The Entitlement Of Fat Frequent Flyers.
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- Overweight TikTokers have been complaining and petitioning for new "rights" for frequent flyers who are extra large. I have thoughts.
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I'm a plus size traveller too... In May 2019, I traveled by air and my seatbelt doesn't fit... Did I ask special accomodations? No!!! I lost 20KG and plan to loose even more so I can travel more comfortably in the future without having to ask everyone else to adjust to me... And I feel so proud of myself for taking that step to better health...
i just wanted to say… congratulations!!! that’s not an easy thing to do and i’m so proud of you! ❤🎉🎉
Congratulations !!!!! Proud of you!!
Same here. I’m also I’m on the taller side for a woman, so knees are no fun. Am I the most comfortable? No. Do i complain? No. Travel is such a privilege. Congrats on your weight loss!
i'm proud of you!
Congrats!!!
"We're not asking for special treatment, we just want things that no one else will get."
Yes, we NEED an additional seat or two OR THREE!!
Well, you could pay for as many seats as youd like!
Oh hell no!! Im fat so I should get as many seats for free as I want!! LMAO
Was funnier in my head 😂
All people are equal, but some people are MORE EQUAL than others.
If someone has clear medical issues then they might deserve sympathy and accommodation, but not complete redesign. Buses, trains, planes, amusement park rides, and public toilets are made for thousands of people. Her logic would require that everything in society be built for the shortest person and the tallest person and the heaviest person. If you were designing a public restroom on this logic, you'd need all of the stalls to be wider and all of the toilets to have titanium reinforcement. If you only provide one heavy duty, extra wide bathroom, then whoever uses it will be on some level singled out.
She doesn't just want a compromise that kinda, sorta works. She also laments things like odd looks. A world built for her and meant to render her difference invisible would sacrifice efficiency again and again and again. It might mean expecting other people to pay more for plane tickets. With bathrooms, it might require a thought process of "we've redesign the bathrooms at massive expense to improve them. Now they can take half the number of people they could before. You're welcome!" A lot of elements of life are available because the maths worked out.
If it got to the point where people had to pay 10% extra, maybe then some people drop out of flying. If it got to the point where she demanded amusement park rides be redesigned, maybe they tell her "the physics no longer work and we can't afford to rebuild from scratch. We're shutting down. Everyone is now equal in not being able to ride the rollercoaster". Her entitlement is staggering.
It is truly insane that these people expect and demand that everything be accommodated to them with no expense to them.
I have been disabled due to rheumatological diseases since I was a teenager. There are many, many, many places that are inaccessible with a wheelchair, including medical care buildings, I actually have had doctors visit me outside because I couldn't get to their office, yet, even with the ADA if I say something, even just to complain to a friend about how humiliating, degrading, and unfair it is i get told that the world doesn't have to accommodate me.
I have had severe Cushings disease, and as someone who was, for a long time severely cushionoid, which includes a specific distribution of extra body fat, it just made me hate the entitled glutinous people even more, because now no one even considers that it could actually be a medical problem.
Now I have gotten treatment and gotten rid of the excess weight, and multiple other secondary effects of the Cushings disease.
I hated anytime I could tell someone was thinking that I was just lazy, ate crap, didn't excersize, contributed or caused my condition in anyway. I hated being thought of like these entitled people, because I am the opposite.
If severely disabled people who have done nothing to cause their problems don't get free accommodations, how dare people who directed caused their own problems demand that and be so entitled.
@@victorcates9330 precisely and well stated! This is also an engineering 101 rule: you cannot afford to design and build for the extreme - you have to make a conservative judgement call that will safely, economically, easily, and equally serve that majority of those intending to utilize the end product…that is how design standards and regulations are written…we all know the 100 year flood may come but to design for that flood water level is not economical or sensible so the conservative majority of floods is determined and that is used: such as water treatment plant processes must be protected from being inundated by a 50 year or 25 year flood…same with structures and designing for earthquakes, hurricanes, tornados, fires, snow loads, rain and wind, heat, pests, etc…a conservative level/limit/characteristics is chosen for a design that considers use, safety, economics, cost, maintenance, materials, etc. This oversize content creator is suggesting things be designed around a small percentage of the population which means it will cost more and realized benefit will be little. She needs to have an adult conversation about reality: either she can apply herself to losing some weight, or she can stop traveling and eating fats foods always on the go, or she can suck it up and live with her choice to remain as she is and make the best of her choices. It is not the responsibility of the vast majority of society to cater to a very very small number of a population…this is where self-accountability and maturity come into play. The large lady needs to GTFU and take responsibility for herself instead of being a bully to brow beat the majority to cater to her to save her feelings and not make her feel lazy for refusing to set limits and put in the commitment for change and compromise. No - we should never compromise with terrorists…and this is just another poster child for the outcome you get with parents that try to be friends and demand participation trophies!
