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- Dieppe - One Day in August - Ian Fleming, Enigma and the Deadly Raid - Part 1
WW2TV regular David O'Keefe joins us to talk about his book.
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In less than six hours in August 1942, nearly 1,000 British, Canadian and American commandos died in the French port of Dieppe in an operation that for decades seemed to have no real purpose. Was it a dry-run for D-Day, or perhaps a gesture by the Allies to placate Stalin's impatience for a second front in the west?
Canadian historian David O'Keefe uses hitherto classified intelligence archives to prove that this catastrophic and apparently futile raid was in fact a mission, set up by Ian Fleming of British Naval Intelligence as part of a 'pinch' policy designed to capture material relating to the four-rotor Enigma Machine that would permit codebreakers like Alan Turing at Bletchley Park to turn the tide of the Second World War.
In this first show we will look at how the raid has been written about in previous books and the research David undertook and as importantly why he did it. In a future show, we will look at filming in Dieppe itself and explain the sequence of events.
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Tragedy at Dieppe - Mark Zuehlke
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My Dad was a member of the Calgary Tanks, although he arrived to the Regiment as Reinforcement AFTER the Dieppe Raid. He introduced me to many of the Veterans who were captured at Dieppe. EVERY ONE of them gave me the sense that THEY KNEW that there was something "sinister" about the raid - but that they were never told (or could ever find out) what was the REAL reason behind the raid.
I am SO glad that David found that Sinister reason. It is just disappointing that the Vets who were there never knew before they passed away..... To know that, although the raid was a failure, it was NOT just a pointless excuse to sacrifice them. And that IF the raid had succeeded, it would have made a HUGE impact on the conduct of the war.
Excellent job Paul Woodadge and David O'Keefe !
It's been years I've had the video Dieppe Uncovered by David O'Keefe and although I've watched it many times, I still can't get over it and it was one of the reasons that pushed me as a tour guide to take a much closer look at the topic and I decided to include the Dieppe Raid into my Normandy tours.
Great discussion. David O’Keefe’s book finally answered many of the uncomfortable questions that surrounded the Dieppe Raid for decades. And although the story of Dieppe is still not a positive one, the book points out the important reason for the raid.
great discussion, as always, between Paul and David... It really is a virtual pub chat between two masters of ww2 history & we get to be a fly on the pub's (proverbial) wall. loads of good info and the live chat replay adds a whole other dimension to this conversation. Thank you Paul & David. well done.
Thankyou for another excellent presentation. So much information and insight. I for one am definitely convinced about the real reason for the raid.
Mr. O'Keefes publication is yet another book that I need to buy as a result of watching your wonderful channel!
Brilliant, as I said in the show, I was convinced by the book
Superb show David and Paul! David and WW2TV have completely changed my perspective on this raid. As always, this is a masterclass from David!
I was motivated to watch this first part of the 2 Part One Day in August presentations after watching the excellent 80th Anniversary show with Alex Black and Marie Eve Vaillancourt. I must now watch Part 2. I was surprised to learn of the role of the 4 rotor Enigma change in regards to the inability of the Admiralty to be sure of what she was up to in Norway during the PQ 17 disaster, which I am reading about incidentally. I never connected the two events before and tied it into the Dieppe Raid. Fascinating. I am in awe of the superb work of David O' Keefe.
An excellent presentation by David. He changed my mind about Dieppe!
Like other people who have commented, I came back to watch this show after viewing the superb Dieppe 80th anniversary show with Alex Black and Marie Eve Vaillancourt (which is a 'must view'!!). I thought the research by David O'Keefe seems to make sense of what appeared to be an otherwise ill-conceived and almost suicidal action. I will now be buying the latest edition of his book to read his arguments and research in detail. Thanks Paul for bringing historians, researchers and shows like this to your channel!!
David is so patient, more patient than I probably would be. My father was a Yank in the Essex Scottish, a Sgt., captured at Dieppe. I'm sure my dad never understood what the raid really was about. I'd love to be able to ask him what exactly his operational orders were, what objectives were assigned to him.
August 19, 1942
A good book written to enlighten people about 😢about this senseless "Raid". My Dad as member of the South Saskatchewan Regiment (Canadian Army) was there in that thing. He survived that and 33 months in a German POW Camp (Stalag VIII B and later Stalag II D) THX BE TO GOD!
