I've owned both Browning and Beretta O/U's and I prefer the Brownings. Rock solid and utterly dependable with enough options to keep the lineup interesting. Thank you for a great video. Cheers
Bought a new 2023 525g3 12 bore to complement my 525 20 bore. Put 1000 shells through it already and has performed flawlessly. Shot Berettas and Blaser f16 before coming back to Browning and just feels right. Roll on growing old together.
My 325 20 bore is IM over IC. Use it for all clay sports...amazing Browning. My 525 20 bore/28 bore barrel set is a surprise. 20 bore is Inventor choked and the 28 is Inventor plus. All numbers match, so I was surprised. Not a Browning expert such as yourself. Thanks for these great videos. 🇨🇦🇬🇧
Love the 525. Borrowed a tubed one from my coach to learn the weight difference with and without tubes. It was a sweet gun. It was old and repaired multiple times, but it just loved breaking clays.
I only bought an MK38 during lockdown because of JC and his own modified colour case hardened Miroku and his passion for it! And I have to say it is superb!
I have two 525's 32" 12 and a 30" 20. One thing to watch for is the screw that retains the ejector side plates. When they come off the ejectors go flying. As already noted firing pins, I replace mine annually.
Quality, perfect timing I am in the market for a 525 so found it really useful. Love listening and watching you get excited about the engineering details Look forward to the next one keep them coming.
I really enjoyed this detailed breakdown of this Browning. Makes me feel all warm inside . Since I just bought one and was having 2nd thoughts. Thanks 😊
The Browning Citori in all its different variations are notorious for bottom firing pin issues. Had mine for 4000rds and already replaced the bottom firing pin.
Been waiting 50 years to own a Superposed (they have soul unlike the Citori 😉) and finally got a steal on a near mint trap special, amazing firearm with a horribly cheap feeling selector/safety. Not an issue for what I paid but they’d have to do something about it before I buy the 20ga Autumn I’m lusting after but isn’t available to us Yankees. No idea who’s running Brownings marketing but oh well, I’m certain Guerini or Rizzini will gladly take my money 🤷🏽♂️ As always, wonderful video 👍🏼👍🏼
I have a 525 i got years ago. My neighbor put an adjustable shoulder pkate on it but didn't cut the stock so it can be back. I'll tell you, it's one sweet over and under.
I own a Citori GL Mark IV, best looking gun in my collection and still the best shooting. I love this channel! Just discovered it. As a massive fan of Forgotten Weapons TH-cam, this is that...plus better production value. Rare gem! #subscribed
I had a Citori 425 Sporting that was an absolute joy to shoot on any clays field, when the 525 came out I really couldn't.justify buying one since there wasn't that much that had changed. I'm curious as to whether or not the 425 was released in the UK and Europe ? I rarely see much about them. Great video thank you for presenting it.
I have to be honest I shoot the new miroku mk38 trap for DTL and love it I bought the new 525 sporter For sporting clays and had nothing but problems with the trigger sticking I also bought the new browning A5 when they first came out for Wildfowling and same problem triggers sticking I ended up selling both and bought a silver pigeon and have had no problems
Very interesting, no wonder they're so heavy, a lot going on in that ejector system. I much prefer the simple system in my Baretta 686, one spring, no tools required for removal. Kushty
The 525/425/38 and mighty 101's, cannot be beaten in terms of mechanical advantage, people like Sam Green, Aj Smith, Robert Hall proved that these guns can go to the very top, plus an 8500 gti etc are beautiful
You forgot to mention one thing: the bottom firing pin tends to wear out quickly on Citori/*25. Of course, it can be changed, but my 725 with maybe 5000shots on the bottom barrel shows wear on the firing pin. On an old 425 we picked up a while back, we ended up changing the firing pins&springs. The bottom pin showed significant wear. That old thing is still working. 1200$CAD for a 425 was a steal.
I read somewhere there have been approx 4M guns of this design made by Browning/Miroku. If they weren't made in such volumes the price would much higher. Can't be beaten for value & quality.
Miroku make the mass produced over under models for both the American and European market. Belgium is the custom shop that make the handmade B25. th-cam.com/video/FD4pmeUfrzY/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Hi John, I have recently bought a Browning Citori and I found your video very interesting. I am trying to find out the model and also the date of manufacture, but I keep drawing a blank when searching the Internet, even on the Browning sites, do you know where I can get this information for the age and model of my gun? Thanks in advance Mark.
