I love watching this stuff, I never end up getting this far into lategame but its interesting watching others do so. Always enjoyed your build showcases/guides Subtractem! :)
I really want to make my own builds.. but I just get stuck. My knowledge of uniques isn’t great since I only started playing in heist, and only have around 1000 hours and most of that time spent was following guides and I feel like I never learned anything. I get stuck because I can set up a pretty vanilla build, life, res, defenses and some regular damage. But I can never figure out how to push the build further. :/
As someone that is about 400 hours in and just following guides I feel like the proper way to play is actually SSF and learn how to craft. That's what I plan to do next league - basically play a less complex build like Arakali but take it slow and learn the entire crafting system.
@@inzaniatelcontar4600 as u gain hours in SSF. u learn when to craft and what to craft. Zizran runs a Poe University video series for free. he posts it on his YT channel. it's pretty informative 😂 and pause-able ! lol
As always man, you never fail to amaze me. If you are looking for even more challenge try building a melee character , but with a skill different than cyclone. I am sure you can come up with something crazy , because you know - you got the currency , skills and knowledge. Damn again , what an awesome budget friendly build.
Plaid Speed? well, look at mister science fiction over here with the 35 year old references. Then again, it was a good movie, should probably rematch it.
I've built something half decent but for the life of me get fucked by something that degens me. 103k armour, 90 all res (125+), Max block, 7.2k energy shield, but I can die rarely to degen. I recall you mentioning it in one of your videos but can't remember which. Any help would be awesome 👍
After many leagues since legion i made the effort again to farm a hh in week 2 or 3, absolutely amazing how much more money you make once you can start blasting juiced mapa
I hate how all viable builds on this game need to go for armour (besides cwdt), it is frustrating to want to not fuck your tree going for armour + determination on builds that this does no fit
Cold BV doesn't need armour literally, you just need big aoe and 90%++ chance freeze (besides from crit), I'm doing 30 wave simulacrum and some 100% deli map without die, and off course it's not bossing viable
It would be difficult. Can do less than 100ex early in a league but it's the number one meta build at the moment so prices are high. 2-3 hours a day is different for everyone. If you know how to craft for profit than can be 1000ex a week. If you just alch and go map that's more like 40-50ex.
hey subtractem, i was wondering how you proc arcane surge? with the pob given, its attached to flame dash and whirling blades, but you dont have a mana cost on either of those. thanks!
Throw it in with sniper's mark or assassin's mark. Most pobs cheat to make dps a lot higher but arcane never procs. If not with a gem, use notable in your cluster, forgotten the name but it'll replace arcane heroism or another. It gives arcane surge when you channel for 1 sec.
I really didn't want to watch this because I am almost caught up to the build as you prevously posted it. Now I'll have severe envy after watching this :/ Good job though! Awesome build.
@@subtractem yeah I get that, but I was looking at the numbers and my brain went....waaait a minute!! Anyways thanks for the answer, and your videos! Helpt me understand the game a lot! Much love from Sweden 🇸🇪 😊
you clearly miss a % somewhere like gloves implicit/purity of ice level, and btw, you need to cap it with items, melding just up the maximum resistances, it doesn't fix your resistances at 90%
Okay I know it's cast on crit forbidden rite occultist...but when is that ever said in the video? Or title? Description? I just think it should be somewhere. When people search TH-cam for videos on the build they won't find this one.
Should it be? One could argue that the initial investment of 50-60ex before demand and inflation is considered a little steep. I think they'll leave all of the Support and Skill gems alone. They'll just nerf the shit out of aegis and melding because they think that too little investment for that much defence.
It does not make sense to reveal your currency making methods to thousands of people until you have already made enough currency for your build and end league etc
hi, i got a problem. i have PoB Triggerrate of 10.07 with an onslaught ring and an no evade dagger . But if i use the onslaught ring my cyclone oftentimes doesnt hit. i can stand in a pack of 30 monsters and no enemy gets hit for like 2 seconds sometimes. this even happens with bosses. Do you guys have any idea what could cause this? without the onslaught ring and like 9,2x triggerate everything is fine and smooth.
