Both are great. One thing to note though is that while Ayato’s E already ended, Neuvillette can actually do 2 more CAs on top of what is shown since there are still 6 orbs on the floor
@@Oliverph0enixthat's cause Neuvillette doesn't really have any buffers to him via max Hp or outside Kazuha, and Yelan would just be sitting in the background doing nothing with her dice
Got them both and i would say neuvi is better at damage as for ayato he is better at utility. Although for mobile players like me ayato might feel better to handle (not at all a reason to stop pulling neuvi, just a comfort thing)
Yeah I regret pulling for Neuvi he is not very comfortable to play on mobile and I play mostly on mobile. On Pc he is really comfy but I dont reccomend him for mobile only players unnless they really like his playstyle.
Yeah I don't own a pc so I have to play on mobile and tbh... I'm kinda underwhelmed for that reason. I have trouble using his charged atk but perhaps I'll learn to control it.
I relate to this on a high level as a mobile player. Ayato feels convenient to use unlike neuv which is uncomfortable at times due to his ca not hitting enemies which causes to reduce the full potential of his dmg output
They are both great and amazing, have them both and they both have a good build but as for Ayato I use him as a support more than DPS his ulti really good for freezing with Ganyu ulti or Ayaka
I have got C6R1 Neuvillette. He literally obliterates everything in secs. Will definitely R5 him in the next run. Too OP. Dragon Sovereign is no joke. 😂
Neuvillette is better than Ayato. There's no need to get offended by reality, lol. Accept it just like I accept that Hu Tao is better than Diluc 🤧 Neuvi is a dragon, so it makes sense. That doesn't make Ayato useless. He is just as useful
neuvillette is the winner for me. I used to be an Ayato main and I used 4pc shimenawa with 59/205 cr ratio and each tick was around 10-11k (talents 3, 10, 8) I used the same pcs on neuvilette and not only the cr ratio was greater but each charged atk was around 20k raw (talents 7, 5, 6)
@@stargameryt7433 I pulled Ayato during 4.2 when he reruns because I accidentally got his weapon in 2.6 while I'm pulling for venti's weapon lol. and how I just pulled Neuvillette's C1. I love them both 😁
If you used the skill only Neuvillette's run would've been faster However neuvillette can still keep using 2 more charged attacks than ayato's single skill. Neuvillette's clears
@@momslayer456 no arguments = fanboy, my arguments to end this gonna be simple mmojack posted a video comparing damage output of alot of c6 characters in there, has c6 neuvilete and a c0 ayato showcase go in there and see. If after seeing a ayato c0 finishing with almost the same time as a neuvilet c6 doesnt open u eyes than nothing will.
They are both very strong, if you have good artifacts and a 5 star sword there will not be a significant difference between them. Ayato is still an S-rated character too.
This boss doesn't do it justice, if any boss had very very high hp, neuvillete could keep the dps going while ayato needs to set up every time. On waves of monsters neuvillete might be able to clear faster but then again, genshin doesn't have content that requires this much dps.
Neuvillette is definitely better. Taking into account 1. Ayato had already started slashing and was already halfway in before the hydro archon started attacking yet they killed at the same time. 2. The hydro archon have 2 more deadly canon of doom ready to be used even after his first shot ends.
This ayato isnt even good enough only reaching 36k with freedom sworn, but both are good depends on the user preference but i take ayato because i like his sword shing shing shing 🤣
i dont think theres even a need to compare these two, dont forget neuvi can shoot 2 more times in one cycle while ayato need to cycle through all the supports again before next E
I'd say virgil because of the more teams that you can use him with, and also, hydro dragon is pretty boring tbh because all you do is e, q, charged :| but that's my opinion don't crucify me.
