I thought it was until it started to spin the prop. That's when I realized that it was a large electric R/C. But yeah, Just the power system for something that large cost more than I want to spend. Large lipo batteries are insane $$
Beautiful frame work with the sun showing through the wings. Nice model, great representation of the full scale aircraft, including its flight characteristics. Those were some brave young men in the early days of flight and more so flying into battle.
G'day, Look closer, Einstein...; in the Clip Description it says, "Aeromodelsimile..." Or something like that, it was fairly obviously "Scale Aeromodelling...", but written in the language of the Frog-Eaters... Such is Life, Have a good one... ;-p Ciao !
@@WarblesOnALot So is that how you identify videos is go to the description or the title above? Still poorly written, RC is the identifier. Einstein mutch?
Well, that turned out to be exactly what looked like, a crash waiting to happen. It was, however, a stunning demonstration of early aircraft design combined with a fatal misapplication of aircraft controls. But to be fair to the aircraft design, there are few modern aircraft that could have survived such an outstanding example of "Pilot Error"
@@SR-gs8zo Thanks, I just watched this again and noticed on takeoff the outer wing sections appear to have significant 'wash-in' rather then washout, effectively leaving the outer wing sections at a higher angle of incidence and attack, making the aircraft more susceptible to a wingtip stall. That being it looked like he was maintaining enough foward airspeed to generate enough lift to just about remain airborne if he hadn't cobbed in a lot of left rudder and right aileron. Basically, most certified aircraft would have done the same, and at even a higher forward airspeed and would have likely been fatal. The little contraption did pretty well considering the design and what the pilot did. I'd feel comfortable flying it, just not so foolishly.
Firstly, I thought it was a real plane until after the crash... but I was watching the flight control inputs along with the apparent airspeed and I knew this wasn't going to end well.
My brother and I used to fly gliders, slope soaring. With good lift you could just hover or just slightly move at leisure. We always called that kind of lift a "kite flying day". After we got into power planes he seemed to think that a plane would still fly without moving forward to produce lift and he crashed more than one with that kind of hockey stop turn.
@@jackoneil3933 I think this is an optical illusion. In theboard part of the lower wing is cut out to afford the pliot some downaward vision. However there appears to be no differntail aileron in evidence. This is mandatory on such a subject. Furthermore I did not see any use of the rudder. Again, on an aircraft of this kind the use of rudder is mandatory. In the sequence the model enter an incipient spin at low level. You will see that as the pilot applies right aileron, the model yaws to the left. This is classic adverse yaw caused by the down going aileron entering higher pressure air than the upgoing aileron. Whilst builing, differntil aireron can be arranged to make the upgoing aileron travel further than the downgoing aileron. This is use on both full size and models frequently. In a turn rudder should be used in the same direction as aileron to acheive a balanced turn, In the event of an incipient spin beginning, the pilot must centre the ailerons and unload the elevator quickly, whilst applying opposite rudder. Then the nose must be lowered to increase airspeed. Many pilots have died and many models have crashed by not recognising, and dealing with this problem in time.
What a huge shame, I didn't realise the scale until the recovery crew went in, I had a similar crash with my Dr1 but it survived to fly another day, on the other hand my DH2 wouldn't be so lucky, beautiful models to see in the air that recreate an era of brave young men and the stupidity of war, cheers
The original DH-2 was called "the spinning incinterator" by it's pilots because it would spin very easily and spin recovery was impossible for most. It was also prone to in-flight fires.
"Spinning incinerator " due to tendency of a engine cylinder removing itself from casing , sometimes slicing tail boom. Originally the DH2 had controls rigged to counter torque of engine . Later changed to if engine was off. Maj Hawker took one up and deliberately did spins to the relief of his pilots.
@@highway2run you are right! He was a superior pilot!! Had he lived,, no telling how Much different things would’ve been! He was a superb leader, innovator!! Rest In Peace!!
@@highway2run Lanoe Hawker figured out how to get the DH-2 out of a spin by somehow forcing it into an inverted position to recover. Normal spin recovery procedures did not work on the DH-2.
Watch the rudder. He had full left rudder to try to tighten the turn while in a left bank and only just above the stall. That's called bottom rudder and it has killed an enormous number of pilots during the last two slow turns to a landing, including many, many flight instructors with thousands of hours of flying time.
@@shelbyseelbach9568 Makes little or no difference, wherever the 'pilot' was located, they became clumsy with the rudder inputs & stalled the port wing.
