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Fighting plagiarism is serious business. From brainchild-snatching to wholly quotables, plagiarists have plenty of wily ways to pass others' work off as their own -- and all of them are threats to original thinking. Melissa Huseman D'Annunzio imagines what would happen if a Department of Plagiarism Investigation were on the case.
Lesson by Melissa Huseman D'Annunzio, animation by Hache Rodriguez.
Plagiarism is bad? doesnt sound like an original idea to me.
ryan you made me laugh
hahaha ryan
Ryan A5 it again
Yeah, but I think if you don't intrinsically understand why it's bad, you will eventually come back to fill in that gap of knowledge after wondering about it or getting caught and reflecting over it.
Thanks man, I'm gonna take that joke.
I once got a 37% on an assignment for creative writing. I hadn't even looked for inspiration, I just started writing in my notebook during class and Turn It In found a similarity in my writing style to something that had already been published.
this video has the same energy as those anti-drug presentations that just teach you different methods people use to take drugs then just say at the end to not do it
I don't understand the concept of "self plagiarizing"
Samantha Kerr makes sense but doesn’t at the same time. My teachers tell me on the regular that u might be able to use the current assignment for the future. Like for science fairs etc
The idea of "self plagiarism" is an oxymoron. It is properly called "multiple submission": submitting the same work (or parts of works) to more than one source, while pretending that they are all original. This is wrong because it is lying. But to call it "self plagiarism" confuses the issue, since by definition plagiarism means to claim someone else's work as your own (a different type of lying from multiple submission).
Science must be innovative.
Everything is a remix, nothing is completely original.
not nothing but agree
So... I've learned what kind of tricks to use to plagiarize. But no reason as to WHY it's bad, and why I should avoid doing it (aside "it is bad and you will be punished"). Thanks, TED!
This comment avoids definite articles, as they are owned entirely by previous authors.
I'm gonna need a citation on this
(a) In General.-
(1)Contents.-
Every patent shall contain a short title of the invention and a grant to the patentee, his heirs or assigns, of the right to exclude others from making, using, offering for sale, or selling the invention throughout the United States or importing the invention into the United States, and, if the invention is a process, of the right to exclude others from using, offering for sale or selling throughout the United States, or importing into the United States, products made by that process, referring to the specification for the particulars thereof.
(2)Term.-
Subject to the payment of fees under this title, such grant shall be for a term beginning on the date on which the patent issues and ending 20 years from the date on which the application for the patent was filed in the United States or, if the application contains a specific reference to an earlier filed application or applications under section 120, 121, 365(c), or 386(c), from the date on which the earliest such application was filed.
(3)Priority.-
Priority under section 119, 365(a), 365(b), 386(a), or 386(b) shall not be taken into account in determining the term of a patent.
Soooooooooooooo 90% of college papers I have ever peer edited are plagiarized? Nice.
"you might be wondering why you've never heard of the department of plagiarism" oh my god its the secret police.
Plagiarism: The lamest online crime.
I think plagiarizing yourself should be non-existent. If I come up with an idea for my first paper, and use that idea for my second paper, can u really accuse me of plagarizing if I don't source it? Am I "stealing" my own idea? That doesn't seem possible, and while it doesn't take much time to cite yourself, it seems like a waste of time to charge someone who used their own idea anyway but without reference.
No but they present it as NEW information
The problem is that when people talk about plagiarism, they overwhelmingly focus on the academic kind, not the artistic kind.
Okay, this video is not the best lesson on TED-Ed. I feel like it tells us what is plagiarism (everything that isn't 100% your idea, so..everything? even your ideas from past!) and that it should be punished. It doesn't really tell us how to avoid plagiarism and leaves us feeling hopeless. Do another lesson on plagiarism. One that would actually educate.
Lol Shakespeare at 0:26. One of history's biggest plagiarists by this video's criteria.
How so? I’m not into literature I would like to know what you mean. It sounds like juice gossip
Plagiarism, also known as standing on the shoulders of giants. My only complaint about this video would have to be the ending. The statement about doing your own work being easier, I'd have to disagree. It is easier to plagiarize in the short term. Instead, my reasoning for not plagiarizing is, simply put, the self rewards and self feelings of accomplishment. Think of writing a paper like building a house. When I've done my own work, man it feels great personally. Then when I get great reviews, I sometimes go on an ego trip, lol! Can't do that with plagiarized work. I sometimes even send my papers to friends, family, and even other classmates just to see what they have to say. Each time I get props, my head swells even bigger. I try to be tactful when going on my ego trip though, I'm not completely classless.
