Ice GOES OFF on André 3000 For Not Having Solo Album | "Stand Away From Big Boi"
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I’m more mad at how Big Boi has more overall output as a rapper than Andre yet gets regularly left out these lists or is so far away from Andre’s rankings
Add in the fact that critics and audience both like his albums. Big boi def has a lot of hits without andree
@@t-god2439right? Most of his solo albums are critically acclaimed yet he will sometimes not even be in a top 50 list.. 50!
Same, I've had plenty of conversations with people about this.
@@telldetruth9259pretty Ken from b high atl put it the best way I’ve ever heard it. Andre is the talent but big boi is the star.
Because he's not as good as Andre, Andre has the quotables, the "aura", and his style is super unique. It is what it is
He can do whatever he want to do.
And we can say whatever we want to say.
Yes, he’s his living his own life. He’s not a product
@@jessicaiga7159 I like how everyone acts as if we're wrong for wanting him to do what he does best and give us good music. None of you who think like you are being honest
@@TA-ht4joHe’s got Five classic Albums you can listen to today and one of them still holds the record for most selling Physical Copies at 18 mil plus! So …..
As long as his fans don't put him in the GOAT category
Love Below is Andre solo album. They both said it when they made Speaker Box/Love Below
Thank you! Iykyk
It is. We just want more. And have to live with the fact that as dope as he is, he doesn't want to give it.
Solo project but not a rap album
It’s not!! Haha never released two verse song on his own
That was an Outkast album. It was marketed as an Outkast album & sold as an Outkast album. A side b side. Andre never sold an album without Big Boi attached to it.
Just went back and listened to THE LOVE BELOW for first time in decade. Shit is a masterpiece. Aged flawlessly.
That shit harder than the majority of shit out right now!!!
Same. Gave me TPAB vibes. Way ahead of its time
Andre 3k owes us nothing.
That’s deeper than we can understand
Ehhh maybe an album.... especially if he's ranked as high as he is.... I feel ICE on that
Cap
Facts
I think he was afraid it wouldn't live up to the 3000 hype. Verses and songs are totally different
The Love Below is Andre's vision!
TFBOAW!!
That was 20 years ago
@NINJA_INVESTORS and? He was 28!
@@Brodieiamnot Yes. He is irrelevant now. Nobody id listening to music from 20 years ago
@@NINJA_INVESTORSare you well?
He rapped at such a high level in his prime & never threw a verse away. You can listen to verse today and still give a stank face. I get it. Salute to 3,000
Not really
But he still hasn’t given us a solo album.
Ice trippen ….. “Love Below” was most def a Andre Solo album … from the sound to flow
Nas Common mos def and Talib were writing 3 verses
Andre was writing 1 verse 70% of the time.
Not that @Walk it Out” verse 🤣🤣. Andre is cool and all but I do think he’s overrated 🤷🏿♂️. I’m sorry he just is in my opinion
Ever since Aquemini Andre has been his own person rapping. Aquemini marked a HUGE difference in what the two of them were rapping about, IMHO. Ice is out of his mind thinking Andre hasn't given us whole albums already. Andre and Big Boi are GOAT'd together as Outkast and on their own.
Andre 3K does not have to give you s@#!
Exactly
Yea but say his name right… hate when people call him 3k to try to sound cool…
At All!
@@joaquinl929bruh if you don’t take a shower and go outside
@@joaquinl929everyone calls him 3k
Big Boi is under rated
Please give him his flowers❤
SEVERELY 💯 💯 💯
He wrote almost all their biggest hooks too 😭
Ice ended up arguing against his own point lol
LL was talking that real shit in the Shop. Don’t age yourself and generalize all of us
Nothing LL can say or has said musically since early 2000s is relevant. These cats gotta let it goooo, we not trying to listen to 50 year old rappers.
Who's we bigga?
Nobody listening to ll
@@shynebayarea510 wild im a 90s baby and those songs go with a girl in her late 20s and up, we be doin it and doin it well
@@willellis502the only flaw with this is limiting others. We the only genre that places age cap on the culture.
It’s better for you to say “it’s just not for me” I don’t think LL, Redman, or Rakim are making music for younger demographic specifically, they know that people don’t want hear it. Hell there kids or grand kids probably feels like you. We get it.