Amazed anyone with a grasp of WW1 history, or aircraft, thought this was real. Esp as clearly says "aéromodélisme" just below the heading. Personally I commend the builder on taking on such a risky project, the real ones were tricky enough to fly, and contrary to the armchair experts or those "pilots" that can "fly" via video games, flying r-c aircraft in the flesh is rarely easy, certainly not scale models like these, in some ways it's harder than being up there yourself. Great vid, sad ending, thanks.
LEFT Rudder and RIGHT Aileron at slow airspeeds? That's asking for trouble. The Rudder is way more effective at slow airspeeds than the Ailerons. The aileron input to the right made the left wing stall. Classic Stall Spin. Needs to learn about proper control inputs.
like many, clicked on to see what happened to a rarity. Soon as it took off I thought "MAN they overpowered that one" then realized it was RC. And then he went around flying it like it was a throw away arf, one mistake from, whoop there it is. Shame.
What a shame, such a beautiful model. On the upside, based on photos I have seen of WWI crashes, it's sad demise looked very authentic. I am sorry for your loss..
that was a beautiful flying plane. i don't know much about aviation but was it too much of a banked turn at low altitude and could it have recovered from a higher altitude? it's a huge model.
looked to have plenty of power actually. it was porpoising the whole time and it looked , to be honest, the the pilot didnt have a clue. i know it was RC. several times the left turns looked far too aggressive, and the wind was clearly blowing right to left, which made it worse. in the end it was going too slow and pulled too aggressively into the final left hand turn, porpoised upwards and tip stalled. the throttle control of the pilot was poor, evidenced by the brutally vertical take off, and then too slow in its second and third passes. it very well couldve been tail heavy. either way, the RC pilot's control was quite poor and didnt recognise the situation..he shouldve climbed under full throttle, trimmed out and taken his time to gain some control, then as soon as he did, take it away from the field and come in shallow and fast and landed it.
Hello duchateau hubert, would it possible to contact you regarding one of your videos i.e via mail? I would love to discuss a permission to use it if this is possible. Greetings!
Do such models have a proper modelled engine (as opposed to a model engine - if you know what I mean)? It sounds sort of authentic as opposed to model like.
Looks like there was a fairly strong breeze (moving right to left in the video), and on his last turn into the wind, his ground speed had dropped (as well as his airspeed into the breeze); when he turned downwind, his effective airspeed dropped below stall. Certainly a stall spin, initiated when he turned downwind with an already marginal airspeed. I've flown quite a few large scale RC planes, they are twitchy to fly in wind because of all the wing area and relatively light wing loading. It was a beautiful R/C plane, the giveaway to me, at the beginning of the video, was the engine start. These plans had no automatic starter, they had to be hand propped to start.
Good to see that there were so many of those in the crowd who showed real concern for the RC pilot by rushing over to lend some RC first aid to him. I wonder if he survived. 😏
While my eyes were popping from the accident and my heart was pounding, with no one running to help, I heard the announcer say "Non... Non-non... et non!" looking like Charles Aznavour with the music playing. My brain went into knots "Is this how the French react to the death of a pilot??"
Cross control at 1:50 Left rudder and right aileron confused the aircraft so it fell out of the sky. Very realistic crash. When the nose is high in a turn bad things can happen because it's basically a slip and lots of drag builds up. WWI aircraft just prefer rudder for flight and the ailerons are just for trimming. Generally the speed is so slow that ailerons are not very effective. Can you imagine how a new pilot felt with just 10 or 15 hours flight time in such a contraption? He'd never even seen an airplane before and now he was getting shot at in something that he couldn't even control. A sitting duck.
The last turn took him below flight speed and the plane stalled. It didn’t look very stable during the whole flight to me. Too much drag and not enough thrust to overcome the drag.
wileecohagen I think that it took the left wing into a stall. Once you start turning into the lower wing the higher wing increases in lift and the lower wing stalls. Then the right wing, in this case, has significant lift over the stalled left wing, Stall, spin, die. Even in large scale R/C models.
wileecohagen no problem my friend! Just my brain walking through the same process. I’m a pilot and a model pilot as well. During flight training it’s drilled into us about how to avoid this scenario.
Classic base-to-final stall spin. You can see how much rudder he was using. The bigger these models get, the more they fly (and crash) like real airplanes.
Thanks guys! I’ve been a life long enthusiast. My 8th grade science teacher was a saber pilot in Korea. He was shot down over North Korea where a family hid him until he could walk well enough to get himself across the border. But two broken legs meant he would never fly military aircraft again. He taught handful of us what amounted to ground school. But I never had the money to get my certificate. 50 years later I love all kinds of flight. Thanks for your input gentlemen, you’re never too old to learn!