@ Thank you. I have just checked it. The serial number is NP which makes it 1998. It’s my first shotgun, beautiful condition, only one slight little mark on the stock, and fits me perfectly without any modifications.
The Browning Citori and Miroku are all Japanese, the only Browning over and unders that are made in Belgium are the B25s with the fore end and barrels connected.
Jonny, in all your travels have you ever seen a 525 receiver break where the section is the hammer screws/pins pass through? I can send you a picture to clarify exactly where if you would like.
Because of the location of the pivot point on the hammer. At 16:00 you can see the circular cutout for the back of the top firing pin that lines up with the outside of the hammer, meanwhile at 23:47 you can see the bottom firing pin protruding from its hole and lining up with the middle of the hammer, which isn’t traveling nearly as fast as the outside.
Can someone please explain why I love John Browning so much... But I absolutely hate Browning company? Is it because they're so big? Is it because they don't make anything in America? Is it because I'm just naturally a difficult person who can't get on board for things? Yeah probably. I'm a bit of an ass.
I don't love John Browning LOL I like my 725. good gun (same could be said of my 686). I hate the company Browning because too much of it is branding of countless products.
@@stephb1514 They just desperately need to start making some things in America. I think their rifles need to come back to America. I don't know how it is where you live, but I don't know anybody with a browning rifle. I know people who have had them years ago. But I don't know anyone who's even considering buying one. Do I think they're bad, I don't know. You know when the last time I shot one was... I don't know. I don't know anyone who has one. Anyone who's considering one. I know people with their shotguns, I think like half of the hunters I know have the old humpback. But I don't know anybody with a rifle. And I think just bringing it back in production here would go a long way. I know that Winchester is kind of their arm of that now, But there's problems with Winchester. Supposedly, Winchester is going to produce a few lever actions in America now, because apparently we build better lever actions than the Japanese. Which kind of makes sense.
I bought a brand new Citori , 2023. It is back to Browning for the second time now. Still waiting. So far, it is a useless brick. They sent it back the first time, said “fixed”. My gun store took it out of the box, put it together and - were shocked. Nope , same issue, still there. So the reboxed it and sent it back. Still waiting…. Legendary , maybe in the past. Today, just more low quality, overpriced crap.
It's delightful to see someone completely nerd out on a subject he's passionate about!
I love these more technical videos, it's great to see the "under the bonnet" of these fantastic guns.
As a mechanic and lover of anything mechanical I can appreciate your enthusiasm Jonny 😊 keep up the great work 👍
I've owned both Browning and Beretta O/U's and I prefer the Brownings. Rock solid and utterly dependable with enough options to keep the lineup interesting. Thank you for a great video. Cheers
Bought a new 2023 525g3 12 bore to complement my 525 20 bore. Put 1000 shells through it already and has performed flawlessly. Shot Berettas and Blaser f16 before coming back to Browning and just feels right. Roll on growing old together.
Gran escopeta muy bien concebida y fabricada por esa gran marca que es BOWNING. 👏 ❤❤
My 325 20 bore is IM over IC. Use it for all clay sports...amazing Browning.
My 525 20 bore/28 bore barrel set is a surprise. 20 bore is Inventor choked and the 28 is Inventor plus. All numbers match, so I was surprised. Not a Browning expert such as yourself.
Thanks for these great videos. 🇨🇦🇬🇧
Love the 525. Borrowed a tubed one from my coach to learn the weight difference with and without tubes. It was a sweet gun. It was old and repaired multiple times, but it just loved breaking clays.
I only bought an MK38 during lockdown because of JC and his own modified colour case hardened Miroku and his passion for it! And I have to say it is superb!
I have a pair of 425s in 20 bore and they have been flawless for 25 years. Best bird guns I've ever had. Cheers from California 🍻
I have two 525's 32" 12 and a 30" 20. One thing to watch for is the screw that retains the ejector side plates. When they come off the ejectors go flying. As already noted firing pins, I replace mine annually.
Thanks John love this stuff I have 725 and it looks close to the same thing 👍🏻
Good go Jonny! Very enjoyable and informative!
This is Johnny at his best, I really enjoy the gun Smit type video and the land management videos
Terrific, thank you! Just love the more technical in depth videos!