Yea but unlike other CA chars, his is a washing machine. And smth abt putting enemies thru a washer and them disappearing afterwards just gives a good dopamine hit 😆
I love Ayato but people say he's boring too because in his E skill he's locked in place, even more than Neuv if we're being honest. My advice for people: Pull for Neuv if your favourite anime is DBZ or Ayato if you're a fan of Demon Slayer. I'm both. 😭
@@EdwinCelestial right choice tbh😅 I pulled for him and he is literally amazing one of the best dps characters but just like you said after 2 days i got bored with his play style
Та не забей, Невилетт и шанса Аято не оставляет, Нева полностью оправдывает звания гидро дракона ткк на данный момент это просто сильнейший персонаж не только гидро стихии но и впринципе, слегка потягаться с ним может разве что Елань с6 и Фурина c6 и то только на соло таргетах.😅
I have Ayato’s signature weapon and his Artifacts but I still don’t want him. Reason being I am tired of farming nobushi after raising Ayaka her weapon and Ayato’s weapon. I can’t do it anymore…. I can do exploration and building for Neuvillette since it’s a new region. Also I have to press lesser buttons than Ayato to do same damage. Playing day after day you don’t know the comfort you get by pressing lesser buttons. Also I have a 12000 DPI mouse I got for 20 dollars so no issues there. But I’m not doing Neuvillette 360 spin as I get nauseous.
mona is not really a good fit for neuvillete in abyss, unless is bosses because her debuffs is just likes 6 sec more like a showcase damage perscreenshoot only
Ayato is better. Genshin impact is a game that rewards multiple reactions. Ayato can be used in national and dendro teams. He also have off field presence. Neu not working properly with kazuha and bennet will turn into a demerit sooner than you think.
@@vukkicos5688 no he doesn't work properly with kazuha. Neuvillete is a character that wants long field time. Kazuha's dmg% buffs and res shred do not last that long. That's the reason why furina provides dmg% for long duration. It's for units like neuvillete.
@@akashsingh-wb1re Kazuha's dmg% buff can be applied off-field, meaning that he provides damage bonus for about 16s. VV res shred cant, meaning that it last for 8 deconds after swirl. Most of Neuvillete's damage can be compressed into 9-10s window due to nature of his kit, meaning that he can use Kazuha's buffs to almost a full extent. Meanwhile, Ayato needs to have his burst up all the time in order for Kazuha to be able to swirl Hydro, which more often than not makes rotations quite weird unless you have another hydro unit in the team.
@@vukkicos5688 i wouldn't call 1-2 seconds of vv shread as good character synergy. Realistically you'll use kazuha skill after his ult to align mobs meaning low vv duration. You might even need to use kaz hold skill for more spread out mobs meaning even lower vv duration. Now you might need to use xiangling pyronado. Thus taking time to switch characters and casting ult meaning even lower vv duration. Lastly kazuha's whole sellpoint is vv shread and double swirl. So if you're not using neu with a reaction unit with high dps like xl and not utilizing kaz vv shread then it's better to use kaz with someone else.
Neuvillette not working well with kazuha would be a big demerit..... lmao dude, no, he's been destroying bosses not immune to hydro on his own, do you think he even needs it? Besides, even without the abyss blessing, with furina around he would still be destroying abyss mobs not immune to hydro lol
You can't compare a character when using different teams. Either do it with the same team or just the character alone to measure the "raw" damage. These kind of videos are really useless.
@@_Nyxus_ Nope if nuevi is c6 you would see a blue ball dropping and 2 more hits in his charged attack but that didnt happened so i guess its c0 but idk about ayato
Both are great. One thing to note though is that while Ayato’s E already ended, Neuvillette can actually do 2 more CAs on top of what is shown since there are still 6 orbs on the floor
When ayato's E end you need to recycle your buff so it's should be ready again
@@reinatersexpect you don't need to recycle it with neuvilette and he does more damage
Yeah, he probably didnt even need the buffs, tbh.
@@Oliverph0enixthat's cause Neuvillette doesn't really have any buffers to him via max Hp or outside Kazuha, and Yelan would just be sitting in the background doing nothing with her dice
Ayato taser With tf can have infinite E
Both great
One scale on your mouse dpi
One scale on your device fps
😂
Device accurate comment
Lol
Ayato is still S tier for Mobile players with that Boba tea and sword hits.
Someone got the point cuz I feel like mobile players will get annoyed by spinning his cannon
@@Levi-ly2rf I’m mobile player but that’s nothing to annoyed
@@AprilRain204 later i said
Hes mainly ranked S to A tier while Neuvillette is just SS
@@res6148Both are at the top of the list, with no Cons? Neuvillete. With c6? Ayato.
