Geodetic control refers to permanent reference markers placed in the ground and precisely marked, located and documented. These markers provide accurate reference points to support the production of consistent and compatible data collection for surveying and mapping projects.
I dug up God a few hundred feet away from this cabin. The first stop by the geodesic marker was a mill for the silver mine. Sadly the cabin was used for target practice by world war two troops training, and the M2 AP rounds they used are fairly hard hitting.
Thanks for video. Congrats finding this Az history cabin. It’s amazing what’s left of walls how it was made. I wish original picture of it would be great. Is there any other near Tombstone history to visit I hope?
Geodetic Control Point apparently is "permanent reference markers placed in the ground and precisely marked, located and documented. These markers provide accurate reference points to support the production of consistent and compatible data collection for surveying and mapping projects."
And are they now used by BLM?When filing a mining claim blm survey corner markers are used to find boundries .If they have gone to gps it would be much easier to find location markers for sure.
@@mikemarley2389 THE ONES I've seen have the ten digit grid stamped into them. I'm guessing? That they have the grids to the markers written down somewhere where all you have to do is get the grid punched in as a way point into the GPS and follow the arrows to it. 🤷
@@mikebrase5161 I filed a load claim in the 90s and it was not with gps .I had to locate the survey marker .It was where it was supposed to be according to blm maps.So they were accurate.But gps would make it so much easier.Thanks for the reply.Things have changed in the last 20 plus years.Most blm maps showed township and range and one went by that in a geo grid map.
Another great history lesson Dave Makes me want to get back there this fall. After that hike i would have hiked right into the Oriental saloon to have a cold one😅. Thanks again.
A geodetic control point is a marked, survey point established for the purpose of providing geodetic reference for mapping and charting activities and for a wide variety of engineering and scientific applications.
The sign said, “No Firearms”. What country do those clowns live in? This is a wilderness area, you’d better be armed! Didn’t they take an oath to uphold the Constitution? If they did, then they’re violating that oath and are unfit to hold office. They’re no longer eligible to serve and must relinquish all benefits, including retirement. We need to start holding these “officials” responsible for violating their oath.
Geodetic control refers to permanent reference markers placed in the ground and precisely marked, located and documented. These markers provide accurate reference points to support the production of consistent and compatible data collection for surveying and mapping projects.Jun 8, 2023
Hey Dave, you and Scott had quite the hike...but so worth it. Tragic story of the life and history back then...thanks for sharing. The desert scenery is spectacular and can't wait for more of Tombstones wild times. 🌵💥😮🏜
This is the first of your videos that I've seen. It was very interesting and informative. It would have been nice if you had a drone and could have seen the area from the air. It might have shown the layout better and maybe some hard to find features.
From GOOGLE: A geodetic control point is a monumented or otherwise marked, survey point established for the purpose of providing geodetic reference for mapping and charting activities and for a wide variety of engineering and scientific applications.
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures it just looked like portions of the walls are cement with some others adobe. Wonder if the structure remained in use for the next half century or more before being abandoned.
@@mikemarley2389 I am well aware of cement use by the Romans. Cement came into use in the US in the 1830’s but was predominantly in the east coast and industrial buildings until the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. The Southwest used adobe and wood for the most part with some brick.
In case of what? As a gun "enthusiast" myself i see no reason at all for a side arm in that area . It was for BRAVADO only. He is just one of those guys.
The first ruins you came across look like the foundations for a stamp mill. They used it to crush ore. At least from the limited images, it appears so. The cabin remains look like poured concrete in the video. Was it adobe?
If you think you’re going to forge your own path thru the rattler infested brush, have at it. That would also require scaling a fence and leaving your vehicle on the side of Charleston road. Those are all really bad ideas.
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures First of all, I was not judging you, just making an observation. Secondly, I have lived in southeastern Arizona my entire life. I think I'm better qualified in this area than you.
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures Nor can I, it's people like this that ruin it for everyone. I think they picked up the slag from the smelting with a detector. As I did too, but I wasn't greedy enough to break it out to see what value it might have. Little to none I'll bet.