What a crying shame - that was a beautiful model. I actually had to look at the comments to realise it was in fact a model, it looked so real. Let's hope he could rebuild it.
Ok, needs RC in title, but it looked odd. The fuselage (bit that wasn't wings or engine) was too deep. Ok, I thought after figuring that this was just a model, maybe it was made deep enough to house the receiver and stuff - but then it becomes apparent (after the crash, with the recovery crew alongside) that it was actually fairly large, so why couldn't it have been made a replica and not a representation?
I thought it was a real aircraft. But he got off the ground so quickly . I thought there must be one hell of a head wind , and was it safe to fly in such conditions . It is a beautiful model and I'm sorry it went in !
He didn't release left rudder. I had a friend with a full sized Neuport 12. His plane went into a controlled spiral turn and put it in the ground. The entire rudder is movable unlike modern plane that have vertical stabilizers along with the rudder. The tendency for modern planes is to straighten up. The old planes tail will move in the direction the rudder is pointed, no matter what the rest of the plane wants to do!
Ok..., what would I'd like to do now? Oh..., a leftward spin. Here we go...: right stick cross controls (roll input opposite to rudder input) and aft stick. OOps! I've forgot I'm only at 30 meters!
At first I thought "why would TH-cam allow this video to be shown, the pilot was either seriously injured or killed outright." Then I saw the gentlemen collecting the debris and knew it was a large-scale RC plane. Money and time lost in the destruction of this plane is far better than the loss of a real pilot.
At exactly 1:54 you can see the mistake made by the pilot, a very common one made by many RC and General Aviation pilots alike. Cross controlling with rudder deflection into the turn and ailerons deflected away from the turn creating a skid condition that combined with a stall, lead to a tail spin.
Did anyone else note that he had full left rudder applied all the way into a left hand death spiral. Once stalled like that, the rudder is the only control that has a chance of picking up a wing. A sad loss to be sure..
I love airshow demo's but this was clearly a model! I hate with passion the guy on the microphone who wouldn't shut his mouth with the flight demonstration! Then after the crash had the gall to continue blabering! The music was also not appreciated! Very sorry for the loss of such a beautiful model. 😞
The commenter says at 01:25: » this plane is from the debuts of combat aviation, the centering is hard, it easily goes into a spin (...) it killed many of it’s pilots but through time, we’ll get used, we’ll familiarize (...) » And then at 01:56: » it’s a nimble aircraft...attention oooooh no no and no! ....this is truly a pity and, you’ll forgive me the expression but: shit ». :D
I see all kinds of crazy things stated here like the air is thinner over the wings. My observations as a flight instructor and a RC pilot. In slow flight you are always feeding in opposite aileron to keep the plane from over banking. As long as you are coordinated with your rudder nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately with models there is no input to the pilot to see if you are indeed coordinated. Second he was flying very slow as was evident by the nose up attitude, the need to feed in opposite aileron to maintain bank. The end result was he got to slow, he was skidding the turn and then it stalled. As soon as it started rolling he should have added opposite rudder, pitched down, neutralized the ailerons and added full power. At the height he was at a recover from an incipient spin was impossible and a beautiful model was destroyed.
The model flew in waves, which means it was tail-heavy. The center of gravity was too far back. You can see exactly how the model tilts over the wing and can no longer be intercepted from the uncontrolled spiral flight. The model pilot should have recognized this.
Worth noting at 1:56~58 full right aileron, but left rudder?! With modern radio control, it is foolish to not 'mix' rudder and aileron for slow aircraft.
Go fly full scale sailplanes for a bit. I used to have the same mentality, until I started flying sailplanes. I got rid of the mixes and learnt to use the rudder, my flying in all areas has improved greatly!
A classic stall/spin departure from controlled flight. It doesn't matter the scale, physics are physics and once a plane reaches the critical angle of attack, it's gonna stall in.
I think it was a lack of correctness from you, not telling, in first place, and explicitly, THAT IT WAS AN R/C MODEL, not a real plane. Let's be honest.!!!
Yes, they are supposed to land on their wheels. I'll break it down so it's easy to understand. When the plane stops flying, if it is on the ground, sitting on it's wheels, that was a landing. If the plane is still in the air when it stops flying, well that's going to be a big problem. Because soon it's going to be sitting on the ground, on it's nose. That's not a landing. We call that a crash.
Le pilote est heureusement indemne. Légèrement perturbé par la violence du crash, il a été pris en charge par les sapeurs pompiers et directement emmené à l'hôpital le plus proche. Son pronostic vital n'est pas engagé. En revanche, on ne sait pas encore à ce jour, s'il pourra reprendre un jour le pilotage. La famille reste au chevet de son proche et remercie toutes les personnes présentes sur les lieux pour leur rapide intervention
With a good wind, lots of rc pilots make the mistake of flying too slowly on a downwind. From a position on the ground, visually, pilots get fooled. With full deflection of controls things just get worse.
