Just paired these with my Garmin 800, both work fine. You might have to turn the hub/crank a few times for the sensors to come "alive" and be discoverable, who knows. Then go to Bike Settings > Bike Profiles > no. > ANT + Speed/Cadence. Here you have to select "Bike Sensors: Yes" and then "Sensor Details". From there, select sensor type "Speed and Cadence" (NOT "spd/cadence"). This will make the computer auto-detect both individual Speed and Cadence sensors. Simples!
Would you recommend putting a couple of additional nylon cable ties around both the sensors? The reason I say that is because they don't look that secure with a rubber band (wear and tear could cause the bands to get worn) and also so that it's harder to steal for someone?
Thanks for this - my Garmin 1030 was working fine until I fitted the speed sensor that came with it. After fitting that, the speed reading is WAY off, like 4x the speed it should be. There doesnt seem to be any calibration or settings in the sensors setup menu on the 1030. Any suggestions? I have it on the front hub, which is an SP dynamo hub. Might that be the problem? Thanks
Hi, I was given a speed and cadence sensor as a present. I have a Garmin 310XT triathlon watch, which is listed as compatible. Any idea how to pair this to the 310xt? I've been on the forum, but to no avail.
+Junior P Thanks Musik - missed this comment previously but you are indeed correct it detects in the same way. I was using my HRM last night with my Turbo Trainer.
Thanks for the video. I had installed my cadence, HRM and speed sensors, they show that they connected to the device but I can't find the cadence nor the HR on my screen when I ride. Do you know what might be the issue ?
What model Garmin Edge do you have ? As a starter for 10 do you have your data screens configured to display cadence and HR - you have to select these data fields in the units settings if you want them to be shown ?
Hi - can you confirm that these sensors, being ANT + can be paired with none garmin devices? As long as ANT + and able to add speed sensor separately from cadence sensors these should be fine right? Thanks
CycloFeed Ubox I've had them paired with a Bryton Rider 60 but couldn't get them to work with the Mio 505. The old Garmin GSC10 combined speed/cadence sensor worked with both the Bryton and the Mio.
Thanks for that. According to the ant website these sensors work with the Mio 105 which I have and its a case of "if the unit can link individual sensors they will work" I'll feedback if I get around to the upgrade! Thanks
Hi there. I'm finding it hard to pair the cadence sensor to my garmin 500 unit. The lights blink when I rotate the crank. I go into bike settings and choose spd/cadence sensor. Enter a unique id, rescan but nothing happens. Any ideas? Thanks in advance
Mazen Naim Hi Mazen - below the rescan option there is another option called 'Sensor Details'. There should be 4 options listed at the bottom when you select this. I believe 'Spd/Cad Sensor' is for combined speed and cadence sensors such as the older Garmin GSC10 sensor. The other options are for individual 'Spd Sensor', 'Cad Sensor' and 'Spd and Cad sensor'. If you are scanning for 'Spd/Cad Sensor' I don't think it will pick up the separate cadence sensor as it's looking for a combined unit so try the other options. Out of interest where did you get the unique code for your cadence sensor from if you havn't managed to pair the device ? Hope the above is of use - let us know how you get along.
Hi, Tx for the response. I ticked the Cad sensor option and hit rescan but nothing happens when I spin the pedals apart from a couple of light flashes. As for the ID, I clicked on the ID and I entered a unique number. I changed the batteries as well but no dice yet.
Mazen Naim Try scanning without entering the ID. I'm not sure what number you're entering (i've only discovered my sensors ID numbers once they are paired - i don't recall seeing them provided as part of the literature included but i may be wrong). If you are entering an incorrect ID then the 500 may not pick up your cadence sensor as its scanning for a sensor which isn't there. If this doesn't work it's probably time to give the Garmin helpdesk a call who are normally pretty good. The 500 is listed as compatible with the new cadence sensor at www.thisisant.com/directory/bike-cadence-sensor1/ but I tried mine last week and similarly couldn't get it to pair - I put it down to perhaps running very old firmware on my 500 (it's relegated to more of a test unit now). Be sure to post back and let us know if you get it sorted.
