I think you may have solved one of the many problems I have with the golf swing. I have arthritis in my spine( I am well into my eighties,handicap from 18 now 44)so have been trying different swings. A shorter swing is now easier but found after hitting the ball (not chicken wing) I have been pulling the club in towards my body with slight bend in lead arm. So will try your drill and perhaps be able to score my age. Wishfull thinking
I hit great shots some of the time but miss it too often usually fat or thin. More often fat than thin. I made some adjustments to better de-loft the club and it’s closer to mixed on fat/thin. I usually break 90 but have too many chunks or thin shots to break 80. Had 84 recently which is close to my best
I recently watched a video on this subject and one of the causes is not getting deep enough in the backswing, which is caused by not getting the trail hip deep enough. This results in a steep swing instead of a rounded one.
I hit way too many of my longer approach shots ( including irons / woods / hybrids ) thin .......it is becoming very frustrating .....I am going to give this drill a try........thank you
Thanks JKM! My play definitely has improved with your instruction. Losing the arm wrestling match always comes to mind. Some ulnar deviation with the irons, handle slightly higher @ impact than @ address, got it. Question: Could some radial deviation be beneficial with a ball teed up pretty high for a driver?
Wow! I am a thinner and this is eye opening. I have been purposely trying to maintain as much radial deviation and right side bend thru impact as possible with the mission being to minimize club head rate of closure. This may explain my consistently thin contact. So my question would be, would increasing ulnar deviation thru impact introduce more face rotation and the need for increased timing in the swing or would that not be of concern? Thanks for your help.
Nice example of how the wrists work at this point. Quick question. Because the hands are a bit lower at address. By the time they are at 8 o'clock then 9 o'clock should they be more like they were at address in some radial deviation or more unlar deviation like they are past impact as you describe here. Not sure what to do. With the the wrist angle in the takeaway. Pls help.
Would raising the handle at address to the impact position make the downswing simpler.. Just as swinging on the same plane does... Thanks for the brilliant videos... Helped me drop from 32 to 25.
There’s a lot out there on the teaching sites that says to keep your hands lower at address. I took that to also keep them low thru impact - and, yes, my miss is thin. And, a little left. Never right or fat. Exactly the outcomes you suggest might be from my swing. My compensation is to side bend on the downswing and definitely ‘go down and get it.’ But that’s hard for me - hence the thin as a bad. Interested to both try your drill as well as see the next in your series.
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Yep, I have thought about how "vertical" my club was at impact, so this is great. This is the first video I've ever seen address this like you have
This is the issues I have had with longer clubs, 3 and/or 5 wood - hitting it thin or fat with the balls flying low. Thanks for the analysis.
Ya did it again... plain n simple. Just another bit of info on the release ... keep them nuggets coming sir.ty
Thanks so much JKM!!! This was the best video that clearly explains of why i hit thin most of my golf shots!! Well done!!!
Spot on. This instruction exactly fixed my random thinning. Thank you.
the right video at the right time for me. thanks Jon.
Fingers crossed this will sort my thin shot out thankyou for the lesson
You nailed it 👏 👌 very detailed and a lot of information in an easy to follow/understand/implement fashion 👍
Excellent stuff. Finally, a true "teacher"!
Will try to incorporate this for my irons,5wd and hybrid. Thanks!
This lesson is amazing! This explains so much of my issue with my irons!
I think you may have solved one of the many problems I have with the golf swing. I have arthritis in my spine( I am well into my eighties,handicap from 18 now 44)so have been trying different swings. A shorter swing is now easier but found after hitting the ball (not chicken wing) I have been pulling the club in towards my body with slight bend in lead arm. So will try your drill and perhaps be able to score my age. Wishfull thinking
Always great instruction from JKM. 👍
Excellent. Super helpful and explained with clarity.
This is exactly my problem. All the way through. Thanks! 😎
Great video - I had a lesson recently where I was told I had too much wrist set and that chasing lag was terrible for strike
Excellent instruction yet again 🎉
Good stuff. Always nice to hear some different thoughts to better understand the golf swing.
Would love to see you do a chipping video based around this concept. A lot of us struggle with thinning the ball on short game shots.
