John MacArthur: The Problem of Evil
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2015
- This message will focus on one of the most pressing challenges to Christianity, the problem of evil.
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Thankyou Jesus for John MacArthur
I’m so thankful for pastors like John McArthur who will not minimize God for the comfort of man.
Every Christian needs this message. We all need to answer the question as the world is hung up on it and entire denominations are hung up on it.
The unmistakable difference between sound biblical study, and a lifetime of plumbing the depths of God’s Word, verses sugar coated watered down compromised feel good easy believe’ism rhetoric…is so refreshing. Thank you John MacArthur and thank you Ligonier. Praise be to God Almighty.
No difference at all, its all bronze-age garbage.
I asked this question years ago. And one day I was surfing at four seasons in Kona and I couldn't paddle out from the inlet I was in. I got off my board certain my leash was caught on the rocks but it was free. So I just kept digging as hard as I could and explaining to God that I was sorry but he was guilty of allowing evil and there was no way around it.
It was a full twenty minutes that, apparently, The Lord has a hold of my leash and I went nowhere. Them this long boarder saw me and asked if I was in trouble so, I told him what has been happening and he said try follow me, brah... And I followed him straight out to the break in the exact same path I wasn't able to moments earlier. But by then it was all blown out, so I caught a wave or two and went in. Then I heard a live report on the radio as I was just leaving four seasons from a rescue helicopter saying, two twelve foot tiger sharks that had been spotted in prey stalking movements not a hundred feet from two surfers at the south end of the break (that would be me and the long boarder), but that we had all paddled in and they closed the beach.
Suddenly, it dawned on me that I may just have been spared from becoming brunch for Tigger and Sharek...
So, all of the sudden, I was listening...
And The Lord answered all of my fears by simply saying
"I do not allow evil to run rampant.
And I will eradicate evil completely. But if I was to completely eradicate it, now, them every unsaved soul would have to perish, today..."
That was all I needed to hear to realize, regardless of how thorough I believe I have thought something through, there could be something I have not thought of.
In fact, it's most likely there's plenty I don't comprehend.
So, for me, I have learned I can totally trust The Lord with the things I don't fully grasp, and know, when all is revealed, my faith will be the wisest thing I could have done.
Wow… thats so powerful, praise Jesus
@@sleppynoggin8808 Crazy, I know, but true story, CoG! One of the strangest things I've ever had happen.
Amen lederreredy AMEN I COULD EXHAUST THIS PAGE TELLING ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THE LORD HAS DONE FOR ME. I did not understand why he did things the way did at times and now I don't have to understand EVERYTHING THIS IS WHY HE TOLD ME TO TRUST HIM AND LEAN NOT TO MY OWN UNDERSTANDING.
@@estherkeeling777 The day I began to suspect that The Lord might be calling me, my life was a mess. I realized the key things that were dragging me down, so I decided to walk away from them. And I did it. At the time, I had no reason to assume I was getting help from God, I just figured I had had enough of the consequences. But, in hindsight, I'm sure The Lord was preparing me to commit my heart to Him.
On the day that that happened, I remember being flooded with what seemed like a thousand thoughts per second (and I don't think that fast) of all the reasons why asking Jesus into my heart was a bad idea.
Then, I realized where all those thoughts were coming from, and that there was a literal battle going on between God and Satan over me! And I was flabbergasted! After all, who am I?
I realize, now, that there's no greater honor, and no greater Person to place my faith, trust, and hope in than Jesus Christ...
The world will have its time to scoff and mock The Living God, but that too shall pass. I am so grateful to know that I put eternal things as the priority over finite things. It grieves me to see just how many people don't see the honor of being called by The King of Kings, Himself... That baffles my mind. They obviously don't see His glory, power, love, kindness, patients, creative genius, His sense of humor, and a few dozen more specific characteristics, just alone, being reflected in all that He has made... Not to mention His special revelation of Himself through His word...
Yeah you...thank you jesus. Right on brah.
Excellent sermon Pastor John! TY!🙏⚓📖⏳🕯⌛👣
The best I ever heard. Praise God. All glory to God!
Thank you Father. I'm grateful to know you're not after me. And Surely Jesus saved me from all evil. Jesus is Lord. Love always.
So as you said and this is the argument for the luciferians that you so readily backup for them. That God created the Angels knowing that they were going to fall only to throw them into outer Darkness for they will have suffering for the rest of Eternity. Tormented day and night forever and ever. then you have the nerve to say that God is love. You do not serve the god of the Bible nor do you speak for him you speak the words of men and therefore you will answer as a man to the Creator. Woe unto man or any false prophet that has said thus saith the Lord when the master has not said
So what do you think about that first Mister so-called preacher. You said the Lord does what he knows to be good. What do you think that means?
@@ramonlopez95 the entire context of your statement can only be described as scriptural ignorance. No one is going to listen to an arrogant finger pointer boasting about knowing the God of the Bible and asserting who does or doesn’t serve him when you are ignorant to the basics of what the Bible promises of his attributes. It’s almost as if you just fully ignored the entire hour long sermon and just went straight to comments. Not only did he impart that judgment upon the angels that denied him but also to every single human being that does the same. To sum it all up…. You need to pray for understanding. You are coming at this from a self-centered point of view. You are making the determination that gods decreed judgment Sets him apart from love. Or……. could it be that you just don’t understand? You are professing that what God’s word undeniably proclaims is false….. Think about that for a minute. Don’t sum up your own idea of who God is determined from your emotional standpoint on a subject. Let god show you who he is by reading the Bible!
@@seemeburn more like no one's going to listen to anyone except for their own self. Just like you you have your preconceived idea and you're sticking to it. No one can teach you any different because you know it already right. You teach Baal worship I think it's you that needs to read the Bible and get to know the real God Of Heaven and Earth because what you teach is not biblical and yes I know the Hebrew well not so much the Greek but I have friends that have studied the Greek. I can also read ancient paleo. You teach but the Vatican has taught you to teach and to believe you who teach nickelatheism. I don't expect anyone to listen to me or to hear me. You see I'm not under the false perception that I have the power to do anything of myself. It's the words of Yahweh God draws people to him. It's not by the will of man but only God. Scriptural ignorant I challenge you and what way little man. So answer the question why would God create Lucifer who he mourned when he said how are thou fallen from heaven oh Lucifer. Why would he create him just to throw him into a lake of fire where he will be tormented day and night forever and ever and all humans that he kept screaming at it as well that have chosen not to follow him. Tormented day and night. Burning how is that a god of love. He foreknew. And as the scripture says did he not create some vassals Of Dishonor. If he did indeed then he created them to suffer for all eternity right? That's what you teach you think on that I have yet to have a mainstream Christian Pastor that can give me an answer. However I will say this the Messianic Brothers and a few other congregations would easily know the answer to this. I doubt you come close. Keep on teaching or false Doctrine. keep on pushing people away from the creator of Heaven and Earth. I think it's you who needs to read scripture stop reading your little books from Kenneth Copeland and that apostate Billy Graham.
