashionable in 77/78, the upstarts would have all bought themselves horses...
You never listen to word that I said, You only seen me For the clothes that I wear, or did the interest go so much deeper It must have been the colour of my hair.
So sad to hear today that Keith Levene has died. This incredible performance is a fitting testament to his extraordinary talent. A true original and a massive inspiration to everyone of the punk/post-punk generation. He will be very sorely missed.
They watched a group of nobodies dissing them, and then expected to just sit there. Nice to actually see the uneditted version where it shows the programme as being the arseholes and not PIL, as over the years you were meant to think.
C'mon, lok the band were being total pretentious, arseholes. I love them as much as you but Lydon had this almost personality disorder. This has be borne out in subsequent interviews. But I still find it hilarious!
TurntablesRockmyworld et al...Like yourself I thought PIL when they were a band '78-'81 were great (so were 'Pistols)... Wobble & Levene have 'grown up'...Lydon never has ..for 40yrs now if not praised he doesn't engage, makes statements, stares ,goes silent , does "look I'm from Finsbury Park ,so I know" act or bullies with his 'mates'/minders... ...( I also highly rated the 'Upstarts & SLF live & on record '78-'80)...but this is 12mins of 'all in cringing embarrassment' for everybody involved...
@@andchat6241 Yes, I agree. Watch Lydon in this clip with a punk round-table with Tommy Ramone, Henry Rollins, Duff Mckagan. Just cringeworthy: narcissist, cringeworthy, rude,ugly etc. Hard to watch. Like the drunk old guy in the pub that everyone is trying to avoid. th-cam.com/video/HhVZLL1pMQ0/w-d-xo.html
Hardly being trapped on a show that's asking about the new group image and their musical direction. Very basic really. He never really said much in interviews and anything that provoked an interesting response was met with his fake hard man stare down and jaw jutting which resulted in him usually saying "next question". Fair play for making a career of it though
@@blueblood3108 except what do you expect? They literally had a bunch of nobody’s slag him and his band off for 5 minutes and expected him to be civil and answer their stupid questions which of themselves showed how out of touch they were with PIL and the punk movement by 1979.
@@blueblood3108 oh yeah those interviewers were so innocent. they just had a clip of some douchebag talking shit about Johnny Rotten lined up to show him and his band while on the air. I wonder why they would do that cause they seemed so friendly.
R.I.P Keith Levene, one of the most influential, and unique guitarists of all time. He's easily in my top 5 guitarists of all time. I never got the chance to see perform live, but he use to live in my hometown, I would see him walk around in the town centre, I never went up to him geeking like a school girl, or asked for his autograph, but i'd be in awe of him. My thoughts are with his family.
Well..., you are right in that they were NOT parroting 77 Punk (which is nice & brave of them),..., but the "Absolutely Revolutionary" statement is a little over the top, I´m afraid. They sound like a SLOPPY, LEAST TALENTED, VERSION of what the german band CAN had been doing since 1968. Same thing, only NOT half as good.
@@chrisjames6327 100% agree. Chant has frantic and dissonant guitar playing which helps convey the feelings of mob mentality (especially during riots), hence the lyrics "mob, war, feel hate." Keith's sloppy playing was done intentionally, but unfortunately some people just can't think deeply enough to understand the ideas in the music. Plus, their style was actually quite revolutionary as it would go on to influence a lot of different experimental music later on, especially some of what was being done in post-punk. Sure the music itself isn't necessarily as skillful or as calculated as CAN's music, but these were punk rockers at heart who were putting their own spin on experimental music. It was all quite artful, and definitely boundary pushing for its time.
Thanks for posting the entire thing. It's extremely rare and people judged the band for being rude to the interviewers, but they didn't know the full context.
Definitely unfair to have put up the cut down version previously that makes Lydon look like he was being an awkward twat for no reason. This shows how the TV show was trying to wind him up to get a reaction, cheap 'gotcha' publicity stunt, just plain rude and ignorant way to treat a guest.
I love how whenever this is used in other documentaries it’s chopped down to try and show Wobble and Lydon as volatile and arsey people, but as the old Guardian advert says it’s only when you get the full picture that you can fully understand what’s going on! Thanks for this upload it’s invaluable!!!!