Makes perfectly sense
From most of the posts here, I think I see the problem - most people believe that you can't produce new ideas because they've all been produced or used. The point here is that at least SOME ideas in an academic paper, text, or project must be your OWN interpretation. As a teacher, I know that we see increasing numbers of cut and paste jobs done by students who use most of the techniques used in this video. I'm showing this to each of my classes next semester.
In university: paper with few quotes = you need to cite your sources. paper with many quotes = you have no original thoughts on this topic. Lose-lose.
I don't think people in the comment section really understand what plagiarism is or how it works.
If you cite the source and put them in your reference list, then it's NOT plagiarism.
If you just form a conclusion from your own opinion, then check again. Someone might've already come to that conclusion long before you and you HAVE to cite them.
If an opinion genuinely comes from you and you really don't seem to see any other paper that elaborate it as such, then you DON'T have to cite.
Seriously, there is no such thing as too much citations. You can avoid making a whilly quotable document (2:00) by trying to tie in many ideas from different sources with your own analysis and opinions to form a comprehensive paragraph, therefor building your own narative.
If you make something with your own effort, then you deserve to be credited for your work. Same as everybody else. Don't be lazy.
To further avoid plagiarism detection machine, you can simply paraphrase the quote you cited (while still citing the source). It's that simple, really.
But isn't it that this presentation is also plagiarism
since you merely summarized or paraphrased other
presentations on plagiarism? Note that plagiarism
includes "slightly rewriting and re-arranging the words that
you have read or heard from others?" So this could also
include slightly re-arranging someone else's presentation?
Plagiarism is so confusing.
Crazy.
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
I plagiarized since 93, not stopping now. Im a badass.
What if every person in the world was still in school ( High school/ College) How are you certain that not one will plagiarize? Plagiarism is like racism. It cannot be stopped.
boss nearly fired me so im here now
A few other things: It's not plagiarism if it's in quotes and the original author is stated. You can't plagiarize yourself. Plagiarism isn't THAT big of a deal. The punishment for plagiarism should be telling everyone who it was plagiarized from.
As a student I absolutely despise plagiarism.
You can't "copy" an idea. You can only "use" it!
If you don't allow people to use your idea it's as good as if you never came up with it!
The creator of this lesson seems to think that teachers want and value original content.
Soo...? Why do we teach our kids other people's ideas in order for them to use those ideas? Why not let them figure it all out by their selves and start from scratch?
The current higher level education systems around the world end up pushing a lot of Masters or PhD candidate to plagiarise to get their degree. Do you think every PhD or Masters candidate can "think of a new idea" for their thesis or dissertation? The ones who don't plagiarise but can't think of a new idea end up making their thesis or dissertation so convoluted to make it appear as if they have a new idea. The higher education system is broken and needs repair.
WTF?? How does one "steal" from themselves?
"...the far easier road of just doing the work themselves".
Yeah.. I don't think that's the easier road. Also, the video discounts the fact that putting together multiple disparate sources is a lot of work in itself and can be useful. I agree that plagiarism is bad but this video goes too far the other way. Society functions by being able to build a little bit on top of the massive amounts of stuff produced before. Most work is just combining things in interesting ways.
Sorry 😐, but the “DPI” just wouldn’t be a good original idea.
This video is plagiarism! She stole all of those ideas from the conspiracy theorist documentarians!!!
Sooo, does this mean if I want to make a Let's Play of a video game without plagiarizing, I need to build a computer from scratch, write the game, write the recording software, and create my own TH-cam to upload to?
Fairly surprised at the dislikes here... granted, it's not the best presented video in the world, but it's hardly bad. Seems a lot of people are grumpy, that they can't copy other peoples work, and pass it off as their own.
I'm sorry, but you'll have to do your own work, sonny.
(In fact, plagiarism can in some cases be a criminal offence, and include copyright violations)
Moral of the story: stop being lazy and copying other people, and make your own damn stuff.