Great idea
Thank you so much! This fixed my issue
wishing you the very best in your teaching endeavors..
to the point, excellent presentation
Thanks for all the great videos. Any chance you will have any short game instruction? Weakest part of my game.
This was right on time
Thank You.............your videos are excellent
Wow I have had t-rex short arm problem forever. Thin shots. Will work on this. Thanks
Thanks, Jonathan, for a great instructional video. You have helped me enormously improve my game.
Good stuff JKM i remember Eric Cogorno teaching this and shouting you out a while ago
I hit great shots some of the time but miss it too often usually fat or thin. More often fat than thin. I made some adjustments to better de-loft the club and it’s closer to mixed on fat/thin. I usually break 90 but have too many chunks or thin shots to break 80. Had 84 recently which is close to my best
I recently watched a video on this subject and one of the causes is not getting deep enough in the backswing, which is caused by not getting the trail hip deep enough. This results in a steep swing instead of a rounded one.
I hit way too many of my longer approach shots ( including irons / woods / hybrids ) thin .......it is becoming very frustrating .....I am going to give this drill a try........thank you
This is very common, but what has helped me is remembering that you still need a downward angle of attack with the long clubs.
the feeling of pressing thumbs down with handle higher than clubbed is a good visual.
Thanks JKM! My play definitely has improved with your instruction. Losing the arm wrestling match always comes to mind. Some ulnar deviation with the irons, handle slightly higher @ impact than @ address, got it. Question: Could some radial deviation be beneficial with a ball teed up pretty high for a driver?
Travino mentioned this, but with chipping. He was recorded in one of his clinics and was put on TH-cam
I definitely get a bit of a chicken wing follow through and the occasional thin or shank. Excited to go try this on the range.
Wow! I am a thinner and this is eye opening. I have been purposely trying to maintain as much radial deviation and right side bend thru impact as possible with the mission being to minimize club head rate of closure. This may explain my consistently thin contact. So my question would be, would increasing ulnar deviation thru impact introduce more face rotation and the need for increased timing in the swing or would that not be of concern? Thanks for your help.
Great video thanks.
Can I ask how much you charge for video analysis and online instruction please?
Love your videos man! Do you have any on good backswings? I kinda feel like I can never get my club in a good spot in the backswing.
Nice example of how the wrists work at this point. Quick question. Because the hands are a bit lower at address. By the time they are at 8 o'clock then 9 o'clock should they be more like they were at address in some radial deviation or more unlar deviation like they are past impact as you describe here. Not sure what to do. With the the wrist angle in the takeaway. Pls help.
Are my hands like this at impact with driver to?
Thanks!
I am having a problem moving my right shoulder back can you let me know what I can do to help this TonyG
This makes sense. I just looked in the mirror while doing this drill and the club face looks like it is in a better position to the ground.
Would raising the handle at address to the impact position make the downswing simpler..
Just as swinging on the same plane does... Thanks for the brilliant videos... Helped me drop from 32 to 25.
If you raise the handle excessively at address then it can affect wrist/arm positions and also the overall movement of your club in the backswing.
There’s a lot out there on the teaching sites that says to keep your hands lower at address. I took that to also keep them low thru impact - and, yes, my miss is thin. And, a little left. Never right or fat. Exactly the outcomes you suggest might be from my swing. My compensation is to side bend on the downswing and definitely ‘go down and get it.’ But that’s hard for me - hence the thin as a bad. Interested to both try your drill as well as see the next in your series.
should impact be ulnar deviation and right hand extension at the same time?
Does the ulnar deviation at impact apply to all the clubs?
Would this be identified if you always take a practice swings without a ball and never hit the ground?
my THIN is clubhead still decending with divot 4-6" past the ball...swing is in CHAOS right now...argh!!!!
I’m hitting a lot of thin shots so that makes sense. What if I start out at address with wrists already extended?
Good video
Jonathan where in Canada are you? And do you do private lessons
I am currently based in Singapore. I moved here for work a few years back
Where do you teach is at Moss Beach off of Highway one
I am based in Singapore !
first! Anyway, I thin to win. Better than a chunk
My ball makes a divot every time i thin it 😂😂😂 still better than a chunk though