One of my favs too and an influence on my playing. I also play bass and Jah Wobble is a big influence when it comes to that instrument. I wish Jah Wobble stayed with the band for it's entirety. Same with Keith levene. I can only imagine the things they could've done.
@@danielaschwarz1971 ..exactly ..in the same way Lydon would call virtually anybody in a band pre 1976 'a boring old fart'..... Andy Blade of Eater (with their 14 year old drummer, Dee Generate) called the Pistols 'too old!'
It’s absurd how many so called “journalists” back then would treat Lydon and other controversial artists of the time like dirt and with no respect or courtesy. When he was in the pistols he was already under constant scrutiny for being honest and raw, but when the idea of punk became trendy, and the label itself proved marketable for the media to use, artists like John and company were accused of not being punk enough, (whatever that means). It’s so brutally epic how he takes the crap they constantly threw at him and gave it right back. It’s also pretty funny how in the thumbnail he almost looks cheery and amicable.
No staged reality but real life and art. This is TV at its very best, but unfortunatley these times are long gone. And what a performance by the best PIL line-up
"The Lydon Death Glare!" I've liked you since I've been 14 John. Still honest and still making music. Some people blamed Lydon for not dying and thriving. Good on you John! Why did they follow some nitwit shouting his mouth off?
I just came back and watched this two years after first seeing it, and the thing I find the most shocking is that PIL sat there and watched the crap interview with that Angelic Upstart nobody. That showed true patience! Total setup by the show, and I'm amazed they stuck around as long as they did.
My first time seeing the whole thing.. He had every right to be pissed off..they didn't want the full band in the interview..then proceed to show a video of someone talking shit about him...I would have busted that TV..
There would be no angelic upstairs without Sex Pistols or Lydon That name is really dumb too My hope is angelic upstairs are in some nursing home right Now
That's the whole point, you moron... to get you to feel empathy for the 'under dog'. Now our whole society is based on 'victimhood' because of idiots like you.
I seriously think that he was considering trashing the TV. This was very low and disrespectful treatment of any band or singer. Invite on a show and play a 10 minute video of a nasty, critical, and jealous person that has nothing good to say. I'd of walked off, too. Even sooner.
I wish I could like this 50 times. The Angelic upstarts cutting a promo on Lydon was golden. The tune PiL did was epic too. And the hapless 1979 presenters were hilariously lame. And the iceing on the cake was the ending credits music. Perfect lols👌
Most significant thing about Keith Levene was, he got bored with The Clash and how right he was. A truly magnificent guitarist on his day, thanks for the arpeggios mate.
Great to see the full version of that intellectual upstart making a complete arse of himself, , , , , even better to see PIL taking the piss out of everyone.
Two extra bits. The interviewer was Chris Cowey reportedly in his first ever tv interview. The woman is Lyn Spencer. She was previously at teacher training college with Sting, and when the Police appeared on the show he reportedly tore her off a strip for her part in this travesty of an interview.
Not sure about it being Cowey's first interview, it might have been. The point is that Cowey was on the production team and worked with his team to set this disgraceful stand-off up along with another fake music fan called Malcolm Gerrie.
Wow... Amazing. Only ever seen the couple of minutes this is famous for, and having seen the rest of it, it gives a lot of context. They were on a stitch-up job they were probably planning for weeks. Good on PiL for digging in there and not standing for it.
This was amazing to see the full thing finally. I've seen the this PIL interview before with Johnny losing it but now it's clear why. A classic, just like the Grundy from '76! 😂🤣
@@davemcmahon4045 i think he lost the argument when he said "for a start, i'm a lot better looking than Lydon". I always say the personal insult is the last bastion of the lost argument.
This interview never made sense until I saw then entire thing. What the interviewers did earned them the response they got. But it all makes sense in context! Thank you for posting.
Same ... it was looking like the greatest gig I'd ever seen until all the spitting started. Got to tell Wobble and Levene that backstage in 2012 when they did Metal Box In Dub in Shoreditch, London. Magnificent.
Finally, at long last and in its entirety, the infamous PIL tv appearance. Check it Out! British Television history. Thankyou for the upload. MOB WAR KILL HATE...
Brutal news to read of Keith's passing yesterday... but a great time to revisit First Issue and Metal Box and reflect on how lucky we were to be music lovers around that time... bon voyage, Mr Levene!