Are you capped crit and if so, does this only happen to a certain group of expedition monsters? Are your rocking frenzy charges that you’re not aware of?
@@alluo1009 thanks for replying. yes crit cap, everything. i have basically the samish gear as subtractem in his mageblood build. its even bosses. i can cyclone though sirus for 10 second without his bar moving in his last phase. its like delay. no frenzies no. i also think that the triggerrate is based on the client, so server lag doesnt come into play either (which is like 80 ms now).
@@subtractem i figured it out. its a combination of boot enchant and too little reserved mana. the self inflicting projectile doesnt get cast bc the cyclone robs too much mana initially. so i need to get hit, which doesnt happen often, so i have long streaks of zero projectile casts. thanks for the hint.
Technically, you can, since transitioning from Bane-Occultist to this is pretty smooth. You just use your 'levling'-build for a much longer time than usual xD
Can’t wait until they further balance the game around what content creators are doing. Now regular players are stuck with aegis/melding on every single build lol
Wondering the same thing 😄 I have an in-between from the budget version and the Mageblood version. How do I get the next 2000 exalts in a couple of weeks pls?
@@JunCroccifixioWayne his chest alone is around 200ex, the pc onslought ring another 150 or more the skean idk 300ex? and that crown is probably a mirror if not more even among the top dps guys i´ve seen only 1 like that
lol i did one flawless chayula this league (which i dropped from the only feared i did solo this league) and dropped the fractured defences chest to then first try put it on a vaal regalia anyways ggs insane build
bleed shouldn't be an issue with corrupted blood immunity and the minor pantheon, ignite on the other hand... can get kinda sketchy so I might try to get that avoidance on my jewels like subtractem has
@@nunyabidness9765 You need very specific flasks that do not include bleed options (reduced mana, armour, speed, etc.). I guess I could change one, but I am not sure how that will work. I am looking for jewels with reduced ignite.
My men its impressive what you craft for pushing the build to extreme. I WISH I have the amount of time you spend playing in this game. Im a family 2 daughters dad guy with full time work. So I only play in some of my free time that are not real much. I Real like this game very much so I want ask if You can make a build that can be real strong in dps and in defences but easy to make it for a casual player like me? Thanks my men and have a great time.
Its a sick build showcase, thanks for sharing but please stop saying "on a budget" when were talking about mageblood global defence vaal regalia build.
Build Guide: th-cam.com/video/_hLmwqcmbqg/w-d-xo.html
Can you update the pob tree please ? Thanks alot sir !
I love watching this stuff, I never end up getting this far into lategame but its interesting watching others do so. Always enjoyed your build showcases/guides Subtractem! :)
I'd have to quit my job and leave my spouse in order to achieve 1/1000 of 1% of this power.
Its worthit i bet you !!
That’s a good one, mate.
Still better than me, I have to send my kids to foster care too.
That clump up at that huge clump up of mobs at around 2:15 is wild man. Damn!
Is this what they jokingly call unethical clear?
Badass man! Love it!
This was the first build I took to 100 after 2200 hours. Thank you so much.
I really want to make my own builds.. but I just get stuck. My knowledge of uniques isn’t great since I only started playing in heist, and only have around 1000 hours and most of that time spent was following guides and I feel like I never learned anything. I get stuck because I can set up a pretty vanilla build, life, res, defenses and some regular damage. But I can never figure out how to push the build further. :/
go to his discord and post your pob there will be people helping
As someone that is about 400 hours in and just following guides I feel like the proper way to play is actually SSF and learn how to craft. That's what I plan to do next league - basically play a less complex build like Arakali but take it slow and learn the entire crafting system.
@@inzaniatelcontar4600 That's a very good way to learn indeed. Take it slow at your own pace.
@@inzaniatelcontar4600 as u gain hours in SSF. u learn when to craft and what to craft. Zizran runs a Poe University video series for free. he posts it on his YT channel. it's pretty informative 😂 and pause-able ! lol
Ludicrous "Plaid" ?! Bro haha Subtractum, was that a Spaceballs Reference!? Hahaha. 😂😂😂❤
Crazy looking build! Ended up spending all my currencies in CWDT Scion instead!
