Supposedly one of my ancestors was living in that general area when French priests arrived. My ancestor was so happy to see them that he named the river "Riviere Des Peres." A self-published 'book' by Wm. F. Alden described that area's early settlement. The book is called "It Happened in Lemay" but it mentions Carondelet and how early settlers near Des Peres moved northward to Carondelet to escape flooding.
@julgriggs I may be entirely mistaken, but to my understanding, the area was uninhibited when the priests arrived in 1770, where the river De Pere empties into the Mississippi River. In 1764, Cheautoe and Laclede established a trading post that would become the city of St. louis . The French were expelled from Canada beginning in 1775 and for the next 20 years made their way down the Mississippi.
I have family history in Missouri/Kansas. The surname is Belisle. I found them on Family Search and My Heritage Library Edition. I'm pretty sure they came in the early 1800s for military assignment and stayed in Kansas City later.
I lived in that area . It could be part of Patch. Unlike other places called Patch, it was never an Irish neighborhood, but a French creole one. The name Patch was a mistranslation of the phrase for empty pockets in pawpaw French.
It was Baron de Carondelet who was the patron of the Catholic Church during the 18th century. At one time this covered all of Florida an the area of the Louisiana purchase.
@robertwaguespack9414 Standing in what once was the city of Carondelet, now a neighborhood of St. Louis is a monument that claims the name comes from the 1st Spanish Governor of Louisiana, not a Catholic saint.
@@Cat3rgrl I didn't say that he was a Catholic saint. I said that he was a patron, i.e. the person who fronted the money for the church. The first Spanish governor was Ulloa.
As a francophone from Québec and interessed in french history in America. This is gold, MERCI!
Supposedly one of my ancestors was living in that general area when French priests arrived. My ancestor was so happy to see them that he named the river "Riviere Des Peres." A self-published 'book' by Wm. F. Alden described that area's early settlement. The book is called "It Happened in Lemay" but it mentions Carondelet and how early settlers near Des Peres moved northward to Carondelet to escape flooding.
@julgriggs I may be entirely mistaken, but to my understanding, the area was uninhibited when the priests arrived in 1770, where the river De Pere empties into the Mississippi River. In 1764, Cheautoe and Laclede established a trading post that would become the city of St. louis . The French were expelled from Canada beginning in 1775 and for the next 20 years made their way down the Mississippi.
The Sisters of St Joseph, Carondelet had a large presence there. Probably have much historical info.
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St. Louis (and the state of Missouri) were part of the Louisiana Purchase, which the US government purchased from France.
River Des Peres is an ancestral channel of the Mississippi River.
@timpekarek9159 River De Pere starts within the city of St. louis .There is a spring.
I have family history in Missouri/Kansas. The surname is Belisle. I found them on Family Search and My Heritage Library Edition. I'm pretty sure they came in the early 1800s for military assignment and stayed in Kansas City later.
Carondelet today. Pronounced Carondelae by the French.
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I lived in that area . It could be part of Patch. Unlike other places called Patch, it was never an Irish neighborhood, but a French creole one. The name Patch was a mistranslation of the phrase for empty pockets in pawpaw French.
Very interesting!
It was Baron de Carondelet who was the patron of the Catholic Church during the 18th century. At one time this covered all of Florida an the area of the Louisiana purchase.
@robertwaguespack9414 Standing in what once was the city of Carondelet, now a neighborhood of St. Louis is a monument that claims the name comes from the 1st Spanish Governor of Louisiana, not a Catholic saint.
@@Cat3rgrl I didn't say that he was a Catholic saint. I said that he was a patron, i.e. the person who fronted the money for the church. The first Spanish governor was Ulloa.
@robertwaguespack9414 I apologize, I misread, entirely.