Agreed! I'm definitley giving both albums a re listen, as much as I love this band I never overlistened to them if you know what I mean? I absolutely love this footage of PiL! All the best. Sad to hear about Keith.
@@doctorvonbrown881 Maybe the right time to have another listen to "Flowers of romance" too? It's a bit of a sleeper, so to speak but I'd have to say it's their most interesting sounding album. "Under the house", indeed!
@@MisAnnThorpe Yeh I should do, I also saw the documentary on P.I.L recently here on TH-cam which passed me by somehow. Was good! Thanks for your comment
I'm not the biggest Sex Pistols/PIL connoisseur, but if the guitarist can play, then I just want people to know how bad it is to play guitar badly and have it still work with the music.
The group or company..are 100% for the music. The interviewers were just 100% celebrity personage..therefore they drew a blank. Bought the first two albums when first came out and still play them. Chant is one of the great tracks off PIL 2nd edition.
6:54. "wa doon wanna end up like Genesis or anything like that ya knoo".. like a dog turd might sprout wings and fly if it wasn't careful.. I like the Angelic Upstarts' version of Firth of Fifth though.. especially the intro.
Man. I can remember being 15, growing up outside Philly in the 90s, and I just wanted to be John Lydon. He was just too cool for school, looked great and had the best style and coolest attitude. Still does!
Love the look on John's face when they did that interview ! It was designed to upset him and worked a treat and the smug look on the interviewers face is priceless. lmao
@@davidjameschamberlain part of his brilliance was being 'behind the curve' in a way - his musical hero was Steve Howe of 'prog-dinosaurs' Yes ( for whom he was a roadie/guitar tech)
The Pistols never played Detroit , but Johnny & The boys popped up in town on an awkward Thursday * At a Roller Rink ! THEE most ~ unique ~ show ℹ've Ever seen
Lydon’s wife has Alzheimer’s. He loves her very much and is devoted to taking care of her. He wants to keep her home, not send her to some kind of nursing home. He’s a good man. He’s an excellent example of not judging a book by its cover. God bless him.
Well said...
Yes i totaly agree, he is an example
Oh yeah,Nora has Alzheimer and I feel so sorry for Johnny💖 and two of his brothers have cancer.Johnny is a very good man & very kind hearted.God bless him and his family💝💝💝
I had to look an d see If I was the one that wrote that . I SO agree with you !! God bless John Lydon
@@rp61productions RP61PRODUCTIONS AWESOME CHANNEL. ✊🏻
i love that someone could listen to the least commercial song of all time and accuse lydon of "selling out"
But he was "selling out", by 1) Saying PiL (the clue is in the name) is a company not a band. 2) Going in for the experimental music that Lydon had explictedy deride during his time in the Pistols. It's really not 'rocket science' to understand, just more like 'cognitive dissonance' if you can't.
@@sunnyjim1355 He preferred CAN over Pink Floyd so i think that's the diffrence between what he derided and what the group where into.
@@sunnyjim1355 if you think PIL sold out, in that era, you are clearly deluded, and its not rocket science to think otherwise despite your "cognitive dissonance" bollox you print.........
you are correct Dylan Kidd, and that someone was from angelic upstarts who having jumped on the bandwagon, failed to get anywhere near PIL. If country and western was fashionable in 77/78, the upstarts would have all bought themselves horses...
The Upstarts. What a bunch of fucking losers.
I agree with John Lydon. The interview was a sham.
A sham 69? 🤔
he went wiki LoL
@@wescollins2981 they're going down the pub instead 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
whole thing felt like a sketch...
You never listen to word that I said, You only seen me
For the clothes that I wear, or did the interest go so much deeper
It must have been the colour of my hair.
And no one remembers the name of both of those interviewers but john lydon is a national treasure and we be remembered forever
A national treasure is a bit over the top, he does speak the truth at times (Jimmy savile ( but is also highly obnoxious and at times very sharp
It was Malcolm Gerrie and Lyn Spencer actually mate
@@alanlittle3941 It was Chris Cowie not Malcolm Gerrie
@@mikemusic8213 i actually saw chris cowey in sunderland many years ago.
..and more to the point, who remembers that bloke from Angelic Upstarts... Mond who? Or any AU records. Disposable.