There is dam near an audience for everyone. There space for Nas, B Daddy Kane, J Cole, Lil Pump, Ice Spice, Tyler The Creator, Lil Baby etc etc. they from all different eras. They can all exist in the same time.
Whether the music is good or not is subjective.
Lowkey if Joe dropped right now, or even did something like a Freestyle over the Not Like Us beat. It would probably be some of his most successful work. Idk if he ever been this relevant in hip hop, even durin Pump It Up lol
Mood Musik era Joe was a beast aka When he was in Slaughterhouse. I know Joe for that time , Pump it up era I was 10 😂.
Uh he definitely wasn’t as relevant then as now. i’ve seen your videos, with that face I KNOW you old enough to know 😂😂😂
@@fadethechannel Yeah, but Joe has distanced himself from his music career since the last format. He is probably right.
Joe definitely was nice with the pen. Even the 1st album where folks only talk about pump it up. He had mad songs on there. Survivor, calm down, pusha man, stund up nugga, 10 minutes he was spittin on there. Him and Emmany gotta hella slaps together
@JamesKlass79 Exactly and the label knew and he was a Legit "threat" to Jay in his prime and they wasn't about to let that happen. And I'm a big Jay fan but truth is truth and that's all I rock wit!
Andre and Big Boi is a group and one of the best in the south period. Im not going away from a man that ive built this legendary group with.
If Andre had a full album like the verse he did on that Kanye West record I’d hold it at the highest esteem ever.
I’m sure Andre is losing sleep over your opinion of him
Best verse of the last 5 years i would love to hear where an older hip hop head ranks it all time.
@@newwave258 go listen to Andre Verse on Killer Mike album
If my sister had a d i c k she would be my brother 🗣️🗣️🗣️😂
Andre has the highest IF factor in hip hop history
Ice’s last point proves he just likes to hear himself talk because he ultimately said NOTHING. I love how there’s east coasters who want 3000 to rap again that I’m sure at one point thought he was a “country bumpkin”. A “bamma”. That southern brotha looked at this culture east coasters hood so high and said nah I’m on something else now. I truly love his stance on how people feel about how he should get back in the booth. I hope he makes a tuba and wind chime album next just to make people mad.
You crazy NYC cosigned Andre as a dope lyricist. I never heard him not get love yall be playing victim for no reason 😂
Let 3k be 3k. Dude ain’t harming anyone.
We’re saying that he hasn’t given us a solo album. What’s wrong with that?
@@TA-ht4jo because this conversation gets brought up yearly & it hasn’t changed and probably will never change at some point these things can be put to bed.
@@branohiwerei290it cant because it will always be an asterisk when we speak on his ranking
Soft ass
@brownman7287 yes the all important rankings....
Dawg talking bout 3000 needing to get away from big boi is completely insane. 3stacks can do whatever tf he wants. This take is ridiculous
Facts
Yeah this is the dumbest shit to converse about.
3 stacks is an underrated actor too. Man finished the first alley-oop.
If LL speaks we all listen. If anybody he has the jurisdiction and the ranking to validate and back up his statement
Ice was cap in this segment.
"The Love Below" is an Andre 3000 solo album. The plan initially was for him and Big Boi to drop solo albums which they both recorded separately and as Joe said, the label stepped in and marketed it as an "OutKast" album.
The Love Below is an masterpiece BTW
A masterpiece, but not a solo rap album
That's not Correct. DJ Greg Street Suggested they do the album this way it had zero to do with a label. I know cuz I was there when Street Said it to them. Ya'll just be coming up with stories to tell 😂😂😂
@@niecysboy LA Reid the one that came out publicly and said that. Cant blame fans for thinking that. Lol
Why do people keep bringing up the love below lol - andre 3k is a rapper, and that is not a rap album. He was trying to be edgey and experimental.. to me it felt like an album that was made because he had nothing left to rap about
@@biller97 bc it's his solo album. Your opinion on it isn't the gospel
The Love Below is a solo album. 21 tracks. One Big Boi feature, I think. Pushed the genre forward. Nothing to prove to anyone
It’s like people are scared ti criticize Andre lol. Any other rapper at his level with a lack of solo is getting criticized. People do it to Lauryn Hill regularly and she actually had a solo project that featured rapping
Good point
It's not about criticism it's about that dude don't know what he talking about and andre has done a lot solo work
@@joshuaroach4045no he hasn’t. Guest verses aren’t solo projects
@@joshuaroach4045no he doesn’t. Having guest features every 2 years isn’t solo work
@@PeterStone-hy6irfacts
Bro, Andre don’t owe you, me or anybody else anything musically. If he gives us bars it’ll be a blessing and I’d be so grateful.
