@@david9180 That's incorrect. Owning a majority share gives you significant control, but it does not guarantee total control of a company. One share in a company does not always equal one vote. It comes down to what was agreed on about who has the final say.
Sometimes it happens that genuinely good businesses come into the den without a properly polished/prepared pitch and it hinders them but glad they turned it around and got a deal.
they were not good business people, they were good people with a good idea. the genuinely good business person is Hilary for knowing her business basics and not losing sight of what's important
I'm a motorome dealer and duvalay are massive , stocked in all the accessory shops plus supply mattresses direct to motorhome and caravan manufacturers
It's really ridiculous that you can't bring your financial figures with you on paper when you go. They almost always ask. You're allowed to bring things like patents and standing orders, why not financials?
npc: Yes, this is Huge ‼️😯😯 and only one dragon saw that ... I know EXACTLY about the cold back and bum. I solve it by wrapping my sleeping bag inside an Ikea rug 👍👍
Best thing I’ve bought for my caravan. The dragons seem to forget these people can’t answer all their questions they aren’t multi million pound business people that’s the whole point of being in dragons den
It’s really not. The point of the den is for people who need to actual get help. They aren’t business people, they were just a family with a great idea and that is where people with ideas need people like the dragons.
@@mulberryaddict938 That isn’t the point whatsoever. The point is to pitch a business that has already begun establishing itself with bags of potential. Deborah even said she actually liked the product itself. They couldn’t even answer very fundamental questions, which was reasonably worrying for most of the dragons. That being said, Hilary had a heart and also really liked the product itself, so went in with a very fair offer with all things considered.
Quite the opposite, this is why they had a lot of margin between and revenue and net profit. Where did all the £700,000 go? it can't all be cost of goods (they actually manufacture the bedding so its cost of raw materials which is even cheaper). They only took £7.5k each. Now THAT is pittance.
Would he😂 he once told me to pay for something that cost 50 quid with ten 5 pound notes instead of one 50 pound note, because according to him it rhymes with "bank manager".
Please people do not make any contact with the scammers who talk about financial investments and trading in the comments sections of dragons den videos. The websites they use have fake images of people with non existent offices and ridiculously high rewards being promoted for small investments. I contacted them and asked for a video call and they did everything to avoid face to face correspondence. No legitimate investments company would avoid dealing with you face to face.
Whenever you're wondering why they usually play so much music over the episodes, just watch this episode and you'll realise why. The awkward silences are so cringe.
I can understand the cost of alot of a lot of things is business is astronomical especially after the 2008 crash, my parents have their own business and even i (working there 10 years and an accountant) dont have numbers to hand of everything we spend in a year, its abit mental to demand these things in the spot and ynder pressure
Different product, pain to wash sleeping bags regularly and I wouldn't want to sleep in one for more than the odd night. Why do you think they sell so many?
dragon Den maybe very different from US Sharks tank, seems similar with Business however culture difference makes ordinary English citizen thinking ,in the end. Money Investors Rules End of story
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For anyone curious: Raskelf Limited T/A Duvalay posted profits of £1 million in 2022, well done! 👏
love it when people put the work in an make a success.
Source?
@@LemuelBotha company house
Im not just anyone
@@LemuelBotha his backside
Hilary Devey's first business lesson to these two entrepreneurs: Anyone owning 75% of the business has the total control in a Limited company.
51 per cent against 49 gives total control and ownership actually
@@david9180 That's incorrect. Owning a majority share gives you significant control, but it does not guarantee total control of a company. One share in a company does not always equal one vote. It comes down to what was agreed on about who has the final say.
You don't need 51%, just the majority, so it can be 50% + 1 share.@@david9180
@@david9180 you obviously don’t know, so why are you trying to correct people?
@@david9180 like do you think you know more than Hilary? Where does this irrational confidence come from sir?
Hilary was a very smart lady , and always very empathic and kind.
Hillary is a very good business person and kind. Not like Theo and Deborah.
Such a shame she died so young Hilary 🙏
@@gerhardolivier5293 *was*
RIP HILLARY DEVEY she said that this was the best investment she's ever made in the den
Omg didn't know she died last year 😢
Hilary was lovely.
Really? Glad to hear this one panned out well😊
RIP to a lovely lady ❤
Thanks for posting I was wondering where this went I could only see good things. She accentuated the positive.
Sometimes it happens that genuinely good businesses come into the den without a properly polished/prepared pitch and it hinders them but glad they turned it around and got a deal.
they were not good business people, they were good people with a good idea. the genuinely good business person is Hilary for knowing her business basics and not losing sight of what's important
I'm a motorome dealer and duvalay are massive , stocked in all the accessory shops plus supply mattresses direct to motorhome and caravan manufacturers
I love my Duvalay one of the best things we've brought for our caravan so easy & very comfortable.
That’s wonderful feedback.