So sad to hear today that Keith Levene has died. This incredible performance is a fitting testament to his extraordinary talent. A true original and a massive inspiration to everyone of the punk/post-punk generation. He will be very sorely missed.
he died from being poisoned by courtney love
Heroin overdose
@@ehLeanne311liver cancer, not an OD
Fuckin he'll just found out that now. Had my head up my arse for years. Sad shit mate.
They watched a group of nobodies dissing them, and then expected to just sit there. Nice to actually see the uneditted version where it shows the programme as being the arseholes and not PIL, as over the years you were meant to think.
Pete Marr Angelic Upstarts Are Nobodies?
@@rockrecords222s Well, idiotic nobodies to give them credit. Wankers in fact. Idiotic wankers.
C'mon, lok the band were being total pretentious, arseholes. I love them as much as you but Lydon had this almost personality disorder. This has be borne out in subsequent interviews. But I still find it hilarious!
TurntablesRockmyworld et al...Like yourself I thought PIL when they were a band '78-'81 were great (so were 'Pistols)... Wobble & Levene have 'grown up'...Lydon never has ..for 40yrs now if not praised he doesn't engage, makes statements, stares ,goes silent , does "look I'm from Finsbury Park ,so I know" act or bullies with his 'mates'/minders...
...( I also highly rated the 'Upstarts & SLF live & on record '78-'80)...but this is 12mins of 'all in cringing embarrassment' for everybody involved...
@@andchat6241 Yes, I agree. Watch Lydon in this clip with a punk round-table with Tommy Ramone, Henry Rollins, Duff Mckagan. Just cringeworthy: narcissist, cringeworthy, rude,ugly etc. Hard to watch. Like the drunk old guy in the pub that everyone is trying to avoid. th-cam.com/video/HhVZLL1pMQ0/w-d-xo.html
I love watching his interviews. He really didn't let the interviewers trap him into whatever angle they were trying to push.
Yeah, Johnny was a genius at handling the media. He had to be. Nothing but respect for the man.
Yes! He saw 3 miles ahead of everyone in the room
Hardly being trapped on a show that's asking about the new group image and their musical direction. Very basic really. He never really said much in interviews and anything that provoked an interesting response was met with his fake hard man stare down and jaw jutting which resulted in him usually saying "next question".
Fair play for making a career of it though
@@blueblood3108 except what do you expect? They literally had a bunch of nobody’s slag him and his band off for 5 minutes and expected him to be civil and answer their stupid questions which of themselves showed how out of touch they were with PIL and the punk movement by 1979.
@@blueblood3108 oh yeah those interviewers were so innocent. they just had a clip of some douchebag talking shit about Johnny Rotten lined up to show him and his band while on the air. I wonder why they would do that cause they seemed so friendly.
R.I.P Keith Levene, one of the most influential, and unique guitarists of all time. He's easily in my top 5 guitarists of all time. I never got the chance to see perform live, but he use to live in my hometown, I would see him walk around in the town centre, I never went up to him geeking like a school girl, or asked for his autograph, but i'd be in awe of him. My thoughts are with his family.
He died? When?
@@Boilingfrogg 11th November.
@@SynthJohn cheers.
What guitar is he using?
Damming. Didn't know he passed. Thanks for the info.
This version of PIL was absolutely revolutionary and was doing music that was truly original and not just parroting 1977 punk. Fantastic!
Well..., you are right in that they were NOT parroting 77 Punk (which is nice & brave of them),...,
but the "Absolutely Revolutionary" statement is a little over the top, I´m afraid. They sound like a SLOPPY, LEAST TALENTED, VERSION of what the german band CAN had been doing since 1968.
Same thing, only NOT half as good.
to me, PIL was very reminiscent of John Lennon and Yoko Ono's "Plastic Ono Band" albums. Very unique takes!!
@@locuacidadsindiluir1696 it's not sloppy. They're playing that way on purpose. It's supposed to be avant garde. Can were a lot more mainstream/pop
@@chrisjames6327 100% agree. Chant has frantic and dissonant guitar playing which helps convey the feelings of mob mentality (especially during riots), hence the lyrics "mob, war, feel hate." Keith's sloppy playing was done intentionally, but unfortunately some people just can't think deeply enough to understand the ideas in the music. Plus, their style was actually quite revolutionary as it would go on to influence a lot of different experimental music later on, especially some of what was being done in post-punk. Sure the music itself isn't necessarily as skillful or as calculated as CAN's music, but these were punk rockers at heart who were putting their own spin on experimental music. It was all quite artful, and definitely boundary pushing for its time.