This is really cool bro Arizona history I never heard of this Bexner dude but of course it's a different part of the state and as we know Arizona is a big state. 😀 My guess is it was apaches that raided that place, but don't know for sure. Man from the sound of that place bro there must be some seriously bad juju in that area, guy kills an unarmed sheriff the five guys kill themselves nobody gets the gold where they give it back to both Fargo probably that's insanity, I wouldn't want to own that property.
The Brunckow Cabin takes its place in early Tombstone history. It was actually where the first true Tombstone Mine was sunk. Even though others get the official publicity and credit.
The folks who know/knew where the Brunko cabin REALLY is located are deceased or have chosen not to tell, to prevent as much vandalism as possible. Former Town Historian Ben Traywick frequently fibbed about the location in the articles he wrote. It's been decades since I visited the actual site, so I can't tell if any of the pictures here are legit. I sort of remember the walls being only a foot or two high.
The cabin is actually pretty close to the road, but if you want to get to it you have to walk all the way around…unless you’re willing to walk thru a rattlesnake infested cholla forest to get there.
Geodetic control refers to permanent reference markers placed in the ground and precisely marked, located and documented. These markers provide accurate reference points to support the production of consistent and compatible data collection for surveying and mapping projects.
First time on your channel. Very enjoyable. Thanks!
Welcome!
GREAT vid Dave!
I love Old West history,these historical sites are PURE GOLD.
Yes they are!
Great find love it‼️
That is an old stamp mill. I bet you can find some interesting stuff around the cabin with a metal detector.
Great Vid, The both of you did great.
Glad you think so!
Splendid History Video. Thanks.
A tombstone story of real history where it happened great video Dave!!!👍😎
Thanks 👍
I dug up God a few hundred feet away from this cabin. The first stop by the geodesic marker was a mill for the silver mine. Sadly the cabin was used for target practice by world war two troops training, and the M2 AP rounds they used are fairly hard hitting.
makes some of those holes make more sense then just black powder an lead haha RIP to the cabin
@@Yakubmeta-son331 Ya that ole M2 AP could go through 4" of concrete and 1/2" of steel. It had a tungsten core.
Cool adventure and story. Thanks for taking us along. Stay safe!
Thanks, you too!
Now rhats the kind of az history i like learning anout
Great video! always love a great story connected to these historical sites. Hope you guys are doing well!!
Thanks! You too!
Awesome video Dave, thanks for this great story👍🤠🇺🇸. I love the old west history
Thanks for watching!
Great history there thank you.
Thanks for video. Congrats finding this Az history cabin. It’s amazing what’s left of walls how it was made. I wish original picture of it would be great. Is there any other near Tombstone history to visit I hope?
Interesting history , great walk around .
Geodetic Control Point apparently is "permanent reference markers placed in the ground and precisely marked, located and documented. These markers provide accurate reference points to support the production of consistent and compatible data collection for surveying and mapping projects."
Seems legit. 🤣
@@Desert.Sky.Adventuresit is.
And are they now used by BLM?When filing a mining claim blm survey corner markers are used to find boundries .If they have gone to gps it would be much easier to find location markers for sure.
@@mikemarley2389 THE ONES I've seen have the ten digit grid stamped into them. I'm guessing? That they have the grids to the markers written down somewhere where all you have to do is get the grid punched in as a way point into the GPS and follow the arrows to it. 🤷
@@mikebrase5161 I filed a load claim in the 90s and it was not with gps .I had to locate the survey marker .It was where it was supposed to be according to blm maps.So they were accurate.But gps would make it so much easier.Thanks for the reply.Things have changed in the last 20 plus years.Most blm maps showed township and range and one went by that in a geo grid map.
Another great history lesson Dave Makes me want to get back there this fall. After that hike i would have hiked right into the Oriental saloon to have a cold one😅. Thanks again.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hard times for sure. The movie "The Ballad of Buster Scruggs" is a good example of what life was like in those days.