My dad is 6’5 280lbs and gets cramps anywhere he sits, the movie theater, a stadium, the car, etc. but i have never seen him ask for special treatment once in his life. This is absurd
OMG as a 6,2 guy I am a lightweight 160 I can't imagine my weight being twice
I’m 5’6” and 176 pounds, I have been on a weight loss journey on my own since the beginning of the year, idk why I’m replying here, but I just decided to mention that I’ve been slimming down rather quickly, and since I’m also a kid/teen, I am still growing, making the process quicker. Again, why am I replying to this lol
im 6'3 280lbs myself, and I can sympathise
And he’s got more of an excuse to be that heavy considering he’s a crazy 6’5 so 280 isn’t that that much for a man his height
He's obese because he's eaten too much. Stop crying.
The term “fatphobia” is also absurdly misused. I am not scared of fat people. I just don’t like that the vast majority of them do not make changes to their health to accommodate for both themselves and others. To anyone who made a transformation and put in the grueling effort, thank you and wonderful job.
I'm not afraid of them either, unless they sit on me.
I'm really surprised just at the number of people who are overweight and many overweight people are in the obese category. I know you shouldn't fat shame but it's concerning when you see the younger generations that seem to not care and even brag.
@@silverice9406I'm afraid they might fall on me.
@loveyboo look fat shaming is kind of mean and Is sort of bullying. But, you shoul not embrace being fat and should take proper care of your health before heart disease, diabetes, and many more ruin your life.
@JHL5711 hmm, did you actually read his comment?
As a thin person, I need 3 free emotional support seats for having to deal with this
Dude, being next to a fat person on the plane sucks, I support this movement of yours.
lmao
And I need them to be free
This gets my seal of approval.🦭
I have been diagnosed with A.R.F.I.D and G.A.D, I support your movement, I demand the same "we are not asking for special treatment"
They should have a march for this. Twice a week, for a year
For her, three times a week would be much better.
Great comment. Makes total sense. No matter what its a win win situation
Haha! Excellent!
😂😂😂
LMAO
I once sat next to a heavy person (super heavy). It was a long flight like 6 hrs . She was smelly all her extra thigh region was touching me . I was cramped to the edge , I was internally crying . When asked to move a little bit she was showing faces and complaining . Unfortunately the seats were full so I had to sit next to her the whole flight . That is the worst day of my life .
The smell , sweat , the lack of space . I cant .
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Sorry you had to go through that. I had to seat next to a big lady but she was the other way around. Super aware of her problem, very considerate and willing to accommodate me as well.
The attitude is part of having a problem made worse or making it less annoying.
@@vaderladyl aww 🫠
@@vaderladyl yep, if they are aware and nice about it. It makes a huge difference for both
"youre asking for free things because youve eaten too much" really sums it up perfectly 😂
I think we should remind them that airplane seats are not an all you can sit buffet.
@@SirKaeyaStoleThisAccount 🤣
Is it really fair to expect them to pay for another seat when they've invested all that $$$ in food?!?
And she prolly eat at ayce buffet.
not everyone is fat because of food
Unfortunately I’ve been obese my entire life and I never saw myself as a victim of oppression who’s entitled to free seats in airplanes these people are crazy 🤦🏼♂️
Slay but fr same
I'm fat too, and I would NEVER expect to be catered to!!!
@@PorkPieNews fr
I literally and 70 p pounds over what I’m supposed to be and it’s from the meds I take and I get so mad when other fat people say that we need more space just buy a first class ticket my dad would always have to sit in first class without us whene we go on vacation
@@Books_with_ma fr, if they have the privilege for all the food that they eat to be that big, they can definitely afford a first class ticket
It's really irritating how people say, "I don't want special treatment" in the same breath as "But you have to do this for me and no one else because I obviously deserve it."
Don't expect fat person to say something in one breath.... pun intended.