Do you also like the fumes and chemicals from the memory foam?
Bought their memory foam topper and duvet with fitted sheets for the Motorhome. Superb.
It's really ridiculous that you can't bring your financial figures with you on paper when you go. They almost always ask. You're allowed to bring things like patents and standing orders, why not financials?
Makes for good TV when they forget lol
I didn't know that, it sounds like a ridiculous condition to me.
Anyone can read from a peice of paper, but you probably should know the basic figures for your business when pitching to investors
@@Mikey-pi5mj in the real world you would have the figures with you and you would read them
RIP Hilary
Great to hear there's such a big market in both Holland and the Netherlands.
lmao
The Netherlands is actually Holland + extra counties. So it's different.
@@TheManInBlueFlamesso saying both is pointless
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@@joline2730 and here they are. Still making money and succeeding in life. Never underestimate the market of convenience and laziness.
We thought of every single question. Except any that revolves around the business.
10:34 what a cracking answer that is.
I love Hilary.
RIP Hilary....she was one of my favs.
Did not know rip
They really should know how much they pay their staff😆
They don't want to tell truth because they don't pay them fairly money .
With a staff of 10, you'd think they would have been able to make a good guess..
@@peteli4194 yep😅
Debs was always gonna have a problem with the Mrs 😂
Thank god they didn't bring children with them!
Why?
@@KingKai133 women...
Best thing I’ve bought for my caravan. The dragons seem to forget these people can’t answer all their questions they aren’t multi million pound business people that’s the whole point of being in dragons den
I love these older shows so much better.
Holland and the Netherlands, two huge markets.
Holland and the Netherlands and the Lower country and the country where Dutch people live - even bigger market 😅😅😅
Netherlands is Holland.
@@joannevanstrien3976 Holland is part of the Netherlands.
@@joannevanstrien3976 Woosh!
You DO realise the Netherlands is a COMPLETELY different country? Holland is the core but the Netherlands features MANY other counties.
late Hilary was just beautiful person
Hillary was the best dragon by far, canny but with a kind heart 💜 RIP
Holland and The Netherlands are the same. Worrying no one reacted to that...
They're not the same. Holland is part of a region of the Netherlands.
R.I.P Hilary
She was the real gem.
@@music2872 definitely
Deborah was just looking to argue. She has no idea what her staff costs are
That's not a good thing
Pig in mud
But Deborah isn't the one asking for money, is she?
menopause at its finest.
She was asking extremely basic questions...
Good product, huge potential, Hilary was right, they just need help and direction.
Rest in Peace, Hillary.
I remember this pitch and always wondered why Hilary often asked for 26% beforehand. Now it makes so much sense
"I just want ya money cuz of mi bad back. Running around like lunatics for 7 years and we don't even know our numbers. "
Now, this entire episode, really synced by the Dragoness and the 2 Entrepeneurs. I'm glad they worked out a deal. Looks warm!
2:40 She said the same country twice: The Netherlands = Holland
Holland is a province of the Netherlands.
@@bourbon2242 No, North and South Holland are two of 12 provinces of The Netherlands, which is informally called Holland.
@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 yes
That was astonishing how they didnt know they annual wage bill. They couldnt even add up in the Den and give an estimate
It’s really not. The point of the den is for people who need to actual get help. They aren’t business people, they were just a family with a great idea and that is where people with ideas need people like the dragons.
@@mulberryaddict938 That isn’t the point whatsoever. The point is to pitch a business that has already begun establishing itself with bags of potential. Deborah even said she actually liked the product itself. They couldn’t even answer very fundamental questions, which was reasonably worrying for most of the dragons. That being said, Hilary had a heart and also really liked the product itself, so went in with a very fair offer with all things considered.
They obviously pay the staff pittance that’s why she didn’t wanna say.
Well minimum wage for the basic tasks anyway huh? Why would the staff be on 6 figures?
Quite the opposite, this is why they had a lot of margin between and revenue and net profit. Where did all the £700,000 go? it can't all be cost of goods (they actually manufacture the bedding so its cost of raw materials which is even cheaper).
They only took £7.5k each. Now THAT is pittance.
A great offer from Hilary and Evan Davis was surprisingly well behaved after the pitch too.
Hillary stated a few times this was her most successful investment
If BenjaminGoose invented a prop for sleeping on, he'd call it a "bed"
Would he😂 he once told me to pay for something that cost 50 quid with ten 5 pound notes instead of one 50 pound note, because according to him it rhymes with "bank manager".
Debbie was horrible, I could tell she hated them even before she started questioning them.
To be fair some people don’t have time to obsess over figures, some small companies run from day to day…
Are you for real, there's like £700k missing
Really? If you want your business to grow and with a dragon's help, you make time. You surely see your accounts at some point
Please people do not make any contact with the scammers who talk about financial investments and trading in the comments sections of dragons den videos. The websites they use have fake images of people with non existent offices and ridiculously high rewards being promoted for small investments. I contacted them and asked for a video call and they did everything to avoid face to face correspondence. No legitimate investments company would avoid dealing with you face to face.