Great movie!
Ok.
thanks for bringing us this interesting and bazaar part of history , great blog Dave . look forward to the next adventure ! STAY COOL LOL !
More to come!
I just love the content on this channel!
Hugs from Brazil
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Awesome! Thank you!
The cabin would have been a mud adobe originally, that Portland cement would be much later.
A geodetic control point is a marked, survey point established for the purpose of providing geodetic reference for mapping and
charting activities and for a wide variety of engineering and scientific applications.
There are a lot of mine shafts around there, be careful if you go exploring.
The sign said, “No Firearms”. What country do those clowns live in? This is a wilderness area, you’d better be armed! Didn’t they take an oath to uphold the Constitution? If they did, then they’re violating that oath and are unfit to hold office. They’re no longer eligible to serve and must relinquish all benefits, including retirement. We need to start holding these “officials” responsible for violating their oath.
Geodetic control refers to permanent reference markers placed in the ground and precisely marked, located and documented. These markers provide accurate reference points to support the production of consistent and compatible data collection for surveying and mapping projects.Jun 8, 2023
Hey Dave, you and Scott had quite the hike...but so worth it. Tragic story of the life and history back then...thanks for sharing. The desert scenery is spectacular and can't wait for more of Tombstones wild times. 🌵💥😮🏜
Thanks Mercedith!
When I visited in 1996 the fireplace was still there. Pretty sure I have a photo somewhere.
So much great history around there! Glad you found it. (That's not Wyatt 😉)
It sure is!
This is the first of your videos that I've seen. It was very interesting and informative.
It would have been nice if you had a drone and could have seen the area from the air. It might have shown the layout better and maybe some hard to find features.
From GOOGLE: A geodetic control point is a monumented or otherwise marked, survey point established for the purpose of providing geodetic reference for mapping and charting activities and for a wide variety of engineering and scientific applications.
Great video. Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
There was more foundation there than I expected to see. About the same that was there 22 years ago.
That structure fort looked kinda like oar boxes
Wow, sounds like place to avoid! John P.
I am a former resident.....it an ore processing sight.
Is that the actual cabin? Highly unusual for cement to have been used for homes in the Southwest in 1860.
The cabin was made of adobe. The first ruin we came to was concrete. That’s not the cabin though.
Romans used it over two thousand years ago hombre.
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures it just looked like portions of the walls are cement with some others adobe. Wonder if the structure remained in use for the next half century or more before being abandoned.
@@mikemarley2389 I am well aware of cement use by the Romans. Cement came into use in the US in the 1830’s but was predominantly in the east coast and industrial buildings until the late 1800’s and early 1900’s. The Southwest used adobe and wood for the most part with some brick.
@@jamespmorganjr4276 well excuse me!
Thanks Guys👍🤠
Our pleasure!
I’m glad to see you have a firearm with you
In case of what? As a gun "enthusiast" myself i see no reason at all for a side arm in that area . It was for BRAVADO only. He is just one of those guys.
@@blackhd92 S.t.f.u You sound like a liberal
Old mining mill is the concrete foundations that you first stopped at
The first ruins you came across look like the foundations for a stamp mill. They used it to crush ore. At least from the limited images, it appears so.
The cabin remains look like poured concrete in the video. Was it adobe?
Yes it was adobe.
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures Thanks. I just discovered your videos, very interesting!
I’m glad you enjoy them! Thanks for watching!
Maybe some short stilts would be a good way to get around there?
Not a bad idea.
FINALLY! The lost is now found! Congratulations!
Being a paranormal investigator, I would love to visit this site, overnight if possible.
@@saminaneenthey said paranormal? Can you read?
WTF
@@saminaneen ohhhhh, so you’re crazy. My bad, thought I was chatting with someone coherent 😂
Another good one!
Glad you think so!
the first place you showed was a stamp mill
That seems to be the general consensus. Wish I could find an old photo but no such luck.