Got them both and i would say neuvi is better at damage as for ayato he is better at utility.
Although for mobile players like me ayato might feel better to handle (not at all a reason to stop pulling neuvi, just a comfort thing)
Yeah I regret pulling for Neuvi he is not very comfortable to play on mobile and I play mostly on mobile. On Pc he is really comfy but I dont reccomend him for mobile only players unnless they really like his playstyle.
Yeah I don't own a pc so I have to play on mobile and tbh... I'm kinda underwhelmed for that reason. I have trouble using his charged atk but perhaps I'll learn to control it.
I relate to this on a high level as a mobile player. Ayato feels convenient to use unlike neuv which is uncomfortable at times due to his ca not hitting enemies which causes to reduce the full potential of his dmg output
Nah I play on mobile, And it's like I am playing a shooter game when using Nuevillete
@@OrRaino Yeah u kinda get used to it but it is not as fun and easy as on pc due to the controls imo.
They are both great and amazing, have them both and they both have a good build but as for Ayato I use him as a support more than DPS his ulti really good for freezing with Ganyu ulti or Ayaka
Dang. Thought the difference would be greater .
The set up was the difference longer animations time on neuv team and he still ended around the same time side by side
You need to remember that he can do charged attack again right after from the ult droplets
@@rs2527I mean ayato is a pretty consistent dps too
Neuv did not need all those supports. If you just use him alone he would finish the same time as Ayato
Also no hp buffer as of now
The point is, there are way too many great hydro units compared to all other elements.
True but 2 dendro characters can clap them all 😂
@@takitako679 Neuvillette > Al Haitham
Furina > Nahida
Cope
@@takitako679 Imagine needing electro to deal damage
@@justsomeguywithoutabeard8306 ok Mr. Elitist
Got Neuvillete, but my dream is a C6 Ayato
I got C6 ayato, I am kinda regret pulling C6 ayato instead of neuvillette😢
@@錄音純 Ayato it's my main goal, but hope you can get Neuvillete soon...I got him in a 10 pull
I have got C6R1 Neuvillette. He literally obliterates everything in secs. Will definitely R5 him in the next run. Too OP. Dragon Sovereign is no joke. 😂
@@junyuchoo3571 How much did it cost you to get him to C6??
@@錄音純 I have c6 ayato and c6 neuv and gotta say c6 neuv is way better 😅
u didn't have to ult on neuvi's part
1 e+charge attack was enough to kill him
Neuvillette is better than Ayato. There's no need to get offended by reality, lol. Accept it just like I accept that Hu Tao is better than Diluc 🤧 Neuvi is a dragon, so it makes sense. That doesn't make Ayato useless. He is just as useful
Comparing hutao and diluc is not fair
neuvillette is the winner for me. I used to be an Ayato main and I used 4pc shimenawa with 59/205 cr ratio and each tick was around 10-11k (talents 3, 10, 8) I used the same pcs on neuvilette and not only the cr ratio was greater but each charged atk was around 20k raw (talents 7, 5, 6)
But ayato is more flexible. I skiped nav for ayato because of that.
@@saudmubarak1542terrible choice, ayato is the weakest hydro five star
Can ayato solo in abyess without support lol
@@Nggiigi88-556 not everyone's a whale like u
Bro what the f u mean my prototype amber neuvillate cleared in 2 minutes so what is whale dam ur neuvillate build will be trash 🗑️ lol
Shing Shing Ayato With High speed Shing Shing is the best Ayato 🩵
Примерно одинакого, но стоит помнить что многие называют гемплей Нёвилетта скучным
If only ayato can do max dmg with less hit but they both same ty for the delay
I don't care, I have Neuvillette but I will still pull for Ayato in his rerun.
