Cheap to Charming - 90 Minute Gun Improvement Challenge

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  • Cheap to Charming is Back! The show where we take a cheap gun and try to make it as good as it can be has returned for 2022, this time with a 90 minute time limit for the work on each episode
    To get a ShotKam in the Fathers Day sale: bit.ly/TGSOutdoors-ShotKam
    Part One sees us try and tackle the basics of gun fit in under 90 mins, and try to get this gun pointing where i am looking, and more comfortable to shoot.
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  • @abbgdr
    @abbgdr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it, as an occasional gun restorer you made me extremely thankful for my fully equipped woodworking shop!!!

  • @Frozzie33
    @Frozzie33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad you kept the firedoor clear 🤣

  • @markcooper1505
    @markcooper1505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would love to see it after a few more hours

  • @wholeNwon
    @wholeNwon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Though I don't especially like the checkering pattern, it was otherwise a very nice gun to begin with. I would have been happy to have owned it.

  • @ddoherty5956
    @ddoherty5956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Even Jonny has to have his tea break on his own time, harsh task master🤣🤣🤣

  • @Waldymachine
    @Waldymachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yes! missed this series!

  • @stephenvikla6926
    @stephenvikla6926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @tgsoutdoors I would love a video on options to adjust older guns. I own a few Japanese O/Us but I’m 6’4”. I’d like to lengthen the stock either in a removable fashion so it can go back to original or in a nice way i.e pad options or a wood extension. Love your attitude on using and enjoying the not as mainstream guns, they are beautiful in their own way.

  • @MSJOnline1
    @MSJOnline1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good work in 90 mins! Be great to see follow up with more tweaks!

  • @robbreeze7599
    @robbreeze7599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. I really enjoy the cheap to cheerful series.
    Perhaps you could, in the future, do a full restoration on this Betty?

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would be fun, and an insane prospect!

  • @faycalamezianeelhassani4471
    @faycalamezianeelhassani4471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice job. well done! for the timing allowed that's an achievement.

  • @glenns7139
    @glenns7139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yet again a very entertaining video Jonny (and Sash). You have given me the inspiration to mess around with an old Webley 410 bolt action where I have refinished the stock totally and polished a few bits and fitted a rubber recoil to extend it somewhat., Still has patina but looks 100% better and have had a few positive comments. Keep up the fantastic work and hope to meet you in person at some point. Well done.

    • @manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
      @manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You'll be loading your own cartridges for that soon , you wont get 2.5 inch .410 cartridges in steel 🤨

  • @PattyRusts
    @PattyRusts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoying this channel. Keep it up 😆

  • @simonchilton1331
    @simonchilton1331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved it would like to see how nice it could be !! , Looked good on film

  • @sjowners
    @sjowners ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire it! You fire a gun!

  • @Blondejam
    @Blondejam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One heck of a job in a small timeframe. If I ever have any stock work done and it takes longer than 1-1/2hrs I'll show them this vid and get some discount!!! Cracking job JC

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure you’d want it to this standard

    • @Blondejam
      @Blondejam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tgsoutdoors 🤣🤣🤣

  • @andyg3240
    @andyg3240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its good to see the cheap to charming again.

  • @scottdiller1893
    @scottdiller1893 ปีที่แล้ว

    JC, get yourself a farrier rasp, Heller makes a nice one. Just watching at the 12:17 mark and noticed that you are using a much smaller rasp. They are wonderful for heavy stock removal and leave a fine finish to boot, and have a coarse/fine side. I make infill planes, and use these farrier rasps all the time to shape ironwood, walnut, and "shatter" happy woods. they are very gentle, highly recommend. Unsolicited advice from a stranger...

  • @brianduffy5193
    @brianduffy5193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really entertaining video 👍

  • @goory93
    @goory93 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you should thin out the grip cap into a nice white stripe and put on some ebony (or something black) to match the recoil pad. And then do the comb work you want, I'd love to see what all you could come up with at the end.

  • @jas20per
    @jas20per ปีที่แล้ว

    Did the same thing with a 1960's under and over twin triggers Baikal though taking more time over its remodelling. It now keeps people guessing on what make it is.

  • @KathrynLiz1
    @KathrynLiz1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel better now... my workshop is a bit shambolic too! Incredible job in 90mins...well done you.... I think you overdid the grip cap by quite a lot.
    Tidy up the wood some more, get it to fit you a wee bit better and re-finish those barrels..... tripled its value at least.... 🙂

  • @Cats.Hammers.
    @Cats.Hammers. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The pistol grip extension looks like a Cuban heel. Top laugh.

