Wait for their prices, just today I got a price to fix a broken ring for 95 pounds, same to fix on just one tiny point a broken pendant and 230 to make a pair of errings from a bracelet (they should have given the hooks), 14k rare in the UK because of it we offered to give gold for fixing to avoid that they use 9k. Also the work would have lasted for weekS. Now I am here hoping to learn....
Stumbled across this vid by mistake, but dang was I intrigued. I can't believe how much I learned about gold solder, the boric acid solution and properties of gold under high heat conditions...in just 4:14....sheesh!...excellent job, sir!!👍
The alcohol used is denatured alcohol, usually you can pick up at any hardware store. I use an old baby food jar and use about a quarter to a half inch of the powder boric acid (hardware store cockroach and ant killer is boric acid, that is what I use. Check the label but on mine it says 100% boric acid..) And then I fill the jar about 3/4 of the way full of denatured alcohol. I have a hole cut into the lid of the baby food jar and a brush that I use to dab the solution onto the ring.
Really good video to watch, I loved the idea of not mucking around with extra blah, blah, blah. My question was how to solder a gold ring back together and you got straight to the point. Awesome! Thanku, I'm glad I finally found someone that demonstrates your question without all the Fancy Blurb. Your the man to watch! You know your stuff and plenty of people will learn a lot by following your advice. Thanks again much appreciated⛏️ Highly recommend!!!
I really love your videos! Can you share the boric acid and alcohol recipe? How much boric acid related to the quantity of alcohol. Thanks and I hope that other videos will be uploaded soon. You do a fantastic job here.
1)what kind of alcohol? does methanol work ok? 2)what is the ratio of the solution 3)what is green flux? 4)can gold jewlery be brazed or is that too hot and will melt the gold? 5)also the lower the karat the higher the melting point of gold? 6)are you matching the karat of the ring? 7)can silver be used instead?
Ohhh thank you sir my father was not telling me this trick because he is by nature like this even he need something is not going to tell much so I learned from you you are my teacher as well once again thank you sir love you sir may Allah make you Muslims inshaAllah Ameen 😊😊😊 have good day sir
And you should be using Hard solder, instead of Easy solder. Easy solder has a lower melting point and doesn't make the joint as strong as Hard solder would. Easy solder will show seams and is more likely to crack and break as well. But like I said before.. A ordinary band should never be cut-sized, rather shrunk/stretched.
What alcohol are you using, Chuck? Ethyl, methyl or vodka :-D I'm serious - I use vodka as a wetting agent in egg tempera painting and wondered if it would also work with boric acid soln. in jewellery making but maybe there are too many other ingredients in vodka to make it useful.
Thank you so much. Very practical instruction. Subscribed. I just wish after the soldering we would’ve seen a very close-up look of what a proper soldering looks like. Ans after filing too.
Hello can someone please help me find a source for silver and 14kt jewelry making supplies? Im tired of the crap that you find at Micheals. I like to make my own things but I want real designer quality metals. TYIA
Where did you purchase your 18k gold e z flow solder from? Can't I use Borax flux to keep the metal clean? I'm too clumsy to use boric acid. Lol Also, I'm going to solder gold jump rings on my copper tape, is it possible to solder gold jump rings on copper tape?
If its just a band you should have just shrunk it. Hardly ever should you have to cut-size a band. Unless of course there is a taper or diamonds, exc. But just a typical gold band shouldn't have to be cut sized.
Thanks for great video. Sbcrb'd How can I clean the copper leach from 10k w/o loosing details in ring. I re-pronged a ring casting -melle prongs cast too weak/small. ended up w/ melted borax and copper in fine details. I'm a hobbyist & live over 400 mls from nearest jewel school so I'm attending hard knocks U. Thanks so much
Rangga.. I have no experience with online classes, but I can defiantly suggest taking a course. I attended a course in Paola KS, where Mr.Gene Wilson instructs 3 different classes, one for beginners, one for master stone setting and also a class on casting. I would highly recommend doing this over an online course because the instructor is working right there with you and he is right there over your shoulder teaching you things based on what you already know and also is doing it at your pace.
