REBUTTING Ray Comfort on Catholicism
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- In this episode Trent rebuts arguments from Living Waters evangelist Ray Comfort in his recent video “This Will Make You Think Differently About Catholicism...”.
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Saying that you used to be Catholic but now you’re “Christian” is an admission that you know very little about your Faith.
Excellent point!
To say you're a Christian when you are a Catholic is an admission that you know nothing about your Faith. The two don't agree.
@@brutus896 What is your definition of a Christian?
@@samruggiero1778 A Christian is a person who has repented, put faith and trust in the person and work of Jesus Christ, including His death on the cross as payment for sins and His resurrection on the third day. And abides in Him daily.
@@brutus896 got news for you buddy, Catholics believe that!
10:16 Saying you moved from Catholicism to Christianity is like saying you moved from Washington DC to the United States…
Kind of. DC is ever becoming "foreign" territory.
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@@AJKPenguin agreed
Good point. I don’t get how people view Catholicism as not Christian. Just because we don’t agree with a denomination doesn’t mean it’s not Christian.
@@AJKPenguin Why is DC like “foreign” territory? I am curious.
Thanks.
Thank you for responding to Ray Comfort. He always brings up the same-old arguments, even after people attempt to correct him. Your work is greatly appreciated!
Unfortunately, that doesn't say anything good about Ray Comfort's moral character.
@@appliedvirtue7731 do you know Ray Comfort? Have you met him? Talked to him and spent some time around him? So, you can judge his character?
@@MalibuGlassMI well, since he manipulates and basically lies to the people he interviews....
I asked him many questions but he never reply but replies to anti Catholics
@@hcho7776 I was subscribed to his channel, because I really believed in the brotherhood of Christianity... but then I started noticing that all these "Christian Pastors" have a hard anti-Catholic agenda, and horrible theology and no knowledge of history. I suspect they are more interested in getting more people to tithe.
Born and raised Catholic. Fell away from the Church at 18. Returned to Christianity via Evangelical Protestantism. Got a degree in Philosophy from an Evangelical College later in life and, as a result, returned to the Catholic Faith.
😂😂😂 that's brilliant.
What a journey. No one goes back to where he was unless he found out the truth. You got humility.
Sorry to hear that
@@Kingdom_of_God777I can’t tell if this comment is supposed to be anti-Catholic or showing remorse for them leaving the church at one point
@@fatstrategist
I certainly have no remorse that he left that church
Read the comments from that video. Terrifying. But if one ten minute video is what leads you away from your faith then, you probably didn’t have faith to begin with.
Those weaklings that leave becauae of what that buffoon ray comfort had to say or what they hear from heretical protestants, I don't get upset anymore when weaklings leave the faith , we don't need weaklings in the faith, it's a spiritual war daily to be true Christian (AKA CATHOLIC), we go to the front-line as a Catholic family in union with each other daily, and having weaklings there in between us on the front-line is a subtraction by addition. Better of they leave and take their wacko ideas with them to ray comforts nightclub (aka chirch)
He’s separating out the wheat from the Chaff as far as I’m concerned.
I pray to God they find a real Faith once again.
It's so funny to see Catholics twisting themselves like a pretzel to twist Bible Scriptures to fit their man-made narrative to come up with so ridiculous statements that even the answers they come up with contradict itself to prove that Mary only had one son where the Bible clearly says that she had fours sons and daughters with Joseph after Jesus Christ was born. The Bible says sons and daughters here the Catholics twist that word to say cousins what a lie from the pit of hell.
Please show me where it says in the Bible that Joseph was married before he married Mary and those were his children from his first wife. You will not find it anywhere in the Bible and why do Catholics like to make false stories and lies all the time? Get real will you and stop lying. Liars will have their part in the lake of fire. You are playing with fire and you might end up in it if you keep lying.
Mary and Joseph were very young she was about in her teen years and Joseph was just about the same. Two young Jewish couples that both came in the same lineage as King David.
The comments on this video are terrifying.
Thank you for responding to this!!!! Ur a great man Mr.Trent! God bless you and ur family!!!
To give credit where it is due, Ray was in a way a big part of me becoming a Catholic Christian. I remember being in middle school watching his videos and being inspired to get into apologetics. Looking back on his style now I notice some concerning things that make me feel almost as if he is trying to be deceptive and I hate to say that. I dont remember ever seeing a video of his where he interacted with a well educated Catholic or a person educated on any faith contrary to his own perception of Christianity. I also notice that he seems to come off as rather condescending as if he thinks (or maybe wants his audience to think) that Catholics are stupid and don't understand their faith (which I suppose is true for a lot of us, but still not most).
It's kind of sad to see in all honesty :(
There are many phoney, protestant morons too. He should be fair. He thinks he is doing God's will. He causes a lot of division in the body of Christ in my opinion. I guess we should pray God will open his eyes to the truth.
No such thing as a catholic christian.
We all have sinned including Mary. That I do know.
Call no man father. Correct!
@@keithpritz1347 lol sectarian go take your schizophrenia medication
Thank you for this rebuttal video, Trent!
I really hate these old arguments against catholicism that when looked at honesty or given more than 1 sec of research are easily explained or shown to be plain bad. Especially the "we took out the 2nd commandment" and "don't call someone father". Keep up the great work trent
Or saying Catholicism is influenced by paganism 😩
My thoughts exactly
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There's never an example what did paganism influence in Catholicism and what pagan group exactly
@@davidstrelec610 Where I came from, the paganism the other side (non-Catholic) is usually bringing up is anything to do with Pope, the mitre, the title, the crooks - all of which are then used by muslims and atheists too to attack Catholics and Catholicism.
@@davidstrelec610 GOOGLE Catholicism and Paganism.
I am a Protestant, I used to hold these same views, and while I do disagree with some things in the Catholic faith, they're honestly quite minor and not worthy of really discussing. The reason I'm Protestant has a lot to do with upbringing and the traditions I greatly appreciate in this expression of my faith. I have jokingly said to friends "if I wasn't Protestant I would be catholic" not to demeen the Catholic church, but to instead say "I would be a Christian no matter what, there is no world in which I would not be".
I used to believe a number of the things discussed in this video. I greatly appreciated your insight. Over the years I've grown to respect and admire Roman Catholicism more and more, I count you all as my fellow Christians, and as the elder relatives in the faith who i can learn a great deal from. I am even currently listening to the Confessions by St Augustine and my mind is continually blown by it.
I hope my catholic brothers and sisters don't take offence to my being Protestant, and believing differently than they do, since I think we are simply different parts of the same body, gifted and called to do different things. The more I learn the more respect and admiration I gain. There's a great deal we can learn from one another, thank you for continuing my education, and I will subscribe to listen more.
Glad you aren't ignorant but I wouldn't toss out the idea of conversion just yet
Well as u continue to study Catholicism, you’ll realize , Jesus Christ founded one Church with authority.
Conversion is inevitable
May God help u in your journey
I suppose I don’t see the need to convert if I am already a Christian. I can submit myself even to some degree to the authority of the magisterium as I understand it, particularly of the church fathers, but I think I am too much of an individualist, even if I have traditionalist leanings, to “convert” to Catholicism. As I said, if we are both Christians, of different sects and tertiary beliefs, then there is no reason to convert. We both follow Christ, we both believe in the same trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who proceeds from both the Father and the Son, and of the same confession, that Christ was Born of the Virgin Mary, who lived a life as a Man, fully God and fully Man, was sinless and without fault perfectly submitted to the will of the Father, died the death of the cross, and rose again on the 3rd day and ascended into heaven. So… yea. It seems to me there is nothing to which I can convert, since I am already in Christ. I am not a Mormon or a Jehovah’s Witness, I am descended of the same western church, even if we separated at some point in there. The same Christ. The same Faith. Different expressions of that same faith.
@@hamasathecold7842 You are right. U don’t need to convert. You need to come back home
Different expressions of the same faith is not how Jesus Christ came to establish his Church
He did not say He would establish different churches that disagree on fundamentals of Christianity
He said He would build one
Upon Peter
I understand your background might make it hard for you to become Catholic
But it’s not a good idea to rationalize something as something else to make you feel good. Because the truth is written in stone
Either you are in all the way or out
I think I will leave the conversation here. Since it seems to me to have become something less than what it started as.
Remember everyone, the devil will tell you 9 truths to sell you one lie. No matter how 'loving and kind' Ray comes across, he's intentionally leading people away from salvation in the one true Church of God.
I was raised a Protestant which lead me to become and Atheist. I was baptised into the Catholic Church last year.