@@ramonlopez95 you sure are throwing out the blame game aren’t you! LOL. Look bro, I’m reading your comments and I’m hearing your heart. The only reason I even took time to write anything is because I can see where your heart is based on your point of you that you’re stating. The answer is always going to be what does scripture actually say? You don’t come at things of god based on your own understanding. You can’t say to yourself why would a loving God do this? If scripture actually states it…..the only answer is to say… because he promises these attributes about himself and because he does or did whatever action, what can I take from this? God is never going to be wrong it’s always going to be use that is wrong and as you grow you will realize that. I’m telling you you and your problem is you base. It’s not an error in the Bible it’s an error and your understanding and you need to let God show you the only answer here is for you to pray and ask God to reveal himself to you. There are attributes about God that we will never understand until we meet him that’s why you have to lean on who he promises that he is. what you are stating is my own preconceived idea…. I’m telling you it is what is stated factually and literally written in the Bible…. The problem with this entire situation is that you don’t like what the Bible says….you are not willing to accept it. This has nothing to do with a personal point of view or opinion it’s what it actually states. I don’t see how you can argue that. Your entire reply to me is filled with accusations that you have no idea or even correct you do not even know me. If I could give you one piece of advice as my last writing to you it would be to stop making assertions about assumptions. I still stand by everything I originally wrote to you. If you need scripture for all these things I will be happy to get them to you I don’t really have much time to do that right now but I will show you that what I’m saying it’s not false doctrine or born of false teachers or prophets. The simple fact that she would even state that having not known me just further reveals my point here that it is you that has the problem I’m telling you the Bible actually says something and you’re telling me that I teach false doctrine you need to get real and humble yourself! I know Jesus. I will pray for you man. I hear your heart and I get your frustration but when I read your text I just see a soul that’s unwilling to listen. This is not false doctrine but I am telling you it’s in the Bible that’s all there is to it you keep saying I’m preaching false doctrine… but it’s in the Bible. Again it is in the Bible. Again and again it is in the Bible. That’s what I want to know of you actually. How can you argue but this is not biblical when it’s actually stated in the Bible? Answer that for me please. Unless you come up with something that actually is factual to argue with I will not be replying or I can reply with the verses that you need to go read other than that I’m going to end this conversation because I don’t feel that you’re at a point in your life where you can really hear the truth. I’m not judging you were trying to make you feel bad I think you should take this as critical advice. I hope you will anyways. Again my friend The Bible literally states these things so how can you argue with that?
What a wonderful God. He has done so many miracles for me I can’t count them. He always says listen and wait.
Listening from Norway. One of the most perfect SERMONS ever❤❤❤
GOD BLESS DOCTOR MacArthur ✝️👑🛐🕊📖🍞💦🗝⚓️
We all must do our part and spread the good news be brave be bold be humble but be quick
Glory to God🙌 I am so thankful for your teaching from our Heavenly Father words. From your teaching I have gotten so much closer to the Lord. Thank you John God bless you 💯
This is and has been one of my favorite sermons for years now; one that I return to often.
Dr. Mac Arthur! I abdolute love your teaching! So hope that one day I will have the pleasure of meeting you in person.
Your teaching on evil is very, very enlightening .
Have had the discussion with many about evil and freewill.
People in the church that I attended believe that freewill has nothing to do with evil???? So wrong....sad!!! Thank you!!!
Excellent sermon.
Thank you lord that youve chosen me to be your child..that you had a plan before I knew you..I feel so privileged to serve the one true God and Jesus Christ His don..
Does God have a plan for aborted children too?
Thank you, Jesus for your gift of John Macarthur, a wonderful pastor who keeps it very, very real. God Bless All.
What an incredible sermon, all glory to God alone!
This was a very powerful message that I truly enjoyed. I've learned a lot over the past few weeks listening and I'm so thankful
Grateful is so small in how I feel being saved from His wrath and Redeemed by His Love! 😢😢😢
THE PROTEST THAT CHANGED THE WORLD IS ONE OF THE MOST NEEDED TEACHINGS FOR TODAY. I HAVE BEEN BLESSED TO ATTEND SEMINARY HOWEVER I WAS NOT TAUGHT THIS GREAT INSIGHT OF THE REFORMATION.I AM SO GREATFUL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION EXALTING THE BIBLE AS THE ONLY FOUNDATION FOR TRUE FAITH.GOD BLESS YOU EVER SO RICHLY.BLESS YOU AND YOURS.
What's the bible say..,? God says that will bring calamity
Amen! to that
@@ogjz7588 God says that will bring calamity? What is the "that" that will bring calamity, OG?
man i love the way he is so thorough
Absolutely the best sermon I’ve ever heard about evil/sin. Answered so many wonders for me! Thank you GOD for being who you are🙌🏼🙏🙌🏼 and thank you sir for this fire and brimstone sermon.
Thank You Father for faithful truth teachers 🙏
Humanity needs this clarification. I appreciate that it was given without ego, apology, agenda or emotion. None of which are necessary, the Word of the Lord is absolute and final.
Very well done, God needs more servants like you to speak on His behalf. You've got a new subscriber.
Why does God's perfect word need clarification?
Yes a good sermon indeed very well explained
@@MrButtstroker It seems based on the rest of her comment that she meant that the world needs to have this communicated to it. Gods word does not return void.
This is excellent preaching my favorite pastor alive John MacArthur thank you thank you all praise to God💙🙏
I always go to Romans 9:23 when thinking about why evil exists. It is to declare His glory in the mercy He shows towards those He's chosen to save. Therefore glory belongs to our God and Savoir Jesus for His sovereign choice of saving us.
It is so wonderful to understand that I’m clay in his hands, He’s my potter, so He does in my life as He pleases, for his own Glory. For his will done in my own life is the best thing that could ever happens to me. To Him be the Glory and the Honor and the Power, forever and ever. Amen.
THANK YOU GOOD GOD FOR TRUE AND FAITHFUL PREACHERS LIKE JOHN MACARTHUR..
Amen!
Why does he say that people can still be saved after they receive mark of the beast?
@@Corinthians-sp5ct @Philip Bishop @Philip Bishop
because HE IS NO MAN OF GOD. But an Anti-Christ a wolf in sheep's clothing deceiving many As The Bible, God's word makes clear that there would be, especially in the end times, and even so back then.
I listened to this DECIEVER for YEARS sadly. I even gave money to Grace TO You multiple times. Listened to him on Moody Radio too often.
That is until he started preaching this heretical, blasphemous type messages sprinkled with truth here and there leading man or sheep, astray to devour them like the WOLF that he is.
He said that God uses/allows/determines evil to put his justice, His wrath on display.
WHAT?! The ONLY people who could actually believe that blasphemy be true are people who don't know God or at best do NOT know their Bibles at all.
He also says that evil cannot be explained easily at the beginning of this lecture of lies.
Yet it can be Explained easily. Evil is ALLOWED because evil is a contrast of good and without evil there is NO FREE WILL. Without free will, there would only be one choice.
We would quite literally be slaves to God and God DOESN'T WANT HIS CREATION TO BE FORCED TO CHOOSE HIM as without evil He would be the ONLY choice..
instead He is currently USING satan as a NECESSARY yet TEMPORARY evil so man may CHOOSE.
Do any of you want friends who are forced to be your friend's through no other choice or place or do you want friends who choose you when they could choose other people or other things? Rhetorical question obviously.
The aforementioned is a very simplified answer for why God is temporarily letting evil exist.
If there wasn't the tree of the knowledge of good and evil with satan in the garden of Eden, then Adam-and-Eve would have been technically ENSLAVED In the garden. No way out. BUT our amazing forgiving humble (although all powerful) God wanted to give us CHOICE allow us not to be slaves, ALLOW US to CHOOSE to choose GOOD over EVIL to ALLOW us to CHOOSE FORGIVENESS over JUDGMENT, HEAVENLY things over EARTHLY things GODLY things over SELFISH FLESHLY things.
Does my answer/message above, Biblically sound response sound ANYTHING like what John MacArthur said for over an HOUR?
No, no it does not. 2 TOTALLY different answers.
I am sick.
when he was talking about the different Armenian "false" beliefs. He was right except for ONE of those types of "Armenian" beliefs; which was and I quote:
"Or He [is a God who] chose not to [prevent evil] for a greater good, HUMAN FREEDOM" end quote.
That is EXACTLY WHAT THE TRUTH IS. Which is why he said it VERY quickly. Again, HUMAN FREEDOM IS EXACTLY WHY TEMPORARY EVIL IS ALLOWED.
He is very slick with his words. Saying "God WILLS evil to exist" why would he choose the word "wills"? instead of permits, allows, or with SADNESS He LET'S evil exist. and to be CLEAR because this antichrist lies, EVIL COMES OUT FROM THE SINFUL *FREE WILL CHOICES* OF MANKIND!!! Evil doesn't come from God Himself in the sense that He is the one committing the sins. The Bible is clear God can't stand sin (evil) He weeps even, our FREE WILL SINFUL CHOICES breaks His heart.