@@chrisjames6327 Ahh the old Avant Garde a clue argument?
Legendary session... This early line-up with Levene and Wobble was on fire. RIP Keith.
Too bad John sounds like a dying cat on fire
@@Haerinx87 that's his p.i.l voice! apparently he blew out his voice in the sex pistols and had to go falsetto for p.i.l.
unfortunately that's too true
@@Haerinx87
unfortunately that's too true, also
@@Haerinx87 I think that's the whole point...
8:05
Sorry, fella. Lydon had the last laugh. He’s stood the test of time, and he is still going strong!
@Bloom Tik Bloom The kid in the video or Lydon?
@@nectarinedreams7208Lydon is still alive. The guy from the Angelic Upstarts I think died last year.
I still remember Nana humming this as she baked biscuits. ♥
Wish I had a Nana like that.
carl lynch Nice
Thank you for making my day Carl
Carl...now that...was funny. 👍😁👍
Nana had good taste!
Those interviewers were disgustingly rude to get a reaction out of John, because he’s infamously defensive. But he stayed calm, good on him.
Thanks for posting the entire thing. It's extremely rare and people judged the band for being rude to the interviewers, but they didn't know the full context.
Yes i was surprised by John's subdued response. Mark E. Smith would've destroyed them for that sham. He'd empty drinks on and them for sure ))
Definitely unfair to have put up the cut down version previously that makes Lydon look like he was being an awkward twat for no reason. This shows how the TV show was trying to wind him up to get a reaction, cheap 'gotcha' publicity stunt, just plain rude and ignorant way to treat a guest.
@sexobscura Why am I cursed now or something?
Jon Crossland.
👍🏻. I never trust an incomplete story.
I love how whenever this is used in other documentaries it’s chopped down to try and show Wobble and Lydon as volatile and arsey people, but as the old Guardian advert says it’s only when you get the full picture that you can fully understand what’s going on! Thanks for this upload it’s invaluable!!!!
this is the first time that I've seen the whole thing, and was thinking the exact same
I've waited 40 years to finally see the full version again after seeing it on Tyne Tees and it changing my life ! This is major !
You are so damn right,so I wait 40years to see se full version of this interview again ;D
My dad might have watched it if it was on Tyne Tees...i'm gonna ask him.
Sure would like the JW uncensored audio at the end tho........
Steve Dinsdale it changed your life?? Wtf lol
@@Eleventhearlofmars
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Keith Levene is one of my favorite guitar players of all time, huge influence on my playing
Rip Keith
One of my favs too and an influence on my playing. I also play bass and Jah Wobble is a big influence when it comes to that instrument. I wish Jah Wobble stayed with the band for it's entirety. Same with Keith levene. I can only imagine the things they could've done.
@@Rshields388Lou Edmonds is great in his own right but Keith really made their sound I think
Johnny was 23 years old and that nobody called him an old man wtf?
@Creenge Obviously not if I was wondering wtf that guy was talking about.
@@Gleason53 I think he ment this guy where he said at 08:07:Johnny Rotten is finish,he is a old man.
@@danielaschwarz1971 ..exactly ..in the same way Lydon would call virtually anybody in a band pre 1976 'a boring old fart'.....
Andy Blade of Eater (with their 14 year old drummer, Dee Generate) called the Pistols 'too old!'
@@andchat6241 stranglers were called old farts while only jet black was 40 back then, the rest were in late 20s
Jeolus
It’s absurd how many so called “journalists” back then would treat Lydon and other controversial artists of the time like dirt and with no respect or courtesy. When he was in the pistols he was already under constant scrutiny for being honest and raw, but when the idea of punk became trendy, and the label itself proved marketable for the media to use, artists like John and company were accused of not being punk enough, (whatever that means). It’s so brutally epic how he takes the crap they constantly threw at him and gave it right back. It’s also pretty funny how in the thumbnail he almost looks cheery and amicable.
Well said!
No staged reality but real life and art. This is TV at its very best, but unfortunatley these times are long gone. And what a performance by the best PIL line-up
4:09 "and we get paid for this!" haha
RIP Keith Levene, your astounding guitar work made this clip hum with electricity!
