I was originally a bit leery of Lighter, because Stunners aren't that valuable in the Anomaly meta (they're actually not bad on any Anomaly agent other than Jane). But his kit and skills have sold me on the genius of his design. He addresses the problem of the Attack DPS meta, in that Stunners were stealing on-field time from Attack agents because the Stun Damage Multiplier was needed for them to shine (this is especially true with Zhu Yuan and Ellen). Turning him into an Off-Field/Burst Stunner was genius, now you're helping both Lighter and your Attack/Anomaly unit by staying on field with your DPS.
I pulled him without having any teams to pair him with (i liked his story too much and i'm a huge fan of Hajime no Ippo), but at least i won 50/50 with 40 pulls and now i will copium with Miyabi/Lighter/Lucy :)
I feel like Lighter is in an unfortunate position right now. I wish he didn't have these awkward restrictions. To get the most out of him you'd have to pair him with Ellen or Soldier 11 (or future limited fire attacker). Otherwise you need another character from sons of Calydon, which makes teambuilding weird. Perhaps Burnice + Miyabi could work idk, but that's a premium team.
Lighter + Lucy + Soldier Lighter + Ellen + Soukaku. Lighter + Ellen + Rina. That's basically the only functional teams he has rn that don't include Burnice as a main dps.
Personally i think you want to run the rotation as Burnice/yanagi/lighter. Burnice does scorch, yanagi parries in building energy and shocking enemies, Lighter should then have capped morale allowing for stun combo into chain atk. Then re nitro fuel burnice, finish yanagi disorder spam while enemies stunned.
Would that stop any mad lads to make him main dps? Just put Lucy and Burnice as support for his atk. Not optimal but something that can be experimented on.
@@lukeamparo6586 oh don't get me wrong I'll still try to make him a stunner DPS hybrid but it's not gonna be as strong as Ellen let's say while sacrificing some stun potential
@@acetheseventh_ You can make him a dps and its viable because nobody gives a damn about shiyu defense (except ambush node) as a respectable endgame content. Simulated battle tower and hollow zero are the better endgame contents where you can test out not just standard team comps and builds but also unique ones.
If I wouldn't want Miyabi and her Engine, I definitely would've gotten him. For the first limited 5 Star, they definitely made a really cool character.
I wonder how much damage I can make Lighter do with Caesar and Burnice or Nicole😄I'm still working out which drive disc I will use but I will be using "The Restrained" for a W-Engine.😊
At first, i planned to pass Lighter, but in the end i got it... Lighter is not a BAIT, he's an OPTION... if you want to make strong fire team, pull him. Dont have to pull the engine (especially Miyabi is coming) , just use the Koleda's (if you have) or the A rank. it work well. Using Lighter is all about play method. With him around Soldier 11 become even stronger, with Lucy as support fire team SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER... If you NEED HIM, pull, if you dont play fire team or need another stunner, SKIP.
Just as I thought. Not worth if you already have either Koleda or Lycaon decently built. I'm skipping him since his time to shine could be way later in the future, so I'll wait for possible re-run. I'd love to see some testing of Lighter's W-Engine on Lycaon. Slow stacking but surely manageable as the timer resets on stack.
Is there any video that would tell you how much of an elemental bonus can you get from him if you won't pull for his weapon? Every video assumes that you will get his weapon, which is not true for so many players.
I got no S-class stun, no abnormal dealers, and Soldier 11, Grace, Zhu Yuan, Neko is my dealer (have Caesar). Should I go for lighter or wait until Miyabi and her engine?
you could make a soldier 11 team with lighter which would work quite well with caesar as well. you won't be able to do much with miyabi if your only anomaly agent is grace, miyabi really wants either burnice or yanagi. you could also use lighter in a pinch as a replacement for anby in a zhu yuan team, since his stunning capabilities are much better.