If He "willed" all this evil and sin, why would He come down out of Heaven to Earth in the form of man to take on the sins (evil) of the world, the ones who believe in Him and HIS SACRIFICE AND RESURRECTION as PAYMENT for OUR SINS THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE WILLED/CHOSEN TO COMMIT?
I can only spiritually handle explaining one more LIE AND BLASPHEMOUS thing this DECIEVER "preached"
The BIGGEST most DISGUSTING thing He said was after saying my "autonomy" BIBLICALLY SOUND beliefs for evil is me and others are looking to get "God off of the hook"?!?!?! WHAT? He is literally saying I'm wrong while implying that God is on the hook, fully responsible, ALL EVIL is HIS fault?! Are you kidding me people? How does ANYONE listen to this man? God is perfect, God is LOVE again as scripture makes perfectly clear a perfect God who is LOVE ITSELF cannot and WILL NOT EVER be able to be "hooked" by ANYTHING putting Him in a place where people could even try to "let him off the hook" for being basically guilty of evil (sin). John MacArthur is clearly, factually, repetitiously, saying that God is guilty of sin as He is the sole reason for it, as He "willfully", "determines" it. MacArthur this antichrist, is Inarguably saying in general that GOD IS SIN, EVIL, ITSELF. Period. He spent this entire talk straight from the pits of hell as if he was satan himself PINNING ALL EVIL AND SIN ON GOD HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!
Someone try and debate my BIBLE ONLY BASED CLAIMS above. Just know, if anyone could even come up with some ridiculous explanation or excuse for this absolute heresy (I don't see how one could) I would be able, and WILL in God's name, In the power of Yahushua, and His word found in the Bible and the hearts and minds of actual saved born again children of God, dismantle the lies of this antichrist you are protecting.
I truly am blown away and absolutely SICKENED by the words this silver tongued devil spoke in this video. and I am saddened by those who sat there listening and clapping as he tried to place sin and all evil on God, all running from responsibility by not admitting that YOU, ME, WE, ALL MEN are the SOURCE OF EVIL through our SINFULNESS by our CHOICES that our PERFECT, SINLESS, LOVING, FORGIVING and unlike said by John here, "OFF THE HOOK" Creator as he was NEVER ON THE HOOK IN THE FIRST PLACE has temporarily *ALLOWED* (not personally committed) I am not God and God is not me although I'm made in His image so I am not perfect like God and God is not a sinner like ME.
For context, I am not reLIEgious, I am of no "denomination", I was raised catholic became atheist then found our Abba Father, Yahushua Jesus the Christ, on my OWN through personal research. I accepted truth and the free gift of salvation to be born again and forgiven over 10 years ago.
and I LOVE ALL OF YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS! Although not easy, I LOVE JOHN MACARTHUR as well! Yet he is preaching FALSE DOCTRINE so wrong and yet so cleverly with his speech and occasional truths and so beyond just loving him I pray for him that he turns from his wicked ways and that his listeners become previous listeners, like ME, after seeing through his deceitfulness. These preachings and all like them lead people to hell.
Again I LOVE EVERYONE but MUST stand for the true and only word of God. Especially with such CLEAR undeniable falsehoods being so deceptively spoken here but as always the truth cuts through lies such as these with ease praise be to GOD YHWY our heavenly Father.
I just hope if it be God's will, that this comment gets one person to turn from this man and to turn to their Bible and pray before it likely gets deleted.
I'll end with scripture:
Proverbs 14:5-9, 12, 15-16, 25 KJV
A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth. Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit. Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour. There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident. A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.
@@JesusNOTreLIEgion Praise the Lord that the Holy Spirit moved you away from him!! I’ve been telling a brother in the Lord about this man for years now and yet he still listens to him. It’s mind blowing.. Thank you for your comment and my the Lord be with you!!!
@@Corinthians-sp5ct He never said that. You are a troll or a bot or just full of yourself! Selah
Yes. Thank you for this lesson. I am new to this ministry. I come here looking for strength in the word. Recent events of the past year have given me pause to reunite with my faith. A Loved family member has passed on while in the care of an evil person. So it is with broken heart, and bad thoughts of wishing the same evil to befall on all those who harmed my dad and myself in this painful event that I now speak of. Lord please forgive me for my revengeful thoughts on Narcissists and Psychopaths who killed my vulnerable dad, and caused ill will to me. This is so very hard for me to abandon, to give to you my burden of this, and continue on with the gifted life you gave me..... ... Thank you for this lesson. I will continue to listen to God's word.💖🙏✝️📖🙏
Robin Lindberg Pray all is well with you my friend...stay vigilant...🙂
seek strength in the word by reading his word my brother because this man here is a silver tongued devil an anti christ who speak lies.
Trust no man. Especially do not trust this man,
because HE IS NO MAN OF GOD. But an Anti-Christ a wolf in sheep's clothing deceiving many As The Bible, God's word makes clear that there would be, especially in the end times, and even so back then.
I listened to this DECIEVER for YEARS sadly. I even gave money to Grace TO You multiple times. Listened to him on Moody Radio too often.
That is until he started preaching this heretical, blasphemous type messages sprinkled with truth here and there leading man or sheep, astray to devour them like the WOLF that he is.
He said that God uses/allows/determines evil to put his justice, His wrath on display.
WHAT?! The ONLY people who could actually believe that blasphemy be true are people who don't know God or at best do NOT know their Bibles at all.
He also says that evil cannot be explained easily at the beginning of this lecture of lies.
Yet it can be Explained easily. Evil is ALLOWED because evil is a contrast of good and without evil there is NO FREE WILL. Without free will, there would only be one choice.
We would quite literally be slaves to God and God DOESN'T WANT HIS CREATION TO BE FORCED TO CHOOSE HIM as without evil He would be the ONLY choice..
instead He is currently USING satan as a NECESSARY yet TEMPORARY evil so man may CHOOSE.
Do any of you want friends who are forced to be your friend's through no other choice or place or do you want friends who choose you when they could choose other people or other things? Rhetorical question obviously.
The aforementioned is a very simplified answer for why God is temporarily letting evil exist.
If there wasn't the tree of the knowledge of good and evil with satan in the garden of Eden, then Adam-and-Eve would have been technically ENSLAVED In the garden. No way out. BUT our amazing forgiving humble (although all powerful) God wanted to give us CHOICE allow us not to be slaves, ALLOW US to CHOOSE to choose GOOD over EVIL to ALLOW us to CHOOSE FORGIVENESS over JUDGMENT, HEAVENLY things over EARTHLY things GODLY things over SELFISH FLESHLY things.
Does my answer/message above, Biblically sound response sound ANYTHING like what John MacArthur said for over an HOUR?
No, no it does not. 2 TOTALLY different answers.
I am sick.
when he was talking about the different Armenian "false" beliefs. He was right except for ONE of those types of "Armenian" beliefs; which was and I quote:
"Or He [is a God who] chose not to [prevent evil] for a greater good, HUMAN FREEDOM" end quote.
That is EXACTLY WHAT THE TRUTH IS. Which is why he said it VERY quickly. Again, HUMAN FREEDOM IS EXACTLY WHY TEMPORARY EVIL IS ALLOWED.
He is very slick with his words. Saying "God WILLS evil to exist" why would he choose the word "wills"? instead of permits, allows, or with SADNESS He LET'S evil exist. and to be CLEAR because this antichrist lies, EVIL COMES OUT FROM THE SINFUL *FREE WILL CHOICES* OF MANKIND!!! Evil doesn't come from God Himself in the sense that He is the one committing the sins. The Bible is clear God can't stand sin (evil) He weeps even, our FREE WILL SINFUL CHOICES breaks His heart.
