Powerlifting is like when dudes buy retro jordans. As much as you think its impressing women its really only impressing other men. Honestly only other women that powerlift or rock js appreciate it
Best answer. Don't do this for other people, do it for yourself and what your passionate about, whether you want to be strong as hell and squat 800 pounds or be insanely shredded and step on a bodybuilding stage.
So many people dont really know the difference between powerlifters and bodybuilders. They have completely different goals. Powerlifters lift for POWER. Bodybuilders lift to build their bodies. Pretty simple. Its really all preference. They both lift completely different as well. You dont see bodybuilders doing 1-2 rep lifts whereas its common for powerlifters to do that. Yes an actual bodybuilder is strong but not as powerful on the 3 big lifts as a powerlifter. And generally a bodybuilder will be more aesthetically pleasing to the eye then a powerlifter because thats the goal of a bodybuilder. 2 DIFFERENT GOALS. And no, a true bodybuilder doesnt lift for the women. If that were the case, they wouldnt last more then a few months in the gym. There has to be passion. Without passion, youre going nowhere, my 2 cents.
everyone (the vast majority) start out bodybuilding. and once they realize they need strength to become bigger. Ppl lean towards powerlifting. Almost like the best of both worlds imo. just saying
Really annoys me when people imply powerlifting doesn't build a good physique, squat Bench and deadlift build a lot of muscle, most Powerlifters will also row, front squat, jm press, oh press etc and doing all the accessories that help their lifts gives an all rounded physique, biceps may the only lagging muscle along with calfs but if you have good genetics for both they won't, if not rows will still grow your biceps and 3 sets a week of curls is more than enough for biceps and unless you're flexing you arm your arm will still look aesthetic from the triceps mass
The thing is the best physiques are built in the kitchen. Eat cleaner than Mr. Clean and you will have a good physique. The lifting portion does't affect the physique as much as a perfect diet will.
most women prefer looks over strength when LOOKING at a guy but when in a relationship i think they would prefer having a strong guy who is functional to the point they can protect them and looks matter less when the girl starts liking the guy for their personality, yet them being strong does matter to a point.
Being buff and muscular guarantees SOME strength, which is enough to impress any non lifter female you meet at starbucks. Whereas strength does not guarantee looks, because you can be strong as fuck and look like antman or be strong as fuck and look like shrek, there is not really a middle ground. Strength means shit all to the MAJORITY of women. Looks all day.
I have a bmi of 17.5, which is underweight. It is easy at this particular point in my training to look good, because of my low body fat, but I have a surprising lack of strength.
First of all. Her saying she's doesn't like a buff guy who can't lift more than 3 plates is complete bullshit lol second, I really don't understand how some idiots in powerlifting assume bodybuilders are weak lol most bodybuilders lift an IMPRESSIVE amount of weight. I also find powerlifting pointless IF your not into sports or competition. Who the fuck cares how strong you are if you look like shit, I want to look good. I'd much rather be jacked with the strength of Spider-Man, than fat with the strength of the hulk lol
Maybe shes telling the truth..maybe there are 3 or 4 other crazy women like her who think like that..its all good tho, because the other 3 billion could give a shit how many plates you can lock out...
here's whats up.. and why i think Bodybuilding is faaar superior to powerlifting. Ive only been training 7months tho.. but still. As a BB you can train for strength and aesthetics. So you can train strenght like powerlifters do but also focus on shaping your body. And you look a lot better doing it.. and i would think it req a lot more brain into BB to "sculp" or w/e the word is your body to your desire compared to just lifting 100kg more. While its hard.. its not a complicated journey. So.. i feel like, BB = Aesthetics + Strength = Look good and be strong (if you wanted too) PL = get stronger = get fatter usually? and as a BB.. i rly couldnt care less about weight. im squatting like 100lb? Still sore as fck from my workout yday and making gains daylee.
In my opinion, in order to make a video about what's better, you have to define what you mean by better: If by better, you mean what is more sexually attractive, then aesthetics takes the win, unless perhaps the people judging your sexual attractiveness are also taking into account your ability to lift heavy.. which tips the scale back the other way. Similarly, overall "impressiveness" is subject to the same variables; it depends on who's being impressed, and what their taste/preference is. When I take my own judgement into consideration, I see someone with a stronger strength ceiling "better" than someone with a visually more appealing physique, but then again I am a regular gym goer and I have a much different opinion than a lot of people who don't lift themselves, and thus have a different perspective. In a strength competition, strength is better. In a modeling competition, looks is better. So, in the end, it all depends on individual aspirations and motivations. end rant p.s. just because you have a bigger following doesn't make you better. Point in case: 56 million people like mcdonald's on facebook, but just because they have a bigger following doesn't mean they have greater culinary skills than you or I.