What is point running business when they don't know how to explain.
I think these people don't want to tell the truth .
And it would appear to have become an instant success! Superb effort.
I bet she's a nightmare to work with that woman. She'll always say she's right?
Well done Hillary the other dragons were very stuck up at that time, I think they have improved now,,,,
HILARY'S DUVETS!!! 😂
I just bought a cheap memory foam topper from Kmart for like $30 lol
they were being too harsh nobody ever asks wage bills its usually good product bottom line profits and how much equity
Holland and the Netherlands. Hope she knows it’s the same place.
If you don't know your numbers don't pitch up, else you are guaranteed to get nailed.
I just said to myself Touker would try it but realised he’s not there😂
has any of them ever sad it's ridiculous without adding that it's ludicrous?
I just wanna announce (from a long history of staunch heterosexuality) I am consistently impressed by Peter's face
Duncan says, "It's ludicrous - I'm out!" I would say, "It's lunatic-ous - I'm daft!"😋😋😋!!
Hilary Duvet!
RIP Hilary.
Rip Hilary
wow big market both in the Netherlands and in Holland 😂
Peters age seems to go up and down each youtube episode. Maybe depends which side of the bed he gets out of each morning?
Or maybe they're all filmed at different points in time. Now there's a thought to ponder.
He's a time traveler 😂
It depends whether he's been "unusually quiet" on a particular day 😅
tool
RIP Hillary. She was a beast. Real smart business lady. And awesome Corella davile vibes or however you spell it lol. A true character indeed.
Clever idea.
Hilary Devey is literally Cruella de Vil
You always get the truth from children and Mr. Ballentines 😁
Bannatyne
Who is Mr ballentines? I do know however there is a Mr banatine
Loved no heirs and graces Hillary who looked passed the problems and saw an investable business.
I like Hillary...
Way more than Dunky.
Or Debs.
D & D 😅🤣😂
"You can't call her Debs..."
Duno... duno
Whenever you're wondering why they usually play so much music over the episodes, just watch this episode and you'll realise why. The awkward silences are so cringe.
Have they never watched the show before?
I can understand the cost of alot of a lot of things is business is astronomical especially after the 2008 crash, my parents have their own business and even i (working there 10 years and an accountant) dont have numbers to hand of everything we spend in a year, its abit mental to demand these things in the spot and ynder pressure
Lights are on, but nobody's at home.
🙏🏼 Hilary Devey 🙏🏼
It’s very obvious what they are spending.
what
Deborah be sick 🥶
Good on ya Hillary..rip amen.
They were so naive they didn't counter-offer by asking for more money for the 26% offered...
They were not in a position to bargain
Duvey is in for duvet.
Holland is part of the Netherlands!
I had 3 pieces of bacon ..2 fried eggs and cucumber slices for lunch..
Take that Dr.Quack..nobody tells me I need to lower my cholesterol
It's what you did with the cucumber that counts pam 😂
@@mickharrison9004 I ate it
@@pamelahaze3211 I wasn't expecting that luv 😂
RIP Hilary!
She's a right Karen
Buy a good quality sleeping bag much cheaper
Different product, pain to wash sleeping bags regularly and I wouldn't want to sleep in one for more than the odd night.
Why do you think they sell so many?
Quality and cheaper than 120£? Hardly…
Such a boring pitch
Well done Hillary. She was a woman with a heart and head of steel
Was Hillary having a few mini strokes?
I AM OOT!!!
I love it how Hilary was just silent for about 5 seconds.
the wife sounded sooooooo desperate
She wanted to redo the kitchen!
Don't think she liked Deborah much either 😊
Scream for Hillary - GOAT dragon
I wonder how much Peters teeth cost
Holland and the Netherlands
1:08 just look at that evil face
or attitude when you can't say the basics. PASS
The good old days when they use to hug and kiss. Now the dragons are scared of catching a cold.
dragon Den maybe very different from US Sharks tank, seems similar with Business however culture difference makes ordinary English citizen thinking ,in the end. Money Investors Rules End of story
RIP Hillary lovely Lady, gone far to soon 🙏
Holland AND The Netherlands? Wow, what a market!
Sad hillary has gone
Hillary ❤
WWE scriptwriters in on this one?
Love Hillary.
I don't think I could work with her.
I already do lmao
The size their egos make their bank balance look tiny
Company is now worth 7 billion
Serious? Damn🎉🎉
Haha yeah…
With a net profit of 4 trillion and net assets worth €0.69p
No, it's worth 1.3 million
The company posted 1 million in profit in 2022. Not worth anything close to 7 billion.