If He "willed" all this evil and sin, why would He come down out of Heaven to Earth in the form of man to take on the sins (evil) of the world, the ones who believe in Him and HIS SACRIFICE AND RESURRECTION as PAYMENT for OUR SINS THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE WILLED/CHOSEN TO COMMIT?
I can only spiritually handle explaining one more LIE AND BLASPHEMOUS thing this DECIEVER "preached"
The BIGGEST most DISGUSTING thing He said was after saying my "autonomy" BIBLICALLY SOUND beliefs for evil is me and others are looking to get "God off of the hook"?!?!?! WHAT? He is literally saying I'm wrong while implying that God is on the hook, fully responsible, ALL EVIL is HIS fault?! Are you kidding me people? How does ANYONE listen to this man? God is perfect, God is LOVE again as scripture makes perfectly clear a perfect God who is LOVE ITSELF cannot and WILL NOT EVER be able to be "hooked" by ANYTHING putting Him in a place where people could even try to "let him off the hook" for being basically guilty of evil (sin). John MacArthur is clearly, factually, repetitiously, saying that God is guilty of sin as He is the sole reason for it, as He "willfully", "determines" it. MacArthur this antichrist, is Inarguably saying in general that GOD IS SIN, EVIL, ITSELF. Period. He spent this entire talk straight from the pits of hell as if he was satan himself PINNING ALL EVIL AND SIN ON GOD HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!
Someone try and debate my BIBLE ONLY BASED CLAIMS above. Just know, if anyone could even come up with some ridiculous explanation or excuse for this absolute heresy (I don't see how one could) I would be able, and WILL in God's name, In the power of Yahushua, and His word found in the Bible and the hearts and minds of actual saved born again children of God, dismantle the lies of this antichrist you are protecting.
I truly am blown away and absolutely SICKENED by the words this silver tongued devil spoke in this video. and I am saddened by those who sat there listening and clapping as he tried to place sin and all evil on God, all running from responsibility by not admitting that YOU, ME, WE, ALL MEN are the SOURCE OF EVIL through our SINFULNESS by our CHOICES that our PERFECT, SINLESS, LOVING, FORGIVING and unlike said by John here, "OFF THE HOOK" Creator as he was NEVER ON THE HOOK IN THE FIRST PLACE has temporarily *ALLOWED* (not personally committed) I am not God and God is not me although I'm made in His image so I am not perfect like God and God is not a sinner like ME.
For context, I am not reLIEgious, I am of no "denomination", I was raised catholic became atheist then found our Abba Father, Yahushua Jesus the Christ, on my OWN through personal research. I accepted truth and the free gift of salvation to be born again and forgiven over 10 years ago.
and I LOVE ALL OF YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS! Although not easy, I LOVE JOHN MACARTHUR as well! Yet he is preaching FALSE DOCTRINE so wrong and yet so cleverly with his speech and occasional truths and so beyond just loving him I pray for him that he turns from his wicked ways and that his listeners become previous listeners, like ME, after seeing through his deceitfulness. These preachings and all like them lead people to hell.
Again I LOVE EVERYONE but MUST stand for the true and only word of God. Especially with such CLEAR undeniable falsehoods being so deceptively spoken here but as always the truth cuts through lies such as these with ease praise be to GOD YHWY our heavenly Father.
I just hope if it be God's will, that this comment gets one person to turn from this man and to turn to their Bible and pray before it likely gets deleted.
I'll end with scripture:
Proverbs 14:5-9, 12, 15-16, 25 KJV
A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth. Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit. Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour. There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident. A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.
@@JesusNOTreLIEgion "Evil is ALLOWED because evil is a contrast of good and without evil there is NO FREE WILL. Without free will, there would only be one choice.
We would quite literally be slaves to God and God DOESN'T WANT HIS CREATION TO BE FORCED TO CHOOSE HIM as without evil He would be the ONLY choice.. "
None of that is in the Bible and none of your lengthy post is argued from scripture except one quote at the end.
Why are you posting this in response to OP's comment when you could have done so in a separate comment? Her comment was about losing her father and you've made no comment on that. She didn't even say she was going to continue to listen to MacArthur, only to God's word.
As hard as it is to do, if we cannot forgive others the Father will not forgive us. Pray for a forgiving heart ❤️
Joining in prayer for you. Thank you for sharing this testimony!
One of the greatest sermons EVER!
I say this and my long explanation to follow not only with no offense intended, but out of pure love for you Jason and our Heavenly Father and his truth my brother;
This might be the worst most deceiving blasphemous and wicked sermons in history. Lies spoken very sneakily to the inattentive. Let us have eyes to see and ears to hear with the discernment Yahushua Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior will give us.
HE IS NO MAN OF GOD! But an Anti-Christ a wolf in sheep's clothing deceiving many As The Bible, God's word makes clear that there would be, especially in the end times, and even so back then.
I listened to this DECIEVER for YEARS sadly. I even gave money to Grace TO You multiple times. Listened to him on Moody Radio too often.
That is until he started preaching this heretical, blasphemous type messages sprinkled with truth here and there leading man or sheep, astray to devour them like the WOLF that he is.
He said that God uses/allows/determines evil to put his justice, His wrath on display.
WHAT?! The ONLY people who could actually believe that blasphemy be true are people who don't know God or at best do NOT know their Bibles at all.
He also says that evil cannot be explained easily at the beginning of this lecture of lies.
Yet it can be Explained easily. Evil is ALLOWED because evil is a contrast of good and without evil there is NO FREE WILL. Without free will, there would only be one choice.
We would quite literally be slaves to God and God DOESN'T WANT HIS CREATION TO BE FORCED TO CHOOSE HIM as without evil He would be the ONLY choice..
instead He is currently USING satan as a NECESSARY yet TEMPORARY evil so man may CHOOSE.
Do any of you want friends who are forced to be your friend's through no other choice or place or do you want friends who choose you when they could choose other people or other things? Rhetorical question obviously.
The aforementioned is a very simplified answer for why God is temporarily letting evil exist.
If there wasn't the tree of the knowledge of good and evil with satan in the garden of Eden, then Adam-and-Eve would have been technically ENSLAVED In the garden. No way out. BUT our amazing forgiving humble (although all powerful) God wanted to give us CHOICE allow us not to be slaves, ALLOW US to CHOOSE to choose GOOD over EVIL to ALLOW us to CHOOSE FORGIVENESS over JUDGMENT, HEAVENLY things over EARTHLY things GODLY things over SELFISH FLESHLY things.
Does my answer/message above, Biblically sound response sound ANYTHING like what John MacArthur said for over an HOUR?
No, no it does not. 2 TOTALLY different answers.
I am sick.
when he was talking about the different Armenian "false" beliefs. He was right except for ONE of those types of "Armenian" beliefs; which was and I quote:
"Or He [is a God who] chose not to [prevent evil] for a greater good, HUMAN FREEDOM" end quote.
That is EXACTLY WHAT THE TRUTH IS. Which is why he said it VERY quickly. Again, HUMAN FREEDOM IS EXACTLY WHY TEMPORARY EVIL IS ALLOWED.
He is very slick with his words. Saying "God WILLS evil to exist" why would he choose the word "wills"? instead of permits, allows, or with SADNESS He LET'S evil exist. and to be CLEAR because this antichrist lies, EVIL COMES OUT FROM THE SINFUL *FREE WILL CHOICES* OF MANKIND!!! Evil doesn't come from God Himself in the sense that He is the one committing the sins. The Bible is clear God can't stand sin (evil) He weeps even, our FREE WILL SINFUL CHOICES breaks His heart.
If He "willed" all this evil and sin, why would He come down out of Heaven to Earth in the form of man to take on the sins (evil) of the world, the ones who believe in Him and HIS SACRIFICE AND RESURRECTION as PAYMENT for OUR SINS THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE WILLED/CHOSEN TO COMMIT?