Same lol- idc about comments arguing abt who is better, i will pull for both(already have Neuvillette, guaranteed for Ayato)
Same, my first 5 star was neuvi and my only other limited 5 star is furina, i still pulled for ayato and got him at only 52 pity
I have c0r1 ayato and nevullete 😅
@@stargameryt7433 I pulled Ayato during 4.2 when he reruns because I accidentally got his weapon in 2.6 while I'm pulling for venti's weapon lol. and how I just pulled Neuvillette's C1. I love them both 😁
Both good.
neuvi is best bc he doesn’t need other characters to beat abyss
Water slash vs Hydropump
If you used the skill only
Neuvillette's run would've been faster
However neuvillette can still keep using 2 more charged attacks than ayato's single skill.
Neuvillette's clears
Taser With tf for ayato = infinite E
@@lesathdarcknologia still worse
Not if have alot of mobs.
@@lesathdarcknologia neuvillette > ayato
Imo
@@momslayer456 no arguments = fanboy, my arguments to end this gonna be simple mmojack posted a video comparing damage output of alot of c6 characters in there, has c6 neuvilete and a c0 ayato showcase go in there and see. If after seeing a ayato c0 finishing with almost the same time as a neuvilet c6 doesnt open u eyes than nothing will.
They are both very strong, if you have good artifacts and a 5 star sword there will not be a significant difference between them. Ayato is still an S-rated character too.
Hahah
Ayato got power creep 😊
Damn bro that's some good stuff u smoking u mind sharing
nuevellete does twice the damage as ayato but he needs less 6 extra seconds than ayato needs to do all his damage . ayato is so bad in comparison
@@venupewer4882ayato is still good
I got both so, I have no worries.
Neuvilette is so strong but I like Ayato better because he is user friendly. just spam them right click instead charge attack
How is Neuvillette's gameplay, which is moving your mouse left to right, not user-friendly the same way as repeatedly spamming right click?
@@zoñanithey could be playing mobile
I got Neuvillette and Ayato
Neuvillette is so fun with raiden zhongli and kokomi.
you should use same team composition to do justice. mona buff damage when yunjin only speed buff.
But ayato has bennett still fair enough
Still ayato fav❤
In conclusion: Hydro DPS 🔛🔝
This boss doesn't do it justice, if any boss had very very high hp, neuvillete could keep the dps going while ayato needs to set up every time.
On waves of monsters neuvillete might be able to clear faster but then again, genshin doesn't have content that requires this much dps.
Me who plays Neuvillette in PC and Ayato in Mobile 😂😂
Neuvillette is definitely better. Taking into account
1. Ayato had already started slashing and was already halfway in before the hydro archon started attacking yet they killed at the same time.
2. The hydro archon have 2 more deadly canon of doom ready to be used even after his first shot ends.
Dps role go to Neuvillete for sure Ayato is more Jack of all trade
This ayato isnt even good enough only reaching 36k with freedom sworn, but both are good depends on the user preference but i take ayato because i like his sword shing shing shing 🤣
@@dingdongabnormal8417 me too I use him as a main dps and sometime swap to enabler he’s so flexible
I would say neuville because his elemental attacks are effective and his beam too
i dont think theres even a need to compare these two, dont forget neuvi can shoot 2 more times in one cycle while ayato need to cycle through all the supports again before next E
compare wanderer hypercarry with c6 faruzan and Nuevillete
That wouldnt be fair
@@Filip-ei7ux for Wanderer
@@AdrianoSennin for neuvillete bc of c6 faruzan bro
@@Filip-ei7uxyea its really unfair, at least compare him when furina comes out
@@adrianpaul6159 yes
retrospect post furina is 20/20, neuvillette is currently the most powerful hypercarry in the game by leaps and bounds
For now Ayato is better for me because I still lack some suitable artifacts for my Neuvillete
Hydro have ayato, yelan, and now neuvi.. dayum hoyo loves Hydro like A LOT
Honestly, Ayato isn't even near Neuvi and Yelan's league
I'd say virgil because of the more teams that you can use him with, and also, hydro dragon is pretty boring tbh because all you do is e, q, charged :| but that's my opinion don't crucify me.
Yea but unlike other CA chars, his is a washing machine. And smth abt putting enemies thru a washer and them disappearing afterwards just gives a good dopamine hit 😆
I love Ayato but people say he's boring too because in his E skill he's locked in place, even more than Neuv if we're being honest.