How do you keep from marring the metal with the ring bending pliers you used? I have some and they always mar the metal. Even when I cut out pieces of copper to cover the surfaces--it still marks the metal.
Marcos.. The easy solder is a good choice for a chain, and you have to be especially careful if it is a hollow chain. Before you know it you could end up with a puddle of gold :0 But the only reason I could think of is with the torch you are using it might be too broad of a flame, with chains you want to direct the heat in a pinpoint spot, so I would lower the levels if gas/oxy and just make a smaller, tighter flame. Not hotter, just a tighter flame.
quenching in water is too fast for some gold alloys and will make them brittle. quenching in denatured alcohol is a slower cooling quench. its like how you quench steel in oil rather than water.
+May McDonough Yes A soldering pen is simply a combination of gold solder and flux mixture. The heat process is the same. Not to be confused w/a "soldering iron" some people call a 'pen". That is used for electronics solder
most of thse "pens" are available at reputable companies that serve jewelers specifically. i would never recommend people buy gold or any metals from rio grande unless you are just a hobbyist or student. rio grande is NOT a metal source for true professionals and they do not wholesale the metal, they ask full market retail mark up. that can get very expensive very fast especially since wholesale prices are much lower than you think.
This is an awesome video and I love that I can see everything up close. I've been soldering sterling silver jewelry for a couple years now and wanted to expand into gold. I have a couple questions: 1. How was that little ball of gold solder made? just heated a piece that put it on when the flux began to bubble ? 2. I have boric acid, what is the boric acid: alcohol ratio? Do you use denatured alcohol? 3. what kind of file are you using to file when finishing? THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
I can answer #1: You cut a small square of solder and heat it by itself. When it melts, surface tension draws it into a ball, making it easier to pick up with the soldering pick. A sphere is also less likely to shift out of place drastically if the flux bubbles after you've placed the solder on the joint.
Truly excellent question!! I have NEVER heard of using a flux as a quench- please, if you would be so kind, explain THAT!!! It was a wonderful video, totally different. Thanks so much.
i have my grandmother gave me don't know if its real it looks very vintage style Victorian. no marking where tha stone is which I have no idea what it is tha color is sored of cranberry red my ?? is how do I know if it is gold and wat type of gold is it where stone is placed the gold is underneath tha ring no opening no stone under just the top ?? wats this mean hope u can help thanks.
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Nice job. You've convinced me to take my soldering issues to a jeweler.
Same!
Wait for their prices, just today I got a price to fix a broken ring for 95 pounds, same to fix on just one tiny point a broken pendant and 230 to make a pair of errings from a bracelet (they should have given the hooks), 14k rare in the UK because of it we offered to give gold for fixing to avoid that they use 9k. Also the work would have lasted for weekS. Now I am here hoping to learn....
Stumbled across this vid by mistake, but dang was I intrigued. I can't believe how much I learned about gold solder, the boric acid solution and properties of gold under high heat conditions...in just 4:14....sheesh!...excellent job, sir!!👍
The alcohol used is denatured alcohol, usually you can pick up at any hardware store. I use an old baby food jar and use about a quarter to a half inch of the powder boric acid (hardware store cockroach and ant killer is boric acid, that is what I use. Check the label but on mine it says 100% boric acid..) And then I fill the jar about 3/4 of the way full of denatured alcohol. I have a hole cut into the lid of the baby food jar and a brush that I use to dab the solution onto the ring.
I would anneal and compress it smaller rather than making a cut and join. Why not keep it seamless?
Well done- even I understood what to do. Thanks for taking the time!
Really good video to watch, I loved the idea of not mucking around with extra blah, blah, blah. My question was how to solder a gold ring back together and you got straight to the point. Awesome! Thanku, I'm glad I finally found someone that demonstrates your question without all the Fancy Blurb.
Your the man to watch! You know your stuff and plenty of people will learn a lot by following your advice. Thanks again much appreciated⛏️ Highly recommend!!!
I really love your videos!
Can you share the boric acid and alcohol recipe? How much boric acid related to the quantity of alcohol.
Thanks and I hope that other videos will be uploaded soon. You do a fantastic job here.
Hi. Many thanks. This video explains everything I needed to know. Now then. Lets do some soldering. vini.