To get the new individual cadence and speed sensors to work after my GSC-10 died I had to choose Menu > Settings > Bike Settings > (your bike) > ANT + Spd/Cad > "Sensor Details" (at the bottom) and then uncheck the "Spd/Cad Sensor" option (which is what my GSC-10 used) by selecting one of the other three options -- ultimately you want the fourth option "Speed and Cadence" sensor option at the bottom. When I choose the fourth option at first it only detected the new cadence sensor and so I checked "Cadence only", spun the crank until it beeped and then checked "Speed only" and spun the wheel until it beeped and detected the new speed sensor and then after that I was able to select the fourth option "Speed and Cadence" and after spinning the crank and wheel I heard two beeps and all is good. Hope that helps.
Some newer sensors that work for both speed and cadence will switch modes when removing/replacing the battery. When replacing the battery, a green light will flash (for speed) and when removing and replacing the battery, a red light will flash (cadence mode)
Please, I would like to know if this Garmin Speed/Cadence works with Garmin 800. In my case, it is working with cadence, but I do not understand why is not working with speed.
Annabelle Guittard See Malcolms comments - I would have advised the same - make sure you are pairing them separately as individual sensors and not selecting the combined spd/cadence option.
Yes, some lag is normal. The display unit will average demonstrated values. This allows you to read the display. Otherwise it would change too quickly for you to get a sense of the value...
I don't have a 705 so can't try it myself, Older units like the 500 needed you to pair the sensors separately - on the 500 there was an option for 'speed /cadence' (if i recall correctly) - this should not be used as it would mean that the head unit is looking for a combined speed and cadence sensor (like gamins older gsc10) rather than individual sensors. Having just checked out Garmins website (see link) the 705 does not appear to be listed as a compatible device with these sensors - whether this means they won't work I don't know ? buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/shop-by-accesories/fitness-sensors/bike-speed-sensor-and-cadence-sensor/prod146897.html DC Rainmaker is also a great source of info - scroll down this article to see the compatibility info www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/05/garmins-spd-cad-magnetless-sensors.html Reading it he describe the issue with selecting sensor search options a little better than me but the principle is correct that on some of the edge units there is an option to search for a combined speed/cadence sensor and if you select that option then it won't find the separate sensors. DC's article also appears to suggest separate sensors may not be compatible with the 705 - most likely due to age as Garmin produced a combined sensor back in the day rather than separates. Probably worth contacting Garmins Helpdesk if you are still struggling. Hope you get it working
The installation location of the Cadence sensor is indicated very conditionally. There is no clear understanding of where this place is: in the middle of the crankset, or shifted to some area.
VELOGPS - THE INNER TUBE thanks, would the cadence sensor also be more suitable to just indoor use?. Im new to these devices. i dont plan to train indoors but i have just acquired a Garmin Edge. Thanks.
The cadence sensor is relevant to both indoor and outdoor use. It basically measures crank revolutions and coupled with a compatible Garmin Edge will allow you to monitor this. Most of us have a set cadence at which we cycle most comfortably - I'm more of a spinner than a grinder !! It really depends how serious you are about your training and monitoring data whether you want to use one - personally its one sensor i don't bother with. Also check whether its compatible with your Garmin Edge if you are thinking of getting one as it may not work with some of the more basic or older devices (e.g. basic edge touring and edge 20).
Speed data with a sensor is far more accurate than with GPS, especially in areas where GPS reception is less than perfect. Without the sensor, you may see wild fluctuations in the recorded speed. If you don't really mind about accuracy of data recording, the sensor is not essential and in most circumstances GPS speed will be sufficient.
I've heard that these sensors can give false data as they use internal accelerometers (there's a mouthful for ya!) hence no magnets. HAs anybody had any problems with theirs? I wanted to buy a new GSC10 but the price for these is phenomenal now. Ridiculous. Great channel BTW +VELOGPS - THE INNER TUBE
I guess at first it defaults to some standard wheel size. But as soon as you take it for a spin outside, the Edge unit will compute the wheel size from GPS distance and number of revolutions.