Even an expensive RC crash sounds alright when narrated in very nice, smooth French.
Am I the only one who thought this was a 'real' British WWI airplane? I'm glad only someone's wallet was hurt and not an actual human.
I thought it was until it started to spin the prop. That's when I realized that it was a large electric R/C. But yeah, Just the power system for something that large cost more than I want to spend. Large lipo batteries are insane $$
Looked full-scale to me.
I feel like an idiot now
Nesus Trejo Not. Just the builder's attention to detail was excellent.
I did too till I seen the French flag on the tail.
Beautiful frame work with the sun showing through the wings. Nice model, great representation of the full scale aircraft, including its flight characteristics. Those were some brave young men in the early days of flight and more so flying into battle.
Needs to have RC in the title. Misleading.
I picked up on that after seeing that the pilot never moved. Then that announcer, lol... "oh, no no...."
i had the sound down and I really thought it was dreal. The movement made me think wow those things are so sensitive they look like RC miniatures
G'day,
Look closer, Einstein...; in the Clip Description it says,
"Aeromodelsimile..."
Or something like that, it was fairly obviously "Scale Aeromodelling...", but written in the language of the Frog-Eaters...
Such is Life,
Have a good one...
;-p
Ciao !
@@WarblesOnALot So is that how you identify videos is go to the description or the title above? Still poorly written, RC is the identifier. Einstein mutch?
@@WarblesOnALot
Merci for the quite elegant "frog eaters". Could you spell French properly please ? : aéromodèlisme. I AM French.
Well, that turned out to be exactly what looked like, a crash waiting to happen. It was, however, a stunning demonstration of early aircraft design combined with a fatal misapplication of aircraft controls. But to be fair to the aircraft design, there are few modern aircraft that could have survived such an outstanding example of "Pilot Error"
@@SR-gs8zo Thanks, I just watched this again and noticed on takeoff the outer wing sections appear to have significant 'wash-in' rather then washout, effectively leaving the outer wing sections at a higher angle of incidence and attack, making the aircraft more susceptible to a wingtip stall. That being it looked like he was maintaining enough foward airspeed to generate enough lift to just about remain airborne if he hadn't cobbed in a lot of left rudder and right aileron. Basically, most certified aircraft would have done the same, and at even a higher forward airspeed and would have likely been fatal. The little contraption did pretty well considering the design and what the pilot did. I'd feel comfortable flying it, just not so foolishly.
Firstly, I thought it was a real plane until after the crash... but I was watching the flight control inputs along with the apparent airspeed and I knew this wasn't going to end well.
My brother and I used to fly gliders, slope soaring. With good lift you could just hover or just slightly move at leisure. We always called that kind of lift a "kite flying day". After we got into power planes he seemed to think that a plane would still fly without moving forward to produce lift and he crashed more than one with that kind of hockey stop turn.
@@jackoneil3933 I think this is an optical illusion. In theboard part of the lower wing is cut out to afford the pliot some downaward vision. However there appears to be no differntail aileron in evidence. This is mandatory on such a subject. Furthermore I did not see any use of the rudder. Again, on an aircraft of this kind the use of rudder is mandatory. In the sequence the model enter an incipient spin at low level. You will see that as the pilot applies right aileron, the model yaws to the left. This is classic adverse yaw caused by the down going aileron entering higher pressure air than the upgoing aileron. Whilst builing, differntil aireron can be arranged to make the upgoing aileron travel further than the downgoing aileron. This is use on both full size and models frequently. In a turn rudder should be used in the same direction as aileron to acheive a balanced turn, In the event of an incipient spin beginning, the pilot must centre the ailerons and unload the elevator quickly, whilst applying opposite rudder. Then the nose must be lowered to increase airspeed. Many pilots have died and many models have crashed by not recognising, and dealing with this problem in time.
It looked like possibly CG issues as well...
What a huge shame, I didn't realise the scale until the recovery crew went in, I had a similar crash with my Dr1 but it survived to fly another day, on the other hand my DH2 wouldn't be so lucky, beautiful models to see in the air that recreate an era of brave young men and the stupidity of war, cheers
Superbe machine, vraiment dommage. Merci en tous cas pour les deux minutes d'évasion.
The original DH-2 was called "the spinning incinterator" by it's pilots because it would spin very easily and spin recovery was impossible for most. It was also prone to in-flight fires.