The most uncomfortable sights I've ever had, they sat me next to a woman who was 300-plus pounds and her body was taking up half of my seat. It's not fair to other passengers to have a person that large basically taking three seats
She’s so entitled that she thinks that she’s the only person that ever in the history of airport security has gotten padded down
Every airport I’ve been to have made you go through a metal detector, search your luggage, and pat you down so I’m sure she wasn’t patted down because of her weight, extremely entitled
@@lexiumm2862maybe she didn't fit through the metal detector😅
Fr bro
Buy two tickets
Life stuff get a helmet
Many years ago I was at a fast food restaurant and was sitting myself minding my own business when this larger woman came in with about 4 kids and demanded a seat. She stared at me and others with a frown as if to say "When will one of you leave!" I just took longer to finish my food :)
I would also.
@@hansdampf640 I read that years ago.
That would have made me use the chew your food fifty times rule literally.
I would do the same *and* stare at her as i eat the food very slowly XD
Were there no other available seats?
I'm overweight and I struggle to fit into amusement park rides. My thought, either I lose weight or I don't ride. What I don't do is expect everyone to change for my bad health choices. It only encourages me more to be more healthy.
this is the only fellow fat person that i have ever agreed with.
I'm a former fat and I agree with you. If everything was catered to me, I might not have felt the need to change. I developed a severe health problem directly tied to my weight (I was going blind). I am certain that if the fat activists were as prominent, I would have fought losing weight and would have gone through a bunch of drugs & surgery to help me out a little.
I suggest watching Gary Taubes lecture Good Calories, Bad Calories and watch The Oiling of America. A lot of really good information about the history of nutritional science and where and when it failed. The old 1950s British diet in the prologue works for most people. The exception is if you have food allergies. Then you might need to go carnivore for a few weeks and then add back one real food a week. Weigh yourself the morning you add the food and the next morning. A massive weight increase is a red flag. Indicates inflammation. Also look for other issues like rashes, bloating, constipation, or the other. Keep a diary and record everything. If a food has two ingredients like soy sauce, list both.
Most diet advice is based on the Ad vent ist cult agenda. Which is basically telling people to lose weight on the same diet advice that farmers use to fatten livestock cheaply. It works for about 20 percent of people. The non carb sensitive.
If you eat an apple on an empty stomach and you are more hungry after you are carb sensitive. If you have the hunger shakes, you are very carb sensitive.
America's eat 100 fewer calories a day than 20 years ago. But obesity has increased. Eighty percent of obese and fat people have metabolic syndrome. Sixty percent of normal and thin people also have metabolic syndrome. The number of diabetes is growing, including skinny type 2 diabetes. All red flags that something is dreadfully wrong.
Seed oils besides increasing your heart and stroke risk, cancer risk, also damage the pancreas. Big problem if you need to lose weight.
Another issue to watch for is floride in the water. Along with a Ad vent ist based diet it can ruin your thyroid. Three tests are need and most doctors preform the most useless of the three. Take your temperature first thing in the morning. Good indicator if it is low.
Back over 12 years so when still listening to the so called experts mine was always 94. It took 10 years of eating a human diet, but it is now 98.6. Normal. Other health issues cleared up much faster.
I got kicked off a roller coaster once. I’ve since gone from 370 to 220. 40 more pounds to go and losing 5 lbs a month as a strict carnivore.
@@smashy_smasherton way too go! Keep it up. Every pound is closer to your goal. I know it's hard but you can do it. 🙂
Yeah as someone who thought it was ok to be 356 pounds at one point in my life. I would like to thank videos like these for the inspiration to go and better my self I’m now down 134 pounds. Thank you❤
incredible work! congrats 🎉
Wow that’s really impressive
Congratufuckinlations! That is SO cool! I hope you are so proud of yourself! I'm so proud of you 👍
Keep at it champ, we're all gonna be okay
Respect to you keep on your journey!
The narcissism is mind-blowing. They want everyone else to make sacrifices for them due to their 'discomfort', forgetting the fact that the discomfort experienced by the poor soul put in the seat next to them far supersedes that. Selfish people. As a society, we have to say no to these people.