Just paired these with my Garmin 800, both work fine. You might have to turn the hub/crank a few times for the sensors to come "alive" and be discoverable, who knows. Then go to Bike Settings > Bike Profiles > no. > ANT + Speed/Cadence. Here you have to select "Bike Sensors: Yes" and then "Sensor Details". From there, select sensor type "Speed and Cadence" (NOT "spd/cadence"). This will make the computer auto-detect both individual Speed and Cadence sensors. Simples!
Malcolm Lewis thanks
ThankYouThankYouThankYou!
Will the cadence sensor give the total number of pedal turns during a ride? Great vid!
is it possible to fit the speedsensor to the front hub?
I have mine on the front hub but I'm curious to know... if it makes a difference.
I think it does make a difference
Thank you. This helped me connect these sensors to my Garmin Vivofit watch. Really appreciate it.
ukulele8741 what does that do?
Would you recommend putting a couple of additional nylon cable ties around both the sensors? The reason I say that is because they don't look that secure with a rubber band (wear and tear could cause the bands to get worn) and also so that it's harder to steal for someone?
Overkill
Thanks for this - my Garmin 1030 was working fine until I fitted the speed sensor that came with it. After fitting that, the speed reading is WAY off, like 4x the speed it should be. There doesnt seem to be any calibration or settings in the sensors setup menu on the 1030. Any suggestions?
I have it on the front hub, which is an SP dynamo hub. Might that be the problem?
Thanks
does it matter what size wheel for the speed sensor (ie: 20" vs 700)..
Can this sensor be paired with a Garmin Forerunner 610?
Hi,
I was given a speed and cadence sensor as a present. I have a Garmin 310XT triathlon watch, which is listed as compatible. Any idea how to pair this to the 310xt? I've been on the forum, but to no avail.
Thanks does this support BT LE Smart?
how much does each individual sensor weigh?
Hi Mr Velo ,
Does the heart rate monitor detect in the same way as the speed & cadence sensors ...???
Thanks
Not Mr Velo, but the answer is yes.
+Junior P Thanks Musik - missed this comment previously but you are indeed correct it detects in the same way. I was using my HRM last night with my Turbo Trainer.
does this work with the old 510? i only have speed/cadence to add. or do i have to update firmware?
Thanks for the video. I had installed my cadence, HRM and speed sensors, they show that they connected to the device but I can't find the cadence nor the HR on my screen when I ride. Do you know what might be the issue ?
What model Garmin Edge do you have ? As a starter for 10 do you have your data screens configured to display cadence and HR - you have to select these data fields in the units settings if you want them to be shown ?
Hi - can you confirm that these sensors, being ANT + can be paired with none garmin devices? As long as ANT + and able to add speed sensor separately from cadence sensors these should be fine right? Thanks
CycloFeed Ubox I've had them paired with a Bryton Rider 60 but couldn't get them to work with the Mio 505. The old Garmin GSC10 combined speed/cadence sensor worked with both the Bryton and the Mio.
Thanks for that. According to the ant website these sensors work with the Mio 105 which I have and its a case of "if the unit can link individual sensors they will work" I'll feedback if I get around to the upgrade! Thanks
VELOGPS - THE INNER TUBE
Did you get the speed sensor working ok with your Rider 60?
Hi there. I'm finding it hard to pair the cadence sensor to my garmin 500 unit. The lights blink when I rotate the crank. I go into bike settings and choose spd/cadence sensor. Enter a unique id, rescan but nothing happens. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance
Mazen Naim Hi Mazen - below the rescan option there is another option called 'Sensor Details'. There should be 4 options listed at the bottom when you select this. I believe 'Spd/Cad Sensor' is for combined speed and cadence sensors such as the older Garmin GSC10 sensor. The other options are for individual 'Spd Sensor', 'Cad Sensor' and 'Spd and Cad sensor'. If you are scanning for 'Spd/Cad Sensor' I don't think it will pick up the separate cadence sensor as it's looking for a combined unit so try the other options. Out of interest where did you get the unique code for your cadence sensor from if you havn't managed to pair the device ? Hope the above is of use - let us know how you get along.