Protestantism is just humanist narcissism dressed up in religious terms. They worship themselves and their own ability to understand and interpret the Bible. They are not capable of humbling themselves before God's revealed truth because it makes them uncomfortable so they either interpret the Bible to suit their preconceived ideas or they shop around for a version of 'Christianity' that fits in with those preconceived ideas.
Welcome home!
@@LauraBeeDannon thank you! It's the best thing I have ever done!
Very well said! So happy you are home now. Salvation is a journey. Enjoy walking the road daily with Jesus. I was also raised in a hard core evangelical fundamentalist protestant church and home. I am now the only Catholic in my family. I am home, and nothing will ever make me leave.
Well said Nick !! Glad to have you in our family !
@@amyakins1284 thank you Amy :-) I wish you luck with your family, I know it can be difficult.
Thank you for finally responding to Ray Comfort! He's been on my radar for quite awhile and, honestly? The thing about him that annoys me the most is how condescending he is. He talks to everyone like he's talking to some sort of child. I'd think it was just his accent, but I don't mind others who also have that accent, so I'm more prone to think he's being condescending. And when he asks people if they're born again? I seriously wanna run into him at some point just so that I can say. "Yes, I am born again. I'm a Catholic Christian, born again of water and spirit. And yes, I read my Bible daily. I trust in Jesus Christ with all my heart and soul that I am saved. Have a nice day, sir", then just walk away before he can say anything else XD 'Cause Catholics ARE, as they say, "born again", and I don't like when "born again" Christians try to say we're not just by taking that label for themselves.
But then he would just edit you out of his video and pretend that it never happened...and move on to a clueless catholic. 🤷♀️
@@Pratsg86 I know, but it would just be for the giggled. Lol. I know there's gotta be a ton of Catholics who actually know their faith who he edits out, and that drives me even more crazy. But he has an agenda, and to let people see that there are actually Catholics who go against his narrative would be problematic for him.
There's only one, yet incredibly important detail that you need to correct. As Catholics, we do not believe that we "are saved." We know if we are "saved" if we go to heaven, after our death. There is no way for us to know whether we are going to go to heaven or not, lest we can see whose name is written in the Book of Life.
@@csongorarpad4670 True. My apologies, I'm just bad with wording. I was trying to portray that I know that Jesus died for me and that I have faith in God's infinite mercy and grace. You are right, though. After all, the Bible does say that we ARE saved, that we're BEING saved, and that we WILL be saved in 3 different tenses. We are saved, and yet we are also still working towards salvation, and can't know for absolute certainty until the time comes. We can have faith, though, because that is what Jesus asks of us. For our faith.
@@mikaelacash3791 The issue is that protestants have a different idea of what "saved" entails. If you engage in a conversation with them then they will assume that you use think of salvation in the same manner that they do - Which you and I, as Catholics, don't.
Excellent video. Thanks for setting the record straight. This guy Comfort, picks on ignorant people who have almost zero understanding of the Catholic Church. I hope people repent of their sin and start walking in Christ.
I love the Reformers. I left the Catholic Church for 7 years and was fed. Came back to the Catholic Faith and started a Bible study. WE DO NOT know the Word of God as we should. That needs to change! Get into the scriptures, daily!
Just because the Catholic Church isn’t active in bible study didn’t mean reformers were right. They taught false doctrine.
I'm not Roman Catholic Church member I'm a Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Jesus everything I've read the Bible at least 4 times it's a exciting book there was a living faith in old testament times they all looked forward to a prophet that would come or more than a prophet Jesus Christ there was a lot ceremonials in there worship similar to today Catholic mass burning of incense a table in front of altar golden cup the Catholics altered the 10 commandments especially the 3 rd thou shalt not make graven images they also change Matthew 28 19 was Changed by the RCC in second century it was originally written go ye therefore and teach all nations in my Name they don't practice Acts 2 38 they don't encourage there fallowers to study the Bible they teach there own gimmicks catacheism sacraments baby baptism which is wrong they baptized people who don't repent there just getting WET
A guy in a suit with a Bible is not Christianity.
Amen
I would pay good money to see Trent and Ray have a full on discussion. With all due respect to Ray, his points made against Catholicism are and have always been incredibly simplistic and with simple research, could be squashed immediately.
Perhaps a dialogue episode between the two would be fantastic. I genuinely like Ray, I just think he's flat out wrong and either spreads lies intentionally or he's just not serious about addressing the Catholic position.
Ray wouldn’t do it, people who rely on lies and distortions don’t want to be called to account
@@SammyJ.. I agree. I think even just the public outreach would be good.
Ray wouldn’t debate a well informed Catholic in a million years.
I'm a Protestant who's listened to almost 50 years of ridicul9usoies & nonsense about Catholicism, & in my experience with people like Ray Comfort, they're always lying or misrepresenting facts, & they know they're lying, but think it's ok because they know the true word of God. Protestants who have never spoken with a well-cathecized Catholic truly believe they're telling the truth they were taught at church or by their family because they've never been given the true facts. Anti-Catholicism is one part of the KKK's trinity of hate: Jews & African-Americans make up the other spots. When it comes to most Southerners & evangelical Christians & this anti-Catholic narrative, the South is pre-Civil War & Catholics are lucky to be 3/5 a person. I wasn't raised with any anti-Catholic beliefs, so the hatred & ignorance constantly blow my mind. It's due to EWTN & people like Trent that I can speak the truth now when I hear bigotry & ignorance against Catholics. Thank you, Trent!
Ray is a street preacher. I don’t think it would be useful since his biblical standing is that of a layman and not a biblical scholar. Trent has a more of a scholarly approach. Some well informed Protestant scholar would be more worthwhile for the discussion.
Time fore a Trent Horn and Ray Comfort debate
Those evangelical protestants attention seeking and money grover they don't debate they don't want to lose follower and money because in the moment they debate a catholic apologist they would be embarrassed and their lies will be expose
Excellent rebuttal!!!
Thanks for doing this video, I'm going to link it to every video of Living Waters when he disses Catholic's from now on. I would like to see him reply but don't think that will ever happen, as he picks people that don't know the Faith! God Bless you Trent.
This man (ray) is a poster child for all the ignorance and techniques we despise. Plus, what leads to anger or resentment in some people as well as exhaustion due to the amount of ignorance we must listen too. Apologists included. 🙄 😪
I totally agree. I posted a comment 8 days ago on Living waters 'She laughed at first...' video.
I got an obscene reply back from living waters. It justified my first comment....Ray and his gang are nothing but charlatans.
And by "this man" you mean Ray Comfort? I am confused.
@@paquitojhs Yes, ‘this man’ being Ray Comfort…the entertainers clown, a fool of sorts, but business often is.
@@paquitojhs yes
You don’t like anger or resentment nd this is how you talk about Ray?
Thank you Trent, I love your patient and respect when talked and respond to this characters, that honestly make me love my Catholic Christian church more and more. I pray for them 🙏🏻📿
It's so funny to see Catholics twisting themselves like a pretzel to twist Bible Scriptures to fit their man-made narrative to come up with so ridiculous statements that even the answers they come up with contradict itself to prove that Mary only had one son where the Bible clearly says that she had fours sons and daughters with Joseph after Jesus Christ was born. The Bible says sons and daughters here the Catholics twist that word to say cousins what a lie from the pit of hell.
Please show me where it says in the Bible that Joseph was married before he married Mary and those were his children from his first wife. You will not find it anywhere in the Bible and why do Catholics like to make false stories and lies all the time? Get real will you and stop lying. Liars will have their part in the lake of fire. You are playing with fire and you might end up in it if you keep lying.
Mary and Joseph were very young she was about in her teen years and Joseph was just about the same. Two young Jewish couples that both came in the same lineage as King David.
You know Ray Comfort is a joke when an athiest destroys him in a debate.
Trent - Thanks again for presenting at our High School in Texas several months ago... Awesome... I've been wanting to reach out to Ray, but he has COMMENTS Turned OFF. I love Ray's Spirit to hit the pavement/beach and open peoples hearts. Tough to watch him when he gets so much wrong... I'm glad you did a Point-by-Point to walk through Scripture with his 20th century Sola Scriptura process. It's tough for me to see so many people (theologians) talk about the Blessed Virgin Mary as just another woman without regard to her true place in salvation history.... Nice Job. Jim Cummings
Please debate him in person, he's annoying with attacking Catholics constantly.
Ray Comfort won’t debate an expert Catholic
@@PInk77W1 you go to far using the word “Expert” he can’t debate a practicing Catholic
@@officialkodhark1075 haha. Very true.