Personally for Disk Drive I disagree entirely. Shockstar is definitely your best bet because is morale punches are linked with his basic attacks so you will get value out of using them. All the other one are just too situation to be used outside of one team synergy. Then for 2 piece go Inferno metal, or hormone punk. They’re not a lot of disk drives that work well with him but I feel like 4-piece shockstar, 2-piece Inferno is your best bet
Tbh it all comes down to preference. If u wanna dish out alot of dmg for your DPS. Is gonna be ProtoPunk. If u wanna daze fast, is Shockstar. But pick whichever u have the best substats. I personally have shit luck for Shockstar, but pretty good rolls on Protopunk. So i choose protopunk
Nah, Protopunk all the way. Literally 15% damage for all allies just for pressing space when a yellow line flashes on screen. I find his EX special and Def assist does much more daze than his Morale ora ora attack
I prefer Soldier 11, Lighter, Lucy over Caesar. Unless you're doing Tower or need the tankiness, Lucy buffs + helping with burn anomaly for Inferno Metal uptime is really nice. Mono fire is just so good for Soldier 11.
Actually Lycaons' sig is more optimal on lighter since he can easily max stack the wengines' s daze buffs. Meanwhile Lighter's Wengine is also optimal for lighter.
@@lorenzojevaz2644 I get lighter cuz im hyped for his video kekw and I can tell if anyone wonder Lighter+soukaku for better dmg for ellen lighter+lycaon more fun fast play but if you f2p and waiting for miyabi and wonder if lighter worth pulling if you already have lycaon answer is no there is not a big different between lycaon+soukaku vs lighter soukaku so for f2p and miyabi wanters with lycaon can skip easy but if ur have enough wish I think lighter is good for account cuz you can use him for fire and ice teams for miyabi ellen s11 burnice etc. deffinetly worth pulling for me I'll stick to Ellen lighter lycaon I dont want that + dmg from soukaku cuz her flag animation and buff asisting is annoys me
I have Lycoan and Koleda rn for my Ellen/S11 plus Caesar supp for my Ice/Fire comp rn so... As much as id love to pull him for his drip, Its just not worth it for my account 😭 id prolly just save for miyabi
Think im just gonna drop 30 pulls on him. If i get him ill be so happy because my acc will finally have another stuner that isn't Anby and if I dont ill still be building pity for Miyabi and if I loose the 50/50 ill get Miyabi guaranteed. Im skipping his w engine though
This is. For the people that are pulling miyabi skip he is no good for her at the moment😢 Edit:: if u have Ellen or fire girl 11 it's a good investment 😊
Pulling. Who cares about a Miyabi, Ellen, or S11. He’s the hottest character they’ve ever released *not biased btw*
Me pulling for this guy for my DPS Ben xD (plus he's chill and goofy)
Im invested in what you did for ben?
Sameee. Big pp damage ben.
I was originally a bit leery of Lighter, because Stunners aren't that valuable in the Anomaly meta (they're actually not bad on any Anomaly agent other than Jane). But his kit and skills have sold me on the genius of his design. He addresses the problem of the Attack DPS meta, in that Stunners were stealing on-field time from Attack agents because the Stun Damage Multiplier was needed for them to shine (this is especially true with Zhu Yuan and Ellen). Turning him into an Off-Field/Burst Stunner was genius, now you're helping both Lighter and your Attack/Anomaly unit by staying on field with your DPS.
I got both lighter and his w engine. I'm happy now
I pulled him without having any teams to pair him with (i liked his story too much and i'm a huge fan of Hajime no Ippo), but at least i won 50/50 with 40 pulls and now i will copium with Miyabi/Lighter/Lucy :)
I feel like Lighter is in an unfortunate position right now. I wish he didn't have these awkward restrictions. To get the most out of him you'd have to pair him with Ellen or Soldier 11 (or future limited fire attacker). Otherwise you need another character from sons of Calydon, which makes teambuilding weird. Perhaps Burnice + Miyabi could work idk, but that's a premium team.
Burnice + Miyabi doesn't work atm because Miyabi needs support or faction for core, hope they change this
Yeah that's forked then.
Lighter + Lucy + Soldier
Lighter + Ellen + Soukaku.
Lighter + Ellen + Rina.