Cardio is not bullshit. Running fast and long is super cool! But one of my problems is that I have no idea what I want to look like.. so I jsut do a lot of different stuff, but idk.. I find lifting weights a little boring? I want to be able to do things, run fast, dunk, be flexible, take flips, be able to jump high and control my body and just be able to throw it around. I want to be strong too of course, it would be awesome to be strong, but I actually don't want to look big at all. That is also the main reason I don't like lifting too much weights and that is also why I stopped lifting for some time.. But that's probably just me, most people don't get it when I say I really don't want to look big at all or have that masculine-look..
+Aadibass Totally get you. I like to aim at a mix of weight lifting and plyometrics. That way, I get as much of each disciplines 'cause you know, theres diminishing return everywhere. If I were to stick to only weightlifting, I'd eventually become slow and if I focused on plyos only, Id lack muscle mass (but not CNS).
i want to be strong enough to fight a bear, fast enough to outrun gorilla, agile enough to climb mountains. i want that "supersoilder captain america" build, but i'm here eating a box of pizza while watching this video.
I agree with u guys! Im traning for strenght and people ask me all the time if i even workout. i go to the gym and lift harder than the "big" guys. I even exercise more than them, but i dont care about appearance ;) as long as i can go and max out more than the guys around me im happy (y)
I want to be aesthetic and strong as hell. Not just strong but athletic. The moment aesthetics or size gets in the way of my athleticism, that's when I'll dial it back.
Everyone has their own preference. Some people love hitting high numbers, some people want to look shredded. Personally i dont give a fuck about how good you look. I care about numbers.
Looks gets the most attention of the masses and it's an instant eye catcher... then again I guess you could walk around with something impressively heavy lol. Also, when it comes to esthetics, for most ladies, I hear it's not ideal to get too big since it can be subconsciously threatening/ intimidating *just sayin'*. I personally always respect ability more than anything though.
I think the big difference in aesthetics and strength is why you're doing it. Do you want to look good (hopefully for yourself and not for others) or do you just want to lift heavy just for the sake of achieving it (without caring about the aesthetic results)? I personally do a little of both, because I workout in part to look good. But other times I just want to lift some heavy shit off the floor, and make it heavier and heavier safely over time. I don't want to be some huge bulky ass bodybuilder who can't fit through a fucking door and has to eat 23497 chicken breasts a day just to maintain his weight. I just want to look good, feel strong, and crush some fucking weights in the gym. Yeah training for strength might not give you the size and looks that bodybuilding does, but nobody can say people who train strength and keep their diet in check/do some cardio won't look good too.
Why should you only have to choose one! I like having both! I like being able to bench 1.8 times my bw, 2.0 times my squat, and 2.5 times my bw on the deadlift while still having abs! Why should you sacrifice looks for strength? Both can be acquired simultaneously with proper programming
I love how they playfully bash on each other as friends about their lifts. This is my new favorite series....much better than those long boring ass fitness podcasts. This is like JKNews for fitness. Keep it coming.
Just about to watch this. First things first, i've had huge changes in my appearance throughout my life and looks get noticed. But i'm fat now haha, lifting BIG weights at gym though. Benched 180kg last night. Have turned a few heads. But that only happens while i'm lifting. Otherwise they have no idea.
There are many ways to express strength through various movements. The barbell is but one way. However for aesthetics there's only 1 medium through which to do this - from how to the human body looks rather than how it performs. Perhaps if you broaden the discussion of strength to 'performance' instead, there might be a case for performance winning against aesthetics.
Neither one is more "important" than another. EVERYBODY has their own opinions and priorities so there is no and never will be a conclusive single answer. Also I personally do not agree with the saying that "there are no weak bodybuilders and there are no small powerlifters". You most definitely CAN train each "sport" (lol) exclusively (and therefore reap results accordingly) even though that is not the most optimal training method. At the end of the day, both are just for vanity wether you want to admit it or not. Actually this is all things fitness related e.g. I want to look attractive, I want to lift the heaviest weight, I want to run the fastest, jump the highest. Whatever. Who cares about who wants to do what just let them do it. Better than everybody playing CoD on their Xbox eating Doritos and jacking off all day.
Hit the compound ( Deadlift,squat,bench press) for strenght (3-5 rep range). get strong. And finish with some bodybuilding movements, Fly's, side raise, rows etc. U will get strong and Aesthetics ;)
I would say aesthetics is more popular but being stronger is more practical therefore it is better. What is popular isn't always what is better and I would say when something gains popularity that is through a mass of lack of knowledge than of knowledge. The more you know something the less popular your choices will slowly become compared to the masses.
Hey guys, ever heard of the Olympics? It emphasized strength, endurance, and aesthetics. Now-a-days its more of a joke, but the Olympics from the golden days included movements similar to modern power lifting; but they also placed great emphasis on aesthetics. With the perfect genetics, dedication, and rest, this two fields can join together.
Also, anyone who is big as shit is also probably strong as shit. Everyone wants to say "big muscles don't mean big weight." Which is not true. Bigger muscles move bigger weights. Yes, people who are smaller might be stronger than you, but generally speaking, bigger muscles are stronger. Bodybuilders are usually strong as fuck.