5:13 Its a wind instrument album. And i listen to that album still. ❤
Ice ain’t hiding his hate that well. His argument is weak and pointless. Three stacks don’t owe you shit Ice…Not a damn thing.
The way he backtracked the point by the end of this vid ....Ice can't pod
I’m so sick of people demanding of other people to make them happy 3000 don’t care how you feel
I have a friend who is an amazing artist . Got scholarships to go to the Art institute and everything. He just stopped . I couldn’t understand so I asked bro why . He said it wasn’t in him anymore. To this day that man has never drawn anything. People have their reasons . You gotta respect it .
he probably has albums he hasn't released
Big Boi & Andre put Southern Rap on the map. We don’t need shit else from them! Anything else is just a blessing we should be grateful for.
yup!!!
Helped put it on the map
I fux wit ya bruh thats real shit
@@cedricwalker678 I agree * helped. There were many others. But they kicked the door down for everyone to run in behind them!
No one wants that Flute album. Keep that shit over there!,
Andre 3K did the music to the underrated cartoon Class of 3000 (his own program, btw). That man has a body of non-outkast work.
I just said the same thing and that was my cartoon back on cartoon Network I just hated that I think he got canceled after like the second season
3 Stacks doesn't owe the culture anything. His contributions are indelible. This entitled take from a fans perspective is self serving. Accept his reasons for not putting out a rap album and move on. He has.
I’m with ice on this, 15 year pressure of being peoples top 5-10 artist without a “solo” project, personally he might fear a failed project ijs
He’s scared
He not scared. He cant Relate.
Blasphemy
@@Bear_83 Andre never been relative though, that’s what make him who he is, he separated himself from others a long time ago.
He dropped a flute album. I don’t think he’s scared.
Andre 3k gave us The love below!…and he did NOT disappoint!…this dude sounds like a fool!…TLB killed Speakerboxx
If we could get: messy Mel, destructive flip, punchline parks, and argumentative Ish and Joe! We would have the best episode ever
Why does it bother people that artist like Andre and Kendrick move how they want with their art/music 😂
André 3000 doesn't owe anybody anything. Period.
Big Boi was always my favorite out the two
I’m with Ice 100%. Andre gets pacified in the way no other rapper would
💯
Fax!
He’s better than your fav rapper.
@@ChazBrown22 and he’ll never rank higher than my fav lol
@@IAmGrootFrom63rd- You can rank them wherever you want. I don’t think Andre cares about a ranking of someone he doesn’t know..
Andre 3k has done more with his career than all of these men combined. To act like he owes us anything is absurd. Let the man live.
Andre owes nuthin. They doin their job tryna get him to rap again. We all know this lol
I never understand how people are still having this conversation. His only solo album came out 20 years ago & there’s only 1 rapped verse on it lmfao. There’s nothing shocking about where he is now musically, it’s a natural progression. he’s been consistently saying for 2 decades he’s not inspired in that way why would you want or expect an album
The only thing keeping andre from a solo album is his extreme anxiety
I think that's part of it...but that probably will never go away as long as he is in the public eye. Hence why he has stayed out the limelight. I think he is in a artistic funk and searching for new inspiration hence the flute project. He's always been a eccentric and eclectic guy. His introspection and honesty thru his bars is a gift but it does require a willingness and a passion to deliver. When he finds that cause or reason we will get those bars, but outkast blessed the game enough 🙏.
3 stacks is the male L Boogie and we give Ms Hill the same smoke
Big Boi
Scarface
Need the attention yall wanna force on 3K
Yup thanks bro i love outcast and 3k but folks glaze him too much for a rapper who dont have solo projects 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Face always get props & he’s better than 3k
Idk where this “force” narrative is coming from. It just is what it is…he better than most rappers..one of the goats..
Like bruh dosnt have to keep slaving for a level to be considered a goat.
