The previous manager couldn’t get this group of players to press as a unit, the current manager can’t get them to do it either. There’s only one constant and it’s the players.
It’s the poor recruitment that got these players to begin with. The squad Fergie left in 2013 was aging and a lot of their players were average. We didn’t have proper recruitment to instill a new identity and help a smooth transition. The recruitment was so bad to the point where this squad suits no one.
How about the players whom were let go and once they leave United, they're World class players. Just look at all the players like Angelo DiMaria, Lukaku, MacTommny Mhikitariy and so many others. Does United have Fergie curse that all managers who come struggle and any good player they sign just become mediocre. The only player who has tried much is Bruno Fernandez.
@@Keith-z1s Please can you name any player who moved to United after Fergie left and became better? If anything United has destroyed many players careers e.g Anthony Martial, Paul Pobga, Van de Beek and many others I can't remember off my head now. These players left worse than when they joined United.
We keep beating around the bush with all these interviews and TV shows. Manchester United are a counter attacking team simple. This is the reason why any coach who wants to play on the front foot can never make any headway with this team... But I must say that this team is too good to be 14th on the league table. However, I only believe that coaches like conte and morinho can get something out of this team. Possibly a top 4 finish. But the question is, is that progress? NO.
I agree 💯 with JULS on this.. United get exposed when having to take initiative and create. It is easier to organize defensively..i disagree with him in that it takes more time than 3 months to implement the attacking side of it. He had no time in the training thats the truth
I think Onana needs to be on the bench -- put Bayindir instead. He did well in the cup game and seems more capable. Also, I'd focus on defense and midfield more, put more bodies, to make it hard to beat and then focus on attack. He needs to change something.
Thats pretty bad how the Manager talks about his players. Its like he is blaming them and doesn't want to take any of the blame. He seems pretty arrogant as well even though he has still yet to Manage a big club and do well.
I thought Arteta loved himself but Amorim is making Arteta look humble. I really was a big fan of Amorim before he came to United. But the last two months I’ve been disappointed not only by his performances but also his character. He has a massive ego!
You are both reading this entirely the wrong way. Amorim is trying to expose the significant issues of the squad to the ownership of the club. Most of them are very good players, but they are unwilling to change their style of counter attacking play to move towards Amorim's system of more aggressive pressing and control over the ball. 80% of the roster can't do this effectively and need to be progressively moved on.
@michaelrowell7798 have you ever played before? Because if you get a new Coach and you are asked to play differently but you keep losingandnot getting results, its so so hard to keep committing to playing this way when you and the team are not playing well. If I was a player and heard my Coach say this, I would not want to play for him when I was giving my all and doing like he says and getting battered.
@johnmiceter These are elite professional footballers being paid thousands of £ per week to play a game, and to date, they have shown little or no ability or willingness to adapt to the requirements of Amorim's system. That is where the frustration lies and why Amorim is sending a thinly veiled signal to the ownership at United saying if you recruited me to manage the football club then we must move towards this style of play and I need players who will follow my system as pretty much all of the current roster can't or won't do it. We have been a mediocre club since Fergie left and have not actually regressed in terms of an effective style of play since that time. The culture of the place stinks, it is a Players FC as they can simply dictate when they want to play, and at last, we have a manager who tells ut as it is and will do what needs to be done to improve the club so we can compete for titles again.
@michaelrowell7798 but the fault just can't lie with the players. You can't say with all the players at United, Amorim can't find 11 players to play the style he wants? Its pretty rare that in a whole squad there isn't even 11 players to play how he wants. I'm a Liverpool supporter and when Klopp took over in his first season, they had to completely change how they played and they also had a medicore squad back then with no good defenders or GK's and they finished 6th. Klopp had to drill it into his players how they wanted to play (and you said it yourself) the players are professionals and should be able to adapt, but maybe just maybe the way Amorim plays, isn't that good and he needs to accept some of the blame and not offload it all onto his players. I just find it EXTREMELY hard to believe, that he cat find 11 players in the whole United club (including the Youth team) to play how he wants. Maybe his style just doesn't work in the Premier League? Maybe he isnt a good man Manager also, to get the best out of players like certain other Managers are?