  • @Parfashrek
    @Parfashrek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So good😂😂😂

  • @ipod1978
    @ipod1978 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video pal. I’d like to see what you could do with a full day. Let’s see what you could possibly transform with a low budget, low cost o/u multi choke gun to try and lift it up to more of a match spec gun in a full working day.

  • @robpowell9162
    @robpowell9162 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gunsmithing video but with your brands unique filmography? We need more of this please? Even if it’s a higher end £1000-2000 gun tarting up. What could you do with an old silver pigeon in a 4 parter, where you actually spend a day on a gun rather than rush?
    Lovely video, really enjoyed as always!

  • @Sorehole
    @Sorehole ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jonny, great video! what are the LS hats you’re wearing?

  • @jugaadsinghsekhon1784
    @jugaadsinghsekhon1784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely kiddo

  • @SilojensenDK
    @SilojensenDK ปีที่แล้ว

    You succeeded in making a pig's ear out of the stock! Great video!

  • @funkla65
    @funkla65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Under £100? I'd drop three Benjamins on that gun any day of the week. Neat action; lacking the side lugs of an SKB, so not quite as nice as one of those, but still a nice poor boy's Merkel. Definitely more interesting to look at than another Rizzini/Brescia knock-off.
    Given you put that big black extension in there, I would've stuck with black for the grip extension, too.
    Looking forward to a follow up on what you do with the comb. Maybe you'll like the end product enough to keep it around for rainy day shoots.

    • @mrcaboosevg6089
      @mrcaboosevg6089 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One good thing about the UK, shotguns of any shape or size that you want can be had for scrap price

  • @user-vg9zd1nc1w
    @user-vg9zd1nc1w หลายเดือนก่อน

    As charming as a pavement pizza at midnight lol

  • @contax50mm
    @contax50mm 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superglue is for wounds!

  • @leec12
    @leec12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was that gun in the last Holts auction? I did see one in amongst the cheaper guns for not much. I'd have bought it if I lived in the UK

  • @robinstacpoole2667
    @robinstacpoole2667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like this. Is it possible for you to use and include some shotkam footage in these?

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We usually do, but had filled the card up doing other films you will have seen on both days!

    • @robinstacpoole2667
      @robinstacpoole2667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@tgsoutdoors Have you ever thought to use 2? One on your gun and another on your coaches while you shoot the same 10 clay stand? Use the long record option so that you can check up on your hold point and consistency, comparing how you do this to your coach? A nightmare I know, but you would probably be up for it. Also ... have you ever considered getting a forward camera (smart phone ) facing backwards filming how you mount the gun at the same time? Shotkam is GREAT but shooting is about more than lead, and the Proofhouse team look to have the video excellence to show this. Of course, the answer to this is probably no, no and HELL NO, but what the heck, I thought to share a concept and ask a question.
      Loving your videos, and this one has inspired me to consider setting up my own workshop, thanks for that (I think)

  • @RockBandEclipse
    @RockBandEclipse ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a bettinsoli back in the 80's it beat me up every time I used it due to poor fit. The gun was strong but it had to go, if it had fit better I'd probably still have it now.

  • @leec12
    @leec12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you get that in the last Holt's auction? Saw one in the catalogue

  • @barryhill6482
    @barryhill6482 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the Zoli shotguns an off-shoot of this old gun. The name sure rang with it!

  • @jrpoe9561
    @jrpoe9561 ปีที่แล้ว

    What recoil pad was that? I’m in need of a extension like that

  • @oOTBONE77Oo
    @oOTBONE77Oo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this… on a serious note though, could you do show us how to upgrade our guns please.. such as the mk38?? To make them shoot better/feel better?? Thanks again

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some Teague Titaniums in the end and go and shoot!

    • @oOTBONE77Oo
      @oOTBONE77Oo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tgsoutdoors it’s already got Teague chokes.. come on, don’t tease there’s got to be more lol 😂

    • @sjowners
      @sjowners ปีที่แล้ว

      Balance it slightly front heavy.

  • @andybannon7680
    @andybannon7680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Send it to longthorne and see what they can do with it!!

  • @clive1539
    @clive1539 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly the cap doesn’t look good at all.
    Used to use a true oil finish on mine, but you get a build up eventually, and the shiny craggy finish lost me after a while.
    Strip the wood with thinners, steel wool the stock and applied 2 coats each 24 hours apart of Matt finish oil for floorboards that I got from a flooring friend….( ridiculously expensive stuff but free for me ) delicious.
    Matt finish that enhances the grain.
    Given how the stock looks with the extension and the cap, it’s obviously more functional…. But new custom stock would certainly look better.