@@iDewThis4Yu Lmao it’s definitely forced brother that’s why they having this conversation to began with
@donknock-offs Andre 3k is respected by his peers in hip-hop, and considered a goat in hiphop by his peers...If he's most rapper's "favorite rapper" how is his "Goat status" forced?
The ship has sailed. 3K don't got it in him anymore to rap and there's nothing wrong with that. He's evolved into a different person now and it's called growth.
Let’s keep it a buck. Andre is scared to drop a brick. All that hype and top 5-10 ranking.. he can’t afford to drop a flop or something that isn’t critically acclaimed. I understand the worry but that’s what it is if we being honest.
You've hit the nail in the coffin. Which is why he always hid behind Big Boi and features
FACTS!!!!!!!!!!
now that is a good point. He has alot of hype around him, if he drop a flop ppl going to cook him.
That dumb take if every time he is on somebody's song, he got the best verse. He can't brick, that's why he is your favorite rappers rapper
Andre 3000 will not flop if he dropped an album. It will one of hip hops most anticipated albums.
You are talking about a Grammy winning, diamond selling / multi platinum artist that damn near all of the industry elite would jump in line to work with.
He even made a Fonzworth Bentley track hot with a verse.
I swear the Internet..... 🤦🏾♂️
6:27 exactly. He simply does not want to. And the world is mad at him because he’s phenomenal and doesn’t want to anymore. Everybody talks about the evil of the industry. He seen the shit, got his money and dipped. He’s not Nicki or drake clawing and scratching to stay relevant. He’s done and I’m not mad at him. He’s given us timeless music to go back to. And that’s what matters.
Joe deserves more props as an MC. Back in 2006 XM Satellite Radio wouldn't stop playing his Dumb Out track off Mood Muzik. He murdered that Last Dayz freestyle and Halfway House is a dope album. "Mixtape Weezy" was marketable for sure in those days but if we're just talking about rapping Joe was running on cruise control. And had the radio and barbershops on the east coast. He could pull a Killer Mike if he really wanted to.
I still play Dumb Out. It bangs every time.
Love Below is an Outkast album with Big Boi collaboration
Love Below is packaged as 1/2 of an Outkast album, but Big Boi is only on one of the songs. That’s 3000’s solo project. You can listen to the whole project without playing Speakerboxx (at the time anyway since they were two separate cds, but even then with iPods I guess one would play after the other). But nah, that shouldn’t be called an Outkast album from a musical standpoint when he only allowed Big Boi to be on one track.
Andre is so far away from caring what y’all think.. 😂
The thing is, I think he does care. Andre is mad sensitive about his work. That's part of the reason he won't drop an album. Lol
And this isn't just me talking, he's repeatedly said that in interviews. He's said that he's scared that it won't hold up to his expectations or the hype that people have for him.
You can even hear that in his features where he makes reference to it, or in his old verses where his biggest fear was becoming a bad rapper or falling off. "And I hope I never have to float in that boat, up s***s creak, hit squeak is the only note that I wanna hear when it's going down, when all said and done and we got a new Joe in town, when the record player get to skippin and slowing down, all y'all can say is them n****s earned they ground..."
In a way it’s the same way people said her loss was a drake album feat 21 . The love below was generally a Andre 3k album
Andre 3000 needs to stop talking about rappers/Hip-Hop. It's weird when he says he's bored with music today. Then go make some music. Rappers his age and older are still rapping and at an upper echelon level.
Agreed
Disagree.
Nah, Andre 3000 can say whatever he wants. He’s earned that right.
He didn’t say he was bored. He LITERALLY said how much he likes new rappers at Phife’s funeral. He says HE doesn’t have anything to give. Stop being an idiot
He didn’t say he was bored. He LITERALLY said how much he likes new rappers at Phife’s funeral. He says HE doesn’t have anything to give. Stop being an idiot
3k was smart with his money. He wasn’t buying “rapper kits” you could catch that man at Piccadilly or walking around Augusta ga like a regular person. That’s why we relate to him
You don't get a new flow when the faucet is so tightly shut for 20 years.