Tommy Touhghnuts it's true. All the big guys are stronger than the average man. I love that burn and pain and nutrition. Powerlifting seems so pointless to me unless you're doing it for a school or something. Also, you're going to go to snap city someday in powerlifting
David Sourdis you mad? at least elaborate if you're going to call it the worse and most stupid comment on youtube. you can come up with a better insult with that can't you? fail
I’m just starting powerlifting but I usually do lots of cardio after my workouts, honestly I don’t think women care about how much weight you can push pull. I think aesthetics are much more appealing, I’m sorta cutting weight, I definitely eat less but i eat a majority of carbs and protein for muscle growth and development.
I think this video should've been about skinny guys vs muscly guys if that makes sense. As in someone who goes to gym to get aesthetics and just that vs someone who goes beyond that and goes to the gym regularly, tries to beat his pr and cares about aesthetics but wants more because they want to be strong.
Both are important but you gotta be careful not to pit the two against each other or use one as an excuse for the other. For example, a powerlifter making fun of an "aesthetic" guy for not squatting as much as him or the aesthetic guy saying the powerlifter is fat/looks like shit. Just respect that each individual person will put more emphasis in one area over the other (At different times in their lifting "careers" potentially) but there is no better/right answer.
A bigger muscle does physiologically have the potential to produce more strenght. But the way that strength is tested in one muscle is through isokinetic movements. But strength is more how much force you can produce efficiently (through the body's kinematic chain) but power is strength applied quickly. But just because someone has big muscles does not mean they are capable of the main power movements, bench press, overhead press, deadlift and squat, by default. It all has to do with how ones body is balanced, muscle wise and how they work together to produce the force required, quickly and efficiently through the kinematic chain.
The only time strength matters is the hour or 2 at the gym, other than that unless you are lifting cars on the street it doesn't matter how much you bench or squat. I say looks overall.
what it really comes down to is about what's most important to you. Don't let others tell you which is better. You define what has value to your life. what you work hard on should should reflect those values. I realize there are a lot of elitist meatheads will fall heavily into either or (looks are strength) and will look down on others for not being on their level. It's rather sad that we're so quick to criticize others. power lifters calling body builders pussies, and vice versa. Do people do this because they're insecure about what they're lacking? Do what's important to you instead of doing what's others define as important. me personally, I don't care much about looks (despite having a muscular physique), I care more about functional strength just for the sake of my ability in MMA.
I personally think it's not about how much you can lift.. but how much you LOOK like you can lift. They go hand in hand.. if one week your benching 150.. and the next your hitting 185. the muscle has no choice but to adapt and get stronger making it bigger and more aesthetic. Thats not so say some guys are just gifted and can get away with smaller weight and looking amazing doing it.. I would consider myself this type of lifter. Not by choice.. I want to rep 225 or 315 as much as the next guy lol they are goals.. but im milking every jump up for everything its worth!
The only people who give a crap about how much weight you lift are other power lifters. The other 99 percent of the population only sees and cares about appearance. There's nothing wrong with either one but there is absolutely no contest. Very very few people even know what a deadlift or a squat are, let alone give a damn about it.
If I had to pick one or the other I'd probably go for aesthetics. Despite almost solely focusing on Powerlifting and bulking as I continue to get stronger I will begin to place more and more emphasis on refining myself. At the end of the day I'm not a world class competitor and if you're not vying to be one the best why would you negatively impact your life. If you lift huge amounts of weight, look like it. When I'm trying to total 900 or 1000 I'll consider being U140 or SHW but until then, I'll continue coming down in BW and try and get as lean and healthy as I can while competing in powerlifting. Currently competing in 125kg when I really don't need to be isn't good for me. There are plenty of guys in the lighter weight classes who are out lifting me so if they can do it at that bw, why can't I? If I ever want to be a top class competitor I need to start being the heaviest I can be in the lightest class reasonably possible!
If your question is about "What does the majority prefer", i think, but it should be proved, that looks is better for most people, but because of they think that look big = be strong. But if they discover that it's not the case, i can't tell if those people would change their mind or not. But all that i said, it's not very "scientific", what doesn't mean that it's not true. But it's not the place here to talk about science, opinions, fellings etc, and i don't speak englih enough good to talk about this. In fact, what i wanted to say, it's not about "what i think people think" but about giving my opinion, which i think is more than a personal opinion. I think nobody is "strong". You are strong at deadlifting, or you are strong at weightlifting, ou you are strong at running, or you are strong at sprinting, your are strong at enduring pain, you are strong at boxing, etc. So i don’t see the interest of feeling superior by lifting hard weights instead of growing big muscles. Because even if you lift weights, maybe at boxing you’re not very good. And if you’re good at boxing, you can’t do much about a kick in the balls, a finger in the eyes, or a bullet. There is no « Alpha » for me. Every human can be beaten or killed, so for me, the real « strength » is to « adapt » to your oponent, and use any means to achieve your goal if your goal is to kill. There can’t be no « fair play » because even if we all have to follow the same rules, we’re not all as good adapted to those rules. I would have much more to say about the « strenght » and about « being the strongest at something », but it’s late and i notice that it’s quite hard for me to explain my ideas in english. I hope that my message didn’t seemed aggressive, i found it looked like sometimes so i tried to change my sentences, but i’m not sure i’ve succeeded. Anyway, if it looks like an attack, it’s not the case.