I can only spiritually handle explaining one more LIE AND BLASPHEMOUS thing this DECIEVER "preached"
The BIGGEST most DISGUSTING thing He said was after saying my "autonomy" BIBLICALLY SOUND beliefs for evil is me and others are looking to get "God off of the hook"?!?!?! WHAT? He is literally saying I'm wrong while implying that God is on the hook, fully responsible, ALL EVIL is HIS fault?! Are you kidding me people? How does ANYONE listen to this man? God is perfect, God is LOVE again as scripture makes perfectly clear a perfect God who is LOVE ITSELF cannot and WILL NOT EVER be able to be "hooked" by ANYTHING putting Him in a place where people could even try to "let him off the hook" for being basically guilty of evil (sin). John MacArthur is clearly, factually, repetitiously, saying that God is guilty of sin as He is the sole reason for it, as He "willfully", "determines" it. MacArthur this antichrist, is Inarguably saying in general that GOD IS SIN, EVIL, ITSELF. Period. He spent this entire talk straight from the pits of hell as if he was satan himself PINNING ALL EVIL AND SIN ON GOD HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!
Someone try and debate my BIBLE ONLY BASED CLAIMS above. Just know, if anyone could even come up with some ridiculous explanation or excuse for this absolute heresy (I don't see how one could) I would be able, and WILL in God's name, In the power of Yahushua, and His word found in the Bible and the hearts and minds of actual saved born again children of God, dismantle the lies of this antichrist you are protecting.
I truly am blown away and absolutely SICKENED by the words this silver tongued devil spoke in this video. and I am saddened by those who sat there listening and clapping as he tried to place sin and all evil on God, all running from responsibility by not admitting that YOU, ME, WE, ALL MEN are the SOURCE OF EVIL through our SINFULNESS by our CHOICES that our PERFECT, SINLESS, LOVING, FORGIVING and unlike said by John here, "OFF THE HOOK" Creator as he was NEVER ON THE HOOK IN THE FIRST PLACE has temporarily *ALLOWED* (not personally committed) I am not God and God is not me although I'm made in His image so I am not perfect like God and God is not a sinner like ME.
For context, I am not reLIEgious, I am of no "denomination", I was raised catholic became atheist then found our Abba Father, Yahushua Jesus the Christ, on my OWN through personal research. I accepted truth and the free gift of salvation to be born again and forgiven over 10 years ago.
and I LOVE ALL OF YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS! Although not easy, I LOVE JOHN MACARTHUR as well! Yet he is preaching FALSE DOCTRINE so wrong and yet so cleverly with his speech and occasional truths and so beyond just loving him I pray for him that he turns from his wicked ways and that his listeners become previous listeners, like ME, after seeing through his deceitfulness. These preachings and all like them lead people to hell.
Again I LOVE EVERYONE but MUST stand for the true and only word of God. Especially with such CLEAR undeniable falsehoods being so deceptively spoken here but as always the truth cuts through lies such as these with ease praise be to GOD YHWY our heavenly Father.
I just hope if it be God's will, that this comment gets one person to turn from this man and to turn to their Bible and pray before it likely gets deleted.
I'll end with scripture:
Proverbs 14:5-9, 12, 15-16, 25 KJV
A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth. Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit. Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour. There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident. A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.
@@JesusNOTreLIEgion Dude thanks so much for making this in paragraphs, I will read it shortly when i can focus properly.
In my email it showed as all one giant paragraph, I was about to come and slamm you for writing so much that is impossible to read, but.. I was wrong so thanks.
Will be back soon...
I would add yes, but, MacArthur reading from the nas, is there in himself, proving, that evil exists - 49:18.
Read only the KJV Holy Bible.
AMEN! Thank you John! Job 38 is SO astounding to me, the way God speaks of HIS attributes ...Just breathtaking! _ALL GLORY_ goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords!
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Amen
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@Sir Isaac Newton ~ Why do you think God ordained ...though WAS NOT the cause of evil Newton? Think MERCY. You know some of these answers so no pearls for swine. btw . Issac Newton was a CHRISTIAN (reformed).
@Sir Isaac Newton ~ Well think on this. Then no more pearls for swine. l wont answer. _No man CAN come to Me unless The Father who sent Me draws him. And l will raise him up on the last day_ ~ John 6:44 Now do as Augustine did, and with a humble heart ''TOLLE LEGE!'' < l'll let you figure that one out since you're such a philosopher.
i’ve learned so much from john mc!!!!God Bless You and yours..
Great message!
Amen! Wonderful as usual for Johnny Mac!!
Absolutely brilliant thank you so much!
Definitely one of😊 the best episodes ta halftime podcast
I'm blow in away by this and many of my beloved pastor and shepherd. Our CREATOR GOD ALMIGHTY is wounderus and full of his glorious power . Maker of all. Thank you for the joy and STRENGTH you fill us up. Amen.
I have the feeling you do a lot more blowing than you're letting on.
this is probably my favorite sermon from John Mcarthur
Praise God for men like John. Lord raise up more men of God , fill them with courage , strength and wisdom❤🙌🙏
Tremendous and profound! Goes to show once again that if you are going to disagree with MacArthur you better have your guns loaded and loaded good! The Scriptural basis he used to support his contention settled it for me. It is truly great!
@Whip'em up! Your problem is with God sinner not Mark or John MacArthur
This man need to be taught.instead.of.trying to.teach.where.can you.find.sunday.worship in the Bible like Jesus said in.vain.do.they.worship me.teaching for doctrine the commandment of.men
I need no loaded guns, only the Bible and the armor of God to dismantle this subtle yet blasphemous sermon.
if you read this Mark my brother, I say it all with love for you and our heavenly Father:
HE IS NO MAN OF GOD. But an Anti-Christ a wolf in sheep's clothing deceiving many As The Bible, God's word makes clear that there would be, especially in the end times, and even so back then.
I listened to this DECIEVER for YEARS sadly. I even gave money to Grace TO You multiple times. Listened to him on Moody Radio too often.
That is until he started preaching this heretical, blasphemous type messages sprinkled with truth here and there leading man or sheep, astray to devour them like the WOLF that he is.
He said that God uses/allows/determines evil to put his justice, His wrath on display.
WHAT?! The ONLY people who could actually believe that blasphemy be true are people who don't know God or at best do NOT know their Bibles at all.
He also says that evil cannot be explained easily at the beginning of this lecture of lies.
Yet it can be Explained easily. Evil is ALLOWED because evil is a contrast of good and without evil there is NO FREE WILL. Without free will, there would only be one choice.
We would quite literally be slaves to God and God DOESN'T WANT HIS CREATION TO BE FORCED TO CHOOSE HIM as without evil He would be the ONLY choice..
instead He is currently USING satan as a NECESSARY yet TEMPORARY evil so man may CHOOSE.
Do any of you want friends who are forced to be your friend's through no other choice or place or do you want friends who choose you when they could choose other people or other things? Rhetorical question obviously.
The aforementioned is a very simplified answer for why God is temporarily letting evil exist.
If there wasn't the tree of the knowledge of good and evil with satan in the garden of Eden, then Adam-and-Eve would have been technically ENSLAVED In the garden. No way out. BUT our amazing forgiving humble (although all powerful) God wanted to give us CHOICE allow us not to be slaves, ALLOW US to CHOOSE to choose GOOD over EVIL to ALLOW us to CHOOSE FORGIVENESS over JUDGMENT, HEAVENLY things over EARTHLY things GODLY things over SELFISH FLESHLY things.
Does my answer/message above, Biblically sound response sound ANYTHING like what John MacArthur said for over an HOUR?
No, no it does not. 2 TOTALLY different answers.
I am sick.
when he was talking about the different Armenian "false" beliefs. He was right except for ONE of those types of "Armenian" beliefs; which was and I quote:
"Or He [is a God who] chose not to [prevent evil] for a greater good, HUMAN FREEDOM" end quote.
That is EXACTLY WHAT THE TRUTH IS. Which is why he said it VERY quickly. Again, HUMAN FREEDOM IS EXACTLY WHY TEMPORARY EVIL IS ALLOWED.