"Spinning incinerator " due to tendency of a engine cylinder removing itself from casing , sometimes slicing tail boom. Originally the DH2 had controls rigged to counter torque of engine . Later changed to if engine was off. Maj Hawker took one up and deliberately did spins to the relief of his pilots.
@@highway2run you are right! He was a superior pilot!! Had he lived,, no telling how Much different things would’ve been! He was a superb leader, innovator!! Rest In Peace!!
I was convinced i misheard that. Thank you.
@@highway2run
Lanoe Hawker figured out how to get the DH-2 out of a spin by somehow forcing it into an inverted position to recover. Normal spin recovery procedures did not work on the DH-2.
Watch the rudder. He had full left rudder to try to tighten the turn while in a left bank and only just above the stall.
That's called bottom rudder and it has killed an enormous number of pilots during the last two slow turns to a landing, including many, many flight instructors with thousands of hours of flying time.
LOL. You do realize this is an RC plane?
@@shelbyseelbach9568 Makes little or no difference, wherever the 'pilot' was located, they became clumsy with the rudder inputs & stalled the port wing.
@@loddude5706 Pretty sure it was never going to kill this pilot. So, ya, it ABSOLUTELY makes a difference.
@@shelbyseelbach9568It might very well be an rc plane, but it still suffers the same tendendecis a real plane would.
@@federicoparea2036 Not when it comes to killing pilots it doesn't, my confused friend.
Left rudder applied too aggressively stalled the left wing because of the low airspeed. You can see the aeroplane yaw left before the wing drop.
And he was applying right aileron, which aggravated it even more.
@@whawaii this
Excellent call tho obviously a very unstable creature. Over correction is often such a factor in this mishaps.
Yep, clearly.
Must admit I didn't realize it was radio controlled till second look. Whoops!
🎵 🎶 “They go up, diddly up,up and they go down, diddly down, down”. 🎵 🎶. From Magnificent Men and their Flying Machines.
One of my favourite films of all time 👍
Flown by Emilio Ponticcelli no doubt.
Stalled in. Looked unstable from the T.O., almost as if the CG was too far back. Always close to stalling...
You mean CG too far forward, tail heavy and unstable.
@@rfloyd90 Bit late to the party, but...CoG too far back equals tail heavy
Amazed anyone with a grasp of WW1 history, or aircraft, thought this was real. Esp as clearly says "aéromodélisme" just below the heading. Personally I commend the builder on taking on such a risky project, the real ones were tricky enough to fly, and contrary to the armchair experts or those "pilots" that can "fly" via video games, flying r-c aircraft in the flesh is rarely easy, certainly not scale models like these, in some ways it's harder than being up there yourself. Great vid, sad ending, thanks.
LEFT Rudder and RIGHT Aileron at slow airspeeds? That's asking for trouble. The Rudder is way more effective at slow airspeeds than the Ailerons. The aileron input to the right made the left wing stall. Classic Stall Spin. Needs to learn about proper control inputs.
How did this thing stay in the air for 100 seconds?
Air pressure difference and thrust? Or magic!
Did the dwarf get injured in the crash. It's nice to see little people can have planes now. It did look a little windy for that plane.
like many, clicked on to see what happened to a rarity. Soon as it took off I thought "MAN they overpowered that one" then realized it was RC. And then he went around flying it like it was a throw away arf, one mistake from, whoop there it is. Shame.
"that dwarf" as you call him was one of the bravest dwarfs that ever existed
What a shame, such a beautiful model. On the upside, based on photos I have seen of WWI crashes, it's sad demise looked very authentic. I am sorry for your loss..
It actually took me a minute to figure out it was a RC but since it crashed I’m glad it was . Thing is HUGE
looked a nice Model ..kit or plans ???
that was a beautiful flying plane. i don't know much about aviation but was it too much of a banked turn at low altitude and could it have recovered from a higher altitude? it's a huge model.
that was the frenchest reaction ever
I thought it's angle of climb from take off was too steep to be an actual full scale aircraft but otherwise it would have fooled me.
knew that was coming just watching it...typical stall spin. Too slow Bud!
Wow I thought that was a full sized plane!!!
Thanks god it was a radio controlled airplane. However it was a wonderful Aircraft. I thought it was an original.
Beautiful plane. Hope it’s mendable
Dude hahaha I thought.... Hee death?... Well that's a relief.
Looked tail heavy to me, also horrendously under powered.
Like most of the airplane of that era.