Took the interviewers less than a minute to coax out the infamous Lydon death glare 5:15
"The Lydon Death Glare!" I've liked you since I've been 14 John. Still honest and still making music. Some people blamed Lydon for not dying and thriving. Good on you John! Why did they follow some nitwit shouting his mouth off?
It's a fabricated act, you utter moron.
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One just doesn't talk shit about fellow musicians, especially in public.
unless it's those subhuman degenerates on the x-factor.oooops,sorry i meant musicians
Well, Lydon did and does it all the time..
Human League "old hippes?"
I just came back and watched this two years after first seeing it, and the thing I find the most shocking is that PIL sat there and watched the crap interview with that Angelic Upstart nobody. That showed true patience! Total setup by the show, and I'm amazed they stuck around as long as they did.
Can’t stop laughing over the beeping followed by the best mic drop in history lolol every time
"poonk".
lol
Heroin Spook
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Funniest comment ever!
My first time seeing the whole thing..
He had every right to be pissed off..they didn't want the full band in the interview..then proceed to show a video of someone talking shit about him...I would have busted that TV..
Johnny would be likely to do that too. That Interview was bullshit
There would be no angelic upstairs without Sex Pistols or Lydon
That name is really dumb too
My hope is angelic upstairs are in some nursing home right
Now
That's the whole point, you moron... to get you to feel empathy for the 'under dog'. Now our whole society is based on 'victimhood' because of idiots like you.
I seriously think that he was considering trashing the TV. This was very low and disrespectful treatment of any band or singer. Invite on a show and play a 10 minute video of a nasty, critical, and jealous person that has nothing good to say. I'd of walked off, too. Even sooner.
@@ScaryPsychobabble with you 💯
I wish I could like this 50 times. The Angelic upstarts cutting a promo on Lydon was golden. The tune PiL did was epic too. And the hapless 1979 presenters were hilariously lame. And the iceing on the cake was the ending credits music. Perfect lols👌
I swear that Chant song in the start is growing on me. It’s got such raw anger and energy in it, I bloody love it nowadays.
Same first time hearing it i found it pretty boring but now it’s one of my favourite tracks on the album
I wonder what the chant is😂
@@traprosey “it’s a ditty! Love it or leave it”
Johnny Rotten, 1980 on the Tomorrow Show with Tom Snyder
PIL were innovative and unique! John Lydon such a charismatic performer. Fantastic clip!
PIL were as groundbreaking as Roxy Music were in the 70s
Most significant thing about Keith Levene was, he got bored with The Clash and how right he was. A truly magnificent guitarist on his day, thanks for the arpeggios mate.
I saw PiL live once and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. And I've seen a LOT.
Great to see the full version of that intellectual upstart making a complete arse of himself, , , , , even better to see PIL taking the piss out of everyone.
"Cheapstake comedy interrogation act", rather beautifully put.
Total set up,fair play to John and Pil,far better band than Angelic Upstarts
ZERO comparison ...... John Lydon ..... LEGEND !.... Angelic WHO ??
not exactly difficult.
Two extra bits. The interviewer was Chris Cowey reportedly in his first ever tv interview. The woman is Lyn Spencer. She was previously at teacher training college with Sting, and when the Police appeared on the show he reportedly tore her off a strip for her part in this travesty of an interview.
She gives teachers a bad name.
My wife's son cooked for sting at a restaurant in Chicago a few times.
Not sure about it being Cowey's first interview, it might have been. The point is that Cowey was on the production team and worked with his team to set this disgraceful stand-off up along with another fake music fan called Malcolm Gerrie.
At last! For decades have wanted to see the full version, well done.
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@@sidvicious05 what????Are you alive:D
I wanna hear what Wobble said ;-DDDD
Isn’t this why we love Lydon
he's a twat these days though..vanished up his own arse years ago..bloke is stuck in a loop around 1980
@@porterhall27 Doing commercials for butter recently, I believe. Lovely lad.
inertia27 go fuck yourself he still doing very good performances check it out before opening your mouth. we'll see where you at in your '60s
Good bloke during the 70s. But he’s sold out since then
@@aestheticaltwathe laughs all the way to the bank and at you
Thank you for this, maybe in 40 years when could see the unbleeped version, cheers!