Defending against plagiarism is only important if you value academic integrity & honesty. As in; it should always be important.
Just to continue my previous comment:
Plagiarism is a problem, but it was badly explained in video.
It's not about punishing people who don't mention the author with every single statement. It's about checking documents, which authors claim to have original value, whenever the value and originality is there. Examples of those documents: Master/PhD thesis, scientific articles, patents, government reports.... and of course, all books.
Funny and effective, this TED-Ed video should be more widely shared by more high school and college English teachers.
Eric Roth my eighth grade English teacher shared it with my class. It was awesome.
Glad to hear about your positive experiences!
3.48 minutes of my time wasted.
I'm so glad I became an engineer and don't have to deal with the fact that anything I could write in an essay is plagiarism. This comment might be plagiarism too since I'm probably not the first one to come up with the idea.
I actually work in academia (science). Believe me, that wrong citing is common, because it's easier to pass your idea, which not always is true. Is this harmful? Depends. But would you like to have your house build by someone didn't study and all his work was actually someones else?
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it's not there. Maybe we're doing good job fighting it. With patents, for example.
Left space for large, huge, enormous, gigantic...
So if I made this comment consist of nothing but, for example:
"Good artists copy. Great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso
Then that would be plagiarism? Really?!
And what if you're a critic? Your work is almost entirely based on others' works with quotes galore. Is that "legitimate plagiarism"? What's the difference?
I remember being told in English that all works of fiction have one of 7 storylines, ergo all fiction is plagiarism based on what was said in this vid. That HAS to be bullshit!
You can't plagiarize yourself. Plagiarism is taking someone elses work and claiming it as your own. Reusing work and plagiarizing are two different things. Reusing work is never really a bad thing unless it's specifically for a university or something that tells you you can't. It makes sense to reuse work at times really. The only way to really do it is to re-publish something you published (say a book) under a different name so no need to worry. I think this video confused people on that
it's very interesting this video because shows us all the ways of plagiarism and how professor or other people can catch us doing it. this is the laziest crime that people usually do with homework. we are not showing original thoughts and we are just copying.
I once told people that you can't use a sitcom plot unless it had already been used on "I love Lucy". I said it as a joke, but now I'm not so sure......
I bet the Internet historian would have liked to have seen this video awhile ago.
I was faced with a dilemma where I either had to plagiarize and get a good mark or go with what ever "horse manure" I had compiled , i chose the latter …and I interestingly don't regret doing so.
In the past I sometime plagiarize my papers from others, but after learning how plagiarize affects other persons work. And I learn how to use other persons thoughts or words by giving them a credit. Let others know where the sources came from. And not being plagiarized.
There is no such thing as original thinking in the sense meant here. Everyone gets there ideas pretty much based on other peoples ideas. I guess you could say it's not original if it isn't your own concept or extent of what is in your own way. But it's pretty much impossible to be original, Plato already though of everything. Ha.
its funny because no one is going to stop
Im not dissing the message, I get what teachers are going for. But when I get told for each class that I'm going to be found out for plagiarizing it feels like I'm being lead into a trap where some passage in a book i've not read is gonna be used to invalidate my work because they coin a phrase that I happen to use, theres really only so many words out there. And there appears to be as many false positives as there are obvious plagiaristic attempts
The amazingly adorable alliteration
I kinda want rip and reupload this vid, but it just isn't worth the effort.
you really put that well. 100% agree
And yet we see a lot of plagiarism in the gaming products... There is really nothing new under the sun.
Plagarism: also known as learning, as for instance when a little boy "plagarises fireman" in the back yard.. or was it called playing? I allways get those mixed up.
But in all seriousness, I suppose the video is ok in the right context, as for instance when educating kids in how to practice creative thinking while writing.
Without any such context though, I quite frankly don't know what to think of this...
Also, like EMan297007 said earlier in this comments section, citations are ridiculous. All the regulations discourage people from writing. I think that just saying something like "this was _______'s idea" should be sufficient.
*_C I T A T I O N S A R E R I D I C U L O U S_*
"I think that just saying something like "this was _______'s idea" should be sufficient." Class A son....