You need to learn the difference between trim... and tail heavy.
looked to have plenty of power actually. it was porpoising the whole time and it looked , to be honest, the the pilot didnt have a clue. i know it was RC. several times the left turns looked far too aggressive, and the wind was clearly blowing right to left, which made it worse. in the end it was going too slow and pulled too aggressively into the final left hand turn, porpoised upwards and tip stalled. the throttle control of the pilot was poor, evidenced by the brutally vertical take off, and then too slow in its second and third passes. it very well couldve been tail heavy. either way, the RC pilot's control was quite poor and didnt recognise the situation..he shouldve climbed under full throttle, trimmed out and taken his time to gain some control, then as soon as he did, take it away from the field and come in shallow and fast and landed it.
.....and you need to learn some social skills matey.
No thanks but fuckyou very much dumb ass.
Hello duchateau hubert, would it possible to contact you regarding one of your videos i.e via mail? I would love to discuss a permission to use it if this is possible. Greetings!
Do such models have a proper modelled engine (as opposed to a model engine - if you know what I mean)? It sounds sort of authentic as opposed to model like.
Il fallait en avoir une sacrée paire pour voler la dedans !. Chapeau . je parle bien sûr des véritables coucous de l'époque.
Hahahaha this super chill music and the Moderator.
I think he got some good France whine
And the Pilot walked away unharmed from that one, that'' all that matters, fantastic scale model
Thought the take off was short. Thought it was a real plane. To bad for the crash but whoever built it did a great job. Very realistic!
Name of song in background please thanks in advance
at about 1:00 it's La Vie En Rose -- Louis Armstrong's recording (th-cam.com/video/9n-hyA2-FDg/w-d-xo.html)
Despite the fact that the RAF puts targets on their wings, they have quite an illustrious history.
Looks like there was a fairly strong breeze (moving right to left in the video), and on his last turn into the wind, his ground speed had dropped (as well as his airspeed into the breeze); when he turned downwind, his effective airspeed dropped below stall. Certainly a stall spin, initiated when he turned downwind with an already marginal airspeed. I've flown quite a few large scale RC planes, they are twitchy to fly in wind because of all the wing area and relatively light wing loading.
It was a beautiful R/C plane, the giveaway to me, at the beginning of the video, was the engine start. These plans had no automatic starter, they had to be hand propped to start.
1:57 announcer 'Oooo NON NON NON!'
why does the announcer sound like hes scatting at a poetry reading, with a jazz trumpet
Good to see that there were so many of those in the crowd who showed real concern for the RC pilot by rushing over to lend some RC first aid to him. I wonder if he survived. 😏
Il n'y avait pas de pilote dans l'aéronef. ( modèle réduit ) .
@claudelannois8821 yes, I know. That's why I said rc (remote control) pilot. I was being sarcastic. I used emoji to show I wasn't being serious.
My old girlfriend was a comedian, and a helicopter wing-walker. She was very funny, a real cut-up.
Confucius say, woman who fly upside down in aircraft, bound to have crack up.
While my eyes were popping from the accident and my heart was pounding, with no one running to help, I heard the announcer say "Non... Non-non... et non!" looking like Charles Aznavour with the music playing. My brain went into knots "Is this how the French react to the death of a pilot??"
Cross control at 1:50 Left rudder and right aileron confused the aircraft so it fell out of the sky. Very realistic crash. When the nose is high in a turn bad things can happen because it's basically a slip and lots of drag builds up. WWI aircraft just prefer rudder for flight and the ailerons are just for trimming. Generally the speed is so slow that ailerons are not very effective. Can you imagine how a new pilot felt with just 10 or 15 hours flight time in such a contraption? He'd never even seen an airplane before and now he was getting shot at in something that he couldn't even control. A sitting duck.
It's an impressive RC model, looked abit unstable though, maybe too light and under powered as it was getting blown around alot in the light winds.
in fact, the original DH.2 was just like that
The last turn took him below flight speed and the plane stalled. It didn’t look very stable during the whole flight to me. Too much drag and not enough thrust to overcome the drag.
wileecohagen I think that it took the left wing into a stall. Once you start turning into the lower wing the higher wing increases in lift and the lower wing stalls. Then the right wing, in this case, has significant lift over the stalled left wing, Stall, spin, die. Even in large scale R/C models.
Heeder777, that’s what I was. Trying to say, but much less effectively. Thanks!
wileecohagen no problem my friend! Just my brain walking through the same process. I’m a pilot and a model pilot as well. During flight training it’s drilled into us about how to avoid this scenario.
Classic base-to-final stall spin. You can see how much rudder he was using. The bigger these models get, the more they fly (and crash) like real airplanes.