This is straight from the archive reel so the beeps will most likely never be removed unfortunately. Which is a shame. ;)
@@Heston68 where did you find the archive reel?
@@duncansmoviesandanimation6555 Can't really say
Wow... Amazing.
Only ever seen the couple of minutes this is famous for, and having seen the rest of it, it gives a lot of context.
They were on a stitch-up job they were probably planning for weeks.
Good on PiL for digging in there and not standing for it.
This sound defined post punk and bands such as Joy Division and Siouxsie. Very pioneering in their Sound
You are a genius...i cant believe i finally see the full thing
Was never a punk...but John Lydon is a legend!
This was amazing to see the full thing finally. I've seen the this PIL interview before with Johnny losing it but now it's clear why. A classic, just like the Grundy from '76! 😂🤣
thats probably what the check it out people wanted just another grundy like outburst from our dear jon
Johnny is by no means handsome, but I can't take my eyes off him, his face is just so intense and so alive and in a way, he truly is beautiful
A strikingly chiselled phisog.
bet you have dated nothing but losers
This is still ahead it's time, maybe be another 5000 years to go.
I've wanted to see this entire clip for years. Thanks for uploading mate!
yeah right is just trash!!!!!!!!!
Wow, wow, wow, thank you, John Heston, for posting this rare footage!
Have been waiting forever to see it!
John Lydon has had a long career. The Angelic guy was obviously very wrong.
I don't think the angelic upstarts guy's a member of the genesis fan club then
I think he was wasted, angelic upstart's are a great band, but i think he was talking rubbish
Everybody says stupid shit when they're young that they later regret saying. We just don't always have the tv cameras rolling when we say it.
@@davemcmahon4045 i think he lost the argument when he said "for a start, i'm a lot better looking than Lydon". I always say the personal insult is the last bastion of the lost argument.
@@dyr234 Angelic WHO?? LOL LOSERS !! By comparison to John Lydon. Wanna be posers at best ! Where are they now ? LMAO !!
This interview never made sense until I saw then entire thing. What the interviewers did earned them the response they got. But it all makes sense in context! Thank you for posting.
rest in peace Keith, what a huge loss.
Very sad to hear of the passing of Keith Levine - A great talent .....
They were spoiling for a fight, yet John et al remained unbelievably calm with their responses. Can’t believe he didn’t walk out sooner.
I love when Wobble gets up at the end and his entire speech is bleeped out.
I'd kill to hear that part uncensored.
He was calling them effing amateurs and shitheads
The Angelic Upstarts...yeah, we all remember them!
Mensi. Killed by a breathing stimulator helmet. RIP.
Saw this tour at the Grand Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles.. 1980
Excellent! 🌹
Same ... it was looking like the greatest gig I'd ever seen until all the spitting started. Got to tell Wobble and Levene that backstage in 2012 when they did Metal Box In Dub in Shoreditch, London. Magnificent.
Finally, at long last and in its entirety, the infamous PIL tv appearance. Check it Out! British Television history. Thankyou for the upload. MOB WAR KILL HATE...
voice moaning in a speaker ...
Totally demented! I’d love to lock all the X Factor generation into a hall for a week and force them to listen to PIL!
and the talking heads
Brutal news to read of Keith's passing yesterday... but a great time to revisit First Issue and Metal Box and reflect on how lucky we were to be music lovers around that time... bon voyage, Mr Levene!
Agreed! I'm definitley giving both albums a re listen, as much as I love this band I never overlistened to them if you know what I mean? I absolutely love this footage of PiL! All the best. Sad to hear about Keith.
@@doctorvonbrown881 Maybe the right time to have another listen to "Flowers of romance" too? It's a bit of a sleeper, so to speak but I'd have to say it's their most interesting sounding album. "Under the house", indeed!
@@MisAnnThorpe Yeh I should do, I also saw the documentary on P.I.L recently here on TH-cam which passed me by somehow. Was good! Thanks for your comment
That guitar work is insane
More punk than punk
Love it
Completely agree.
When you get it , you get it
I'm not the biggest Sex Pistols/PIL connoisseur, but if the guitarist can play, then I just want people to know how bad it is to play guitar badly and have it still work with the music.
I’m not surprised he stormed off. Yes, they were awkward to interview & yes they had chips on their shoulders but this was an adolescent tv ambush.