So grahamvincent2133, I have a non-curable bone disorder. Yes, according to the doctor, it is non-curable that put me in a wheelchair for life. So you’re saying I should get out of the wheelchair get on the treadmill at the gym and lose the weight? How bigoted of you!!!!!! I have an actual physical physical physical physical physical limitation and you’re telling me I should get on a treadmill and go to the gym excuse me how brain-damaged are you if I am in a wheelchair how am I going to get 30 minutes on the treadmill, so does that tell you not everyone fat is their fault why don’t you Google osteoporosis it means bone loss bone loss bone loss which is only going to get worse worse worse worse overtime. In about 10 years it is going to be so bad. I will need two people to help me out of my wheelchair and onto a freaking toilet. You tell me how people like me can go work out and lose the weight people need to get over themselves some people can’t lose weight cripples cannot get on a treadmill cripples cannot get on a treadmill cripples cannot get on a treadmill cripples cannot get on a treadmill when you are at the airport look around if people are in wheelchairs or they have walkers or they have canes. They are physically unable to go to the gym and get a workout. Use your eyes and your brain please
If you’re going to attack all all all all Fattys, why not attack those who cannot get up and go to the gym, let’s make fun of the disabled and say the disabled shouldn’t get on as well
Fun fact: As a European one is instantly stunned by the huge seats Americans have in their planes as well as cinemas. At first you don't understand why, because you honestly would not think a human needs that much space. But sadly, once you look around in the USA, you understand why...
Yea.. I'm 6'2" and 185 lbs. And, as an American who has traveled the world, I realized that there are fat people everywhere. So, get over yourself.
Umm, while Americans seems to have an over abundance of plus size, I wouldn't count Europe (or at least certain parts of it) out of the running. While in visiting FL, my eyes were assaulted by several obese Euro men wearing banana hammocks (not saying the ladies were dainty but at least they had more on). Somethings can never been unseen.
Historically European have not struggled with obesity as much as USA. That is changing though. It’s really a problem in many countries now. I see the demands for extra accommodations as trying to deny that obesity is a choice. It is a choice. You can either choose to control your intake and exercise or not control. One of my morbidly obese coworkers and I were talking one day. He said, it’s easy for you you are naturally skinny. I can’t help being this fat. I called another lady over and said, hey, C, what app do you use to track your calories and exercise. She was also in good physical condition but I didn’t know if she logged everything ( like me) or not. I was guessing. She enthusiastically launched into a discussion of the various apps and their merits. I shared what I used and she left. His jaw was dropped open. He assumed that two healthy weight 45 year old women didn’t watch their food and exercise?! It’s easier to use the excuse that you are naturally fat and others are naturally skinny than it is to admit you are just too lazy to care.
I'm 6'3 and I also experience at least half of those. My knees are in the bathroom door, my tray barely opens, my shoulders are wide and the armrests are too narrow. Only difference is I didn't choose to be this way, and there's nothing I can personally do to help my situation.
It really frustrating. I’m 1,98 meter that’s a real problem in airplanes, cars, hotels etc. Even in the Netherlands where the average length 1,83 meter for male, standard bed length is 2 meter in hotels, hospitals etc.
Same here chief. 203, and gotta pay an extra $100 for extra room. I didn't choose this, but I ain't gonna bitch about it
If u chop ur legs off u should be able to lose about half your height,
kind regards
@@linequalsbox7469 Same here, 6'3, 240 lbs jacked af lol. I'm fortunate enough to fly first or private which gives me extra space. Though I understand not everyone can which sucks to think about.
Oh you would be surprised what a liberal doctor will cut off without medical necessity
I love that she got mad that people don’t want to sit next to huge people who are spilling over in the other seat. I’m fat myself and I don’t even want that.
Hehe yeah😂
I have nothing against fat people, even if it’s someone as fat as that entitled airplane girl, but at least have some decency by requesting for a passenger seat with no one next to to you, especially if you know that you’re gonna be spilling over other seats. You pay for one seat, you don’t get to take other seats for free. You don’t force people to pay for your seats too.
Or maybe do better and maybe consider taking care of your weight instead of acting like “I eat whatever I want my body is perfect haha nomnomnom”
I would get thrown off the plane if I had to sit next to that. Things would not be said nicely.
@Matt Lane totally depends on the person, if it's someone that spills into my seat, but has made a real effort to not smell, has clean clothes, and apologizes for the situation, I'm fine with that, but if it's someone that has a slight odor of swet, has a not properly fitting shirt that might have been used for 3 or 4 days and they have the attitude that they deserve half my seat, well than I'm Hella not okay with that
Thankyou for having thick skin.👍
@@kalle5548 i remember a buss trip in boden i had to sit with a fat person huff
Having purchased my airplane seat and then discover that I can only use half of it because I’m sitting next to a (censored word), makes me think that person should be buying half MY seat!