Quality, perfect timing I am in the market for a 525 so found it really useful. Love listening and watching you get excited about the engineering details
Look forward to the next one keep them coming.
Hell yes, now I can eat lunch in peace!
Well said sir!
Time tested guns. Interesting review and very detailed information. Good job JC.
I really enjoyed this detailed breakdown of this Browning. Makes me feel all warm inside . Since I just bought one and was having 2nd thoughts. Thanks 😊
Great Video - Thanks for doing it, very helpful. There was always a few parts that I didn't understand.
The Browning Citori in all its different variations are notorious for bottom firing pin issues. Had mine for 4000rds and already replaced the bottom firing pin.
Been waiting 50 years to own a Superposed (they have soul unlike the Citori 😉) and finally got a steal on a near mint trap special, amazing firearm with a horribly cheap feeling selector/safety. Not an issue for what I paid but they’d have to do something about it before I buy the 20ga Autumn I’m lusting after but isn’t available to us Yankees. No idea who’s running Brownings marketing but oh well, I’m certain Guerini or Rizzini will gladly take my money 🤷🏽♂️ As always, wonderful video 👍🏼👍🏼
TGS goes old school!! Fantastic video to watch (As a MK38 owner, Im not biased at all) ❤❤
Brilliant! Even though i´ve taken mine apart several times, i thoroughly enjoyed this!
I have a 525 i got years ago. My neighbor put an adjustable shoulder pkate on it but didn't cut the stock so it can be back. I'll tell you, it's one sweet over and under.
I own a Citori GL Mark IV, best looking gun in my collection and still the best shooting.
I love this channel! Just discovered it. As a massive fan of Forgotten Weapons TH-cam, this is that...plus better production value. Rare gem! #subscribed
Thanks for subscribing
I love an old browning like an old pair of jeans, fits right and just comfortable! Thank you far another great video!
I had a Citori 425 Sporting that was an absolute joy to shoot on any clays field, when the 525 came out I really couldn't.justify buying one since there wasn't that much that had changed. I'm curious as to whether or not the 425 was released in the UK and Europe ? I rarely see much about them. Great video thank you for presenting it.
I have to be honest I shoot the new miroku mk38 trap for DTL and love it I bought the new 525 sporter For sporting clays and had nothing but problems with the trigger sticking I also bought the new browning A5 when they first came out for Wildfowling and same problem triggers sticking I ended up selling both and bought a silver pigeon and have had no problems
Had my gti 8 years. I wish I never sold it great gun.
John, thank you for that very insightful comment about gunsmiths being pessimists. That explains everything to me and quite a bit about myself 😂
Now I own a Browning XS pro that was a great film Johnny.
Very interesting, no wonder they're so heavy, a lot going on in that ejector system. I much prefer the simple system in my Baretta 686, one spring, no tools required for removal. Kushty
yeah, massively interesting. Great knowledge.
Really enjoyed watching this video but not as much as I enjoyed watching you push those ejected shells out of the way. Good work.
The 525/425/38 and mighty 101's, cannot be beaten in terms of mechanical advantage, people like Sam Green, Aj Smith, Robert Hall proved that these guns can go to the very top, plus an 8500 gti etc are beautiful
Best there is me thinks.👍👌and the easiest gun to work on ,worked on these for years.
Thanks for the insight. Love these guns.
i have a 525 citori in 16g ported barrels palm swell nice tight gun
You forgot to mention one thing: the bottom firing pin tends to wear out quickly on Citori/*25. Of course, it can be changed, but my 725 with maybe 5000shots on the bottom barrel shows wear on the firing pin. On an old 425 we picked up a while back, we ended up changing the firing pins&springs. The bottom pin showed significant wear. That old thing is still working. 1200$CAD for a 425 was a steal.
You can usually get 20,000 out of a standard pin, 30 pounds running cost at 200 shells a week for 2 years- hard to beat that
I read somewhere there have been approx 4M guns of this design made by Browning/Miroku.
If they weren't made in such volumes the price would much higher.
Can't be beaten for value & quality.
Hope to pick up a 525 from the UK. The US stocks are too low for me.
how about a how to on fitting the auto safety that comes with the 525 in the box
Brilliant video. Please make a similar for Beretta68x series,Zoli, etc...
Hammering the bites and forend to close them up is proper gunmaking practice , all the best makers do it.