According to google maps, that site is literally 700 feet from E Charleston Road. You took the scenic route.
If you think you’re going to forge your own path thru the rattler infested brush, have at it. That would also require scaling a fence and leaving your vehicle on the side of Charleston road. Those are all really bad ideas.
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures First of all, I was not judging you, just making an observation. Secondly, I have lived in southeastern Arizona my entire life. I think I'm better qualified in this area than you.
Then you should have known why we walked the way we did. 🤷🏼♂️
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures In July, stupidity.
We walked there from Charleston road in 1996. Was easy to find just looking from the road. No google map back then 😊
They had concrete in the 1850s southwest?
Well, according to google concrete dates back to 5500 BC. However the cabin is made of adobe.
Can I ask why you guys didn’t just drive closer to it on the road that’s right there?
You can’t drive to it. And even if you could, it’s not legal to drive on that land.
Probably the cabin was a refining site for a mine.
Rugged but beautiful country. ❤ history 👍
Someone broke out he fire place around 2010, looks like they took smashed it up later on.
I can’t understand why someone would do that. 😞
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures Nor can I, it's people like this that ruin it for everyone. I think they picked up the slag from the smelting with a detector. As I did too, but I wasn't greedy enough to break it out to see what value it might have. Little to none I'll bet.
Have you made the trek to the Clanton ruins yet?
Not yet but it’s on the list.
@@Desert.Sky.Adventures we made the hike a few years ago and it was lovely.
Would be interesting to metal detect the walls
Would be fun with two weeks and a metal detector...
Neato mosquitoe!
What kind of pistol did your friend have?
45
Mapping references placed by the government
Take a gallon of water at least not a pint.
This is really cool bro Arizona history I never heard of this Bexner dude but of course it's a different part of the state and as we know Arizona is a big state. 😀 My guess is it was apaches that raided that place, but don't know for sure. Man from the sound of that place bro there must be some seriously bad juju in that area, guy kills an unarmed sheriff the five guys kill themselves nobody gets the gold where they give it back to both Fargo probably that's insanity, I wouldn't want to own that property.
SURVEY POINT
Couldn’t you just take a 4x4 out there? I didn’t see anything that my FJ couldn’t handle.
Not legally. They have signs posted.
The Brunckow Cabin takes its place in early Tombstone history. It was actually where the first true Tombstone Mine was sunk. Even though others get the official publicity and credit.
That’s right. Brunckow opened his mine well before Schieffelin did.
Cats claw, not cholla. Cholla is a cactus.
Cool video interesting story,think the same thing happened at dragoon springs. Check out that story. ❤tombstone a.t.
Thank you, I will
Get the number off of the marker.
Thats Arizona? What a God awful place to die.
Chollas are cacti.
Looked more like cat claw.
The foundation looks like an old stamping mill.
Maybe they just gave them bodies to rhe coyotes
The folks who know/knew where the Brunko cabin REALLY is located are deceased or have chosen not to tell, to prevent as much vandalism as possible. Former Town Historian Ben Traywick frequently fibbed about the location in the articles he wrote. It's been decades since I visited the actual site, so I can't tell if any of the pictures here are legit. I sort of remember the walls being only a foot or two high.
They’re legit. This was the correct location.
Trouble finding it? It's literally in Google maps. We Googled it and got right to it. 🤔
If you actually watch the video, you’ll see the issue wasn’t finding it. We found it in last weeks video too. 😉
aliens built it?
Sign said keep out...but guess you cannot read...
Nothing said keep out at all. What video you watching??
Oh them there's definitely bullet holes.A metal detector would find tons of bullets and most likely some gold at that site.
I thought this was all remote til I saw cars zooming by in the distance. 😆
That is Charleston Road that heads to Sierra Vista.
The cabin is actually pretty close to the road, but if you want to get to it you have to walk all the way around…unless you’re willing to walk thru a rattlesnake infested cholla forest to get there.
Rattlers, cholla, no problemo…115 degrees? Big problem!
Wyatt Earp was an ah.