A linguistic aside on the argument around, "...call no one on earth your father." If the earliest Christians - not to mention the Councils that gave us the Canon - had believed that Jesus meant what Protestants like to claim, the word "father" in European languages would long ago have been reserved for God and other terms would have been coined to refer to male parents. The influence of the Church in the codification of language was simply too great for this to slip by. It's beyond reasonable to believe that the Church blessed and included the Gospel of Matthew - with 23:9 in tact - and nonchalantly kept referring to priests as "Father."
I would love to see Ray Comfort speak with a knowledgeable Catholic and stop his dislike towards Catholicism.
In the Bible it actually says that Mary and Joseph didn’t consummate the marriage until after the birth of Jesus. She was not perpetual virgin. The Bible also says only ONE is sinless, Christ Jesus.
It cracks me up when people get mad at the groupings of the commandments
I believe Ray's heart is in the right place, I hope. I think they're either not taught, or conveniently forget who compiled the Bible in the first place. Roughly 300 years beforehand there was tradition, apostolic succession, and the sacraments to name a few... Many people also associate wrongdoings of men in the Church with our faith. Good job Mr. Trent.
Brilliant analysis Trent. Glad to have you on our team.
The one in this video evidently uses John 3:5 to make an argument for the importance of a water baptism in ones salvation. If I’m correct in his intent then he omits the context. In this story, Nicodemus is confused about being born again. Jesus teaches the Rabbi by describing the dichotomy between the flesh and spirit. Being born of flesh and of spirit. Being born in water and Spirit. When seeing this passage in its proper context one can deduce that being born of flesh and of water are connected in Jesus’ teaching and the importance of being born in the Spirit as opposed to flesh and water which could be the means of how one is born of the flesh... in water. Context is important. Without it all you have is pretext 😀👍
Actually the water here is associated with the spirit. The flesh is associated with the 1st blood birth. Notice, Nicodemus is asking how a grown man can be born a SECOND time. So the first birth of flesh and blood is done. The second birth with water and spirit is being born again. John makes this distinction quite clear between blood and water.
John 1:13 which were born, 👉🏻 *not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh* 👈🏻, nor of the will of man, but of God.
The first birth is of blood 👆🏼 not water.
1 John 5:7 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, 👉🏻 *and the blood* 👈🏻 and these three agree in one.
First birth of blood 👆🏼 second birth of water. Jesus was born of Mary's flesh and blood. Jesus was baptized in the Jordan River/Water.
The water in John 3:5-6 is referring to baptism and the physical act of being born again. Without actually entering the womb AGAIN as a grown man. Water and spirit goes together, like blood and flesh of the first birth.
Thanks for rebutting the conman Ray Comfort
Joseph is a vigrin also. Brothers in old days means cousins.
Yes. Plus is Mary had so many sons, why does Jesus give her over to his beloved disciple on Calvary.
27As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and blessed are the breasts that nursed You!” 28But He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.” 2 You can listen to Catholic lies all you want. but Jesus Himself silenced the first veneration attempt.
Exodus 20 is a chapter in the Bible that contains the Ten Commandments. The chapter begins with Moses telling the people not to fear, as God has come to prove them1. The Ten Commandments are as follows2:
You must not have any other gods besides Jehovah.
You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like anything that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth.
You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them.
You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way.
Remember the Sabbath day to keep it sacred.
Why have Catholics removed the 2nd commandment?
Respond if you want more Catholic lies exposed. May God bless everyone and save the lost
The papacy is a gift from God
Just once, I would like it if one of these people would post a video of themselves running into a Catholic who actually knew their stuff.
So would I but it'll never happen.
ATB
Would be better to put ads all at beginning and end. Some people give up watching an ad in the middle. ❤
Protestants do know that it was ordered that the Ark of the Covenant had a couple of Cherubim, right?
And 2 huge statues of Cherubim in the Holy of Holies in the Temple in between which the Arc was placed, images of Cherubim on the walls and gate, the brazen sea held up by 12 bronze bulls outside the temple, and God also commanded Moses to make a bronze serpent and put it on a stick.
Great argument for that topic though but nah the ignorance will be overwhelming. God also commands Moses to create the bronze serpent if you recall.
I am a strong catholic but we can't say that us sinning is fine just because we have sacraments like baptism and confession. These are major aids for our salvation but if we still have an unrepentant mind we are doing these sacraments in vain. In the same way we may forgive someone and not choose to trust them as a friend after, God can do that too. We must submit to God and resist the Devil as it says in James. If we submit to God and give ourselves fully to Him then we will have the strength to stop sinning. We aren't called to kind of repent. We aren't called to just pray for forgiveness and hope for the best. We are called to be in union with God. If we go against this and say we can continue to go on an on sinning just because we have confession then we aren't true Catholics nor real children of God. As it says in 1 John 3:3-8
"Everyone who has this hope in Christ keeps himself pure, just as Christ is pure. Whoever sins is guilty of breaking God's law, because sin is a breaking of the law. You know that Christ appeared in order to take away sins, and that there is no sin in him. So everyone who lives in union with Christ does not continue to sin; but whoever continues to sin has never seen him or known him. Let no one deceive you, my children! Whoever does what is right is righteous, just as Christ is righteous. Whoever continues to sin belongs to the Devil, because the Devil has sinned from the very beginning. The Son of God appeared for this very reason, to destroy what the Devil had done."
Protestantism is a beautiful safety net for a lot of Catholics and keeps them from falling headfirst into epicurean sin. That said, no one should sit in a safety net their whole life 😅
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Ray Comfort isn't Protestant. He's jewish
He ain't Jewish, he is as protestant as they come, he can call himself Hindu if it makes him feel better better, but the fact remains he subscribes to the satanic protestant doctrine of sola fide, so the proof is pudding...
You can polish a 💩 as much as you like , but it still remains a 💩.
There it is. Just totally unabashed ethnic prejudice. Who cares if hes half ethnically jewish. Hes a christian... if he converts to catholicism would you still hold this prejudicial view? Insane people think this is some kind of an argument
@@eg4848 lol not too bright are you?
@@eg4848 what? My comment has nothing whatsoever to do with ethnicity. Judaism is not a race or ethnicity.
And so are many Catholics, including the first ones.
Holy hell his dialogue around the 23 minute mark was awful to listen to.
If Mary had other children it would have made no sense for Jesus to give her to John to care for as Mother. That responsibility would have gone to her eldest son after Jesus. Their obviously wasn't one.
What's the sinners prayer? When I googled it, it tells me, "It's a prayer a person says to request forgiveness for our sins." And this idea is everywhere in scripture.
Why does every false teacher have 1K books behind him, ever notice that? Like, “I’m time smartest guy in the room “, no!! Read and study the Bible! Pray to God for discernment.
I would love for the two to talk that would be fun to watch
Thank you thank you thank you
Good job trent! 👍👍
Personally, I have never understood why anyone would pray to ordinary men (or women) because it is written "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". We need God. We should act accordingly. He has given us His son as a remembrance of His affection for us. Who was it that said "This is my commandment that you love one another that your joy may be full"? I long to see the day when we can put aside our petty differences and be about the work of the Father.
Great commentary, Trent, as always. I think Ray Comfort also needs to be called out for asking people to reveal their consciences to him and to the whole world on camera. He insists that this practice is biblical simply because Jesus says, “Repent.” But neither Jesus nor the disciples ever grills anyone about the ways in which they’ve broken the moral law as outlined by the Ten Commandments, much less in public. Given Ray’s humiliating mode of evangelizing, there is irony in his condemnation of the practice of confessing one’s sins to a priest. For Ray goes far beyond the priest by surprising unsuspecting interlocutors to reveal their secret conscience and then publishes their confession in the World Wide Web! He hunts down these people day after day and makes money from these videos. The priest, however, simply makes himself available for a private confession at no charge. Such availability respects one’s freedom. As in Jesus’s parable, the priest waits patiently for prodigal sons and daughters to confess whenever they wish with whatever words they wish.
I just want to say that I am a Jew who believes in Jesus and I speak Hebrew. "I have to do. To you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God is within you, and you have overcome the evil one. " John B.'s first From this it is clear that the intention is for the whole community and not just for fathers and not for spiritual fathers at all
In addition it is written "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water beneath." According to the rules of the Biblical Hebrew language it is forbidden to kiss and bow to any statue or image anywhere Therefore it is impossible to interpret in how many directions it is forbidden to bow to a forbidden statue !!
I'm pretty much getting sick and tired of listening to these Protestant whatever they are and talking about statues and worshipping them as idols. It shows total ignorance. Any psychologist will tell you that a picture is worth a thousand words. . Have you ever gone on a vacation and when you return back told everybody what a great time you had but it wasn't until you saw the pictures and or the video that you really had a closer understan.ding of where you were. That's what these statues are to me.A 3D picture of sainted men and women who devoted their lives for Christ. Many met a horrible martyred death by muslims mongols, etc. All for their love and devotion to Our Lord. If not for their sacrifices and deep faith, their could very well be no Christianity today. So dont mok or degrade them , Honour them for their unwavering love of our Lord
Amen I agree with you. Martyred by heretics too (protestants).