Hi - great video! Wonder if you can show us how to make simple solid gold ball end headpins?
1)what kind of alcohol? does methanol work ok?
2)what is the ratio of the solution
3)what is green flux?
4)can gold jewlery be brazed or is that too hot and will melt the gold?
5)also the lower the karat the higher the melting point of gold?
6)are you matching the karat of the ring?
7)can silver be used instead?
Had my 18k ring re sized and the mark looks almost coppery do jewellers used 18k pure gold to attach it back
Ohhh thank you sir my father was not telling me this trick because he is by nature like this even he need something is not going to tell much so I learned from you you are my teacher as well once again thank you sir love you sir may Allah make you Muslims inshaAllah Ameen 😊😊😊 have good day sir
@lavenderbear1989 I just did a search in Ebay for "jewellery bending pliers" and found some.
Awesome Video ,thanks Ive been a very hands on guy my entire life and i was basically just Curious on how it was done
Can you gold solder a gold plated watch case. I think it’s brass and has gold plating on it
And you should be using Hard solder, instead of Easy solder. Easy solder has a lower melting point and doesn't make the joint as strong as Hard solder would. Easy solder will show seams and is more likely to crack and break as well. But like I said before.. A ordinary band should never be cut-sized, rather shrunk/stretched.
shrunk? how can I do that?
Can you show how to solder mounted jewels to a pendant?
Sir I want bye a torch gun how I purchased
Can't believe this was 11 years ago.
I love your videos!! Thank you so much.
Can we use the boric acid mix with other metals, like sterling silver? Copper? Brass?
Thank you
Straight to the point & explained very well. Nice video 👍
How much the soldering?
i finish that ring in 5 min mean finish
What alcohol are you using, Chuck? Ethyl, methyl or vodka :-D I'm serious - I use vodka as a wetting agent in egg tempera painting and wondered if it would also work with boric acid soln. in jewellery making but maybe there are too many other ingredients in vodka to make it useful.
Thank you so much. Very practical instruction. Subscribed. I just wish after the soldering we would’ve seen a very close-up look of what a proper soldering looks like. Ans after filing too.
your video was really quite excellent
thank you for sharing
Hello can someone please help me find a source for silver and 14kt jewelry making supplies? Im tired of the crap that you find at Micheals. I like to make my own things but I want real designer quality metals. TYIA
Where did you purchase your 18k gold e z flow solder from? Can't I use Borax flux to keep the metal clean? I'm too clumsy to use boric acid. Lol Also, I'm going to solder gold jump rings on my copper tape, is it possible to solder gold jump rings on copper tape?
Excellent demonstration. I’m trying to solder some gold links and the solder just won’t flow.
Anyone know how to prepare the boric acid-alcohol solution AND how to polish afterward?
hi im just starting off and was wondering what you recommend flux wise? best flux to use mainly on 9ct gold, thanks
Is this 24k gold?
It puts the lotion on it's skin, or it get the hose again...
Specifically what kind of alcohol? Completely Denatured?
If its just a band you should have just shrunk it. Hardly ever should you have to cut-size a band. Unless of course there is a taper or diamonds, exc. But just a typical gold band shouldn't have to be cut sized.
Why not reduce size with a dye? What happens to the gold you remove?
Thanks for great video. Sbcrb'd
How can I clean the copper leach from 10k w/o loosing details in ring.
I re-pronged a ring casting -melle prongs cast too weak/small. ended up w/ melted borax and copper in fine details. I'm a hobbyist & live over 400 mls from nearest jewel school so I'm attending hard knocks U.
Thanks so much
Never mind figured it out for myself.
Nice video and could you tell me that everyone using this gold peice to solider gold jwellery ?
Thank you... this helped immensely!
Very informative. Nice video.
So where do you get the 14k yellow gold easy flow plumb solder?
how about a platinum head to a gold shank I work for a world wide company .the head's are coming off
Rangga.. I have no experience with online classes, but I can defiantly suggest taking a course. I attended a course in Paola KS, where Mr.Gene Wilson instructs 3 different classes, one for beginners, one for master stone setting and also a class on casting. I would highly recommend doing this over an online course because the instructor is working right there with you and he is right there over your shoulder teaching you things based on what you already know and also is doing it at your pace.