Thanks guys! I’ve been a life long enthusiast. My 8th grade science teacher was a saber pilot in Korea. He was shot down over North Korea where a family hid him until he could walk well enough to get himself across the border. But two broken legs meant he would never fly military aircraft again. He taught handful of us what amounted to ground school. But I never had the money to get my certificate. 50 years later I love all kinds of flight. Thanks for your input gentlemen, you’re never too old to learn!
That thing looks as stable as a battleship made out of Reynolds wrap.
That’s a heckuva way to “Begin the Beugin.” 🎶🎵
What a crying shame - that was a beautiful model. I actually had to look at the comments to realise it was in fact a model, it looked so real. Let's hope he could rebuild it.
Ayy.. such a lovely model. Best of luck rebuilding it.
Ok, needs RC in title, but it looked odd. The fuselage (bit that wasn't wings or engine) was too deep. Ok, I thought after figuring that this was just a model, maybe it was made deep enough to house the receiver and stuff - but then it becomes apparent (after the crash, with the recovery crew alongside) that it was actually fairly large, so why couldn't it have been made a replica and not a representation?
I thought it was a real aircraft. But he got off the ground so quickly . I thought there must be one hell of a head wind , and was it safe to fly in such conditions . It is a beautiful model and I'm sorry it went in !
What a terrible crash. May their souls RIP.
I met a lot of great builders over the years that should stick to flying foamies.
He didn't release left rudder. I had a friend with a full sized Neuport 12. His plane went into a controlled spiral turn and put it in the ground. The entire rudder is movable unlike modern plane that have vertical stabilizers along with the rudder. The tendency for modern planes is to straighten up. The old planes tail will move in the direction the rudder is pointed, no matter what the rest of the plane wants to do!
Ok..., what would I'd like to do now? Oh..., a leftward spin. Here we go...: right stick cross controls (roll input opposite to rudder input) and aft stick. OOps! I've forgot I'm only at 30 meters!
How many people were killed in the crash?
Er war zu langsam. Irgendwann kommt der Strömungsabriss 😢
At first I thought "why would TH-cam allow this video to be shown, the pilot was either seriously injured or killed outright." Then I saw the gentlemen collecting the debris and knew it was a large-scale RC plane. Money and time lost in the destruction of this plane is far better than the loss of a real pilot.
Glad to know it was radio controlled and no pilot was injured.
Never SKID the airplane. Tail outside the arc of the turn. See min.1:51 ! Right aileron compounded the problem by adding adverse yaw.
At exactly 1:54 you can see the mistake made by the pilot, a very common one made by many RC and General Aviation pilots alike. Cross controlling with rudder deflection into the turn and ailerons deflected away from the turn creating a skid condition that combined with a stall, lead to a tail spin.
Did anyone else note that he had full left rudder applied all the way into a left hand death spiral. Once stalled like that, the rudder is the only control that has a chance of picking up a wing. A sad loss to be sure..
And the band.... Played on.
I love airshow demo's but this was clearly a model! I hate with passion the guy on the microphone who wouldn't shut his mouth with the flight demonstration! Then after the crash had the gall to continue blabering! The music was also not appreciated! Very sorry for the loss of such a beautiful model. 😞
Triste fin du Dh 2 pour notre ami Luc d'Arcachon. Un avion magnifique et unique
Mais non , c’est pas la fin , il revole . Et mieux …
@@Llboyngton Ça va le pilote ? J'ai pas vu qui c'était mais je pense qu'il est miraculé, il a eu un sacré choque quand-même...😢
The commenter says at 01:25: » this plane is from the debuts of combat aviation, the centering is hard, it easily goes into a spin (...) it killed many of it’s pilots but through time, we’ll get used, we’ll familiarize (...) »
And then at 01:56: » it’s a nimble aircraft...attention oooooh no no and no! ....this is truly a pity and, you’ll forgive me the expression but: shit ».
:D
I see all kinds of crazy things stated here like the air is thinner over the wings. My observations as a flight instructor and a RC pilot. In slow flight you are always feeding in opposite aileron to keep the plane from over banking. As long as you are coordinated with your rudder nothing wrong with that. Unfortunately with models there is no input to the pilot to see if you are indeed coordinated. Second he was flying very slow as was evident by the nose up attitude, the need to feed in opposite aileron to maintain bank. The end result was he got to slow, he was skidding the turn and then it stalled. As soon as it started rolling he should have added opposite rudder, pitched down, neutralized the ailerons and added full power. At the height he was at a recover from an incipient spin was impossible and a beautiful model was destroyed.
Schrecklich! In den Trümmern sieht man den abgerissenen Fuß des Piloten. Hat der Pilot überlebt?