He is very slick with his words. Saying "God WILLS evil to exist" why would he choose the word "wills"? instead of permits, allows, or with SADNESS He LET'S evil exist. and to be CLEAR because this antichrist lies, EVIL COMES OUT FROM THE SINFUL *FREE WILL CHOICES* OF MANKIND!!! Evil doesn't come from God Himself in the sense that He is the one committing the sins. The Bible is clear God can't stand sin (evil) He weeps even, our FREE WILL SINFUL CHOICES breaks His heart.
If He "willed" all this evil and sin, why would He come down out of Heaven to Earth in the form of man to take on the sins (evil) of the world, the ones who believe in Him and HIS SACRIFICE AND RESURRECTION as PAYMENT for OUR SINS THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE WILLED/CHOSEN TO COMMIT?
I can only spiritually handle explaining one more LIE AND BLASPHEMOUS thing this DECIEVER "preached"
The BIGGEST most DISGUSTING thing He said was after saying my "autonomy" BIBLICALLY SOUND beliefs for evil is me and others are looking to get "God off of the hook"?!?!?! WHAT? He is literally saying I'm wrong while implying that God is on the hook, fully responsible, ALL EVIL is HIS fault?! Are you kidding me people? How does ANYONE listen to this man? God is perfect, God is LOVE again as scripture makes perfectly clear a perfect God who is LOVE ITSELF cannot and WILL NOT EVER be able to be "hooked" by ANYTHING putting Him in a place where people could even try to "let him off the hook" for being basically guilty of evil (sin). John MacArthur is clearly, factually, repetitiously, saying that God is guilty of sin as He is the sole reason for it, as He "willfully", "determines" it. MacArthur this antichrist, is Inarguably saying in general that GOD IS SIN, EVIL, ITSELF. Period. He spent this entire talk straight from the pits of hell as if he was satan himself PINNING ALL EVIL AND SIN ON GOD HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!
Someone try and debate my BIBLE ONLY BASED CLAIMS above. Just know, if anyone could even come up with some ridiculous explanation or excuse for this absolute heresy (I don't see how one could) I would be able, and WILL in God's name, In the power of Yahushua, and His word found in the Bible and the hearts and minds of actual saved born again children of God, dismantle the lies of this antichrist you are protecting.
I truly am blown away and absolutely SICKENED by the words this silver tongued devil spoke in this video. and I am saddened by those who sat there listening and clapping as he tried to place sin and all evil on God, all running from responsibility by not admitting that YOU, ME, WE, ALL MEN are the SOURCE OF EVIL through our SINFULNESS by our CHOICES that our PERFECT, SINLESS, LOVING, FORGIVING and unlike said by John here, "OFF THE HOOK" Creator as he was NEVER ON THE HOOK IN THE FIRST PLACE has temporarily *ALLOWED* (not personally committed) I am not God and God is not me although I'm made in His image so I am not perfect like God and God is not a sinner like ME.
For context, I am not reLIEgious, I am of no "denomination", I was raised catholic became atheist then found our Abba Father, Yahushua Jesus the Christ, on my OWN through personal research. I accepted truth and the free gift of salvation to be born again and forgiven over 10 years ago.
and I LOVE ALL OF YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS! Although not easy, I LOVE JOHN MACARTHUR as well! Yet he is preaching FALSE DOCTRINE so wrong and yet so cleverly with his speech and occasional truths and so beyond just loving him I pray for him that he turns from his wicked ways and that his listeners become previous listeners, like ME, after seeing through his deceitfulness. These preachings and all like them lead people to hell.
Again I LOVE EVERYONE but MUST stand for the true and only word of God. Especially with such CLEAR undeniable falsehoods being so deceptively spoken here but as always the truth cuts through lies such as these with ease praise be to GOD YHWY our heavenly Father.
I just hope if it be God's will, that this comment gets one person to turn from this man and to turn to their Bible and pray before it likely gets deleted.
I'll end with scripture:
Proverbs 14:5-9, 12, 15-16, 25 KJV
A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth. Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit. Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour. There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident. A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.
Yes I would tell you shoot them anyway and ask questions later
@@charlesowen5027 Try not to let modern philosophy dictate your beliefs about God. The Bible is the only source for information about Him. Matt. 6:22. Peace my friend!
AMEN!! This is why the doctrine of man is so important to teach because before we can understand the wrath and justice of God, we must first understand who we are before this God.
Pinoy boxers
Amen I am a clay to My Lord
Libnetz plato.stanford.edu/entries/leibniz-evil/
If you dont Know? Know you know!
We are made in God’s image, but we try to make Him in our image.
Probably the best John MacArthur sermon ever.
Evil is present every where and even in one's heart! Purify one's heart with the word of God!
Hallelujah Amen 🙏🏾 Praises be unto the ONLY ONE and TRUE WISE GOD ALMIGHTY 💗
Mark 1:9-11
And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
God bless Pastor John!
Greetings! What a wonderful sermon on the Sovereignty! and Holiness! of God. Thank you for posting such an important topic .Truly such a blessing to listen to a Bible based answer on why evil exists? But what else would we expect from J Mc except the Truth from Jesus Christ!
My life changed after I heard John MacArthur, he is truly blessed.
What a brighten sermon is this!
Thank you brother John for having shown light on this deep and controversial subject.
Thank you God for your pure and eternal goodness towards us.
You gotta love John MacArthur. But more importantly, you gotta love God that he preaches about. His righteousness, his glory, his mercy, his patience. Oh what an awesome God we serve. Thank you Jesus for coming down and making the purchase with your blood. Praise God
Thank you God for letting us know the deeper things of you oh our awesome God bless Dr John mac
@24:22 I did! I would have been struck down if I lived in the OT times. So scared of death and disappointed at the thought of God creating me just to die. I Questioned Him and was Furious! It would be more humane never to have created me in the first place. However, he has set the record straight. Revealing God has always loved me, and nothing can separate me again from his Love via Christ.
you are right my sister. as for this man John MacArthur he is speaking pure blasphemy as he is a genuine antichrist and its blatantly obvious to those who have spent enough time to learn the word and truth of God. Your Bible is always better than a TH-cam video of men, true believer or not. Opening that Holy Book will keep you from the wolves in sheep's clothing as this worker of inequity who has put his faith in this world and that old serpent.
This is life-changing! Thank you!! 🙏 I was lead here
Thank you, Pastor John for such a brilliant sermon! You answered so many questions I had been contemplating for a long time. May God bless you and continue use you mightily to be his vessel and voice to bring about His word powerfully to so many of us.
Such a powerful liberating comprehensive exposition and I praise God for this teaching of the Word that sets me free. Amen and Amen
God is so loving, He assumed Human flesh, and paid the ultimate price for sinners to repent, receive Him, and be saved. You don't have to understand God, to accept, love, and obey, Him.
James 1:17
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
All I can say is Amen and Amen to God be the glory and honor.
thanks John 👍
Best preacher I heard ever. Thanks for your sermons John McArthur
Amazing message!!! Thank you John Macarthur
I've never heard this before. I was always taught that there is evil because in order to be a truly loving God he gave us free will.
You are correct. MacArthur is a Calvinist, and is intellectually disingenuous.
Much of his teaching is extremely dangerous, and people should call this antichristian.
@@jedimasterham2 I don't think a lot of his teachings are far off. I just disagree with him on Calvanism. I definitely believe we have free will. The Bible says choose this day who you shall serve. This wouldn't be possible with Calvanism.
I think MacArthur gets a lot of things right but I think he has too much faith in his own interpretation. He may be completely convinced himself but to say that what he calls Armenians as inventing a false God is to say he's infallible in his views. I find that disturbing.
The first time I heard about what Calvinism believed concerning limited atonement it nearly devastated me. It scared the heck out of me because, if true, God is not who I think I understand Him to be. I cannot think of a way that it can be true and God be, above all else, a loving God.