It goes kinda hand in hand i want to look good so I work out while pursuing the look the strength comes with it I've never had a problem with strength so it not that big a deal
What are you talking about. Bradley Martin is a huge and strong guy. It goes hand in hand in my opinion. I still think that Bradley is strong and that is why he has a big following.
Geo has a point with the masses being dumb. They look at aesthetics alot. I'd rather be able to do something than look like I'm able to do something. What's funny is when people doing it for looks and think it's ability.
I'd say 95% go for looks. Don't have any friend that goes for strength. I go for strength though. Bulking as soon as my (very, very long, Holy shit it's long) cut phase is over.
Guys I have a question, I'm a wrestler and I want to start lifting again since I am recovering from a dislocated collarbone. Anyways are there any ways that I can lift weights and gain strength without getting too much mass?
You can be both you just have to take your time with the strength and not want it all in one day, Aesthetics and muscle come with what ever weight your lifting as long as you do it properly with proper form and technique, Also it depends of your definition of strength, is it someone who can squat 500lbs grinding it to fuck with shitty form and a shit physique or is it the guy squatting 380-400lbs with prefect form and an awesome physique, i know witch one i am and witch one i'd prefer to be, I'de much rather have my 30inch quads than be able to squat more and not have them that's for sure!
Strength matters in powerlifting but not as much in bodybuilding, two different worlds, not to say bodybuilders don't lift heavy. Most don't practice day in and out for a one rep max in three set moves. People are attracted to the persons physique at first sight though. I don't know any guy who checks out a girl and wonders how much she can glute thrust.
BUT WHY NOT JUST BE JACKED AND STRONG AT THE SAME TIME?
Athletic Aesthetics #plz OmarIsuf
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YOURE ON GEAR OMAR SHUT UP. ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE LEAN AND STRONG JUST ASK ANY TH-camR THEYLL TELL YOU YOURE A FUCKBOY LIAR. .....JK
Omar over everything! #strong #shredded #powerranger #thepinkone #manly
aBigGrizzlyBear You stupid
Powerlifting is like when dudes buy retro jordans. As much as you think its impressing women its really only impressing other men. Honestly only other women that powerlift or rock js appreciate it
+ers1320 i will use this one bro, thanks.
why do you have to impress anyone? do it for yourself.
good analogy and true.
@@brock1120 lol good luck staying consistent with that mentality
Dom Mazzetti is bigger than Bradley Martin
Wrong channel
Dom is bigger than everyone
+Harambe Piana your name cuz 😂😂
Harambe Piana my dick is bigger
What's better? Whatever YOU want not others.
+sirroxalot That's a good answer, right there.
Best answer. Don't do this for other people, do it for yourself and what your passionate about, whether you want to be strong as hell and squat 800 pounds or be insanely shredded and step on a bodybuilding stage.
"Do Whatever the FUCK you wanna do!" - Keith Hodge
Absolamb Salmon You're welcome :).
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strength? looks? wat? I just want to crush my enemies and see them driven before me while hearing the lamentations of their women
This!!
Martial arts bro, weapons bro! That is all you need in life!
displayname don't forget the trilby
Keto Evangelist yeah man. The weaklings must suffer.
netfischer weakness is suffering
So many people dont really know the difference between powerlifters and bodybuilders. They have completely different goals. Powerlifters lift for POWER. Bodybuilders lift to build their bodies. Pretty simple. Its really all preference. They both lift completely different as well. You dont see bodybuilders doing 1-2 rep lifts whereas its common for powerlifters to do that. Yes an actual bodybuilder is strong but not as powerful on the 3 big lifts as a powerlifter. And generally a bodybuilder will be more aesthetically pleasing to the eye then a powerlifter because thats the goal of a bodybuilder. 2 DIFFERENT GOALS. And no, a true bodybuilder doesnt lift for the women. If that were the case, they wouldnt last more then a few months in the gym. There has to be passion. Without passion, youre going nowhere, my 2 cents.
everyone (the vast majority) start out bodybuilding. and once they realize they need strength to become bigger. Ppl lean towards powerlifting. Almost like the best of both worlds imo. just saying
Really annoys me when people imply powerlifting doesn't build a good physique, squat Bench and deadlift build a lot of muscle, most Powerlifters will also row, front squat, jm press, oh press etc and doing all the accessories that help their lifts gives an all rounded physique, biceps may the only lagging muscle along with calfs but if you have good genetics for both they won't, if not rows will still grow your biceps and 3 sets a week of curls is more than enough for biceps and unless you're flexing you arm your arm will still look aesthetic from the triceps mass
^^ what he said
I think upper chest lags as well in powerlifting, but yes I do agree with you that powerlifting definitely builds good physiques completely.