Sorry but to play a 3-4-3 you have to have quick CMs and play a high defensive line with quick CBs...United have neither and have no money to completely change the players in the squad...this is why the appointment of Amorim completely baffled me at the time...I assume this question was asked before he was appointed as to whether he could adapt his formation to suit the current squad
Julz stop yapping about things you dont understand. Im not a united fan but ask anyone whos coached a team . It is not a quick process to organize a high press. It takes time. Stop yapping
Ah yes the old "they're international players" argument. Most of these players don't start for their countries. You all grossly exaggerate the quality of the squad as a basis for which to blame the manager.
Martinez starts for Argentina and a World Cup winner. Maguire is due to get back to the England squad and be a starter again, Onana starts for Cameroon, Mazuraoui is Moroccos left back, Dalot starts for Portugal, Ugarte starts for Uruguay, Mainoo was a starter for England at the Euros, Bruno starts for Portugal, Hojlund starts upfront for Denmark and Amad is a starter for Ivory Coast. That’s 10 players so what are you on about?
It's staggering how many excuses United gets compared to Spurs and as a much bigger football club ofc,just mindboggling....Gab is talking about how Newcastle is good therefore that loss wasn't that bad,yet when Spurs played Newcastle witj 15 milllion injuries,a 18y old midfielder at CB and play a 50 50 game vs Newcastle and they lose,everybody killed them😂🤦♂️
The blatant racism being on display in a lot of la liga games is an old problem. It ain't new. And it's a big part of what the Spanish soccer league has been all about. Those racist abuses are heartbreaking and wrong.
Why are these players not proactive? Every time i look at Amorin, he is on the touchline telling players which position to take up. Cant stand this Juls, always got a downer on United.
Ten Haag won 2 trophies in 2 yrs.. It's too early to say now but let's see how many trophies amorin wins after 3 more yrs at man UTD I hope they don't sack him
Stop this, he came in midd season.. He didnt wamt to go in midd season for a reason. Changing a system midd season is really hard. And why on earth United wanted him midd season for then to not back him in the Januar window I really something I dont understand. Unitd must have one of the worst fotball owners in football, they are clueless.
They don't need to do very much except pick up there pay cheques . Not quiet the worst they were relegated on 5 occasions previously........... The whole club is rotten to the core. The Glaziers don't give two f'''ks, as long as they get their dividends. Radcliffe doesn't have a clue & is busy cutting costs to save a shilling, he could squander his entire fortune on this sorry mess of a club.
Man U players are mid table over rated trash. Fernandes biggest waste of money, Backline is a joke, Midfield full over mid table average players. Amad is the only standout player currently but even a standout Rashford couldn't change the club
Stupid argument about Manchester United again; those players simply are not good enough. Through them all out and bring bunch of youngsters with thirst and ambition. Accept that and move on.
The previous manager couldn’t get this group of players to press as a unit, the current manager can’t get them to do it either. There’s only one constant and it’s the players.
It’s the poor recruitment that got these players to begin with. The squad Fergie left in 2013 was aging and a lot of their players were average. We didn’t have proper recruitment to instill a new identity and help a smooth transition. The recruitment was so bad to the point where this squad suits no one.
You don't need rocket science to know after changing 6 managers, the problem lies wirh the owners and players
How about the players whom were let go and once they leave United, they're World class players. Just look at all the players like Angelo DiMaria, Lukaku, MacTommny Mhikitariy and so many others. Does United have Fergie curse that all managers who come struggle and any good player they sign just become mediocre. The only player who has tried much is Bruno Fernandez.
@@tomodul2619 di maria left because he didnt like living in manchester. lol lukaku? mctominay is doing well but world class? lol Mkhitaryan?..
@@Keith-z1s
Please can you name any player who moved to United after Fergie left and became better? If anything United has destroyed many players careers e.g Anthony Martial, Paul Pobga, Van de Beek and many others I can't remember off my head now. These players left worse than when they joined United.
We keep beating around the bush with all these interviews and TV shows.
Manchester United are a counter attacking team simple. This is the reason why any coach who wants to play on the front foot can never make any headway with this team... But I must say that this team is too good to be 14th on the league table. However, I only believe that coaches like conte and morinho can get something out of this team. Possibly a top 4 finish. But the question is, is that progress? NO.
Well said! Conte loves this team they appointed him ages ago. There’s a reason Conte keeps wanting to sign our current crop of players
@@jamesmomo2258 United had two counter attacking managers Mourinho and Conte who signed bust profile players.