I have had this situation in theaters too. They almost need to require people over a certain size to purchase two seats. If you are going to occupy 2 seats than you need to pay for two seats. In airplanes, theatres, and anywhere else with assigned seating you are paying for the space you occupy, so if you are occupy 2 seats you should pay for 2 seats.
Been there, they don’t think about us and they are taking up soooo much room I can’t put my own arms by my side in my own seat, I have to sort of put them in front of me bc they are spilling onto my seat 💺
The airlines have a box to check if your carry-on bags will fit in the overhead. They should have a seat there that you have to fit in, or otherwise, they must pay for extra seats.
Imagine the arguments where customers are claiming to be plus-sized but the airline tries to tell them they aren't fat enough to qualify for the free second seat. "Sir, we are going to need you to remove your shirt and step on this scale for a thorough evaluation"
"I identify as plus-sized. Give me free seats" 😂
hahahah
As a 55 yr old plus size woman (285lbs), I am always embarrassed when traveling BUT I just get the window seat and don’t move and then ask for the seatbelt extender when everyone has gotten seated…… YES it is embarrassing BUT I don’t expect anything from anyone around me (usually not much respect as a human). I’m working on it, haven’t worked out in 5 years due to cancer BUT getting ready to kick the lazy a$$ out of myself and get healthy. Love your videos!! 💕💕
All the best to you hon ❤️
Consistency is key ✨ So just ensure that you have the motivation to continue when you start
Good to hear. It will benefit you
About the same as me when I started my routine, I lost 14 lbs in 2 weeks just walking up the hills where I live every day until I didn't have to stop for breath by the time I got to the highest hill, add this sort of routine to a good diet with veg, eggs, lean meats/fish or substitutes if your a veggy and you will soon feel like a new person in those first 2 weeks. And if you really have a craving for something sweet have a protein drink.
Good luck hon glad you are on the mend too 😊
I'm a significantly overweight guy(my shirts are 4XL), and people like that woman piss me off. I don't want to be "fat-shamed" any more than the next person, but people like her are trying to swing the pendulum too far. The planes don't magically become bigger or able to carry more weight for the same fuel cost just because you demand accomodation.
Ask if the cargo bay is pressurized and heated. They load via forklift or scissorlift, so you are covered
Newsflash: if you’re getting the same as everyone else gets then it isn’t discrimination. Asking for things that another class of people don’t get (non-plus sized people in this case) that’s called special treatment. The price of free extra space for you WILL get passed onto consumers. The rest of us. So she is literally asking for the general population to pay for her choice to stay at her weight.
As someone who used to be overweight (and still struggles with my weight and stuff) I learned that it's alot easier to lose weight than people think. It just comes down to how determined you are. I didn't like how I looked so I changed it.
The hardest part is to start for real
For me it was the mental motivation to go to the gym knowing that there was gonna be pain in there. I still do not like the gym coz it is hard work but I know now that it is part of what is needed to bring me to a healthy lifestyle.
The hardest part is to keep doing it. And make simple life changes( notice I didn’t say easy) like eating more protein centric meals, eating more home cooked food made with quality ingredients and healthy fats instead of cheap industrial seed oils, walk 15 min after every meal, sleep like its your job and lift weights at least 3 times a week. The discipline to keep doing these things is the difference between getting to a healthy body fat percentage and staying fat forever hoping others foot the bill for your poor life choices.
True facts. It can be hard to be a size 6 but it’s not that hard to get down to a size 16. And size 16 allows you to access whatever you need without issue.
@@neilmartis17992 always do the workout that you enjoy when possible. If the gym is too daunting go for a walk. Walking is a great exercise and 30 min/day can make a huge difference.
as Ricky Gervais once said, "If airplanes were built to accommodate plus sized people, we'd get nine people on the plane."
He would laugh his ass off about the toilets
@@annatomasik6927 most definitely
I love Ricky Gervais. He said about how fat people always look so nice with their lovely make up and their hair as well as all dressed up. There is just nothing they won’t do to look pretty - except for eat less and exercise. Even before I lost 70lb of my excess weight and was still huge I still found him really funny.