  • @jpdorsethq1280
    @jpdorsethq1280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend Steve Middleditch an Englishman and shooting instructor in Florida now did something like this to a B25 Browning D5.Steve is not really a gunsmith as such.Certainly not back then.Not sure if the gun shot any better for him.😈He did have all the tools though including a lock Knife 🙃

  • @Tedcz2e
    @Tedcz2e ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you should paint over that fire door sign or move the bench.

  • @olivierdarveau8293
    @olivierdarveau8293 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd still trade my crappy X-9 Sporting any day of the week for this charming project 😅

  • @andyg3240
    @andyg3240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks super 70s with that grip extension. I didn’t realize you still did gun work.

  • @lucasainscough4887
    @lucasainscough4887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Snazzy Proofhouse cap! Are they available to buy?

  • @johngregory8576
    @johngregory8576 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, cheap to charming; l missed these. Was worried yur maun had forgotten how to 'smith ;D

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      By the state of this gun - I have forgotten how to do it quickly!

    • @johngregory8576
      @johngregory8576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tgsoutdoors To be fair, given this was only 90 minutes you did an excellent job. A series of 90 minute quick improvements to this same gun would be really good. Different jobs, though mind; can't go back to a previous task :D

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johngregory8576 That might already the plan, depending on how this performed - you last words are a hell of an idea, although i'm sure it will add stress to my life!

    • @hammyh1165
      @hammyh1165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I started with a late eighties Bettisolli 12ga non ejector and it was good enough, it went bang and hit things.
      Really enjoy these cheap to charming videos.

  • @MegaRiffraff
    @MegaRiffraff ปีที่แล้ว

    👍🏻

  • @TSCTheshootingchannel
    @TSCTheshootingchannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the name of the channel that reviews bettinsolis? lol

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      #italiansbestkeptsecret

  • @DJONES8610
    @DJONES8610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has nothing to do with what I just watched. But just an idea would it be possible to do a test on shotgun barrel length and velocity? Maybe compare the shortest legal barrel length a 24 inch barrels velocity to let's say a 34 inch barrels velocity. Obviously using the same cartridge.

    • @geraldswain3259
      @geraldswain3259 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be negligible, end of !.

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There was a test in a magazine about 15 years ago. The result :
      14” was complete burn under normal conditions for modern powder.
      There was a few feet per second between 24 and 30, but nothing that would induce a miss

  • @tom451
    @tom451 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what shooting glasses Johnny uses?

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Usually Hiroki 2’s but was trying out some of the Laksen eyewear in this vid

    • @tom451
      @tom451 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tgsoutdoors what’s your opinion on them? Worth the money. I did look at them a while ago but they look almost flat glass in the videos I didn’t recognise them.

  • @twinpotracer
    @twinpotracer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd buy that, if you are selling it 😂

  • @neodutch
    @neodutch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's bubba'ed

  • @ave5atan666
    @ave5atan666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a full fitting job on this gun, lad

  • @user-zr1xz1st4k
    @user-zr1xz1st4k หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to see you put the six hours into it. You now you want to, you little gun tinkerer 😀

  • @danhill6333
    @danhill6333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So why is the Nibby Nobby dictating the terms? 😂😂

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Got to give him something!

    • @danhill6333
      @danhill6333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tgsoutdoors How about an ice cream or a kabob? 😉

  • @royjennison3916
    @royjennison3916 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    on this one , i prefer the be for , mate , sorry .

  • @daniellewis5413
    @daniellewis5413 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a joke !! fxxked up that shotgun !!!

  • @bowbender5095
    @bowbender5095 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You ruined a nice old shotgun, I feel like I just watched you kill a puppy

  • @K80Ed
    @K80Ed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video would only be improved by the addition of some gangster rap… #trendsetters

  • @mikeproctor3664
    @mikeproctor3664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're not getting a job at Purdey's

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure they would allow at least 2 hours

  • @gnarshread
    @gnarshread 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please go back and fix it properly. I know its a cheap gun but it dosent deserve the bubba treatment.

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just wait for episode 2 🙄

  • @stephenland9361
    @stephenland9361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Overall, not bad. That hardly means good but it wasn't all bad. Except for the grip cap. That was bad. Very, very bad. Awful, terrible, downright shite. Did you do that for comic effect? Don't.

    • @tgsoutdoors
      @tgsoutdoors  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately, I was committed 😂