Bob Dylan fooled the world for decades claiming to have written many of the melodies to his hit songs when in fact most of the melodies were from preexisting songs that he did not write, including Blowin In The Wind.
In a last nail in the coffin scenario James Damiano's movie "Eleven Years" draws the straw that breaks the camel's back, rivets Bob Dylan to his secret past of plagiarism and rewrites musical history"......Virtue Films
No artist can lay claim to the controversy that has surrounded the career of songwriter James Damiano. Forty Two years ago James Damiano began an odyssey that led him into a legal maelstrom with Bob Dylan that, to this day, fascinates the greatest of intellectual minds.
Since auditioning for the legendary CBS Record producer John Hammond, Sr., who influenced the careers of music industry icons Charlie Christian, Billy Holiday, Bob Dylan, Pete Seger, Bruce Springsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughan , James has engaged in a half a billion dollar copyright infringement law suit with Bob Dylan.
As the curtain rises on the stage of deceit we learn that CBS / Sony international recording artist, Bob Dylan not only used songs and lyrics written by James Damiano but also solicited Mr. Damiano's materials for a period of over ten years and eleven months.
Bob Dylan's name is credited to the songs. One of those songs is nominated for a Grammy as the best rock song of the year. Ironically the title of that song is Dignity.
Bob Dylan's Stealing of James Damiano's Songs
lol I've committed literally all these crimes in high school papers.
David Wolfe knows all about this!
if it was easier to do the work ourselves no one would plagiarize
Absolutely. Apart from the fact that intellectual property is a dubious notion (and maybe an oxymoron), it is possible to plagiarise something without violating any IP laws (e.g., if you pay someone to write your paper).
I'm going to transcribe this for an essay about plagiarism. That way, if someone googles it, nothing will turn up.
Understand content but the underlying insinuation in the video is disturbing. Can we get away from portraying the lighter skinned individual as the crusader of justice and the darker skinned individual the perpetrator of deviant behavior?!
You just did that race thing, didn't you?
you made this a race thing.
Congratulations
i don't think spreading ideas is wrong. (maybe except if they are proven wrong). but doing it for profit and lying about the creator is something i consider stealing. so in a way it is the way it is done and not the shearing part, that i consider wrong.
Though it is worth mentioning that you are right that copyright can be a problem and hinder joy and creativity
well that was four minutes of my life i'm not getting back.
2021: 1955
Anybody from school had to watch this? Only me? Idk
So no one in this comment section would be against someone else taking a thing they wrote and claiming it as their own?
That is why plagiarism is bad.
I hate this video because it did such a piss job of explaining itself. "Stealing other people's ideas" is an argument that can easily be rebutted with "no idea is an original one" or "no one owns ideas."
So, for those of you who are indeed confused about this: any essay will require citation of some sorts. Changes are you are making an argument. How original the idea in your skull is, well that can be up for debate, however how you put it will be your own. In its construction, however, you will be borrowing the arguments, information, reasoning, or analogies from others. In the case of a scientific paper, while the 'idea' might not be yours, I bet your ass the figures you are quoting - unless you are doing the experiment yourself - were dug up by someone else. That person or group should get some credit for it.
And that brings me back to why plagiarism is even a thing: someone else worked to conduct that experiment, craft that analogy, or tease out logic errors in an argument, and you are claiming you did all that, thus robbing those people of any credit they are due.
Funny...she uses Shakespeare in the beginning. I mean, he copied so many ideas.
what's the prolem with using an older work, why work double?
With 6 billion people on the planet, saying something that no one has said before is highly unlikely. Most new ideas are derivative of some previous idea from before. Plagarism is unavoidable, and so is used to punish people the administrators don't like. To avoid punishment, remeber this key advice: everything on wikipedia is public knowledge and therefore does not need to be quoted.
Is there a way to pull others thoughts and organize them together to make a point without breaking the law? I have been given permission by an author to take his book and trim it down into the basic concept so that a culture that hates reading would still read his work. This is legal because i have permission right?
This is awesome!
Now I know all the strategies on how to plagiarize!