Limited atonement would mean that God deliberately chose to create people He intended to go to Hell. It can't be any other way. All of us were born with a sin nature and we all equally deserve death. God does not choose to save us because He sees something in us He finds worthy of saving because the Bible makes it clear that none of us have anything in us worth saving. It is something He offers because it is His nature to do so in spite of who and what we are.
So, if it's limited, I think that would mean God just chose people at random to save because there doesn't seem to be any other basis for choosing. Nothing about any of us deserves salvation. I find that hard to equate to a loving God. Time and time again, the Bible tells us that God doesn't do favoritism.
I do not think God created evil in the sense that it wouldn't exist if He did not create it in the manner He created all else. I don't think it was something that had to be created any more than darkness had to be created. Evil, as I understand it, is what is contrary to God's will or contradicts His holy nature. That's not something that needs to be created. It's just part of the definition.
Nor do I believe that God is responsible for evil in any way I can think of, let alone how John describes it. God allows it. God uses evil done by others to accomplish His will and plan, but that doesn't make Him responsible for it. At least as far as I can see. The only reason I can see for Calvinists to believe that He is, is this strange idea that God can't be sovereign if He doesn't control every single aspect of existence.
As I understand it, they seem to think that if the offer of salvation is for everyone, but some refuse, this somehow violates the sovereignty of God, but cannot a sovereign God choose to allow people to accept or not?
Lastly, The Problem of Evil is a philosophical argument, not a religious one, which he seems to completely ignore. That's a bit disingenuous, in my opinion.
I really appreciate the help! I was shocked when I heard this!
@@CahliaShay I don't think it's unfair or wrong to call his brand of Calvinism a cult. It's not only completely unbiblical (they cherry pick verses but ignore context), but their views on "limited atonement" (that Jesus only died for the sins of some) and that God predestines people to heaven or hell undermines the whole point of Jesus atonement on the cross. There's no need for Jesus if God already predetermined where we go.
It also directly implies that humans are robots, programmed to act, and completely devoid of freewill.
"That was my introduction, now here's my message," definitely an "S" Tier pastor joke, but man, I am sure a lot of people were worried for a moment. I always appreciate MacArthur's discerning of the word and his ability to affectively communicate it. Great message
Wow this is as powerful as it gets. Praise to The Lord God Almighty. Praise to Christ our Lord. Thank you John for setting the scence so clearly. Absolutely amazing!!!!
Our Glorious God, thanks Pastor John. Expository preaching is what we the elect need to hear continuously.May u still linger on my
My teacher of biblical truth!
I think this is probably the single best sermon I have ever heard, in my life, bar none. Stupendous content, terrific oration, jam packed with fundamental truths throughout the entire sermon.
Compelling with Authority directly from the Bible!
A masterpiece sermon John Macarthur. Glory to our God!
@Redeemed agreed!
I've personally never heard a more blasphemous sermon in my life by the filthy Ritch antichrist that is John MacArthur.
Trust no man. Especially do not trust this man,
because HE IS NO MAN OF GOD. But an Anti-Christ a wolf in sheep's clothing deceiving many As The Bible, God's word makes clear that there would be, especially in the end times, and even so back then.
I listened to this DECIEVER for YEARS sadly. I even gave money to Grace TO You multiple times. Listened to him on Moody Radio too often.
That is until he started preaching this heretical, blasphemous type messages sprinkled with truth here and there leading man or sheep, astray to devour them like the WOLF that he is.
He said that God uses/allows/determines evil to put his justice, His wrath on display.
WHAT?! The ONLY people who could actually believe that blasphemy be true are people who don't know God or at best do NOT know their Bibles at all.
He also says that evil cannot be explained easily at the beginning of this lecture of lies.
Yet it can be Explained easily. Evil is ALLOWED because evil is a contrast of good and without evil there is NO FREE WILL. Without free will, there would only be one choice.
We would quite literally be slaves to God and God DOESN'T WANT HIS CREATION TO BE FORCED TO CHOOSE HIM as without evil He would be the ONLY choice..
instead He is currently USING satan as a NECESSARY yet TEMPORARY evil so man may CHOOSE.
Do any of you want friends who are forced to be your friend's through no other choice or place or do you want friends who choose you when they could choose other people or other things? Rhetorical question obviously.
The aforementioned is a very simplified answer for why God is temporarily letting evil exist.
If there wasn't the tree of the knowledge of good and evil with satan in the garden of Eden, then Adam-and-Eve would have been technically ENSLAVED In the garden. No way out. BUT our amazing forgiving humble (although all powerful) God wanted to give us CHOICE allow us not to be slaves, ALLOW US to CHOOSE to choose GOOD over EVIL to ALLOW us to CHOOSE FORGIVENESS over JUDGMENT, HEAVENLY things over EARTHLY things GODLY things over SELFISH FLESHLY things.
Does my answer/message above, Biblically sound response sound ANYTHING like what John MacArthur said for over an HOUR?
No, no it does not. 2 TOTALLY different answers.
I am sick.
when he was talking about the different Armenian "false" beliefs. He was right except for ONE of those types of "Armenian" beliefs; which was and I quote:
"Or He [is a God who] chose not to [prevent evil] for a greater good, HUMAN FREEDOM" end quote.
That is EXACTLY WHAT THE TRUTH IS. Which is why he said it VERY quickly. Again, HUMAN FREEDOM IS EXACTLY WHY TEMPORARY EVIL IS ALLOWED.
He is very slick with his words. Saying "God WILLS evil to exist" why would he choose the word "wills"? instead of permits, allows, or with SADNESS He LET'S evil exist. and to be CLEAR because this antichrist lies, EVIL COMES OUT FROM THE SINFUL *FREE WILL CHOICES* OF MANKIND!!! Evil doesn't come from God Himself in the sense that He is the one committing the sins. The Bible is clear God can't stand sin (evil) He weeps even, our FREE WILL SINFUL CHOICES breaks His heart.
If He "willed" all this evil and sin, why would He come down out of Heaven to Earth in the form of man to take on the sins (evil) of the world, the ones who believe in Him and HIS SACRIFICE AND RESURRECTION as PAYMENT for OUR SINS THAT WE OURSELVES HAVE WILLED/CHOSEN TO COMMIT?
I can only spiritually handle explaining one more LIE AND BLASPHEMOUS thing this DECIEVER "preached"
The BIGGEST most DISGUSTING thing He said was after saying my "autonomy" BIBLICALLY SOUND beliefs for evil is me and others are looking to get "God off of the hook"?!?!?! WHAT? He is literally saying I'm wrong while implying that God is on the hook, fully responsible, ALL EVIL is HIS fault?! Are you kidding me people? How does ANYONE listen to this man? God is perfect, God is LOVE again as scripture makes perfectly clear a perfect God who is LOVE ITSELF cannot and WILL NOT EVER be able to be "hooked" by ANYTHING putting Him in a place where people could even try to "let him off the hook" for being basically guilty of evil (sin). John MacArthur is clearly, factually, repetitiously, saying that God is guilty of sin as He is the sole reason for it, as He "willfully", "determines" it. MacArthur this antichrist, is Inarguably saying in general that GOD IS SIN, EVIL, ITSELF. Period. He spent this entire talk straight from the pits of hell as if he was satan himself PINNING ALL EVIL AND SIN ON GOD HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!
Someone try and debate my BIBLE ONLY BASED CLAIMS above. Just know, if anyone could even come up with some ridiculous explanation or excuse for this absolute heresy (I don't see how one could) I would be able, and WILL in God's name, In the power of Yahushua, and His word found in the Bible and the hearts and minds of actual saved born again children of God, dismantle the lies of this antichrist you are protecting.
I truly am blown away and absolutely SICKENED by the words this silver tongued devil spoke in this video. and I am saddened by those who sat there listening and clapping as he tried to place sin and all evil on God, all running from responsibility by not admitting that YOU, ME, WE, ALL MEN are the SOURCE OF EVIL through our SINFULNESS by our CHOICES that our PERFECT, SINLESS, LOVING, FORGIVING and unlike said by John here, "OFF THE HOOK" Creator as he was NEVER ON THE HOOK IN THE FIRST PLACE has temporarily *ALLOWED* (not personally committed) I am not God and God is not me although I'm made in His image so I am not perfect like God and God is not a sinner like ME.