I feel the same way. My mind tends to wander too much, but having an image keeps me focused or at least keeps my thoughts on track.
Plus, God blesses people in a wide range if talents. Why shouldn’t someone give honor to God and His servants by creating inspiring images? I’m definitely not one of those blessed with artistic talent, but I admire those who are.
Whoever is on that picture or statue is NOT Jesus or Mary. Why? Do you know how they looked like? So stop downgrading God to a human imagination of Him. It's blasphemous. You're bowing down in front of false depiction of God. A man made false god and you're to blind to see it because it makes you feel good. That's spot on idolatry. Wake up!
I'm gonna draw a picture of your mother right now even though I haven't seen her once in my life. Would you be okay with me going around telling people that this picture represents your mother? I doubt it. And your mom would be offended too.
Christ binds himself to the sacraments, but that is not to say that he's bound by them. He can forgive and save outside of the Catholic Church. These schisms are tiresome.
Trent basically said that as well
@@hunterkarr5618 I love my Catholic Church, but my only issue is using Mary as a mediator to God
@@andrewcrossman2165 Keep searching scriptures and you will see more deception from the CC.
Why is Mary and Joseph having children after Jesus problematic?
Emotional appeal is popular but can't endure when it's not rooted in the Truth. Ray Comfort is a bit comfortable with his emotional manipulation.
Technically, the second commandment itself does not say no images can be used. It says images should not be made "for yourself." A story in Joshua 22 shows that "for yourself" means making something for selfish reasons. So technically, the commandment itself allows for non-selfish usage of images.
FYI.... I was born Catholic raised Catholic and I never had a priest molest me.... I actually liked my priest, we would Shoot pellet guns together.... Nevertheless......Why didn't you read John 3:3.???
The water and the Spirit is not baptism!!! The water is the mothers womb water, the Spirit is of God!!!
You and I had nothing to do with either one, no good works for either one....
2 births my lost friend...
The 1st one is of the womb the 2nd 1 is of God. Context,Context,Context Nickodemus is who Jesus was speaking to in the context in John 3. Jesus was correcting Nicodemus like Rays trying to correct you.
You need to be humble and listen....
Next.... Baptism is a CEREMONY, a CEREMONY IS A WORK!!!!! A work is keeping the law!!!! Please listen to what God's word says........ He who stumbles in one part of the law is guilty of all... James 2:10.
He who is seeking to be justified by the law has fallen from grace. Galatians 5:4.
To the one who does not work but believes in HIM who justifies the ungodly his faith is credited as righteousness.
Romans 4:5 .
You can get The Bible to say anything you want to say if you take it out of context!!!! You ought not do that!!!! All false religions and cults Add works to the free gift of God. In order to do that they add extra books... Deauteronomy 4:2. Says don't do that!!!!!!!
You're not saved by works we're saved by God's grace not 99% but 100% and because we're saved that's what produces the good works. Huge, huge, huge mistake if you get that wrong. God-bless🙏
Roman Catholicism is an abomination!!!!
Repent and believe the gospel...Acts 17:30.
That verse Matthew 23:9 is a call to the spiritual life and to the Kingdom of heaven as your only home. Jesus said whoever does not leave his Mother and Father is not worthy of me. He also said who is my Mother and brothers when they were waiting outside for Jesus. Mark 3:31-35... For whoever does the will of God, he is my brother and sister and mother.
That's why Matthew said call no man on earth your father.
Interesting observation.
I wonder if there is a word for when Jesus says those kind of hard family denying things.
It's ironic ANYTIME a protestant talks about the Bible considering it is a Catholic book explaining our religion. When I ask protestants how God fell asleep for 1400 years for Martin Luther to come along and start cutting out books and that all Christians until then were wrong according to them, they start to have a blank stare. Pray for these people, they need it.
The Corinthian Church knew that 1 and 2 Corinthians (for example) were canonical as soon as the Holy Spirit and the human author wrote them. The same is true for all Churches that received Books and Epistles from Apostles. Other books not of the Holy Spirit and true human author were rejected by their intended audiences in the primitive Church.
For example the Peshittas, which have no relationship to papism or even later councils, do not include the "gospel" of Thomas. St. Thomas and his immediate disciples did evangelize the Assyrian Church of the East, but he didn't author any "gospel" to them.
The Tawahedo Canon, the Peshitta Canon, the Greco-Russian Canon, The Papal Canon, and the Protestant Canon all differ. They all share the Homologoumena books and all have discrepancies among Antilegomena books to this very day. Luther did not remove books. He merely preserved the historic distinction between universally received books and disputed books.
So we can dismiss the exaggerated claim that a couple of councils magically created one definitive canon one day.
Homologoumena has always been accepted by Assyrian Church of the East, Miaphysites, Palamists, Protestants, and Papists from the time of the Apostles until today. Even the Popes don't fret that Byzantine Catholics chant the portions of their longer canon in their Holy Liturgy. Antilegomena books do not present a challenge to Anglican or Lutheran protestants because they don't contradict their doctrines anywhere.
There are so, so many eye-roll and head shaking-worthy statements, sayings, and long ago-refuted claims in Ray "Comfort"'s video. Cannot stand him, and there is nothing of "comfort" in what he says.
Thank you for doing these videos. They're so very helpful. I wish you would come to the Chat program - Paltalk - In the Christian section. The Voice of God room and or A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. I try my best to be an apologist for the church and its true teachings but could really use someone like you! Especially when Matt Slick comes on lol GBU and the work you do. Your sister in Christ, Tereese3
Although i like Ray's work, i disagree on some of his teachings.
I would like to thank you Trent for the clarifications. God bless both of you ☦️ .
I hope we can all find peace one day.
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As someone who was raised by a Protestant pastor my entire life (and recently converted to Catholicism), I must say - no Protestant or Evangelical of ANY denomination “bow and kneel before [a nativity scene] when praying during Christmas”. 😳 That would be completely against their beliefs….the thought to do so would never even ENTER their minds. In fact, family members would think they had gone insane if they saw a member of their family doing so. Absolutely not.
They use them purely for decoration *only*.
Why isn't simply having them in their possession a sin?
Do catholic church believe in salvation through faith and faith alone.
Save through faith, to good works.
Revelation 22 7And behold I am coming soon blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book
Kirk Cameron Saves Christmas is an awesome movie.
Re Mary that's nit picking. "ALL have fallen short of the glory of God." "None are good. NOT ONE".
How do we "receive Christ as an infant..." like you said? Infants can not repent, neither do they need to because Jesus called all Children to Himself. My friend, no where in the Bible does it state that the Holy Spirit comes through water baptisim, not saying it can't happen at the moment of baptisim, but there's nothing supernatural in the water...it's only and always in Christ. I was Born Again of the Holy Spirit years before my baptisim, baptisim is a step of obedience and be outspoken about what Christ has done in your life through Salvation...a chance to declare to others who your Savior is. It's a symbol of dying to self, and being raise to Life in Him.
*_I was Born Again of the Holy Spirit years before my baptisim_*
I mean no disrespect by this question but could you prove it please?
The reason I ask is because you are misrepresenting the Sacraments here. I totally agree that *_"there's nothing supernatural in the water...it's only and always in Christ."_*
The Church teaches the sacraments are an outward sign instituted by Christ to give us grace…….. The sacraments receive their power to give grace from God, through the merits of Jesus Christ. This is based on the actions and teaching of Jesus. Read about Jesus physical cures in the Bible. He used outwards signs to perform a deeper more lasting spiritual healing. Notice he used physical means. Mud, spittle, spoken words, and eye contact….. WHY? Because he knows as human beings we learn through our senses. So he brought it down to our level. God created us to learn through our senses, so it makes perfect sense that He set the sacraments up to appeal to our humanity.
So when Jesus says “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. We don't think there is something supernatural in the water. The water is the outward sign that Jesus provided for us to know we have received the promise of the Holy Spirit. Notice Jesus used the word AND here. The word AND is used to connect words of the same part of speech, clauses, or sentences, that are to be taken jointly. He said Water AND Spirit, He connected them just like He connected other outward signs to the healings He performed in the Bible.
Once again I mean no disrespect but if I am right that this is the way Jesus set it up (Water AND Spirit) then I can prove with visible tangible evidence (given to me from Jesus) so all can see that I have received the Holy Spirit. So other than because you said so, where is your evidence that you were Born Again of the Holy Spirit?