How do you keep from marring the metal with the ring bending pliers you used? I have some and they always mar the metal. Even when I cut out pieces of copper to cover the surfaces--it still marks the metal.
Wow! That made it look so easy. Why can't all instruction be like this? The tool can be bought on EBay or other jewelry supply vendors.
Very professional, thanks.
Marcos.. The easy solder is a good choice for a chain, and you have to be especially careful if it is a hollow chain. Before you know it you could end up with a puddle of gold :0 But the only reason I could think of is with the torch you are using it might be too broad of a flame, with chains you want to direct the heat in a pinpoint spot, so I would lower the levels if gas/oxy and just make a smaller, tighter flame. Not hotter, just a tighter flame.
it's just what I needed. thanks
Would you make a video with techniques for gold filled? :)
what sort of alcohol do you mix the boric acid with to make that solution ? thanks ste
thanks for making this video. I liked it very much. Simple to comprehend and steps made easy.
Markos.. sorry about the misspelling of your name..
Great easy to understand steps-thanks
Love it. but I do not understand why you used the solution of boric acid and alcohol as a quench?
quenching in water is too fast for some gold alloys and will make them brittle. quenching in denatured alcohol is a slower cooling quench. its like how you quench steel in oil rather than water.
Very informative, thanks.
Id use hard solder
Good stuff. Thanks
Thanks for the video. Where can I get the boric acid and gold solder?
+Birdwoman58 Rio Grande is a good source for supplies. riogrande.com
Why does it oxidize at the join? Isn't protected just as much there? Thanks
Probably flux washes the protective layer off.
He sounds like buffalo bill from Silence of the Lambs
lmao,,i thought he had a familiar voice
sodder sodder sodder ....
PS it is a ring
Thank you!!!
I was really curious if there was such thing as gold solder. I'm glad to find out that there is! Can you do this process with a soldering pen?
+May McDonough Yes A soldering pen is simply a combination of gold solder and flux mixture. The heat process is the same.
Not to be confused w/a "soldering iron" some people call a 'pen". That is used for electronics solder
+May McDonough ...Gold solder can be purchase from a jeweler's supply company, such as riogrande.com
most of thse "pens" are available at reputable companies that serve jewelers specifically. i would never recommend people buy gold or any metals from rio grande unless you are just a hobbyist or student. rio grande is NOT a metal source for true professionals and they do not wholesale the metal, they ask full market retail mark up. that can get very expensive very fast especially since wholesale prices are much lower than you think.
Hi, Can you advise how to get gold at cheaper prices then rio grande? what to do if i want 14 k gold wires for simple rings? kindly advise.
Findnot Formetoknow what do you recommend I've been buying from Rio and they are expensive any help would be greatly appreciated thanks
@relu777
how do I find the online course?
Art Studio did you find anything
This is an awesome video and I love that I can see everything up close. I've been soldering sterling silver jewelry for a couple years now and wanted to expand into gold. I have a couple questions: 1. How was that little ball of gold solder made? just heated a piece that put it on when the flux began to bubble ? 2. I have boric acid, what is the boric acid: alcohol ratio? Do you use denatured alcohol? 3. what kind of file are you using to file when finishing? THANK YOU SO MUCH !!
I can answer #1: You cut a small square of solder and heat it by itself. When it melts, surface tension draws it into a ball, making it easier to pick up with the soldering pick. A sphere is also less likely to shift out of place drastically if the flux bubbles after you've placed the solder on the joint.
Truly excellent question!! I have NEVER heard of using a flux as a quench- please, if you would be so kind, explain THAT!!! It was a wonderful video, totally different. Thanks so much.
Neither was it flux, nor did he quench the ring. He just dipped it in boric acid to cool it and prevent further oxidation and discoloration.
i have my grandmother gave me don't know if its real it looks very vintage style Victorian. no marking where tha stone is which I have no idea what it is tha color is sored of cranberry red my ?? is how do I know if it is gold and wat type of gold is it where stone is placed the gold is underneath tha ring no opening no stone under just the top ?? wats this mean hope u can help thanks.