*****
olympic lifting builds the most complete physique, without actually intending to be aesthetic
true that
The thing is the best physiques are built in the kitchen. Eat cleaner than Mr. Clean and you will have a good physique. The lifting portion does't affect the physique as much as a perfect diet will.
Golden age of barbell brigade
Back when it was good
most women prefer looks over strength when LOOKING at a guy but when in a relationship i think they would prefer having a strong guy who is functional to the point they can protect them and looks matter less when the girl starts liking the guy for their personality, yet them being strong does matter to a point.
Enter "powerbuilding"
Fuck aesthetics just become the best athlete you can be and if you look good also then thats a wicked bonus.
Being buff and muscular guarantees SOME strength, which is enough to impress any non lifter female you meet at starbucks. Whereas strength does not guarantee looks, because you can be strong as fuck and look like antman or be strong as fuck and look like shrek, there is not really a middle ground. Strength means shit all to the MAJORITY of women. Looks all day.
do whatever the FUCK you wanna do!!!
Man, they give poor Lu so much shit on these segments.
Jokessss
Geo i'm getting so pissed, i love you but LISTEN TO OTHERS GIRL DAMN
Agreed
me too. i respect her but she just keeps stopping that guy saying i feel n think.. so he can't do sth out of feelings? wtf
Keep the videos coming!!! Really enjoy them!
Alex and lu need a TH-cam channel together!
I miss these bbb shows :((((( the music this group and Bart. Bring the old shows backkkkkkk!!!!!
I have a bmi of 17.5, which is underweight. It is easy at this particular point in my training to look good, because of my low body fat, but I have a surprising lack of strength.
First of all. Her saying she's doesn't like a buff guy who can't lift more than 3 plates is complete bullshit lol second, I really don't understand how some idiots in powerlifting assume bodybuilders are weak lol most bodybuilders lift an IMPRESSIVE amount of weight. I also find powerlifting pointless IF your not into sports or competition. Who the fuck cares how strong you are if you look like shit, I want to look good. I'd much rather be jacked with the strength of Spider-Man, than fat with the strength of the hulk lol
ulisses jr squats 5 plates calm
Maybe shes telling the truth..maybe there are 3 or 4 other crazy women like her who think like that..its all good tho, because the other 3 billion could give a shit how many plates you can lock out...
She knows deep down that she's way more attracted to aesthetics. She's just saying otherwise so she doesn't come off as your typical girly girl.
lolol Realest comment ever
here's whats up.. and why i think Bodybuilding is faaar superior to powerlifting. Ive only been training 7months tho.. but still. As a BB you can train for strength and aesthetics. So you can train strenght like powerlifters do but also focus on shaping your body. And you look a lot better doing it.. and i would think it req a lot more brain into BB to "sculp" or w/e the word is your body to your desire compared to just lifting 100kg more. While its hard.. its not a complicated journey.
So.. i feel like, BB = Aesthetics + Strength = Look good and be strong (if you wanted too)
PL = get stronger = get fatter usually?
and as a BB.. i rly couldnt care less about weight. im squatting like 100lb? Still sore as fck from my workout yday and making gains daylee.
In my opinion, in order to make a video about what's better, you have to define what you mean by better:
If by better, you mean what is more sexually attractive, then aesthetics takes the win, unless perhaps the people judging your sexual attractiveness are also taking into account your ability to lift heavy.. which tips the scale back the other way. Similarly, overall "impressiveness" is subject to the same variables; it depends on who's being impressed, and what their taste/preference is.
When I take my own judgement into consideration, I see someone with a stronger strength ceiling "better" than someone with a visually more appealing physique, but then again I am a regular gym goer and I have a much different opinion than a lot of people who don't lift themselves, and thus have a different perspective.
In a strength competition, strength is better. In a modeling competition, looks is better.
So, in the end, it all depends on individual aspirations and motivations.
end rant
p.s. just because you have a bigger following doesn't make you better. Point in case: 56 million people like mcdonald's on facebook, but just because they have a bigger following doesn't mean they have greater culinary skills than you or I.
Cardio is not bullshit.
Running fast and long is super cool! But one of my problems is that I have no idea what I want to look like.. so I jsut do a lot of different stuff, but idk.. I find lifting weights a little boring?
I want to be able to do things, run fast, dunk, be flexible, take flips, be able to jump high and control my body and just be able to throw it around. I want to be strong too of course, it would be awesome to be strong, but I actually don't want to look big at all. That is also the main reason I don't like lifting too much weights and that is also why I stopped lifting for some time..
But that's probably just me, most people don't get it when I say I really don't want to look big at all or have that masculine-look..