That's basically the only functional teams he has rn that don't include Burnice as a main dps.
Personally i think you want to run the rotation as Burnice/yanagi/lighter.
Burnice does scorch, yanagi parries in building energy and shocking enemies, Lighter should then have capped morale allowing for stun combo into chain atk. Then re nitro fuel burnice, finish yanagi disorder spam while enemies stunned.
his attacks looks so cool, i would like him to be a dps, shame
Is anyone else a bit bummed out that he isn't an attacker?
Would that stop any mad lads to make him main dps?
Just put Lucy and Burnice as support for his atk. Not optimal but something that can be experimented on.
A little
That would've disregard the support he's giving which would downgrade his usability
@@lukeamparo6586 oh don't get me wrong I'll still try to make him a stunner DPS hybrid but it's not gonna be as strong as Ellen let's say while sacrificing some stun potential
@@acetheseventh_ You can make him a dps and its viable because nobody gives a damn about shiyu defense (except ambush node) as a respectable endgame content. Simulated battle tower and hollow zero are the better endgame contents where you can test out not just standard team comps and builds but also unique ones.
If I wouldn't want Miyabi and her Engine, I definitely would've gotten him.
For the first limited 5 Star, they definitely made a really cool character.
i hope s11 powercreep is a human half robot with fire shooter (like billy but fire), must be cool side to side with my lighter.. lol
You cooked with fire Billy
Scratch that, give us a fire S rank Billy NOW 🔥
I wonder how much damage I can make Lighter do with Caesar and Burnice or Nicole😄I'm still working out which drive disc I will use but I will be using "The Restrained" for a W-Engine.😊
I had the most fun using Burnice, Lighter and Lucy together. Their fire dmg output is insane
@ Cool! I’ll try that out!😄
At first, i planned to pass Lighter, but in the end i got it... Lighter is not a BAIT, he's an OPTION... if you want to make strong fire team, pull him. Dont have to pull the engine (especially Miyabi is coming) , just use the Koleda's (if you have) or the A rank. it work well. Using Lighter is all about play method. With him around Soldier 11 become even stronger, with Lucy as support fire team SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER... If you NEED HIM, pull, if you dont play fire team or need another stunner, SKIP.
Just as I thought. Not worth if you already have either Koleda or Lycaon decently built. I'm skipping him since his time to shine could be way later in the future, so I'll wait for possible re-run.
I'd love to see some testing of Lighter's W-Engine on Lycaon. Slow stacking but surely manageable as the timer resets on stack.
Is there any video that would tell you how much of an elemental bonus can you get from him if you won't pull for his weapon? Every video assumes that you will get his weapon, which is not true for so many players.
Finally someone mentions Lighter with Burnice/yanagi.
I got no S-class stun, no abnormal dealers, and Soldier 11, Grace, Zhu Yuan, Neko is my dealer (have Caesar). Should I go for lighter or wait until Miyabi and her engine?
you could make a soldier 11 team with lighter which would work quite well with caesar as well. you won't be able to do much with miyabi if your only anomaly agent is grace, miyabi really wants either burnice or yanagi. you could also use lighter in a pinch as a replacement for anby in a zhu yuan team, since his stunning capabilities are much better.
Personally for Disk Drive I disagree entirely. Shockstar is definitely your best bet because is morale punches are linked with his basic attacks so you will get value out of using them. All the other one are just too situation to be used outside of one team synergy. Then for 2 piece go Inferno metal, or hormone punk. They’re not a lot of disk drives that work well with him but I feel like 4-piece shockstar, 2-piece Inferno is your best bet
Tbh it all comes down to preference. If u wanna dish out alot of dmg for your DPS. Is gonna be ProtoPunk. If u wanna daze fast, is Shockstar.