God Bless
One question for Ray Comfort and all these protestant evangelists, why is it that most Catholics (even the poorly catechised ones) are so steadfast in sticking to catholicism and rejecting protestantism?
In the words of St Peter, "Lord to whom can we go? You have the words of eternal life"
Matt Duin You are asking just like Muslim, "Why Islam is spreading fast if it was false religion?" You may be steadfast in your Catholicism and rejecting protestantism, and yet do not know Jesus as your Savior Correct?
@@childofgod4862 Muslims are taught that if you question Islam you are not a muslim. Catholicism has a rich depth of history and writings explaining the faith, because understanding comes by learning and asking questions. Faith and reason go hand in hand.
Why do protestants always accuse others of "not knowing Jesus as your Savior". As catholics we know Christ in depths protestants can only wish they knew Him.
@@mattduin7144 My friend, my point was you as a Catholic person, give importance to Mary and pray to Mary Correct? So why pray to Mary instead of talking directly with God the Father?
If you want discuss the history of Roman Catholics we will do that later but for now we are talking about praying to Mary instead of God the Father Ok?
@@childofgod4862 this should answer your questions. Catholic Answers, Trent Horn and Fr Mike Schmitz all have fantastic explanations to your objections to Catholicism. God bless you
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I thank Ray Comfort for bringing me out of my atheism and putting me on the path that led me BACK TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ✝️
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Praying to the Saints is idolatry, praying to Mary IS idolatry, the pope is NOT Jesus and priests CANNOT absolve you of your sin! Just those 4 TRUTHS are enough to keep me out of the "catholic faith"
@@platinum6978 asking for the Mother of God to intercede for us and asking for the saints to intercede for us is not idolatry. Worshiping false gods is idolatry. Jesus gave the Church the power to absolve and retain sins and it’s clearly stated in the scriptures. You should try reading the Bible and go off by what it actually says instead of inserting your personal interpretation into it.
It is really hard listening to Ray oversimplify faith.
On gosh how can Protestants see themselves as intellectually honest. That guy at 3:30 butchers Scripture. They just twist and take liberties any way they want! This is NOT Holy Spirit revelation or discernment. The stuff these Protestants are doing is so obviously wrong it has to be of diabolical influence. A smart child could see thru the stuff they say
Lol!! It’s IS simple! You are saved by grace through faith
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No, Ray uses simplicity in support of his errors. If you receive grace through faith you will perform the loving works which will save you. That would agree with Jesus in Matt 25:31-36. Was Jesus right or was he lying?
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I agree that Ray has a lot of bad doctrine, but God still uses him. I reject everything or most everything the Reformers taught, mainly sole fide. You are right that without obedience to Christ we are not his sheep. We are also to avoid judging others as we are not called to separate the wheat from the tares.
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You: but God still uses him.
Me: God also used Satan for his purposes so that fact does not mean anything positive by itself.
You: We are also to avoid judging others as we are not called to separate the wheat from the tares.
Me: I am to judge truth from error but not anyone's soul. I hope Ray is saved. I hope he is not judged harshly for attacking Jesus his whole life.
Not fed as a Roman Catholic? Uhhh...the EUCHARIST????
IKR. It's a shame.
I said the same thing before I reconverted. Say a prayer for these people, it's holy week after all. Pray for conversions, pray for impossible conversions.
Ya unfortunately , this couple think Mass is supposed to entertain vs. a participation in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Clearly poorly catechized
@@dorakinwarhammer2946 And sadly, very common.
By "not fed," she meant not spiritually fed. No scripture, no Word of God, no Gospel from the Catholicreligion. The Eucharist does not feed.
Only scripture 👍
Why don't they go with the interpretations of the earliest Christians? Surely they would interpret the Bible better than protestants over a thousand years later who interpreted things specifically to be anti-Catholic.
Evangelical Christians can get militant and weird. I think they believe the church started in America they refuse to see the whole of the world.
Exactly. One of the arguments I use from the Bible is that Christ said he would build his church. Implying that it would be founded then obviously so why are we paying attention to people who came far later claiming everyone else is wrong? Our Lord said he would build his church not let's wait over a thousand years and then once people start misinterpreting everything shall my church begin.
On this rock I will build my church... The rock is mount of philippi....NOT Peter.
It's evident when you realise what early Jewish people believed about mount of philippi.
I'm a Catholic but if someone says that Catholic Church is the main or only church because of Peter... It's wrong.
@@mirkoboi Peter is literally rock
@@TheThreatenedSwan His name is rock. But when Jesus was talking about building church he wasn't talking about him.
“Did you read the Bible as a Catholic?”
“Not really.”
Uh, not the Church’s fault. And if you’re attending Mass as you’re supposed to, there’s SO MUCH scripture in the Liturgy alone.
And paying attention during Mass! if you treat it like just something to get out of the way you miss the whole thing.
Most of the Catholics or 99% of the Catholics never read their Bible and it's the fault of the Catholic church.Try to see the Catholics beyond the borders of the United States and you will see how rotten Catholicism is.
@@TheCrusaderPub Which is what I used to do.
My hunch is that she was either not going to Mass, or at the least not listening.
@@samruggiero1778 gotta be one or the other, lol!
Ironically, Ray Comfort is in great part responsible for me becoming Catholic. We must pray for him...
The Bible is sufficient on its own. It doesn't need to be changed in any way. As a matter of fact there's warnings in the bible about this topic
@@dekorokone I'd be very fascinated to know where in the Bible it says that the Bible is sufficient on its own. Further, I'd be fascinated to know where in the Bible it tells us what books should be in the Bible? The Church preceded the canon of the Bible by nearly 400 years... How did the early Church survive without the Bible? The answer is the Church. Jesus left a Church, not a Bible. The Church provided the Bible, based on what She saw was inspired, and useful. Changing the Bible didn't happen until after the "Reformation", when several Protestant sects decided to remove several books. Is your warning aimed at them?
@@Brennandh7777 Ok lets use your comment of, " I'd be very fascinated to know where in the Bible it says that the Bible is sufficient on its own."
I would be very fascinated to know where the CC is mentioned in the Bible. Then we can move on to where Mary is sinless, assumed, and that Peter is the first pope
Yep Catholics changed the commandments.
@@Brennandh7777 Are you a fan of Andy Stanley and believe what he believes ? Your opinion,
The more I hear these stock protestant objections over and over again, the more confident I get in the truth of Catholicism.
exactly! the Orthodox have some very strong arguments in their favour but the protestant's arguments are so feeble, unintellectual and indeed un-Biblical.
@@marcokite Very strong arguments? Like what?
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol Orthodox and Catholics have very very similar beliefs with minor distinctions. Of course papal infallibility and the Primacy of the pope is the biggest one however Catholic and Orthodox Christians are much more unified given that we come from the same Apostolic succession and lineage
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol Papal forgeries for example 😏
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol I'd say that the primacy of Rome is objectively a tough debate, each side had their own set of Church Fathers who had divergent views, etc.
Great work Trent. I’m getting baptized during Easter Vigil!
Welcome aboard!
God bless and welcome home.
What a great news.God bless
Welcome Home ❤❤❤
Praise be Jesus Christ!
I appreciate this. As a former protestant who is now Catholic, praise be to God! I struggled with these same issues. I prayed for God to show me the truth and HE did. The CATHOLIC church is the true church!!
God told you to go to temples full o0f graven images? I doubt that.
Popes has a history of seducing kids that boasting for Pope shows what you like.
@@bobdobbs943that's a weird thing to say.
@@bobdobbs943who's graven image are you talking about? Do you know the difference between the word venerate vs worship?
God bless you I believe Catholic Church is the Church
Ray will NEVER take you up on your offer to debate, he only talks to people he can manipulate and whose vulnerable to a twist of theology.
What is your evidence for this claim?
@@gospeltruth6368 did you watch the video?
@@gospeltruth6368 have you ever seen Ray Comfort have any kind of debate or discussion with an actual Catholic apologist? He runs from them like a vampire running from Holy water.
I hope that you realize that guys who do this kind of "man on the street" videos only include interviews with people they can manipulate. Not ever any from someone who can actually challenge them.
@@gospeltruth6368 History, other Catholic folks have put that out there and he has never responded. That is why everyone is so excited to see Trent's rebuttal. Watch, he'll stay silent. I mean, I've enjoyed watching him get people thinking but he gives them the impression that all they have to do it "accept Christ" in their heart and then go on about their life like its just a sentence they have to say. I'm sure he's a nice guy, he is just spewing anti Catholicism like he knows anything about it and if he had any kind of balls, he would have a cordial dialogue with a Catholic apologist, not just people off the street who are fallen away or non-practicing Catholics.