The newer (2014-) 725 sporting guns does not have any CIP proof marks on the barrel. Why is this and what are they rated as?
4:12 aren’t American Citoris made by Miroku in Japan and European ones by FN/Browning in Belgium though?
Miroku make the mass produced over under models for both the American and European market.
Belgium is the custom shop that make the handmade B25.
th-cam.com/video/FD4pmeUfrzY/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
I just bought a brand new Browning and it was assembled in Japan, and I’m European.
Hi can you find me a B525 stock?
Very informative Johnny, you now know you're biscuits 👍.
When I break down my 525 and remove the forearm, are the ejector springs in the loaded position?
Very interesting video, thank you.
Thanks for this vid!!!!
Great video. Do a 725 next?
Great old school, TGS !
Where is the green shirt with the two pockets gone?
Nevertheless, great content as always . 👍
Hi John, I have recently bought a Browning Citori and I found your video very interesting. I am trying to find out the model and also the date of manufacture, but I keep drawing a blank when searching the Internet, even on the Browning sites, do you know where I can get this information for the age and model of my gun? Thanks in advance Mark.
Age is done from the letters in the serial number, if you search ‘how old is my browning’ the date codes always come up
@ Thank you. I have just checked it. The serial number is NP which makes it 1998.
It’s my first shotgun, beautiful condition, only one slight little mark on the stock, and fits me perfectly without any modifications.
Good Video well done.
Browning A5 sweet sixteen is king and Ithaca over under engraved with gold birds
I need a 325 stock ? Been looking for well over a year and still looking
Muy excelentes arma amigos saludos elegante belleza
The Likes were at 525... I felt really weird screwing that all up with another.
Thank you. More of the same please!
There are some shotguns in USA tha rulling on stats 😢😢😢😢❤
The Browning Citori and Miroku are all Japanese, the only Browning over and unders that are made in Belgium are the B25s with the fore end and barrels connected.
Browning Is the best!!!!!! Lo dice un italiano!!!!!
Jonny, in all your travels have you ever seen a 525 receiver break where the section is the hammer screws/pins pass through? I can send you a picture to clarify exactly where if you would like.
Not one I have seen yet!
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Why is the bottom firing pin not as powerful as the top.
Because of the location of the pivot point on the hammer. At 16:00 you can see the circular cutout for the back of the top firing pin that lines up with the outside of the hammer, meanwhile at 23:47 you can see the bottom firing pin protruding from its hole and lining up with the middle of the hammer, which isn’t traveling nearly as fast as the outside.
@@herpderpinson6117 Bottom barrel is also on an angle and not in line reducing striking force
@@herpderpinson6117 is there a fix
@@collarsnstuff8608 is there a fix
o o o gun made by BAIKAL!!! 😂😂😂
Can someone please explain why I love John Browning so much... But I absolutely hate Browning company?
Is it because they're so big? Is it because they don't make anything in America? Is it because I'm just naturally a difficult person who can't get on board for things?
Yeah probably. I'm a bit of an ass.
I don't love John Browning LOL I like my 725. good gun (same could be said of my 686). I hate the company Browning because too much of it is branding of countless products.
John Browning was a sexy dude.
@@stephb1514 They just desperately need to start making some things in America. I think their rifles need to come back to America. I don't know how it is where you live, but I don't know anybody with a browning rifle. I know people who have had them years ago. But I don't know anyone who's even considering buying one. Do I think they're bad, I don't know. You know when the last time I shot one was... I don't know. I don't know anyone who has one. Anyone who's considering one. I know people with their shotguns, I think like half of the hunters I know have the old humpback. But I don't know anybody with a rifle. And I think just bringing it back in production here would go a long way. I know that Winchester is kind of their arm of that now, But there's problems with Winchester. Supposedly, Winchester is going to produce a few lever actions in America now, because apparently we build better lever actions than the Japanese. Which kind of makes sense.
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I bought a brand new Citori , 2023. It is back to Browning for the second time now. Still waiting. So far, it is a useless brick. They sent it back the first time, said “fixed”. My gun store took it out of the box, put it together and - were shocked. Nope , same issue, still there. So the reboxed it and sent it back. Still waiting…. Legendary , maybe in the past. Today, just more low quality, overpriced crap.
Japanese shotguns are the Best money for the value relationship...italian cant say the same..
Got one , it’s brilliant 🤙😎