Ice…Keeping it a double album was a favor/plus for Big Boi. Speakerbox was NO WAY NEAR as good as The Love Below. They BOTH decided to do that so they BOTH can share in the full success WHILE ALLOWING each one of them to be authentically themselves and grow in the direction they wanted to WITHOUT breaking up the Outcast group that we love so much. That was BRILLIANT on their part and it was very separate in my opinion.
"where did you see a raccoon die?"
"Totowa" 😂
"Barnes and Noble flute" 😂
barnes & noble flute is diabolical 😅
I’m with Ice on this. 3 Stacks pulling a Lauryn Hill. Been riding on work from damn near 20 years ago. Pulling the hidden artist. You gotta tip your cap to those who actually produce art.
You can't say that bc 3k has over 50 to 100 features. He has current features. Lauren hasn't done anything since the miss education.
Wayne could of easily just dropped mixtapes. Not one solo album and would still be ranked one of the best off of mixtapes. Yall want another solo project. Love below is a solo project. Yall can't say he doesn't have many verses /features and a solo project. He has enough work to judge his skill.
Y’all should really pay more attention to what he has said over the years than how it was packaged.
Foh he still rapping on features
@@Jurelife yeah other people's songs. They're talkin about albums. Big Boi has dropped 3 albums and a mixtape. I think Andre enjoys having a mystique about him.
If Andre would just come out and officially retire, I wouldn't care.
‘The Love Below’ gave way to ‘808’s & Heartbreaks’ and then came the Drakes, the Childish Gambinos, Tyler and OF and that style we see a lot of artists doing today. Thats about as impactful as it gets.
Nas is the king of all 90's rappers
And still killing it today. Unprecedented.
Relevance?
King of rap period
Hell no
@@gregoryldismukes yea aiight, you played yourself.
Love Below is LITERALLY a solo album.
Just because you can spit a fire verse that don't mean you can make a great rap album. I feel like Big Boy has been disrespected for decades on his contributions to song creation on every Outkast album.
Andre said he really lost his love for HipHop because of the fame & money and all the B S of the industry
Joe Budden "Pump It Up" is classic forever ‼️ 8:24
No it's NOT a solo album until it is marketed and sold as a SOLO album. Public perception shapes history and if you think people will look back on that double album as a Andre 3000 solo body of work you aren't even being honest with yourself. Same reason Black Thought had to finally cut the bullshit and put a project out with his name on it.
Marketing wise, it's not a solo album. But, in terms of, "I can craft a body of work that is just me," yes it's a solo album. Unless the argument is "can you put out a very successful solo album?" He doesn't NEED to put out anything else. He's already proven he can craft a body of work, double digit songs (enough for an album), and lead it all himself and it be amazing.
This is a ridiculous argument. Leave that man be.
I stand with Andre 3000
I've always held them on the same plateu as different sides of the same coin. My top 5 personally. Style, flow, lyricism, etc. are unmatched. Also, 3k don't owe us a damn thing! Yall "rap purist" always moving goal posts for rappers. Just appreciate the great music he gave us!
This is why Andre shouldn’t be in a top 10 convo until he makes a quality, SOLO hip hop album
His lyrics are top 10
@@iamshawnwilliamso are Chino XL’s
Are you crazy 🤪
His features top 10
@@PeterStone-hy6ir💯💯💯
3 STACKS OWES US NOTHING ‼️
Its his skillset, his body of work, his prerogative, his option to create music or not. He doesn't owe us anything!
Artist don’t owe anyone shit
Some people get tired of rap
Even rappers
The Love Below is one of the greatest albums of all time ! NO 🧢 . Its timeless, sounds like he made it last week 😂🔥
❤ Love Andre 3000. But why the f*** does it matter if this man dropped an album or not. For somebody that claim that he really wasn't into all the FAME and had anxiety and stepped away from everything. Y'all got your f****** answer years ago about why he's not dropping anything involving a RAPPING album. He's actually has rapped it songs (example: T.I "SORRY" ft Andre 3000) and he's told it in past interviews. He's on a different vibration and has always been. So let that man be. This is somebody that had a cartoon by himself, was acting in Hollywood doing great by himself. And stepped away from it all. He owes nobody anything. ❤ HE'S ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED A LOT IN HIS LIFESPAN THAN MOST. WHETHER IN A GROUP OR BY HIMSELF ✌🏿
Andre 3000 is wild and stands on his own creatively and its was a hit
I agree with Ice
Andre still slaps
That part Joe!