@@jeffscully1347 I did
I've heard the counter arguments to these Protestant objections many times, but I learned something new by viewing this. If we group the two "covet" commandments as one (as the Protestants do) then we run the very real risk of viewing women (spouses) as objects to be owned. Clearly, there are two commandments here because we're dealing with two different sins (avarice and lust). Thanks, Trent!
Wow great incite!
The wisdom of St Augustine! God bless us with more like him, we have plenty of raw material!
Which is how the Jews viewed them. The commandment was only against coveting a neighbor's wife, thus Solomon was said to have a lot of wives and concubines. Why? Because if they weren't married women you didn't break the law, and women were only objects. Christ came and gave us the new Law, now even the thought of lust is equal to adultery, so you are not longer allowed to have more than one wife, because you would be committing adultery, Christ perfected the law and made it harder. Ask any protestant this and you will see how suddenly those commandments are now wrong. The Catholic view has always been the correct one.
So funny.... before seeing this video I was on living waters and argued exactly that a few weeks ago. I think it was a response to someone's comment and it wasn't as kind as it should have been as anyone attacking the faith makes me slightly "hulkish"
@@tony1685 no, it doesn't. It's only your extrapolation. To be honest, if something exposes you (I mean protestants in plural) as not christians is your suddenly appear centuries apart from the apostles. No verse can save your lack of roots back there when Christianity was born
Finally a catholic apologist reacted to Ray Comfort.
*Looking down the stairs* Catholic Truth- Hello there.
Bryan Mercier from Catholic Truth had already made a couple videos on Mr. Comfort.
@@JMJ1219 Thanks I will find those and watch
But Trent is telling a bold faced lie: 11:00. The catholic Church has removed 2nd commandment from their Bibles. He gives some nonsensical explanation that it is stated differently and people like you blindly and naively believe him. The 2nd commandment is not stated differently or anything but it is completely removed. Even a lay man can google search and find out.
@@sabhishek9289 , Trent Horn is not a cradle Catholic nor a Catholic by birth. He’s a former anti-Catholic Protestant who after much study became a Catholic convert.
So you might be mistaken to believe that he doesn’t know what he’s doing nor he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. He does.
As a former Catholic who spent almost 30 years in that Protestant teaching and who used to share the gospel Ray Comfort’s way, I am thrilled to be re-entering the Catholic Church! Discovering the doctrines held by protestants that were received from a German monk who broke from the church and even added to scripture in his Bible, (read the true story of the founder of the Protestant faith) to be unbiblical, and after seeing how these same protestants have misrepresented quite uncharitably what the Catholic Church teaches, I’m thrilled to be entering the Catholic Church with a full knowledge of what they teach and I am so excited to become a part of this beautiful biblical church once again. I am rejoicing as I come home.
Welcome home! What a great story... you'd probably make a great evangelist to Protestants. God bless you and your loved ones. :) And Happy Easter! Check out the Divine Mercy devotion; it's beautiful and the feast is coming up next Sunday.
@@Antonia_D Thank you, it’s great to be home! We have been praying the Divine Mercy Novena daily. I think you are right about evangelizing Protestants. My husband and I have already started, and feel like this is the ministry God has called us to. God bless you, and thanks again for the warm welcome. Happy Easter! He is risen!
@@CatholicNana That's terrific to hear. :) He is risen, indeed! God be with you on your journey. Sounds like the Holy Spirit is truly guiding you.
@@taylormatthews4848 If you read church history you wouldn’t make that false statement. There were bibles before Luther broke from the church. And Luther added a word to his Bible, and cracked down when people did what he encouraged them to do…be their own popes. What he really meant is agree with me, because I appointed myself pope.
That break from the church created chaos that gets worse each day. You have 30,000+ Protestant denominations that can’t agree on baptism, how we’re saved, leadership, worship style, how or if the a Holy Spirit works today, what we can and can’t eat, etc. You are a messy bunch that doesn’t hesitate to call others in the body of Christ heretics when they disagree with you. I highly doubt that was Christ’s intention.
To quote a highly respected Protestant theologian who became Catholic, "To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant." The doctrines held by the church were Catholic doctrines until the 16th century. So Christ’s church has been 100% Catholic for 3 times longer than she has had separated brethren who broke off after a tormented Augustinian monk couldn’t accept Gods love.
Welcome home
In the protestant Episcopal Church, lay persons in a parish refer to their Priest as "Father" who is the laity's spiritual leaders who are ordained under the Sacrament of Ordination of Holy Orders. As a recent Convert to Catholicism, our RCIA Director and Teacher used the Bible the entire way through our Catholic catechism. At every Mass there are 4 scriptures read: Old T, Psalm, New T, and Gospel, so the idea of not using the Bible in the Catholic Church is absurd.
When the mass service starts, there’s normally the procession of the cross bearer, the Gospel, and the priest (with some differences depending on the church). The Gospel is placed front and center on the altar, then represented during the Gospel acclaim and read from. Daily morning masses may forgo something like a procession, but the readings ALWAYS come from the Bible.
Anyone who truly believes Catholic don’t read or use the Bible at mass is either 1) severely uninformed or 2) purposefully lying.
I think they are targeting lapsed Catholics or very poorly taught faithful, who do not remember the Gospel reading at the heart of every Mass. It's sad and manipulative, straw manning the beliefs of one before another. We all do it to some degree unless we are extremely careful & knowledgable, but Comfort ought to know much better after so much exposure to Catholicism.
At EVERY Mass the Priest and the entire congregation STAND and the Priest says quietly "Cleanse my heart and my lips, almighty God that I may worthily proclaim your holy Gospel"
Then to the people:
Priest: The Lord be with you.
People: And with your spirit.
Priest: A reading from the holy Gospel according to (Matthew, Mark, Luke or John).
People: Glory to you, O Lord (while saying these words the people trace the sign of the cross on their forehead, lips and heart, so that the Word of God may be in my mind, my heart and my mouth).
The Gospel is read. At the end:
Priest: The Gospel of the Lord
People: Praise to you, Lord Jesus Christ.
Then the Priest kisses the scriptures saying quietly
"Through the words of the Gospel may our sins be wiped away".
The people sit and then listen to the Homily (preaching on the Word of God).
Before the Gospel the people listened to an Old Testament reading, a Psalm and a New Testament reading.
I strongly recommend you read, "A Biblical Walk Through the Mass" by Edward Sri.
If you're so smart then why do Popes has a history of seducing kids that your boasting for Pope shows what you seem to like?
I'm not even Roman Catholic (Eastern Orthodox), but this guy has absolutely no idea what he is talking about in regards to Roman Catholicism
Ray is a consummate dunce. His ignorance is willful because people have tried to correct him but he prefers his narrative.
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He knows what he is talking about. Perhaps that's why you take offense?
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Is he not allowed to take offense to heresy?
Are you talking about Ray or Trent?
I'm kind of an exevangelical, and seriously thinking to become catholic. I like to study theology and read the church fathers, and doing so and listening to serious catholic apologists, like you are, I realixed that many of the anticatholics teachings are no more(to be soft) that misconceptions about catholic theology. Thanks for your contribution
Nothing more confusing than someone who is confused. Sounds like satan is working overtime in this world with so many people like yourself. The bible talks about this and how cunning that he is because he is the ruler of this world. Pray the the true and Living God would guide you into truth. It isn't in the catholic church or other religions.
Being a christ follower has
nothing to do with being Catholic, or Baptist or evangelical the gospel is to all simple follow Jesus not a
religious organization. Follow truth in the spirit of Christ. I was rasied catholic when i was born agian of spirit and truth i saw the truth and repented of all false religious secs and listen and follow Jesus christ which means salvation power. Deliverance by truth in the power of the spirit of God
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Jesus did establish only ONE church. The rest were started by sinners in opposition the the one Jesus established. The issue comes down to one following Church in his church or following sinners instead. Sorry that Jesus was not enough for you.
What made you become an exevangelical? I'm not sure I like the label evangelical either, but I do consider myself a protestant. I have to ask myself, if the catholic tradition had gone wrong, what method do catholics have to know it? If I can't use the bible as a standard, then I am at the mercy of whatever the catholic leadership of the day is telling me, and that is unfalsafiable. If you are looking for a more historically focused protestant approach I recommend the lutheran church (and I'm not lutheran). They have a very similar service to catholicism, but they are submitted to God's Word first and the church leadership comes second.
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You: I have to ask myself, if the catholic tradition had gone wrong, what method do catholics have to know it?
Me: Against what standard could you possibly judge that the church had gone wrong? In the matters of teaching faith and morals it is impossible. Jesus promised that he would be with his church forever and, if that weren't enough, he said that the gates of hell would not prevail against his church. Then he promised that the spirit of truth would be with its leaders until the end of time. The Reformers failed to believe Jesus or trust the Holy Spirit.