My advice for people: Pull for Neuv if your favourite anime is DBZ or Ayato if you're a fan of Demon Slayer. I'm both. 😭
Even comparing raw damage, C6 ayato does way more burst damage than c6 Neuvillette.
He looked cool, but he reminded me of ganyu, so I felt like I would be soon bored of his gamestyle.
@@EdwinCelestial right choice tbh😅 I pulled for him and he is literally amazing one of the best dps characters but just like you said after 2 days i got bored with his play style
Свет в глазах Невелетта 🗿🍷🥶🥶🥶🥶💪💪💪
The Pokemon vs the evolved pokemon
I was stypid trying to pull 4 star characters from ayato panner , if only i used raide panner
Legends use Neuvi. (waiting for his rerun)
Both are great but Neuvilette team composed of all 5 ⭐ character
While ayato have 2 , 4 ⭐ character
the good thingis that i dont have to choose because have both, and also tartalia
Та не забей, Невилетт и шанса Аято не оставляет, Нева полностью оправдывает звания гидро дракона ткк на данный момент это просто сильнейший персонаж не только гидро стихии но и впринципе, слегка потягаться с ним может разве что Елань с6 и Фурина c6 и то только на соло таргетах.😅
I have neuvi but pulling for ayato and ayaka cuz they are just fun i dont care that i have ganyu and neuvi ayato and ayaka are fun
I still prefer Ayato
Me 2
Yes he does have more teams btw I have Neuvillette too
ayato main here😊 he is the best for me
Ayato c0r1 65k/hit with yunjin
I just killed ayato in my account, after taked neuvillete c0r1. Neuvillete is very. VERY BETTER
No buffs. Raw damage please.
Aqua cutter vs water spout
Their damage is close, but ayato lacks mobility and sustainability, as well as range. He also can’t self-sustain nor can he face-tank.
Both of them are good but Neuvillete is more damage than ayato so yeah
Ayto super 😍😍😍😍😍😍
หล่อทั้งคู่อร้ายยยยยยยยย😊
I have Ayato’s signature weapon and his Artifacts but I still don’t want him. Reason being I am tired of farming nobushi after raising Ayaka her weapon and Ayato’s weapon. I can’t do it anymore…. I can do exploration and building for Neuvillette since it’s a new region. Also I have to press lesser buttons than Ayato to do same damage. Playing day after day you don’t know the comfort you get by pressing lesser buttons. Also I have a 12000 DPI mouse I got for 20 dollars so no issues there. But I’m not doing Neuvillette 360 spin as I get nauseous.
You do realize that you can just hold the attack button and Ayato will keep attacking during his skill duration, right?
Aunque neubillett sea un pelo mas fuerte mesegira gustando ayato ❤ para mi tartaglia y ayato seran los mas fuertes del genchin ❤
I have both of them ❤
Yelan crying in a corner
Neuvillette is more Op ihave them both.
althougj Ayato has Edge on Attack Spd
Show stats of Both pls
I'm not taking the bait. Furina is my endgame. Archon before bros. 😱
Furina sadly needs her c6 if you want to play her as on field dps
@@ryangarde6422 Not supposed to be on field DPS anyways
Neuv lacking off field presence and maneuverability are the only things I don’t like about him
He is pretty agile though even charging his ca lol, the only thing he really lacks is an off field presence, thats it
why does an on field dps need off field utility anyway? if you off field presence just go for yelan she so much better than ayato
@@venddzer3037 Because Yelan is single target only
Bro mona gives a huge buff to damage
Беннет и Юнь Цзинь тоже
Yunjin buff Ayato speed and Bennett buff atk too Bro~
both sides are using their best team for personal dmg output
If u complaining about Mona in neuvillette team what about Bennet and yunjin for ayato . R u for reaal broo😂
And mona buff lasts only 4s and have to wait 9s to rotate again keeping Neuvi behind Ayato later on (if the mob has a bunch of HP)
Ayato fell off😂
Neuvillete best hydro dps fr
childe
Zzz
Neuv's best support 😊
+1 na talent slave for Neuvillette, agree
Ayato c0r1 55k/hit
May i know the character stats and weapon
mona is not really a good fit for neuvillete in abyss, unless is bosses because her debuffs is just likes 6 sec
more like a showcase damage perscreenshoot only
really mona
the animation time consumption bruh
neuvilette is OP
Ayato is better. Genshin impact is a game that rewards multiple reactions. Ayato can be used in national and dendro teams. He also have off field presence. Neu not working properly with kazuha and bennet will turn into a demerit sooner than you think.