Ice is chattin. He needs to stop
The Love Below is the reason why it sold so much.
I get what Ice meant though: he meant give us a Andre solo album in the same way that Big Boi gave us Sir Luscious Left Foot, Son Of Chico Dusty back in 2010, and other solo albums that he put out after that. Speakerboxxx/The Love Below was indeed an Outkast album. Ice just over spoke his point
I'm not sure what else 3 stacks has to do before we figure out he does not give a damn what we think.
Andre is was a creative genius who's creativity and lyricism will stand the rest of time. Big Boi is a legend and that can't be argued however he might have become a legend or as big of a legend if he came out as a solo artist. His voice, style lyricism and overall artistry is common. Andre stands out.
Ice contradicting himself. A dree did show he could do it himself musically with the double solo album. What ice is asking for is to see if Andre can market it by himself with just his name on it, but then says it's not about the marketing, it's about the music lmao.
the love below counts fr lol
I agree with this cat 100% ! A hot verse isn't the same as a whole song. Big Boi has great stand alone catalog, outkast songs are just like a mixed drink, you can't separate them. The coldest lines for me came out of daddy fat sacks
Daddy Fat Sackssss. B I G. B O I.
Andre literally said he doesn’t really have anything to talk about nowadays as far as rapping, and it’s moreso something that the youth keeps going. We need to let him enjoy retirement and the hobbies he’s taking up.
The Love Below is Andre's solo album. Big's album was done and Stacks had a solo album that he dropped in at the deadline. It's 2 solo albums that was put out as one, but Stacks dropped the solo! Sheesh!
Joe is right "Love Below" was a solo album. Also OutKast during that time were still on contract and couldn't release solo albums. That's why they did the double CD. I want a Solo album from 3 stacks, but I am not in my feelings for it. Ice needs to step back and look at the big picture. Andre to this day is one of my most genuine artists of his time. He's earned his place to do whatever the fuck he wants to do. He doesn't owe us anything at this point. He's one of the greats and deserves to be left at that.
He doesn't have an obligation to do anything at this point in his career.
They act as though because Andre has the talent to rap that he doesn't have other talents or desires. He has the right to do whatever he wants. He owes no one anything.
📢 ICE, take the Flute out ya A__ 🤣😂 LET IT GO ‼ Steve Rogers retired / Andre 3K retired
We are not entitled to a Andre 3000 solo album. Let’s just be happy he is keeping it real with himself. Hopefully he will have a change of heart.
I don't understand why he hasn't put out another The Love Below type of album. With singing, and at least some rapping.
One rap song. Isn't some rapping 😂
@@twashbeats Big Boi rapped on Roses, but I meant more rapping with the singing. Like K-os, or Drake or Lauren.
@DimWit15 one verse b..cmon..I'm definitely disappointed too many ppl put outb2 much fire for us to rever him as much as we do wit that as. A solo album
@twashbeats I've definitely moved him down my list, compared to his contemporaries with large catalogs of solo material. That being said, I'm still up for some non-flute related new music.
I just think we have no idea how much Big Boi was involved in the creative process when it came to Outkast music.
At this point, I don’t even think his fans really have any expectations- we just want to hear his voice. It’s unfortunate that he doesn’t have it in him. But it almost feels on brand.
Andre 3000 is better than your favorite microwave rapper of this generation 👑 1:20
Kendrick & j cole better than 3k. Tell him to make a album on his own. Get a great part time rapper.
@@shynebayarea510 That made no sense to where you don't even believe what you wrote.
@@henryhudson4965yeah bro sound like he need to get off the dope
Because u too slow to understand k dot or cole..that weirdo 3k solo album was trash he cant make a solo album. Big boi can, k dot and cole got classic solo albums. 3k not on that level. He needs to stand next to big boi to create ideas
@henryhudson4965
I bet you over 50..nobody calls it dope anymore old head 🤣 Yall like that weirdo andre looking like a goofty . Did u buy that flute album? Lmao kendrick got more classics than him. @Saveyourbs
Love below is absolutely a solo Andre 3k album from a music perspective lol it’s only not from a marketing perspective Ice is bugging
The Life of the Party gave me chills. He for sure chooses the this lane he’s in.