I've been waiting too long for someone to call out Ray Comfort. He constantly attacks the Church if he comes across someone who is Catholic and he completely dumbfounds the ones who don't even know what the 4 Gospels are, yet he has never engaged a Catholic who can defend their faith. I don't dislike Ray though. He is actually a big reason why I started seeking out Christ in my life before I became Catholic, so I thank him for that, but ever since becoming Catholic I have never appreciated his videos he makes on Catholicism.
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In Syria, following the death of the last apostle, a guide for the teaching of Christians was written called the “Doctrine of the Apostles,” or the Didache. Its use was reported by church historians but the document itself was lost for centuries. It was found around 1900 in a manuscript dating back to the year 1000. The Didache taught: “On the Lord’s own day, gather together and break bread.” This is a clear reference invoking Christians to worship on Sunday written around the year 100.
In the year 110-only twelve years after the death of the last apostle-Ignatius, bishop of Antioch, calls the Sabbath “antiquated.” The full passage of the letter of Ignatius to the Magnesians, reads: “Do not be led astray by other doctrines nor by old fables which are worthless. For if we have been living by now according to Judaism, we must confess that we have not received grace. The prophets . . . who walked in ancient customs came to a new hope, no longer Sabbatizing but living by the Lord’s day, on which we came to life through Him and through His death.”
There is widespread belief among Christian scholars that the institution of Sunday worship occurred in the apostolic or post-apostolic age in commemoration of the Resurrection. The New Testament itself never calls Sunday the day of the Resurrection but consistently “the first day of the week.” Moreover, nowhere does the New Testament suggest that the Lord’s Supper was celebrated in commemoration of Christ’s Resurrection. Neither do the earliest post-apostolic writings invoke the Resurrection as a reason for Sunday worship.
The Epistle of Barnabas (A.D. 130-135) is the first explicit mention of Lord’s day worship being based on the Resurrection. Barnabas writes: “Finally He [God] says to them: ‘I cannot bear your new moons and Sabbaths.’ You see what he means: It is not the present Sabbaths that are acceptable to me, but the one that I have made; on that Sabbath day, which is the beginning of another world. This is why we spend the eighth day in celebration, the day on which Jesus both arose from the dead and, after appearing again, ascended into heaven.”
In the year 135 Jerusalem was sacked and the Roman emperor Hadrian prohibited Sabbath worship throughout the Roman Empire. Hadrian also prohibited anyone of Jewish descent from living in Jerusalem. A new Christian community was recruited for Jerusalem from other nations, and the bishops of Jerusalem until the mid-third century bore Greek and Roman names. Thus, after 135, even the Jerusalem Church worshiped on Sundays. Hadrian’s prohibition against Sabbath worship spelled the end of the Sabbath-or-Sunday problem for the early Church. Another council was not necessary.
Justin Martyr confirmed the non-issue of Sunday worship in 150, writing: “On Sunday, we meet to celebrate the Lord’s supper and read the Gospels and Sacred Scripture, the first day on which God changed darkness, and made the world, and on which Christ rose from the dead.” It is worth pointing out that the unity of intent in the writings of the apostolic fathers speaks to the worldwide acceptance of Sunday worship between 100-150.
In the year 321 the emperor Constantine made a new edict known as the Sunday decree: “All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable Day of the Sun. Country people, however, may freely attend to the cultivation of the fields, because it frequently happens that no other days are better adapted for planting the grain in the furrows or the vines in trenches. So that the advantage given by heavenly providence may not for the occasion of a short time perish.”
At the time this law was instituted Sunday worship had been universally practiced in the Church for at least 170 years. The significance of the law, however, was that in sanctioning Sunday as a day of rest the emperor implicitly recognized Christianity as the state religion. (Constantine refers to Sunday as the “Day of the Sun” according to the Roman tradition.)
In her book Cosmic Conflict, published in 1844, Seventh-Day Adventist prophetess Ellen White argues that the early Christian Church became apostate at the time of the decree of Constantine (p. 551-554). This opinion is refuted by current scholarship even from Seventh-Day Adventists. S. Bacchiocchi, a leading sabbatarian SDA scholar, writes in From Sabbath to Sunday (1997) that the change in worship days began around the year 60 in Rome but was not generally accepted until after the decree of Hadrian in 135 (p. 303-321).
There is a glaring inconsistency in Mrs. White’s belief that the church apostatized in 321: She accepts specific doctrines approved by the Catholic Church after the date of alleged apostasy. Three examples will suffice to make the point: (1) the canon of the New Testament was approved in 393 at the Council of Hippo; (2) the doctrine of the Trinity was defined in 325 at the Council of Nicea; and (3) the doctrine of the true manhood true Godship of Jesus was defined in 451 at the Council of Chalcedon.
I give John McArthur credit for making me love my Cathilic faith better.
@@tony1685 tony get a job son
Oh, I'm sure he's ran into knowledgeable Catholics. He probably just edits those conversations out.
@Phil Andrew you’re doing a great job brother! If this guy doesn’t listen to you he has to be just an idiot… your explanations are great and he will have to answer for not listening to the truth in the end.
As someone who would currently consider themselves "evangelical" i'd like to say that not all of us are like this. I was brought up catholic before I eventually got into occultism which by the grace of God I was delivered from and lead back to Christ. When I came back to faith in Christ I would have shared a lot of the same opinions as Ray. However as time has gone by I have sought to understand more about the Catholic faith and with it I gained a new found respect for the denomination I grew up in. Honestly I'm not really sure where I stand on Catholic theology, but I'm not going to dismiss the Catholic faith and deny calling Catholics my brothers and sisters in Christ just because we have some differing views. At the end of the day we're still one body in Christ and honestly I don't think the differences are as big a problem as many from a reformed tradition of faith would like to make them out to be. For me as long as it's not a blatantly heretical issue and you can give a solid defence for your theology backed up by scripture then we're good. I just wish that those with a reformed faith would actually take the time to look into why Catholics believe what they believe before refuting the claims with a lack of thoughtfulness and understanding. Who knows maybe I'll end up going back to the Catholic Church but regardless I have a lot of respect for it.
On a final note, I really enjoyed this video and found it interesting to hear a Catholic view on some of Ray's theology not just on his claims about catholicism but also how he witnesses to people. Thumbs up!
Your mind is stuck in a rut slinging mud. No one can help you wash the mud out because you don't stand for Jesus but fell for a lie of Satan's place is fun. Pope had fun with kids much younger than you. Dirty fun. Your bragging makes me sick as the kids suffered as you party.
For beginner apologists, if you can rebut Comfort's video you pass the test. I'd say that's fair.
It's an entrance exam, but no more. Ray Is too simplistic
It's so funny to see Catholics twisting themselves like a pretzel to twist Bible Scriptures to fit their man-made narrative to come up with so ridiculous statements that even the answers they come up with contradict itself to prove that Mary only had one son where the Bible clearly says that she had fours sons and daughters with Joseph after Jesus Christ was born. The Bible says sons and daughters here the Catholics twist that word to say cousins what a lie from the pit of hell.
Please show me where it says in the Bible that Joseph was married before he married Mary and those were his children from his first wife. You will not find it anywhere in the Bible and why do Catholics like to make false stories and lies all the time? Get real will you and stop lying. Liars will have their part in the lake of fire. You are playing with fire and you might end up in it if you keep lying.
Mary and Joseph were very young she was about in her teen years and Joseph was just about the same. Two young Jewish couples that both came in the same lineage as King David.
I just might start telling my RCIA class this very thing, LOL
Trent Horn is no beginner apologist
@@thunderousooner527 which is why he debunked him with ease lol
As a former Protestant, I apologize for this silliness.
Welcome home! You're forgiven! 😄
Not your fault, darlin'. I was once a protestant myself.
@@amyakins1284 "darlin" ? 😂
Why feel the need to apologize? 😂
No need to apologise;)
Isn’t it strange that Ray so rarely ever has these conversations with pastors or priests…..
It's so funny to see Catholics twisting themselves like a pretzel to twist Bible Scriptures to fit their man-made narrative to come up with so ridiculous statements that even the answers they come up with contradict itself to prove that Mary only had one son where the Bible clearly says that she had fours sons and daughters with Joseph after Jesus Christ was born. The Bible says sons and daughters here the Catholics twist that word to say cousins what a lie from the pit of hell.
Please show me where it says in the Bible that Joseph was married before he married Mary and those were his children from his first wife. You will not find it anywhere in the Bible and why do Catholics like to make false stories and lies all the time? Get real will you and stop lying. Liars will have their part in the lake of fire. You are playing with fire and you might end up in it if you keep lying.