For context, I am not reLIEgious, I am of no "denomination", I was raised catholic became atheist then found our Abba Father, Yahushua Jesus the Christ, on my OWN through personal research. I accepted truth and the free gift of salvation to be born again and forgiven over 10 years ago.
and I LOVE ALL OF YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS! Although not easy, I LOVE JOHN MACARTHUR as well! Yet he is preaching FALSE DOCTRINE so wrong and yet so cleverly with his speech and occasional truths and so beyond just loving him I pray for him that he turns from his wicked ways and that his listeners become previous listeners, like ME, after seeing through his deceitfulness. These preachings and all like them lead people to hell.
Again I LOVE EVERYONE but MUST stand for the true and only word of God. Especially with such CLEAR undeniable falsehoods being so deceptively spoken here but as always the truth cuts through lies such as these with ease praise be to GOD YHWY our heavenly Father.
I just hope if it be God's will, that this comment gets one person to turn from this man and to turn to their Bible and pray before it likely gets deleted.
I'll end with scripture:
Proverbs 14:5-9, 12, 15-16, 25 KJV
A faithful witness will not lie: but a false witness will utter lies. A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not: but knowledge is easy unto him that understandeth. Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge. The wisdom of the prudent is to understand his way: but the folly of fools is deceit. Fools make a mock at sin: but among the righteous there is favour. There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. A wise man feareth, and departeth from evil: but the fool rageth, and is confident. A true witness delivereth souls: but a deceitful witness speaketh lies.
Amazing 👏 Grace. ✝️
Praise God for His Amazing Grace. He makes the blind see the Word Spiritually. No greater Love than this.. No man has the wright to question God who created everything. Even the things we cannot see. Thats where Faith comes in which was given by God too... Praise the Lord for men like John McCurther who are Blessed to preach the Gospel.
This was sooo fantastic!!
why doesn`t trinity appears in bible...................///////////;;;;;;;;;;;;
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 u mean the word trinity? No, it doesn’t bc it’s a descriptive words the trinity is described over and over in the Bible. I can give u all the verses if ur too lazy to look them up urself lemme know..
@@lufhopespeacefully2037 When John baptized Jesus…a dove appeared
(holy Spirt) and the father spoke from heaven…this is my beloved son. Three persons one God…if you don’t get it…it’s because God is incomprehensible ! Selah He did not come to fix our flesh but to give us eternal life and save us from his coming wrath! Study deeper.
@@strikethenine8755 .how often does bible been revised
I concur with Job!
Thank you Pastor John for this amazing sermon ❤️
All for His Glory !
What an incredible message. I have been wanting to understand evil and John MacArthur masterfully explains it. It makes sense to me know.
Glory be to God
HE is worthy
Amen and Amen brother John!
God is allowing evil because He is waiting for you and me to come to Him thru Jesus. He gonna change this world, He's sick of it and if we don't come to Him, we gonna get swept up, too. That about summed it up for me.
Great sermon
PRAISE GOD ALMIGHTY 🙌 AND GREAT SERMON ❤️
Not being aware of all Pastors/Preachers-I will say this, that John MacArthur, is one-among many, wonderful pastors/preachers, that I’ve ever heard📖🙏‼️
Amen, to His Glory!!
Thank you God for John Mc Arthur the best minister thank you in Jesus Christ name Amen ❤
Thank you Pastor, JESUS ROCKS
Praise God!
Hosanna!!!
Awesome explanation thanks pastor 🙏🏻✝️📖⛪️
No creator, no clay, No potter, no vessel. Whatsoever God does is in the ultimate consummation, good. Thank you Dr Mac Arthur for stating truth without compromise to human emotional reasoning. Good overcomes evil. To God be the glory!
Happy sabbath day!!!!
I need prayers and agreement on behalf of my family, friends and anyone who wants divine intervention to fulfill their destiny and restoration. Covered by the Blood of Jesus
Fell sleep listening to the man preaching. While I had a dream about the devil blaming god of why he is not worthy of praise. Something very real.
Everytime an artist make something social and intelligent it has artistic integrity. That only possible in a created universe.
Sounds interesting,mind extrapolating on that? Thx
The Lord is in control of all ,One true God as I hear all teaching of pastor McArthur sermon ,it lesson the power of God's word ,power he grant's born again Christian to overcome Devil's worldly , Supernatural power that doesn't exist in heaven.🌟
@messenger ministries I don't know I never gone to his church,I've have listened to his utube strange Fire he has more information then I need to hear , I never heard of a evil freemason ,but he sounds Godly not evil.😷
"To demonstrate his wrath, to demonstrate his glory" That makes me giddy, God is awesome. I mean, i really love that he's so powerful, so endlessly capable of anything, he just speaks us into existence, loves us and then demonstrates his power to us, its really amazing. Its scary, it really is but I really like gods style. Gotta be honest. I spend just about every minute of my day thinking about god lol
Libertarian Free Will is one of the greatest gifts that God gave His creation.
Firman Tuhan yg dasyat dan luar biasa memberkati cara berpikir saya tentang hal hal rohani yang tersembunyi bagi saya.🙏
Excellent expounding
If a Pastor does not or will not preach on Hell. Heaven or Hell are the only choses we have. Both are Forevermore. THE LORD'S HARVEST is the most important.Truth in preaching and whole truth. No half truths are a must in GOD'S HOLY WORD. Just ❤that JESUS! ❤AMEN!
I played around and got burnt I used to think it was cool to dable around danger but one day I got a glimpse of the truth about what evil is and what it means and believe me it's better to be made fun of because you are in Christ because the evil one does not live you like Christ does his correction is a blessing
God bless Dr. MacArthur, he teaches the true WORD of LIVING GOD ✝️👑🛐🕊📖🍞💦⚓️👍👍👍
He HAS A PURPOSE FOR PERMITTING EVIL..THAT WE ARE TESTED & QUALIFIED FOR OUR ETERNAL HOME ( HEAVEN),
I love the KJV. Isaiah 45:5-9
5I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
6That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
7I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
8Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
Thank you
God created free will - choice to obey or not obey. Evil is a consequence of choosing to not perform God’s Will. There’s a huge difference between creating evil and evil being a consequence of man’s or angelic free will.
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Evil is a consiquences of sin. In this context evil can be translated into calamity, diaster, woes...etc. Translations are important.
Amazingly, he doesn't see his own contradictions:
1. God is not the author of evil, yet creates it
2. Says that the contrast of good vs. evil is bad, but then says sin is necessary for his glory and holiness to be displayed
He's right. God doesn't need saving from the biblical narrative, his character needs defense from the contradictions of Calvinism
I truly like Pastor John MacArthur, what I don't understand is his take on Christians who believe in free will. You can believe in Free Will and still believe in: the Sovereignty of God, That God is all knowing and he knows who was going to be saved even before he placed everything in motion yet allowed free will to exist too, that God also allows Evil to exist, that God does things for His own pleasure, that God is Holy and should be revered by His creation, that no one should question God's authority. Pastor John made all the points within his sermon and assumed that Arminian believers would start having heightened heart rates and sweaty palms over his statement and I 100% agreed with his previous statements. If you deny God's sovereignty then you are in error of the scripture; if you don't believe God is all knowing then you are in error of the scriptures; if you believe God reacts to things in real time without having foreknowledge then you are in error of the scriptures. Believing in the Sovereign will of God and the free will of man (and angelic beings) could both be true. If God elects those to be saved then Satan is wasting his time because those who are already damned are already damned so his work is in vain. Calvinist don't have an answer to the Devil's schemes and mission to destroy humanity, nor can they satisfy the question of Adam's choice to sin being of free will. I still love John MacArthur's sermons though.
Isaiah 45:7, Amos 3:6, Isaiah 54:16 must critically be looked at.