I’m here in Normandy and Dieppe this week to visit my Grandfather’s grave from 1942, He was with Queens Own Camerons….from Winnipeg. His life was lost in a short time after landing in Pourville.
A great episode. At last I've got so see what this 'snatch' raid at Dieppe is all about. Not as wacky as might appear at first glance. David O'Keefe does an excellent job presenting his case here. I'm now going to watch Part 2 in order to see how he develops his argument.
I went into David's book completely skeptical but he won me over completely
great discussion you both had and thanks for sharing it. got to see the documentary when it first aired on tv. was left speechless after it. was very proud of david for what he did and cleared the air about the raid and its purpose and the resons for it. the wild part is the connection to ian fleming. sad that main stream media has not changed the story line for the 80th annivsary
My grandfather was with the Essex Scottish from Windsor, ON Canada at Dieppe. His journal is in the war archives in Ottawa. He was shot, took shrapnel and was taken prisoner. They barely mention Dieppe in history classes here. Everything aside from the politics and Hollywood adaptations my kids have learned about our history, has been from me and teaching them our family military history. My grandfather passed in 1999, at the end all he could remember was a raid that saw too many die and too many taken to be murdered on work marches or just because the commandant of the camp didn't like them.
After watching episode 2 live yesterday which was fantastic got to watch part 1 👍🏻👍🏻
Really excellent and helpful - well done.
late to the party, but finally got around and read the book, and is was indeed mind blowing in its scope and depth of research!
I always suspected that the story was not true, even the classification of Ultra Top Secret for 70 years sound, let say off. Then in 2012 I watched CTV New with David O'Keefe and his team leading the way as he normally does, the truth was finally revealed. What impressed me the most, there were still survivors that I saw on TV when they were told the truth. As one said It was stupid but if we had been successful it would have, I will para a phrase here, glorious.
Close friend's dad commanded Bluebell.
Donald Leroy Brownlee.
He survived some brutal treatment but made it home.
I have a copy of his "secret diary" kept while in POW camp. It would make a magnificent movie.
Excellent.
Great discussion.
I liked the chat so much I bought the book, a real etc opener which explains the actual reason for Dieppe, which seemed incomprehensible. The brute force approach utterly failed, but something had to be tried or Ultra was stymied.
It's a brilliant book
War any war is always a hard to grapple with topic.
I always in school and history class I'm college had a tough time accepting Dry run for D Day....
I questioned it back in high school.
In theater there's no such thing as let's go to war but do a dry run!
I think it makes sense if you consider that the planners for this operation were people of the World War 1 generation, whose decisions could have been influenced by experiences of the prior wars. So then they why they would throw such an overwhelming force into a, basically, “snatch-and-grab” raid becomes colored by what opposition they expect that force might face. We should bear in mind that unconventional warfare was in its infancy-or more to the point, commanders and decision makers may not have been fully versed, or even comfortable with the planning and execution of a special op. Going on what they know of the German defenses at Dieppe, the obstacles the raiding force might encounter, the conditions of the port itself, and the critical need to get an Enigma machine and associated intelligence, we could expect planners to devise the largest hammer blow possible in the shortest time. The complexity of the operation with so many moving parts becomes a function of myriad influencers adding inputs.
What made me think about this (aside from David O’keefe’s laborious research) was how one typically plays the game of Risk: build up forces on a territory, then attack the adjacent enemy with superior numbers. Losses are expected, but with a preponderance of force success is more likely. People like Churchill, and the Generals and Admirals who thought this thing up were very much products of that style of warfare, and at this stage of the war they didn’t have much experience to go on.
29 minute mark... Doggo O'Keefe makes an appearance!
The only thing I know about Dieppe is what my Mother told me when i was young . My Mom is 97 now and she said all her friends that went to war particular the Dieppe raid they didnt come back > I live in Windsor On. and it was the Essex and Kent Scottish from the area that lost their lives there . Our Riverfront park is named Dieppe in downtown Windsor .
I just ordered the book on Amazon
Interesting I believe their was a documentary in regards this in which a key building possible hotel taken over by Germans had some connections to this it mentioned papers being sized by raiding forces
Yep, the hôtel was Les Arcades
Where is part 3?
Follow the links in the description
Well it was a shite beach for making sand castles, so we could probably rule that out straight away.
Disappointed i can not find part 2
Here you go - the links were in the description
Dieppe Part 2 th-cam.com/users/livekjkSis17Ljc
Dieppe Part 3 th-cam.com/users/liveKBL4kVIdIls