+Aadibass Totally get you. I like to aim at a mix of weight lifting and plyometrics. That way, I get as much of each disciplines 'cause you know, theres diminishing return everywhere. If I were to stick to only weightlifting, I'd eventually become slow and if I focused on plyos only, Id lack muscle mass (but not CNS).
Feras Boulala what is CNS?
Central nervous system. Thats what make you fire up your legs to run faster, extend knees to jump higher and controls all limb coordination
Feras Boulala oooh ahaaa
You need strength and power to be able to do what you want. Plyometrics by themselves aren't good enough. Strength x speed = power.
aesthetics over everything
Agree
pussy
Who cares about strength? I do care about how I look not about how much I can bench
Doug Yeah...
money over aesthetics
Lu needs to make his own channel, he is too funny!
You guys seriously need a better microphone, that echo is horrible to listen to...
I'm in the library rn, and i cracked tf up once alex did geo's benching impression LOL
i want to be strong enough to fight a bear, fast enough to outrun gorilla, agile enough to climb mountains. i want that "supersoilder captain america" build, but i'm here eating a box of pizza while watching this video.
then dont...lol
srJimineee yo i just finished eating a pizza while watching these vids LOL
Who says a box of pizza?
x3NGL4NDx somebody without cutlery
Can U guys talk about ur opinion on STRETCH MARKS!! That would be great, much love peace!
Bring this bb talk show team back, please!!!
I agree with u guys! Im traning for strenght and people ask me all the time if i even workout. i go to the gym and lift harder than the "big" guys. I even exercise more than them, but i dont care about appearance ;) as long as i can go and max out more than the guys around me im happy (y)
I want to be aesthetic and strong as hell. Not just strong but athletic. The moment aesthetics or size gets in the way of my athleticism, that's when I'll dial it back.
Everyone has their own preference. Some people love hitting high numbers, some people want to look shredded. Personally i dont give a fuck about how good you look. I care about numbers.
Geo and alex are fuckin hatersss cuz Lu had a point this whole video
+Rehan Khan Exactly
lu is a moron
Alex throws hella shade..... (David's voice) I LOVE IT
the room has too much of an echo
Audio is a bit off :/
Yo lu. What kind of haircut do you get around the side and what kind of pomade do you use?
Looks gets the most attention of the masses and it's an instant eye catcher... then again I guess you could walk around with something impressively heavy lol. Also, when it comes to esthetics, for most ladies, I hear it's not ideal to get too big since it can be subconsciously threatening/ intimidating *just sayin'*. I personally always respect ability more than anything though.
I think the big difference in aesthetics and strength is why you're doing it. Do you want to look good (hopefully for yourself and not for others) or do you just want to lift heavy just for the sake of achieving it (without caring about the aesthetic results)? I personally do a little of both, because I workout in part to look good. But other times I just want to lift some heavy shit off the floor, and make it heavier and heavier safely over time. I don't want to be some huge bulky ass bodybuilder who can't fit through a fucking door and has to eat 23497 chicken breasts a day just to maintain his weight. I just want to look good, feel strong, and crush some fucking weights in the gym. Yeah training for strength might not give you the size and looks that bodybuilding does, but nobody can say people who train strength and keep their diet in check/do some cardio won't look good too.
Why should you only have to choose one! I like having both! I like being able to bench 1.8 times my bw, 2.0 times my squat, and 2.5 times my bw on the deadlift while still having abs! Why should you sacrifice looks for strength? Both can be acquired simultaneously with proper programming
I love how they playfully bash on each other as friends about their lifts. This is my new favorite series....much better than those long boring ass fitness podcasts. This is like JKNews for fitness. Keep it coming.
Just about to watch this.
First things first, i've had huge changes in my appearance throughout my life and looks get noticed.
But i'm fat now haha, lifting BIG weights at gym though. Benched 180kg last night. Have turned a few heads. But that only happens while i'm lifting. Otherwise they have no idea.
Don't feel like there's a better side. It's all personal preferences.
There are many ways to express strength through various movements. The barbell is but one way. However for aesthetics there's only 1 medium through which to do this - from how to the human body looks rather than how it performs. Perhaps if you broaden the discussion of strength to 'performance' instead, there might be a case for performance winning against aesthetics.
I think a lot of people now like a body that is aesthetically pleasing, and also the strength to back it up.
I have such a big crush for Lu, he seems like a nice person :)
Alex is on that GH. His head has gotten pretty big.
asking the real questions!
Saying Dan Green looks "decent" is one of the biggest understatements I have ever heard...
Not really dudes really big it isn't the best look to chicks
LU! you a gentle g
Neither one is more "important" than another. EVERYBODY has their own opinions and priorities so there is no and never will be a conclusive single answer.
Also I personally do not agree with the saying that "there are no weak bodybuilders and there are no small powerlifters". You most definitely CAN train each "sport" (lol) exclusively (and therefore reap results accordingly) even though that is not the most optimal training method.