Hi, Tx for the response.
I ticked the Cad sensor option and hit rescan but nothing happens when I spin the pedals apart from a couple of light flashes. As for the ID, I clicked on the ID and I entered a unique number. I changed the batteries as well but no dice yet.
Mazen Naim Try scanning without entering the ID. I'm not sure what number you're entering (i've only discovered my sensors ID numbers once they are paired - i don't recall seeing them provided as part of the literature included but i may be wrong). If you are entering an incorrect ID then the 500 may not pick up your cadence sensor as its scanning for a sensor which isn't there. If this doesn't work it's probably time to give the Garmin helpdesk a call who are normally pretty good. The 500 is listed as compatible with the new cadence sensor at www.thisisant.com/directory/bike-cadence-sensor1/ but I tried mine last week and similarly couldn't get it to pair - I put it down to perhaps running very old firmware on my 500 (it's relegated to more of a test unit now). Be sure to post back and let us know if you get it sorted.
To get the new individual cadence and speed sensors to work after my GSC-10 died I had to choose Menu > Settings > Bike Settings > (your bike) > ANT + Spd/Cad > "Sensor Details" (at the bottom) and then uncheck the "Spd/Cad Sensor" option (which is what my GSC-10 used) by selecting one of the other three options -- ultimately you want the fourth option "Speed and Cadence" sensor option at the bottom. When I choose the fourth option at first it only detected the new cadence sensor and so I checked "Cadence only", spun the crank until it beeped and then checked "Speed only" and spun the wheel until it beeped and detected the new speed sensor and then after that I was able to select the fourth option "Speed and Cadence" and after spinning the crank and wheel I heard two beeps and all is good. Hope that helps.
Some newer sensors that work for both speed and cadence will switch modes when removing/replacing the battery. When replacing the battery, a green light will flash (for speed) and when removing and replacing the battery, a red light will flash (cadence mode)
will these sensors measure distance on a indoor trainer?
Yes if they are paired with an appropriate head unit and the wheel circumference entered
Are they water proof? Im a cross country rider and its always raining in our place
I've had the speed sensor on my MTB for years with no problems.
Please, I would like to know if this Garmin Speed/Cadence works with Garmin 800. In my case, it is working with cadence, but I do not understand why is not working with speed.
Annabelle Guittard See Malcolms comments - I would have advised the same - make sure you are pairing them separately as individual sensors and not selecting the combined spd/cadence option.
Brilliant, cheers mate ... I just bought the 520, very helpful!
Do u have to fur the speed sensor or can u just use the GPS
GPS is fine unless you want to use it on an indoor trainer in which case you may need a speed sensor if it isn't a smart trainer.
VELOGPS - Thx
I just like the look of no sensor. Nice and clean.
Thx 👍👍
Hi, does this work with the Edge 500?
Yes, it should because all the unit is looking for is an Ant+ device.
+Carlos Augusto Sànchez Castañeda Having problems pairing Cadence Sensor with Edge 500.
Can the speed sensor be fixed onto a spinning bike?
Not a good idea, I tried that and i broke all my fingers on the spokes. Definitley worth stopping the bike first.
Is lag normal on sensors like this? I noticed that the data is lagging compared to the physical action
Yes, some lag is normal. The display unit will average demonstrated values. This allows you to read the display. Otherwise it would change too quickly for you to get a sense of the value...
please could u show how to get the battery out of cadence sensor to replace :-)
I'm having hard time pairing with edge 705 ANT+ and u followed all the steps required, pls help
I don't have a 705 so can't try it myself, Older units like the 500 needed you to pair the sensors separately - on the 500 there was an option for 'speed /cadence' (if i recall correctly) - this should not be used as it would mean that the head unit is looking for a combined speed and cadence sensor (like gamins older gsc10) rather than individual sensors.