With the amount of 'wash--in' on those wing and the cavalier piloting, the outcome was inevitable.
The model flew in waves, which means it was tail-heavy. The center of gravity was too far back. You can see exactly how the model tilts over the wing and can no longer be intercepted from the uncontrolled spiral flight. The model pilot should have recognized this.
Worth noting at 1:56~58 full right aileron, but left rudder?!
With modern radio control, it is foolish to not 'mix' rudder and aileron for slow aircraft.
I think your wrong he should learn to fly I never mix controls on fixed wing aircraft learn yo use the left stick
Go fly full scale sailplanes for a bit. I used to have the same mentality, until I started flying sailplanes. I got rid of the mixes and learnt to use the rudder, my flying in all areas has improved greatly!
Please include RC in the title.
It took me 2seconds of flight to know it was RC... Plz put that in the title
Man, that scared the daylights out of me. I thought that was a real plane and pilot.
Just after the voice said "it's a very nimble plane...". Yes, nimble with a little more speed.
Thank God it was a RC plane. At first I thought it was a real one. This crash would have been fatal to the pilot.
The pilot wasn't seriously hurt in the crash but his "Eagle Eye © and Kung Fu Grip ©" needed repair.
Small Frenchman injured?
Sadly I think his baguette was broken.
A broken baguette is not something to bandy about lightly!
Who cares?
Small Englishman, actually.
A classic stall/spin departure from controlled flight. It doesn't matter the scale, physics are physics and once a plane reaches the critical angle of attack, it's gonna stall in.
I wondered. The whole flight seemed unstable. Then, the tight turn. No side area to help with stability, in my amateur view.
I figure that was coming with the speed being reduced and the turns getting tighter.
There was no part of that flight where the aircraft looked stable, a complete death trap! Glad the pilot was ok
Isn't it an R/C plane?
I don't know but the way was flying so unstable it's more than likely 😅
@@tonyrosewell1488
I think it was a VERY large scale 1/2 scale model.
When they are carrying it on at the end & a few comments on here.
Where's the racing ambulance & fire-engines, & people running to help the pilot???
The camouflaged (red) Baron strikes again
The take-off was after only 3 meters. That made me suspicious, but only at the end did I realize it was a RC model.
Classic cross control spin. Thank God it was on RC.
I didn't realise it was a model until the very last shot and comments.
Ooh la la! At least you have a box of spares for the next one 👍
That's a shame. Lovely RC aircraft, and yes, it looked real.
I think it was a lack of correctness from you, not telling, in first place, and explicitly, THAT IT WAS AN
R/C MODEL, not a real plane.
Let's be honest.!!!
Nice model, He had his hands full from liftoff. Almost looks a little tail heavy but hard to say in that wind with that style plane.
You ruddered the turn and stalled the inner wing!
aren't airplanes suppose to land on their wheels? i don't understand this
Yes, they are supposed to land on their wheels.
I'll break it down so it's easy to understand.
When the plane stops flying, if it is on the ground, sitting on it's wheels, that was a landing.
If the plane is still in the air when it stops flying, well that's going to be a big problem. Because soon it's going to be sitting on the ground, on it's nose. That's not a landing.
We call that a crash.
This turn is too thin！It might help if you can speed it up immediately.😅
Did he Dieded?
Il vole a nouveau
Yeah, but he was resurrected on the third day... which was actually after two days because, well, Catholic time keeping.
They’re just as dangerous today as they were back then.
The MC for the show sounds like he’s do an ASMR video.
Les victimes ?? 2 grillons ,1 sauterelle et un mulot Rip 😂
What a shame. Such a beautiful model. That's a lot of work.
Le pilote est heureusement indemne. Légèrement perturbé par la violence du crash, il a été pris en charge par les sapeurs pompiers et directement emmené à l'hôpital le plus proche. Son pronostic vital n'est pas engagé. En revanche, on ne sait pas encore à ce jour, s'il pourra reprendre un jour le pilotage. La famille reste au chevet de son proche et remercie toutes les personnes présentes sur les lieux pour leur rapide intervention
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Voulais juste rassurer la famille du pilote en plastique
I am learning French and, for a while, was confused by this comment, lol.
French flyers 😂😂best leave the proper flying to the brits and Americans.
@@askiff1415 ouch
With a good wind, lots of rc pilots make the mistake of flying too slowly on a downwind. From a position on the ground, visually, pilots get fooled. With full deflection of controls things just get worse.
Did he say " eau de toilette" at 2:40 ?
No. Entoilage
The flight dynamics were "wrong" from the takeoff. Not enough mass against the aero forces.