Be great if there had been subtitles for those Germans walking through the docks.
Did your autocorrect turn 'Geordies' into 'Germans?'
Hahaha, funniest comment I've seen in a while.
Give em to the scots!
😂😂😂😂
Move any mountain 😎
at last the full version... stil dont know what wobble says behind the bleeps tho!
'fuck you assholes i'm done' very likely LOL
Called them for all the cunts they are worth no doubt...
He said: "Look... I'm jolly cross with you, rotters. This wasn't call for and I've a good mind to come round and see your parents."
I remember seeing clips of this performance on TH-cam 15 years ago but I’m so glad to get the whole performance of Chant and in much better wuality
Context is everything
PIL is ART
Amazing performance, timeless. The real deal...
Thanks for uploading the full clip! Quite something.
Bringing back memories I loved PIL and had crushes on them in 1978 when I was sixteen . I love them still now especially Johnny and Keith
Sad to hear the news of Keith Levene's passing today, RIP. His influence can be heard all over post-punk/alternative music.
PIL are still going , Thanks to John .
The group or company..are 100% for the music. The interviewers were just 100% celebrity personage..therefore they drew a blank. Bought the first two albums when first came out and still play them. Chant is one of the great tracks off PIL 2nd edition.
It's the one track I usually skip from Metal Box. Strange, eh?
I bought all of them, through Flowers of Romance and Commercial Zone. Then Keith left, and I lost interest.
Thanks John for getting this up ... long awaited mate, cheers!
PILGold - thank you
The whole interview, fantastic!
6:54. "wa doon wanna end up like Genesis or anything like that ya knoo".. like a dog turd might sprout wings and fly if it wasn't careful.. I like the Angelic Upstarts' version of Firth of Fifth though.. especially the intro.
The path is clear, though no punks can see
Man. I can remember being 15, growing up outside Philly in the 90s, and I just wanted to be John Lydon. He was just too cool for school, looked great and had the best style and coolest attitude. Still does!
R.I.P. Keith Levene.
You were a truly original guitarist.
JAH WOBBLE!
BubbaZen10 yessir 🍻
BubbaZen10
Still the Daddy
I was a massive fan of his brother, Weeble.
Easily one of the greatest interviews ever.
this is pure art....... OMG....
Love the look on John's face when they did that interview ! It was designed to upset him and worked a treat and the smug look on the interviewers face is priceless. lmao
Levene was way ahead of the curve...how many avant guitarists have been influenced by Levene's playing since?
Snakehips on drums?
His use of dissonance is incredible
@@davidjameschamberlain part of his brilliance was being 'behind the curve' in a way - his musical hero was Steve Howe of 'prog-dinosaurs' Yes ( for whom he was a roadie/guitar tech)
Superb playing !🎶🎸🥁
Those ending credits OMG!
I didn't realise that PIL could sound as off tune as that.
Love this guy and his past band's!!
“I said nothing for a time, just ran my fingertips along the edge of the human-shaped emptiness that had been left inside me.”
― Haruki Murakami.
which one?
He's really good at playing the guitar badly.
my metalbox has started to rust a little, but still works great to get rid of unwanted "guests"
When I listen to "Metal Box", so do my neighbours. Mine is getting a bit worse for wear but the vinyl is mint. Have a very good day.
For pesky guests try playing it at 33 1/3.
I use to play it in my car on the way to school in the morning and my sister would have a panic attack.
Buy it on cd the deluxe edition plastic box sounds even better and save the vinyl 🤘🏻
I piss off my parents when I play second edition. Always gotta play it full blast XD
I love John Lydon and his art! Simple as that!💘
This is the first time I’ve seen this interview in full and all I can say is it was a total hatchet job!
The Pistols never played Detroit , but Johnny & The boys popped up in town on an awkward Thursday * At a Roller Rink ! THEE most ~ unique ~ show ℹ've Ever seen
"You've all been very naughty" (walks offstage for 20 minutes, near-riot ensues...)
Rotten was correct.
Yes, because he earned millions. Not morally or factually correct, just $.
Totally agree
I wish the performance had segued into Radio 4. I would love to hear that live.
Public Image was just one of those groups that kept us going on. We loved everything about them.
Unique and evocative guitar sound ❤️
Absolutely Brilliant!!!