Can you provide PoB for that build please?
As always man, you never fail to amaze me. If you are looking for even more challenge try building a melee character , but with a skill different than cyclone. I am sure you can come up with something crazy , because you know - you got the currency , skills and knowledge.
Damn again , what an awesome budget friendly build.
/sarcasm off
@subtractem any chance we could get crafting guides for you gear? :) Like a low and high budget version for post MB gear would be super!
My god, a Space Balls reference in 2022
We brake for nobody!
Plaid Speed? well, look at mister science fiction over here with the 35 year old references. Then again, it was a good movie, should probably rematch it.
"Cost?"
"Yes."
These are my favourite kinds of builds
5 mirro sir xd
I've built something half decent but for the life of me get fucked by something that degens me. 103k armour, 90 all res (125+), Max block, 7.2k energy shield, but I can die rarely to degen. I recall you mentioning it in one of your videos but can't remember which. Any help would be awesome 👍
Ignite &/or bleed? 🤔
Random (most likely silly) question....Why are we doing non channeling mana reduction?
Forbidden rite costs mana when triggered
0:30 holy shet the dodging
Yeah you can give me 5 mirrors to make a gigs build but my gameplay will look like I’m trying to catch the balls XD
Subtractem, what do you think about playing this build with the new Trickster ascendancy coming out in 3.19?
i dont think the synergy is strong enough versus what Occultist gives you
What super high end build do you think is the best for min maxing ( enjoyment wise) aurastacker, TS , coc/wardloop,stackers?
Aura 100% - far superior to anything.
Ts Phys to Cold defensive. 80-90 mil ευκολα, πολυ γρηγορο και πολυ καλη αμυνα. Aura ειναι βαρεμαρα μεγαλη.
After many leagues since legion i made the effort again to farm a hh in week 2 or 3, absolutely amazing how much more money you make once you can start blasting juiced mapa
yeah had my first headhunter this league. i cant map without now :D
Is there any reason you choose Awk Add Chaos Dmg over Inc Crit Strk Dmg? I imported your PoB, it shows Inc Crit Strk Dmg gives more DPS.
Mana multiplier
I was following your bane guide but not the change video for this build, do you have any?
how do you get forbidden rite to take the damage from shield and not health?
Swapping the aura effect for light of divinity would be an upgrade. How do you counter the frenzy on kill IAS?
might be using the inner conviction.
@@silvioantonio6952 ah yes , seem to have always overlooked that.
Aura effect gives me lots of defense, swapping it to light of divinity is like 1.5% more damage. Not worth.
cant tank tentacle boss boom mechanic... as it ignores all defenses, block, spell suppresion, everything and just kills you.
Subtractem flexing his currency for 9 minutes xD
not all of it is his. his minions give it to him 4 videos. 😂
I hate how all viable builds on this game need to go for armour (besides cwdt), it is frustrating to want to not fuck your tree going for armour + determination on builds that this does no fit
Cold BV doesn't need armour literally, you just need big aoe and 90%++ chance freeze (besides from crit), I'm doing 30 wave simulacrum and some 100% deli map without die, and off course it's not bossing viable
Is there any point trying to achieve this build playing 2-3h a day? Is it viable before investing 100 exalts?
It would be difficult. Can do less than 100ex early in a league but it's the number one meta build at the moment so prices are high.
2-3 hours a day is different for everyone. If you know how to craft for profit than can be 1000ex a week. If you just alch and go map that's more like 40-50ex.
@@subtractem I'm no master crafter. So I'm gonna find a better suited build I think :)
how are you getting arcane surge without an arcane surge on hit ring? is it just from flamedash while mapping and arcane heroism on bosses?
Only for unique monsters. Which is fine, the damage is so high and mana is solved so it's just bonus single target.
any updates on this build
Next up: double corrupting all your jewels to get more immunities.
hey subtractem, i was wondering how you proc arcane surge? with the pob given, its attached to flame dash and whirling blades, but you dont have a mana cost on either of those. thanks!