I agree 💯 with JULS on this.. United get exposed when having to take initiative and create. It is easier to organize defensively..i disagree with him in that it takes more time than 3 months to implement the attacking side of it. He had no time in the training thats the truth
I think Onana needs to be on the bench -- put Bayindir instead. He did well in the cup game and seems more capable. Also, I'd focus on defense and midfield more, put more bodies, to make it hard to beat and then focus on attack. He needs to change something.
Onana has been given so many chances!!!! I like him as a person but my goodness he looks out of his depth. Dropping that cross was kariusesque.
Nunez was banned for the forest game
United lost because of two fundamental errors by Onana, other than that we are moving forward with some upgrades.
So it is because of Onana the only scored one goal(a penalty)?! They have nothing going on in the final 3rd!
@@tubo85ableHahahhaa. Bro don’t engage with United fans they are idiots
You are over simplifying big time. How many shot on goal did we have??? Wake up!
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Thats pretty bad how the Manager talks about his players. Its like he is blaming them and doesn't want to take any of the blame. He seems pretty arrogant as well even though he has still yet to Manage a big club and do well.
I thought Arteta loved himself but Amorim is making Arteta look humble. I really was a big fan of Amorim before he came to United. But the last two months I’ve been disappointed not only by his performances but also his character. He has a massive ego!
You are both reading this entirely the wrong way. Amorim is trying to expose the significant issues of the squad to the ownership of the club. Most of them are very good players, but they are unwilling to change their style of counter attacking play to move towards Amorim's system of more aggressive pressing and control over the ball. 80% of the roster can't do this effectively and need to be progressively moved on.
@michaelrowell7798 have you ever played before? Because if you get a new Coach and you are asked to play differently but you keep losingandnot getting results, its so so hard to keep committing to playing this way when you and the team are not playing well. If I was a player and heard my Coach say this, I would not want to play for him when I was giving my all and doing like he says and getting battered.
@johnmiceter These are elite professional footballers being paid thousands of £ per week to play a game, and to date, they have shown little or no ability or willingness to adapt to the requirements of Amorim's system. That is where the frustration lies and why Amorim is sending a thinly veiled signal to the ownership at United saying if you recruited me to manage the football club then we must move towards this style of play and I need players who will follow my system as pretty much all of the current roster can't or won't do it. We have been a mediocre club since Fergie left and have not actually regressed in terms of an effective style of play since that time. The culture of the place stinks, it is a Players FC as they can simply dictate when they want to play, and at last, we have a manager who tells ut as it is and will do what needs to be done to improve the club so we can compete for titles again.
@michaelrowell7798 but the fault just can't lie with the players. You can't say with all the players at United, Amorim can't find 11 players to play the style he wants? Its pretty rare that in a whole squad there isn't even 11 players to play how he wants.
I'm a Liverpool supporter and when Klopp took over in his first season, they had to completely change how they played and they also had a medicore squad back then with no good defenders or GK's and they finished 6th. Klopp had to drill it into his players how they wanted to play (and you said it yourself) the players are professionals and should be able to adapt, but maybe just maybe the way Amorim plays, isn't that good and he needs to accept some of the blame and not offload it all onto his players.
I just find it EXTREMELY hard to believe, that he cat find 11 players in the whole United club (including the Youth team) to play how he wants. Maybe his style just doesn't work in the Premier League? Maybe he isnt a good man Manager also, to get the best out of players like certain other Managers are?
Sorry but to play a 3-4-3 you have to have quick CMs and play a high defensive line with quick CBs...United have neither and have no money to completely change the players in the squad...this is why the appointment of Amorim completely baffled me at the time...I assume this question was asked before he was appointed as to whether he could adapt his formation to suit the current squad
Juls, Darwin was suspended for the Forest match so he couldn’t start. Know your facts & do ur homework!
I would rather have Ange than Amorim 🤷♂️
The United fans said De Ligt, Ugarte etc where all class players so how can they blame the players lol.
Julz stop yapping about things you dont understand. Im not a united fan but ask anyone whos coached a team . It is not a quick process to organize a high press. It takes time. Stop yapping
Ah yes the old "they're international players" argument. Most of these players don't start for their countries. You all grossly exaggerate the quality of the squad as a basis for which to blame the manager.