That isn’t even close to being accurate lmao y’all just look for an excuse you can to demonize plus sized people.
@@sonic_aquarius we're not demonising anyone. Plus sized people aren't demonic or evil, but they shouldn't be able to demand things that other people can't get just because they're severely overweight. If it was due to a disability I can understand that and will support whoever needs aid, but it definitely is a choice when these people refuse to loose weight. You can't claim to be the victim when your the cause.
And obviously you should buy more seats yourself if you need them - its not amicable for airlines to spend extra money on every overweight person that is too big to fit in the seats.
Life for these plus sized people will be much easier if they understand that due to their weight they can't do certain things. If you don't put the effort into loosing weight you must accept that you can't do some things. Aeroplanes can only take so much weight and if you want to travel on one, make sure the airline knows your heavy and buy the seats for your weight yourself. Its only right.
Well said! 2 years ago I had a huge binge eating disorder and undiagnosed ADHD and my weight ballooned to 310 lbs. I worked out, saw a therapist, got on meds (not ozempic) and I’m now 285. I can’t express how much losing just 20-25 lbs will make you feel like a whole new person, esp when you do it safely. Once you start seeing results, you’ll just be so driven to continue.
Were you crippled and in a wheelchair? Unable to use a treadmill at a gym? Do you have permanent bone loss also known as osteoporosis putting you in a wheelchair for life? Maybe these are things that need to be explored. Sometimes the persons fat is not their fault so I’m in a wheelchair for osteoporosis I guess that means I shouldn’t fly, even if I can sit in a middle seat with the armrest down, I’m still a fatty fatty fatty fatty because I can’t go to the gym. What are rude world we live in such bigoted world.
Sometimes I feel insecure about my size, but this video reminds me that I can at least fit in public seats and not worry about breaking them
I feel this
NGL Taylor is a looker.
Taylor you are stunning dear
You should also remember that you could probably walk a mile without falling to the floor, can speak a sentence without being short of breath, you can stand up without running immediately out of energy - that’s the reality of their life.
It’s okay to feel insecure about yourself, and theirs very few people who love their body - but providing you are living your life any way you want, then find reason to be happy. You might not love yourself today, or tomorrow, but in 5 years time - you will look back at yourself and realise you were a star.
Me too 😂
Maybe the answer would be to charge for tickets based on weight? If your luggage is overweight, you pay extra, so if you need extra seating PAY EXTRA!
There was a case just recently because Southwest Airline actually kicked people off the plane to accommodate a fat person. Still took their luggage though, so they were stranded with NO luggage in an airport, JUST because a fatty, who didn't book ahead had to be accommodated! The victims of this HAD paid full price!
I was depressed and gained so much weight after moving to USA. The life change and being away from friends got to me. Three years in now I went from 198 pounds to 138 pounds. Still not a proper weight but I am trying to stay as healthy as I can. I would never expect the world to change due to my own issues!
138 is a pretty proper weight! Good for you, I'm sure you look great.
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👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Good for you! Well done.
Welcome to 🇺🇸 and thank you for your service which is being a productive member of society by being a better human. Keep challenging yourself to be better! You can beat the odds as you have done so this far!
3 years is work! You can lose more weight, I guarantee it
138lbs is healthy for most adult women. Be careful not to go too far in the other direction lol.
This is totally the new American way. I made bad choices and take no responsibility for any of it because it's society's fault.
It was always the american way
@@Uninteruptable exactly. It is the fruit of the path they have collectively been choosing.....
@@Uninteruptable No, it was not the way. This is recent. Americans used to be all about hard work, responsibility, individualism, etc.
I was next to a plus size person in a 3.5 hour flight. My hands were in my lap because i could not use the arm rest as they could not fit if it was down. They asked me if I could move my elbow because it was in their side. I said unfortunately I do not possess the ability to remove my arm. They got mad so i requested to be moved and they put me in business class. The person then got mad i was upgraded and the flight attended politely said I'm sorry but you similarly make the people next to you uncomfortable if i moved you.
The cost of the flight is divided between the number of tickets, so the more seat they can fit on the plane the cheaper the price of each tickets, space is same so more seat means smaller seats. Budget airlines will do all that they can to fit more seats in to lower the cost of each ticket because that is the demand, there is also the weight limit which divides up into allocations for each seat or passenger, limiting how much luggage each passenger can bring. If you want more space, more leg rooms, more weight limit per passenger, you have to go with a plane that has fewer seats and hence higher price per ticket. Pretty simple concept. If she and every other oversized passengers get free extra seats or upgraded seats for free, everyone else has to pay more for their ticket to cover the costs. A 300 seat plane with 30 such cases means it can only fit 270 passengers each paying 11% extra to cover the 30 free seats.