But pick whichever u have the best substats. I personally have shit luck for Shockstar, but pretty good rolls on Protopunk. So i choose protopunk
Nah, Protopunk all the way. Literally 15% damage for all allies just for pressing space when a yellow line flashes on screen. I find his EX special and Def assist does much more daze than his Morale ora ora attack
I got soldier 11 and i tried getting lighter and i got him in 30 pulls so might aswell build him hahahaha
I prefer Soldier 11, Lighter, Lucy over Caesar. Unless you're doing Tower or need the tankiness, Lucy buffs + helping with burn anomaly for Inferno Metal uptime is really nice. Mono fire is just so good for Soldier 11.
And a Team with Billy ? Does Ligther has any interaction with Billy ?
I just wish he was an overall elemental buffer, not just ice and fire. Other than that though I've been having a blast with him
How good is he compared to Ceasar? I didn't manage to get her and i need a good stunner/buffer. Should i go for him or wait for Ceasar's rerun?
Cesar is wayyyyy better than
Simple. If you have Ellen/S11, pull. If not, don't pull
all fine at start by i lost it when basic attacks start XD
Hes fun gotta get some cast to go with him
Lost 50/50 on Yanagi and I also want to get the whole Sons of Calidon faction so yea
Is blazing Laurel good on other Stun character besides Lighter?
Put it on Lighter.
@beatricesaporito3698 besides Lighter.
Maybe lighter's sig on Lycaon? Idk
I have been wondering the same thing
@smellyfishking7313 20 stacks is a lot for Lycaon tho
Actually Lycaons' sig is more optimal on lighter since he can easily max stack the wengines' s daze buffs. Meanwhile Lighter's Wengine is also optimal for lighter.
so id I have Lycaon already is he better than lycaon for ellen? or maybe skil lighter but get his w engine for lycaon?
Maybe try both Lyacon and Lighter on tje same team, see if it works
@@lorenzojevaz2644 I get lighter cuz im hyped for his video kekw and I can tell if anyone wonder Lighter+soukaku for better dmg for ellen lighter+lycaon more fun fast play but if you f2p and waiting for miyabi and wonder if lighter worth pulling if you already have lycaon answer is no there is not a big different between lycaon+soukaku vs lighter soukaku so for f2p and miyabi wanters with lycaon can skip easy but if ur have enough wish I think lighter is good for account cuz you can use him for fire and ice teams for miyabi ellen s11 burnice etc. deffinetly worth pulling for me I'll stick to Ellen lighter lycaon I dont want that + dmg from soukaku cuz her flag animation and buff asisting is annoys me
@@bahriceylan5199 I WON THE 50 50
Lycaon Lighter is better than Soukaku Lighter imo.
@@MrcreeperDXD777 I tried it faster clear time with soukaku lighter but lighter lycaon is more fun to play
What is sidestep dodge?
Wait, his M1 got hot fixed live? making the stun extension actually 8 seconds? Duuude my wallet
Is he gonna be good for Miyabi?
no
I have Lycoan and Koleda rn for my Ellen/S11 plus Caesar supp for my Ice/Fire comp rn so...
As much as id love to pull him for his drip, Its just not worth it for my account 😭 id prolly just save for miyabi
well i took the bait and i got him in 7 pulls (single pull) -w-, it was meant to be
Think im just gonna drop 30 pulls on him. If i get him ill be so happy because my acc will finally have another stuner that isn't Anby and if I dont ill still be building pity for Miyabi and if I loose the 50/50 ill get Miyabi guaranteed. Im skipping his w engine though
Is inferno metal fine on Lighter too?
Inferno Metal is fine too if you are planning to run him in a Mono Fire team
Shockstar disco the classic@@primecoconut4204
@@primecoconut4204 oh ok tysm!
I am a bit skeptical of pulling him cause i am waiting for both Miyabi and Harumasa( and the rumored ellen rerun) and their Signature W-engines
zyox?
Still skip him because the pulls are not infinite(
zzz
What a shame...
Ez skip, Anby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flopter
This is.
For the people that are pulling miyabi skip he is no good for her at the moment😢
Edit:: if u have Ellen or fire girl 11 it's a good investment 😊
Miyabi requires disorders to get buffs. Yanagi is the perfect duo. Lighter however cant synergize with Miyabi