At the end of the day, both are just for vanity wether you want to admit it or not. Actually this is all things fitness related e.g. I want to look attractive, I want to lift the heaviest weight, I want to run the fastest, jump the highest. Whatever. Who cares about who wants to do what just let them do it. Better than everybody playing CoD on their Xbox eating Doritos and jacking off all day.
She makes your videos so much funnier ! Haha
lmfao I freaking love Geo
Power is beauty.
Hit the compound ( Deadlift,squat,bench press) for strenght (3-5 rep range). get strong.
And finish with some bodybuilding movements, Fly's, side raise, rows etc.
U will get strong and Aesthetics ;)
I would say aesthetics is more popular but being stronger is more practical therefore it is better. What is popular isn't always what is better and I would say when something gains popularity that is through a mass of lack of knowledge than of knowledge. The more you know something the less popular your choices will slowly become compared to the masses.
Hey guys, ever heard of the Olympics? It emphasized strength, endurance, and aesthetics. Now-a-days its more of a joke, but the Olympics from the golden days included movements similar to modern power lifting; but they also placed great emphasis on aesthetics. With the perfect genetics, dedication, and rest, this two fields can join together.
Also, anyone who is big as shit is also probably strong as shit. Everyone wants to say "big muscles don't mean big weight." Which is not true. Bigger muscles move bigger weights. Yes, people who are smaller might be stronger than you, but generally speaking, bigger muscles are stronger. Bodybuilders are usually strong as fuck.
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Tommy Touhghnuts it's true. All the big guys are stronger than the average man. I love that burn and pain and nutrition. Powerlifting seems so pointless to me unless you're doing it for a school or something. Also, you're going to go to snap city someday in powerlifting
Yipyo1986 worst and most stupid comment on youtube
Lol having muscles and having strength are two differentthings
David Sourdis you mad? at least elaborate if you're going to call it the worse and most stupid comment on youtube. you can come up with a better insult with that can't you? fail
I love when Lu gets frustrated hahahaha
I’m just starting powerlifting but I usually do lots of cardio after my workouts, honestly I don’t think women care about how much weight you can push pull. I think aesthetics are much more appealing, I’m sorta cutting weight, I definitely eat less but i eat a majority of carbs and protein for muscle growth and development.
I think this video should've been about skinny guys vs muscly guys if that makes sense. As in someone who goes to gym to get aesthetics and just that vs someone who goes beyond that and goes to the gym regularly, tries to beat his pr and cares about aesthetics but wants more because they want to be strong.
Both are important but you gotta be careful not to pit the two against each other or use one as an excuse for the other. For example, a powerlifter making fun of an "aesthetic" guy for not squatting as much as him or the aesthetic guy saying the powerlifter is fat/looks like shit. Just respect that each individual person will put more emphasis in one area over the other (At different times in their lifting "careers" potentially) but there is no better/right answer.
A bigger muscle does physiologically have the potential to produce more strenght. But the way that strength is tested in one muscle is through isokinetic movements. But strength is more how much force you can produce efficiently (through the body's kinematic chain) but power is strength applied quickly. But just because someone has big muscles does not mean they are capable of the main power movements, bench press, overhead press, deadlift and squat, by default. It all has to do with how ones body is balanced, muscle wise and how they work together to produce the force required, quickly and efficiently through the kinematic chain.
The only time strength matters is the hour or 2 at the gym, other than that unless you are lifting cars on the street it doesn't matter how much you bench or squat. I say looks overall.
Strength? Looks? pfft. Obviously it's all about the power level! IT'S OVER 9000!!!!
We need more ladies like Geo. **thumbs up***
what it really comes down to is about what's most important to you. Don't let others tell you which is better. You define what has value to your life. what you work hard on should should reflect those values.
I realize there are a lot of elitist meatheads will fall heavily into either or (looks are strength) and will look down on others for not being on their level. It's rather sad that we're so quick to criticize others. power lifters calling body builders pussies, and vice versa. Do people do this because they're insecure about what they're lacking?
Do what's important to you instead of doing what's others define as important.
me personally, I don't care much about looks (despite having a muscular physique), I care more about functional strength just for the sake of my ability in MMA.
I personally think it's not about how much you can lift.. but how much you LOOK like you can lift. They go hand in hand.. if one week your benching 150.. and the next your hitting 185. the muscle has no choice but to adapt and get stronger making it bigger and more aesthetic. Thats not so say some guys are just gifted and can get away with smaller weight and looking amazing doing it.. I would consider myself this type of lifter. Not by choice.. I want to rep 225 or 315 as much as the next guy lol they are goals.. but im milking every jump up for everything its worth!
The only people who give a crap about how much weight you lift are other power lifters. The other 99 percent of the population only sees and cares about appearance. There's nothing wrong with either one but there is absolutely no contest. Very very few people even know what a deadlift or a squat are, let alone give a damn about it.
Power trumps all
lol I just found this channel and its awesome!