Throw it in with sniper's mark or assassin's mark. Most pobs cheat to make dps a lot higher but arcane never procs. If not with a gem, use notable in your cluster, forgotten the name but it'll replace arcane heroism or another. It gives arcane surge when you channel for 1 sec.
It's only for the pob since the Cluster jewel Arcane surge does not register in pob.
Hello! Loved your build so much, I’m wondering if this build got affected by 3.19 patch?
Barely touched! Just drop defiance banner and focus a bit more on max res
@@subtractem thats the answer i was looking for
Can't wait for the double corrupting session for this build
I really didn't want to watch this because I am almost caught up to the build as you prevously posted it. Now I'll have severe envy after watching this :/ Good job though! Awesome build.
I'm still stuck in white maps and am finding it hard to get currency to finish my build on the other end of the spectrum lmao
question; on pob your chaos res is +3, but then you have widering presence allocated? what am I missing?
I'm immune anyway because of Chaos Inoculation
@@subtractem yeah I get that, but I was looking at the numbers and my brain went....waaait a minute!!
Anyways thanks for the answer, and your videos! Helpt me understand the game a lot!
Much love from Sweden 🇸🇪 😊
We will need that mageblood to easy cap res+ an 100% global defense fracture. how easy strong character here lol!
I've shown this build at all investment. It is very strong before a mageblood or global defenses armour as well.
Doesnt the frenzy implicit on your dagger mess with your APS?
Because of the timeless jewel keystone we actually can't get frenzy charges.
How much is the build?
sees Mageblood
Hi, I got your build but my maximum cold resist is 89% how can i get 90%? and the melding of flesh cobalt jewel doesnt capp my resist at 89%
you clearly miss a % somewhere like gloves implicit/purity of ice level, and btw, you need to cap it with items, melding just up the maximum resistances, it doesn't fix your resistances at 90%
Okay I know it's cast on crit forbidden rite occultist...but when is that ever said in the video? Or title? Description? I just think it should be somewhere. When people search TH-cam for videos on the build they won't find this one.
what does the -mana cost of non channeling do for your cyclone ?
Nothing, but FR costs a ton of mana which is why we need it.
Should it be nerfed or is this what you should expect at this investment?
Should it be? One could argue that the initial investment of 50-60ex before demand and inflation is considered a little steep. I think they'll leave all of the Support and Skill gems alone. They'll just nerf the shit out of aegis and melding because they think that too little investment for that much defence.
man id love to hear you talk about how you progress your currency strat throughout the season
It does not make sense to reveal your currency making methods to thousands of people until you have already made enough currency for your build and end league etc
@@okenan Which he evidently did...?
hi, i got a problem. i have PoB Triggerrate of 10.07 with an onslaught ring and an no evade dagger . But if i use the onslaught ring my cyclone oftentimes doesnt hit. i can stand in a pack of 30 monsters and no enemy gets hit for like 2 seconds sometimes. this even happens with bosses. Do you guys have any idea what could cause this? without the onslaught ring and like 9,2x triggerate everything is fine and smooth.
Are you capped crit and if so, does this only happen to a certain group of expedition monsters?
Are your rocking frenzy charges that you’re not aware of?
@@alluo1009 thanks for replying. yes crit cap, everything. i have basically the samish gear as subtractem in his mageblood build. its even bosses. i can cyclone though sirus for 10 second without his bar moving in his last phase. its like delay.
no frenzies no. i also think that the triggerrate is based on the client, so server lag doesnt come into play either (which is like 80 ms now).
My other guess is maybe a mana issue? Do you have a skin of the lords with a keystone that doesn't let you crit?
@@subtractem i figured it out. its a combination of boot enchant and too little reserved mana. the self inflicting projectile doesnt get cast bc the cyclone robs too much mana initially. so i need to get hit, which doesnt happen often, so i have long streaks of zero projectile casts.
thanks for the hint.