Having just checked out Garmins website (see link) the 705 does not appear to be listed as a compatible device with these sensors - whether this means they won't work I don't know ?
buy.garmin.com/en-GB/GB/shop-by-accesories/fitness-sensors/bike-speed-sensor-and-cadence-sensor/prod146897.html
DC Rainmaker is also a great source of info - scroll down this article to see the compatibility info
www.dcrainmaker.com/2014/05/garmins-spd-cad-magnetless-sensors.html
Reading it he describe the issue with selecting sensor search options a little better than me but the principle is correct that on some of the edge units there is an option to search for a combined speed/cadence sensor and if you select that option then it won't find the separate sensors. DC's article also appears to suggest separate sensors may not be compatible with the 705 - most likely due to age as Garmin produced a combined sensor back in the day rather than separates.
Probably worth contacting Garmins Helpdesk if you are still struggling.
Hope you get it working
+VELOGPS - THE INNER TUBE thanks bud. It really helped
The installation location of the Cadence sensor is indicated very conditionally. There is no clear understanding of where this place is: in the middle of the crankset, or shifted to some area.
Does it record km?
That's the gps his job
my gamin 810 screen does not have a sensors screen?
Ant+ sport
given that the computer gives speed by gps, why is there a need for a speed sensor?
So you can use your Garmin to monitor / log performance data whilst using an indoor static trainer.
VELOGPS - THE INNER TUBE
thanks, would the cadence sensor also be more suitable to just indoor use?. Im new to these devices. i dont plan to train indoors but i have just acquired a Garmin Edge. Thanks.
The cadence sensor is relevant to both indoor and outdoor use. It basically measures crank revolutions and coupled with a compatible Garmin Edge will allow you to monitor this. Most of us have a set cadence at which we cycle most comfortably - I'm more of a spinner than a grinder !! It really depends how serious you are about your training and monitoring data whether you want to use one - personally its one sensor i don't bother with. Also check whether its compatible with your Garmin Edge if you are thinking of getting one as it may not work with some of the more basic or older devices (e.g. basic edge touring and edge 20).
Speed data with a sensor is far more accurate than with GPS, especially in areas where GPS reception is less than perfect. Without the sensor, you may see wild fluctuations in the recorded speed. If you don't really mind about accuracy of data recording, the sensor is not essential and in most circumstances GPS speed will be sufficient.
thanks for this bud!
I've heard that these sensors can give false data as they use internal accelerometers (there's a mouthful for ya!) hence no magnets. HAs anybody had any problems with theirs? I wanted to buy a new GSC10 but the price for these is phenomenal now. Ridiculous.
Great channel BTW +VELOGPS - THE INNER TUBE
I don't understand how does this speed sensor work if you don't input the wheel size on the computer....
I guess at first it defaults to some standard wheel size. But as soon as you take it for a spin outside, the Edge unit will compute the wheel size from GPS distance and number of revolutions.
I think i may have to buy these now :-)
very helpful.. thanks
+livibam for some reason my cadence sensor doesn't flash when i rotate the crank. any ideas?
Maybe it isn't reading properly. Is a value being displayed?
sounds like the linkin park song cold "burn it down" at the end of the video
Its Hot Heat by Topher Mohr and Alex Elena from the TH-cam Audio Library
thanks !!!
"Its dependent on how big your crank is"
ha.
Keep far from these sensors if you have a Bryton Rider 20 GPS unit. It doesn't work well with the speed sensor...
Anybody tried this with a trike yet?
Useless the speed-sensor, the gps will mesure your speed from riding, so......the cadence sensor is+ heart rate belt
Does the speed sensor calculate the distance overriding the gps?
I have a macro gps by lezyne... it can be compatible with garmin sensors? Both speed and cadence?
Is it possible to pair the cadance & speed sensor with Garmin 3 HR?
Jeffrey Loh yes.