If I had to pick one or the other I'd probably go for aesthetics. Despite almost solely focusing on Powerlifting and bulking as I continue to get stronger I will begin to place more and more emphasis on refining myself. At the end of the day I'm not a world class competitor and if you're not vying to be one the best why would you negatively impact your life. If you lift huge amounts of weight, look like it. When I'm trying to total 900 or 1000 I'll consider being U140 or SHW but until then, I'll continue coming down in BW and try and get as lean and healthy as I can while competing in powerlifting.
Currently competing in 125kg when I really don't need to be isn't good for me. There are plenty of guys in the lighter weight classes who are out lifting me so if they can do it at that bw, why can't I? If I ever want to be a top class competitor I need to start being the heaviest I can be in the lightest class reasonably possible!
sick video and powerlifting is on the rise
If your question is about "What does the majority prefer", i think, but it should be proved, that looks is better for most people, but because of they think that look big = be strong. But if they discover that it's not the case, i can't tell if those people would change their mind or not.
But all that i said, it's not very "scientific", what doesn't mean that it's not true. But it's not the place here to talk about science, opinions, fellings etc, and i don't speak englih enough good to talk about this.
In fact, what i wanted to say, it's not about "what i think people think" but about giving my opinion, which i think is more than a personal opinion.
I think nobody is "strong". You are strong at deadlifting, or you are strong at weightlifting, ou you are strong at running, or you are strong at sprinting, your are strong at enduring pain, you are strong at boxing, etc. So i don’t see the interest of feeling superior by lifting hard weights instead of growing big muscles. Because even if you lift weights, maybe at boxing you’re not very good. And if you’re good at boxing, you can’t do much about a kick in the balls, a finger in the eyes, or a bullet. There is no « Alpha » for me. Every human can be beaten or killed, so for me, the real « strength » is to « adapt » to your oponent, and use any means to achieve your goal if your goal is to kill. There can’t be no « fair play » because even if we all have to follow the same rules, we’re not all as good adapted to those rules. I would have much more to say about the « strenght » and about « being the strongest at something », but it’s late and i notice that it’s quite hard for me to explain my ideas in english.
I hope that my message didn’t seemed aggressive, i found it looked like sometimes so i tried to change my sentences, but i’m not sure i’ve succeeded. Anyway, if it looks like an attack, it’s not the case.
Whats the background music
Bodybuilding is an art...
Grey sweatshirt dude = STUD!
"Breakups make bodybuilders."
Basically. My girl moved to Kansas a year ago and I haven't left the gym since.
She's laying in on this one!
Average person appreciates aesthetics more, average lifter appreciated powerlifting more
power-bodybulding! lift heavy shit and look good doing it.
It goes kinda hand in hand i want to look good so I work out while pursuing the look the strength comes with it I've never had a problem with strength so it not that big a deal
I'm not very strong yet but I also agree with Geo. I silently judge people who can't squat 2-3 plates full depth when they look like they bench 405.
What are you talking about. Bradley Martin is a huge and strong guy. It goes hand in hand in my opinion. I still think that Bradley is strong and that is why he has a big following.
do these guys know anything about maxx chewning?
Geo has a point with the masses being dumb. They look at aesthetics alot. I'd rather be able to do something than look like I'm able to do something. What's funny is when people doing it for looks and think it's ability.
Is that the gym Dom Mazzetti Aka Arnold use?
jacob drachmann yes!
Why not power build? Basically focus on everything rather than just one type of training style.
I'd say 95% go for looks. Don't have any friend that goes for strength. I go for strength though. Bulking as soon as my (very, very long, Holy shit it's long) cut phase is over.
aesthetics win every time.
Guys I have a question, I'm a wrestler and I want to start lifting again since I am recovering from a dislocated collarbone. Anyways are there any ways that I can lift weights and gain strength without getting too much mass?
mass/size is diet-induced. you can get stronger without getting bigger by keeping your caloric intake at maintenance levels.
lu got ripped on in this episode lmao
your size should represent your strength, if you are big and buff, then you should be able to back up your looks.
or just bulk up by doing med/high weights for high reps
You can be both you just have to take your time with the strength and not want it all in one day, Aesthetics and muscle come with what ever weight your lifting as long as you do it properly with proper form and technique, Also it depends of your definition of strength, is it someone who can squat 500lbs grinding it to fuck with shitty form and a shit physique or is it the guy squatting 380-400lbs with prefect form and an awesome physique, i know witch one i am and witch one i'd prefer to be, I'de much rather have my 30inch quads than be able to squat more and not have them that's for sure!
Alex has me dying lmao
Strength matters in powerlifting but not as much in bodybuilding, two different worlds, not to say bodybuilders don't lift heavy. Most don't practice day in and out for a one rep max in three set moves. People are attracted to the persons physique at first sight though. I don't know any guy who checks out a girl and wonders how much she can glute thrust.
Bradley Martin may focus on aesthetics and is a body builder, but he's also strong as fuck
Lu is funny as hell :D
Increasing size increases your strength potential plus you'd be aesthetic
ill never get these 10min back