Neuvi works with Kazuha tho, wtf u on about?
Also, not needing Bennett is a big + because it allows you for easier team building in abyss.
@@vukkicos5688 no he doesn't work properly with kazuha. Neuvillete is a character that wants long field time. Kazuha's dmg% buffs and res shred do not last that long. That's the reason why furina provides dmg% for long duration. It's for units like neuvillete.
@@akashsingh-wb1re Kazuha's dmg% buff can be applied off-field, meaning that he provides damage bonus for about 16s. VV res shred cant, meaning that it last for 8 deconds after swirl.
Most of Neuvillete's damage can be compressed into 9-10s window due to nature of his kit, meaning that he can use Kazuha's buffs to almost a full extent.
Meanwhile, Ayato needs to have his burst up all the time in order for Kazuha to be able to swirl Hydro, which more often than not makes rotations quite weird unless you have another hydro unit in the team.
@@vukkicos5688 i wouldn't call 1-2 seconds of vv shread as good character synergy. Realistically you'll use kazuha skill after his ult to align mobs meaning low vv duration.
You might even need to use kaz hold skill for more spread out mobs meaning even lower vv duration.
Now you might need to use xiangling pyronado. Thus taking time to switch characters and casting ult meaning even lower vv duration.
Lastly kazuha's whole sellpoint is vv shread and double swirl. So if you're not using neu with a reaction unit with high dps like xl and not utilizing kaz vv shread then it's better to use kaz with someone else.
Neuvillette not working well with kazuha would be a big demerit..... lmao dude, no, he's been destroying bosses not immune to hydro on his own, do you think he even needs it? Besides, even without the abyss blessing, with furina around he would still be destroying abyss mobs not immune to hydro lol
You can't compare a character when using different teams. Either do it with the same team or just the character alone to measure the "raw" damage. These kind of videos are really useless.
Mona diff
Yeah and bennett and yunjin don't exist
Benneth buff is more stronger then mona. And yun jin top of that
@@saiavabel6076 Bennett won't buff hp scaling 😂
@@wahyuwirawan727youre laughing a lot for someone who didnt understand what was said
@@saiavabel6076 you're forgetting hydro resonance, mona also act as a battery
Neuvillette is also much better for a crowd of enemies
powercreep
How about Ayato without YunJin?
would be like Neuvillette without mona
@@clel45136yeah without Yun jin it would not be fair
@@clel45136, Ayato have 3 buffers, Neuvi only 2.
@@VOTETOTVOTZhongli also shred 20% resistence,he also needed the shield if Neu are c0. its fair tbh.
@@mxqrrbn_art9258, yes, but in this showcase he don't need Zhongli.
Both c0?
Doubt. Neuv be glowing still after his burst and I've only seen that in higher cons so I'm guessing c6
@@_Nyxus_that's because of his passive talent past dragonic glories, if he has full stacks he glows so he is c0
@@_Nyxus_prob c0… he glows after his 1 ca if he has stacks
@@_Nyxus_ Nope if nuevi is c6 you would see a blue ball dropping and 2 more hits in his charged attack but that didnt happened so i guess its c0 but idk about ayato
C0 = nuevillette
C6= ayato
TBH Ayatos dmg multiplier sucks
Mona😅
Childe >
Try again solo
Still neuvilette since he is using charged attack not normal attack, using him at lv80 6/6/6 goes 14k and ayato lv90 1/10/10 goes 11k
@@haris6523 maybe I am pointing exactly that? Ayato is nothing without Support, while supports for Neuvillette are purely optional.
@@Bi.Bo. yep, the gap are so huge on them
Wow
C0 Neuvillete is a lot OP than Ayato even in C6
neuvillete CA boring ahh hell
イェラン入れろ
How dare you comparing a dragon to a weak boy
Childe.
Legends use Neuvi. (waiting for his rerun)