Mary and Joseph were very young she was about in her teen years and Joseph was just about the same. Two young Jewish couples that both came in the same lineage as King David.
It's not strange, because I thought he wanted to talk to those who don't believe? 🤷🏽♀️
Because he knows that they would blow his arguments apart. I would be like watching Michael Knowls or Ben Shaprio debate with a brainwashed socialistic collage student. No facts all feelings.
No ..? Since when are we required to go out of our way to go after religious teacher .. jesus himself rarely did that and he has full authority to .. instead he comes to us the sinners
Luke 5:32
I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Or even people like Trent Horn. People who can actually provide answers to his dishonest questions. He acts as though because these folks on the street can't give an answer, then there *is* no answer.
Ray Comfort is very silly: From the screaming at people at the beach, to the banana is an atheist's nightmare, to the intellectual dishonesty, the only people he reaches are those as goofy as he is, like Kirk Cameron. I'm sorry if that is uncharitable, but Ray is disturbingly anti-Catholic.
I agree he's dishonest and not great with some bad arguments but pretty sure the banana was a recurring joke sketch he did, not a serious argument. Also idk if we should call people he reaches goofy, he does share the gospel and people can be saved hearing it, that wouldn't be goofy.
@@IM-tl7qv The problem is that the "Gospel" he shares is malformed. People may be saved, but it will be in spite of his interpretation of scripture, not because of it.
@@Renkinjutsushi I agree totally, when I said the gospel I meant THE gospel, what I meant was he can share basic parts of the actual gospel that can result in people getting saved. But yes, people being saved would be in spite of his theological position. People of course can be saved in imperfect communion when they are Protestant so it's still doing some good and those people can't be called goofy for doing that.
@@IM-tl7qv By that logic, we should be thankful for Bart Ehrman since he might potentially be saving souls when he quotes the New Testament in his popular books that intend to discredit it. Both of them are extreme sources of scandal. They're obviously sowing far more doubt and disrepute than they are sowing seeds of faith.
@@ToxicallyMasculinelol No, that's not following the same logic. That would be purely incidental and the opposite of what the author intended, whereas Ray is sharing a distorted gospel message but Ray's message is still orientated and will likely result in salvation as the vast majority of protestants do get baptised and many will be saved. This isn't comparable to Bart Ehrman, who doesn't intend anyone or share a message for anyone to become Christian. Anyways, this is besides the point, I never even said we should be thankful for Ray Comfort, he does do damage. I just said we shouldn't call people who accept his arguments and seek salvation "goofy" or suggest they gave to be silly or goofy to accept it because many parts and the main basic message is to seek Christ to be saved.
These desperate, cheap attacks by Ray are more for his own conscience, to quell the voice in his head that draws to Catholicism but which his pride and ego seek to silence.
Ray comfort is so condescending it’s annoying
This is true
One interesting argument for the claim that Mary had no other children is the fact, attested in scripture, that Mary went and lived the rest of her life in the house of John, an unrelated male. If she had other children, she would have lived with them, and her children would have physically prevented her from going to live with John.
His brothers ridiculed him. So no way..he was the 1st born n d apostle was jesus friends. Just as it happens with best friends currently.
What does living with John have to do with Marys children?
Jesus’ brothers rejected Him until after His resurrection.
@@AMKmusic96 all the more reason they would have prevented their mother from living with an unrelated man. By force, if necessary.
Here is how to put this thing to bed, once and for all. Show this to your sola scriptura Protestant friends - they'll either have to admit there is a contradiction in the Bible, or that they are wrong.
There are two apostles named James (Luke 6:14-16, Matt 4:21, Mark 10:35). The first James is the brother of John, one of the sons of Zebedee. The second James is the son of Alpheus. Neither is Jesus' brother by blood.
In Galatians 1:19 we read "But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord's brother".
Are Protestants going to argue that either:
1) St. Paul was wrong
2) There was a third apostle named James
3) The Bible is corrupted and has contradictions
or
4) The word brother (adelphoi) in Greek is clearly used for non-blood related relatives in the Bible, and they are mistaken?
On top of that, we see adelphoi this used this way in other places in Scripture:
Lot & Abraham are described as brothers despite being nephew & uncle (Genesis 14:14).
In John 19:25 we read "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas (Joseph's brother), and Mary Magdeline".
The Theotokos & Mary the wife of Clopas are clearly not familial sisters.
There are more, but I don't have them at hand.
Read the account of the crucifixion. Mary's sister was at the cross with Mary. Her sister is the mother of James and John, the sons of Zebedee. Thus, John was a cousin to Jesus and definitely family. Also, Jesus, as the first born has the authority to give the care of His mother to who He deems. This is part of the redeemer authority from the Jewish law.
With regards to the “false teachings” or practices of the Catholic Church; I took a page from St Robert Bellarmine and turn it back to the person
So I’ll ask: “okay, we’re not supposed to call priests father. When did this practice start in church history, who started it, and which Christian’s at the time called it out as being an error? Because I want to read what they wrote and the arguments for why they did.”
And when you do this, it becomes very clear that the objection isn’t that well researched.
In Matthew 23:1-12, Jesus is denouncing the Jewish scribes and Pharisees for rejecting Him as their Messiah, in particular for their hypocrisy in elevating themselves above others with titles such as “teacher” and “master.” The Jewish teachers affected those titles because they supposed that a teacher formed the man or gave him real life. They sought, therefore, to be called “father,” as if they were the source of truth rather than God. Christ taught that the source of all life and truth is God, and no one ought to seek or receive a title that properly belongs to Him.
The use of “Father” as the normal title for ALL priests, is a very recent practice. It originated in Ireland and spread to the United States with the Irish immigrations of the 1840’s. When Cardinal Manning was archbishop of Westminster (1865-1892) he worked hard to establish this custom as the universal practice in England as well. It's in his book the Eternal Priesthood.
I love St Robert Bellarmine, is it in his controversies ?
St Robert Bellarmine was born in *Italy* on *October 4 October 1542* and died on *September 17 1621*
It's so funny to see Catholics twisting themselves like a pretzel to twist Bible Scriptures to fit their man-made narrative to come up with so ridiculous statements that even the answers they come up with contradict itself to prove that Mary only had one son where the Bible clearly says that she had fours sons and daughters with Joseph after Jesus Christ was born. The Bible says sons and daughters here the Catholics twist that word to say cousins what a lie from the pit of hell.
Please show me where it says in the Bible that Joseph was married before he married Mary and those were his children from his first wife. You will not find it anywhere in the Bible and why do Catholics like to make false stories and lies all the time? Get real will you and stop lying. Liars will have their part in the lake of fire. You are playing with fire and you might end up in it if you keep lying.
Mary and Joseph were very young she was about in her teen years and Joseph was just about the same. Two young Jewish couples that both came in the same lineage as King David.
@@lonelyberg1808
It’s in his book “on councils & the marks of the church” which are part of The Controversies
@@zacharynelson5731 oh ok thanks
Ray Uncomfortable
🤣🤣nice
Trent, you are on a very good path imo replying to the most relevant videos that are produced by protestants against the Church. Great!
Yes Paul call himself people's father. But more broadly many protestants seem to play this game where the apostles can violate their traditions but also then they can't. Like how they act like the apostles were Sola scriptura because they supposedly always referred to the scripture, but when they clearly don't do that, that's OK because they were the apostles
Also, never point out the fact that the "scripture" that Protestants refer to (the Bible) didn't exist when the NT books were written, so it's impossible for the Bible to the scriptures the Apostles are referencing.
@@Renkinjutsushi I find this tendency particularly irritating. It makes Paul's words nonsensical to the original recipients of his letters.
"Timothy, the scriptures are sufficient for all knowledge of the Gospel. But not the scriptures you have now, you need ones that won't be written for another 40 years." - Protestant Paul
These protestants arguments sounds like jack chick tracts...🤣😂, dude is a clown.
Ray Comfort is intellectually dishonest and a laughing stock. I couldn’t take him seriously as an Atheist due to his banana argument, and I can’t take him seriously now.
I agree he's dishonest and not great with some bad arguments but pretty sure that was a recurring joke sketch he did, not a serious argument.
@@gk7754 I would also like to know
I know of no argument against atheism that atheists take seriously.
@@mugsofmirth8101 I am no longer atheist, and the arguments I took seriously were Aquinas’ five ways and the Church’s claim of apostolic succession.
But Ray Comfort’s banana argument is something that caused me to mock and belittle Christians for a while due to its sheer ridiculousness.
@@AppalachianAcademics I'm not familiar with those arguments either.