Martinez starts for Argentina and a World Cup winner. Maguire is due to get back to the England squad and be a starter again, Onana starts for Cameroon, Mazuraoui is Moroccos left back, Dalot starts for Portugal, Ugarte starts for Uruguay, Mainoo was a starter for England at the Euros, Bruno starts for Portugal, Hojlund starts upfront for Denmark and Amad is a starter for Ivory Coast. That’s 10 players so what are you on about?
The gain on these mics ↘↘↘
What's up with Gab's glazing of Havertz?
It's staggering how many excuses United gets compared to Spurs and as a much bigger football club ofc,just mindboggling....Gab is talking about how Newcastle is good therefore that loss wasn't that bad,yet when Spurs played Newcastle witj 15 milllion injuries,a 18y old midfielder at CB and play a 50 50 game vs Newcastle and they lose,everybody killed them😂🤦♂️
Never been the same for United after Ferguson left
part of the reality is also the competition which is on a other level in epl and international since he left
@ good point I think it’s a combination of both
This team and the Ralf Rangnick era were bad. We are so embarrassing as a collective.
Juls's argument: "Pressing is easy!" Oh really? Lmfao what a comically stupid take.
He's an idiot. We can use pep, klopp and arteta as examples. They all took time to implement the high press on a good level
I love the podcast guys but taking about what is easy and what is not without having professional experience is a little off putting
Greatest achievement of United this season beating arsenal 👏
Do amorin really think he can carry on losing games for the rest of the season and expect ineos to back him in the summer if so he's a clown
The blatant racism being on display in a lot of la liga games is an old problem. It ain't new. And it's a big part of what the Spanish soccer league has been all about. Those racist abuses are heartbreaking and wrong.
Allegri was available until the other day and spurs did nothing. Now Max is off to Saudi for $25 million a season.
Juls jersey is fire af.
Gab, who do u think wins the Super Bowl? Hopefully not the Chiefs but i wouldnt bet on it tbh.
Why are these players not proactive? Every time i look at Amorin, he is on the touchline telling players which position to take up. Cant stand this Juls, always got a downer on United.
Well he is an Arsenal fan, so he is never going to miss an opportunity to dump on United.
Is Amoriim better than Ten Hag?
Ten Haag won 2 trophies in 2 yrs..
It's too early to say now but let's see how many trophies amorin wins after 3 more yrs at man UTD
I hope they don't sack him
Stop this, he came in midd season.. He didnt wamt to go in midd season for a reason. Changing a system midd season is really hard. And why on earth United wanted him midd season for then to not back him in the Januar window I really something I dont understand. Unitd must have one of the worst fotball owners in football, they are clueless.
The coach technical is poor very very poor in English football
They don't need to do very much except pick up there pay cheques . Not quiet the worst they were relegated on 5 occasions previously........... The whole club is rotten to the core. The Glaziers don't give two f'''ks, as long as they get their dividends. Radcliffe doesn't have a clue & is busy cutting costs to save a shilling, he could squander his entire fortune on this sorry mess of a club.
The same level of coach the same results 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
What good is a coach when the players suck because owners dont know who to buy or negotiate?
Cartoons wtha a lame Manager 😂
🎉 I'm here from Ghana and a city fan
Good match for Wednesday
A ccra city?
Man U players are mid table over rated trash. Fernandes biggest waste of money, Backline is a joke, Midfield full over mid table average players. Amad is the only standout player currently but even a standout Rashford couldn't change the club
PMSL Juls just wont admit Arsenal blew it again
Stupid argument about Manchester United again; those players simply are not good enough. Through them all out and bring bunch of youngsters with thirst and ambition.
Accept that and move on.
keep living in the past and this is what happens , they only have themselves to blame
Sell Fernandes Rashford mainoo zirkzee Hojlund Antony buy giddens gyokeres Douglas Luis I don’t like our players
That ant doing nothing
Amorim it’s not better than Moyes than solskjar than Erick tag so all of them are the same level.
Brighton didnt even play up to their potential and still coasted to a 3-1 win.
Juls is Amorim hater..
Juls's agenda against United is despicable.
But he is saying the Truth though! Look up the table if you don't believe him
He speaks facts and you can’t take it!