The only reason she is asking for handicapped accessible bathrooms is so that she has more room for herself. She doesn't care about the people that actually need those facilities.
I have a handicapped mother and I hear her complain all the time that larger people use the handicapped stalls because they offer more room. This causes her to have to wait when all the regular stalls are vacant.
I’m a pilot, we have those policies such as, only 1 seatbelt extender, only 1 seat etc. for safety reasons. Number one above all else is in the event of an evacuation you may get stuck, otherwise find it difficult to move and will endanger/kill others who are stuck behind you trying to get out.
As someone who watches Mentour pilot and 74 Gear channels i feel sorry for what pilots have to go through. Especially when it comes to dealing with self-confident smartasses,who think that every word can turn into reality in a blink of an eye. If i remembered correctly Peter described such issue in relation to car accidents. It was something about when those who are not in the industry, values technical solution ( fix car design ) over behaviour change. But i may be wrong.
I love that outro 😂 just quietly comes into view from the right side of screen showing is those pearly whites 😂
i think this is sad that people have bad life choices and they think that they deserve a better spot in the world due to poor choices
like wtf is wrong with this generation
its not about them "deserving" anything, most weight gain is due to depression or health conditions and is a very difficult pyschological struggle for people, they deserve basic human decency.
@@sunflower9682 "Basic human decency" isn't making everyone pay for your poor health choice. I personally don't give a shit the reason why they're fat, I'm not paying for them no matter the sob story.
@@sunflower9682 It's not the world's job to cater to you
Life sucks for everyone, deal with it yourself
As a tall person with a large skeleton, designing planes with extra leg room would be nice, but asking for an extra seat is ridiculous 😂
Same. I’m 6’ 2”.
I talked to my grandpa about this because he flew planes for a long time and he said he doesn’t care if there’s a 600 pound man on the flight but as a pilot he need to know that the weight distribution is going to be equal so the plane doesn’t crash and he said that if a 600 pound man is complaining that the planes are accommodating for him that he needs to make better lifestyle choices The better lifestyle choices is basically a way of saying you’re an asshole to your own body and others
I’ve been overweight most of my life and it’s only been in the last two years that I’ve completely taken control of my health, and changed my lifestyle to be physically active every day. When I was in uncomfortable situations for my size like plane seats I never once thought that the airlines needed to accommodate me. I always thought I should be the one to be more responsible with my health. Now as a healthy person who works hard to maintain it though diet and exercise, I find influencers like her infuriating.
Me too and good on you! I have maintained a healthy weight for six years going from fat to healthy sized and within the BMI for my height and age.
The truth hurts
I think the real problem is that she has been given too many "Free" trips to the buffet.
😂
LMAOOO
Dead 💀
Brett is the most based young woman of today’s generation
Wife material
Yeah. I'm the male counterpart apparently. At least from what people tell me anyway
By what metric !
Still just amazing
Don't forget Amalah
Im a quadriplegic person who travels quite a lot. Most people often overlook the fact that wheelchair users haven't had easy access to air travel if we use wheelchairs. And we are working on that. But I feel like more people need to mention disability and wheelchair users within this conversation of fat entitlement in regards of air travel. Don't get me started talking about disability injustice… Oh girl! We still don't even have marriage equality for disabled people on welfare, we don't have employment equality, housing equality, education equality… Don't forget about people with disabilities.
Exactly and the big delta is that you didn’t chose to be in a wheelchair. I am fully supportive of actual physical disability being accommodated. Obesity is not a disability. It’s a choice
I just ranted about this wooman this morning! There are 2 options laid out for her. 1) diet and exercise at a consistent rate to lower your weight and not have to deal with these struggles or 2) shut the hell up. If you need an extra seat, buy an extra seat. No one in their right mind would ever just pay for your extra seat. It's truly unbelievable that people can be and are this entittled.