Seems reasonable, I can league start this right?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Technically, you can, since transitioning from Bane-Occultist to this is pretty smooth. You just use your 'levling'-build for a much longer time than usual xD
The only thing left is to get the shark cyclone MTX :D
How do u get that much currency lol completly wild
Can’t wait until they further balance the game around what content creators are doing. Now regular players are stuck with aegis/melding on every single build lol
Well done, insane build.
The most interesting thing is how and what you did to afford all of these rather than the build itself.
Play a lot. He probably makes a lot of money by crafting. It‘s the most profitable thing.
Plaid speed. Yes.
me watching build on which I don't and never will have
Nice job dude :)
No 21/23 gem? You can still do more 😆
How were you able to afford this build?
Wondering the same thing 😄 I have an in-between from the budget version and the Mageblood version. How do I get the next 2000 exalts in a couple of weeks pls?
@@ianfdk even with mageblood, and another 100-200 ex it still can't reach anywhere near this i think
@@JunCroccifixioWayne his chest alone is around 200ex, the pc onslought ring another 150 or more the skean idk 300ex? and that crown is probably a mirror if not more even among the top dps guys i´ve seen only 1 like that
offstream things, magic happens. cutedog style
play da game
lol i did one flawless chayula this league (which i dropped from the only feared i did solo this league) and dropped the fractured defences chest to then first try put it on a vaal regalia
anyways ggs insane build
Take it delving?
I took it to 600. It's very good at delving.
I took a very extensive break from POE but what class is this and how long did it take for you to take this build this far?
it's occultist forbidden rite coc. it's defo at least 2+ mirrors, prolly more like 3-5 i imagine
so it's about as strong as a 200 ex skelly mage build
Insane build yo
I just start poe have no idea or understand anything described here
What Class is that??
Occultist. This build has gone on to be very popular for the past year.
I really love this build with the exception of damn ignite and bleed. I only die to those mods. It is frustrating.
I thought u can craft those on your flasks?
@@blech71 Not when using Mageblood. You need very specific mods on the flasks to make the built work well.
bleed shouldn't be an issue with corrupted blood immunity and the minor pantheon, ignite on the other hand... can get kinda sketchy so I might try to get that avoidance on my jewels like subtractem has
@@johnoneill3585 Bleed flask works on mageblood wdym.
@@nunyabidness9765 You need very specific flasks that do not include bleed options (reduced mana, armour, speed, etc.). I guess I could change one, but I am not sure how that will work. I am looking for jewels with reduced ignite.
"Nothing necessary or recommended". Joke's on you because I can't understand those words and neither can the average POE player.
Ape brain wants strong and wants it now.
very nice build, I can certainly dream it, lol
me playing my league start skeles without the right helm enchant and not using the mirror helm XD
My men its impressive what you craft for pushing the build to extreme. I WISH I have the amount of time you spend playing in this game. Im a family 2 daughters dad guy with full time work. So I only play in some of my free time that are not real much. I Real like this game very much so I want ask if You can make a build that can be real strong in dps and in defences but easy to make it for a casual player like me? Thanks my men and have a great time.
Just convert your real money into fake money. Best of both worlds.
i will try this build looks great... nvm its to expensive! so F expensive!
Is that str stack replica Alberon occultism? Yeah its insane. Clear screens with leap slam alone lol
its not. its cast on crit ocultist.
May I have it once the league ends? I only play on standard and always wanted to have an immortal build
if not full t1 bis items its a budget build
nice anyway
How dare u drop an eye on a video and not ID it
It was bad. Very bad
Nice balance GGG. Witch dominate in every league.
oh a mageblood and ashes of the stars, no way this build is trong, unbelievable
Its a sick build showcase, thanks for sharing but please stop saying "on a budget" when were talking about mageblood global defence vaal regalia build.
"I spent more on my Two-Stone ring than you made in the last three leagues"
5ex version POB? 🤣
Just stare at the resurrect at town screen, it sums up the budget version
gg
yes
Poggies
Hello there
when you quit the league can i have all your shit?
nothing is to strong, if you complain dont play it make a weak build stop saying its to OP, all diss nerfs bc of people like you
What 😂😂😂