I don't understand why so high uproar? Plagiarism is BIG problem! Just imagine that some doctors might cite some "imaginary" researches, just to get their medicine sold. It would give them profit, but could be harmful to people. Or, just think that you've discovered something, patented in wherever-you-leave and then someone came, copied and patented it everywhere else (you have to pay for patent). You won't get anything for it. Original content is a currency in academic (science!!) world.
Library of Babel. Seriously. Look it up. Every thing that could ever be said is already on there. Verbatim. You could even copy and paste this and it's probably in there a couple hundred times.
Is it possible to have an original thought?
"Original thinking" yes, because all the people that have ever existed or ever will exist have to come up with entirely different thoughts.
This is one of the few TedEd videos that I dislike and even disagree with. Sure, passing off someone else's work as your own is a bad thing but books, songs and films almost always are based on something that has already been made.
... Apparently none of you people ever had to write a "real" paper (NOT the 15 page ones you write in high school), or you would understand why plagiarism sucks.
It IS possible to have very similar ideas than another person, but if these ideas stem from your own brain, articulating them with your own words shouldn't be a problem.
But if you're simply copying other people's work and selling it as your own, it's stealing.
But I guess the internet just thinks every thief is Robin Hood.
"Without ... putting quotation marks around direct quotes."
Kid: But... But...
Teacher: Yes???
Kid: If-f... Stealing from one website... is p-plagiarism, t-then... isn’t stealing from m-multiple websites... research?
Teacher: Why did I even attend...
Why can't we just share ideas? Does it really matter who thought of what first? I thought it was just about creating ideas that people would enjoy.
I've been copied by several individuals. My ideas , my thoughts, my life is not your personal reference book . From this moment forward all things concerning Jason E Buffington are protected under copyright ©️ or patent pending. Punishable by law .
"lksdô igp )i( #fläû jh Spöfä~af" -Me just now; in my own words.
That's how original a thought one can have within restrictions of a common alphabet. And still, it is only as original as everything that I have ever heard, seen or otherwise received. No matter how broken and distorted it is in the name of creativity.
the video isn't that bad, a lot of people hate it, I simply think that plagiarism is wrong and that people are "over hating" this video for no reason. Copie rights is always a tuchy subject in the internet :P
Get over it, So what I would be flattered if someone thought my words were worthy of quoting, writing, repeating. Even the originals were borrowed from other sources .
If some one or many can be encouraged, enlightened entertained... give all the credit to
the recipient of such to be able to receive and benefit by another.
We're not suppose to put quotation marks around direct quotes?
Do I have to find a book that to even say that the clear sky is blue, water is wet and other common knowledge?
Is there a transcript of this available?
Great, TommiWalle. Now I can copy this and claim it as my own. :p
sharing is fine. Sharing and claiming as your own is not fine
This sounds to me like an excuse to never ever write a literature review again. If I take pains to gather ideas from different sources and properly cite them, the 'DPI' will come and get me. This is the worst TED video I've ever seen.
I thought plagiarism was something people would do to pass school as some kind of last resort. Then I saw China's Autobots.
Only problem is that there's "nothing new under the sun" any idea you could come up with has been had by someone somewhere before, making it nearly impossible to be really original. You can only combine other peoples ideas in new ways.
I disagree with the 'wholly quotable' idea being plagiarism. If it is fully sourced but has no new ideas it is not plagiarized, just bad literature.
I think you missed the part about a "wholly quotable" document. I can't just share ideas and cite them. I also have to add my own ideas to them. Therefore all sharing of ideas with out attaching more ideas to them (even if cited) is still plagiarism. It is only deemed unethical because theres money involved. If someone is obviously lying they will get caught and shamed by the community, if they are not obviously lying, then they just helped to bring an idea back into the public consciousness.
You're going to get some poor kid kicked out of college because he took your comment too seriously. Things on wikipedia shouldn't be cited because they shouldn't be used in the first place in a scholarly/professional paper.
Government should not enforce Intellectual Property with laws; it infringes on freedoms. The artists will still get money for their creations for that fact that if it's good and people buy it (even if they get it for free), then they will donate to the artist so that they can see future works from them. That's how it used to be done, and it's how it should be done. Corporatism should not be tolerated because it infringes on rights, and it's inefficient.
Well actually creating sg that is whole quotes, has its own value, since a specific order of the quotes creates a whole new line of logic, so should not be punishable.