Actually to be fair, there really should be an official airline policy so we can get easily distribute the excess weight so they’re not all on the one side and crash
Sick of people blaming everything and everyone else because they got fat. I used to be overweight and I took the blame to myself and copped on lost the excess weight. I've no six-packs or washboard abs but the very least is my gut is not spilling over to the seat next to mine
People tend not to have empathy for the extremely obese, and I can understand why. It is ultimately their choices that lead them to where they are. However, when somebody gets to that point, or they are so grossly obese, that they cannot function in normal society, at that point it’s mental illness.
These people are addicts, just as people who smoke and drink, and use drugs compulsively are addicts. They will make endless excuses for their behavior, they would lie about their behavior, and they’re not going to turn things around on their own, they need help.
Also, I fly recreationally, and I can tell you that weight is an extremely important factor when it comes to a flight. So what Brett was saying about accommodating a fat person having an impact on luggage capacity, that is absolutely how it would be.
What about people that are forced to have their space occupied by plus size travelers, had a 6 hour flight one time, where the person next to me was pretty much on top of me because of how big he was. I did not even have MY seat, that I paid for...
I d’ be having a real problem I have sensory issues. I don't like being touched be honest I d’ be crying screaming.. Sensory issues re” an issue for me.
Wow, that is so messed up.
"Being fat is not a choice" for some people that is true. I've seen my mom try every possible way to lose weight. Different types of diets and exercises but she still stays the same weight. She doesn't really gain or lose weight. Right now she barely eats but when she does eat she doesn't eat freely and says she's on a diet. She's also constantly exercising and nothing seems to work. I feel genuine sympathy for people like her
Edit: Thank you all for the comments! She did get checked in a hospital and it had something to do with a hormonal imbalance? I'm not too sure about the details though
Honestly sounds like a secret binge eater
@@t.o903 actually sounds like Hashimoto disease.
@@t.o903 that’s usually what it is.
Artificial sweeteners will cause that to happen. Has she eliminated them from her diet? Natural sugars like sugar cane and honey get a bad rap because they have calories in them, but you're body recognizes them and knows how to process them unlike the fake stuff it stores it as fat and demands something else. It creates a vicious cycle but far be it from the FDA or government to protect us from these substances that are so profitable for their corporate donors 🙄
@@zatskya Oh my god that does sound like her! Literally been researching for the past half hour. THANK YOU
2:55 " Who is harming you"
answer is : Type 4 diabetes ( because they ate Type 2 and 3 )
This is scary! I can fathom needing 2 seats! But needing 3 seats! If someone needs 3 seats, then fitting on a plane is the least of their problems!
"Without fear of being discriminated against for our size." This is the one group of people in which discrimination can save their lives...
Absolutely!!! They shouldn’t even be considered human. Worse than animals
Exactly, where I am from you can get essentially arrested for health reasons, mainly mental health reasons where you are a danger to yourself, even things like refusing to take meds which will lead to your death (I saw someone who this had happened to because they were diabetic and refused to take their insulin). Why can’t they have something similar for extremely obese people? Take them in, make them exercise and control what they eat. By not doing anything about their weight they are a danger to themselves, so it is along the same sort of reasoning as someone with a mental illness or refusing to take meds being a danger to themselves.
Discrimination almost never saves lives. Most of the times it ruins them.
@@iridalydia try applying a bit of thinking here.
@@iridalydia bring back bullying
The wheelchair accessible bathroom is a wonderful idea. My brother often travels with his crutches and wheelchair and it would be much less of a hassle for an accessible bathroom.
I'm a biggish guy.
6ft tall and weigh about 95 kg.
How do i cope in economy?
All though I do fit in an economy seat , i prefer to work a bit harder, fly premium economy and have plenty of room.
Also if you are already paying for premium, you have far more chance of being upgraded to business
“We’re not asking special treatments !”
In the same breath :
*”Give us more seats ! Oh, and you’re paying for it “*
you mean 100 breaths later ☠☠
@@clovermx1472LMAO
If you can afford to be so big that you need 2 seats, then you can definitely afford that second seat 😂
I mostly agree with you. There are some people who have a genetic predisposition towards obesity, and you can't really help what family and genetic tendencies you'll be born to. However, there are still things that can be done to combat that! Namely, more exercise and changing your diet.
@@aubreycarter7624 just dont sit on your ass your whole life, dont eat junk food every day and stop the "i cant, you're just fatphobic" mentality and you are good to go
I had an obese brother who was over five hundred pounds. He required a CT scan used for large farmyard animals and complained that the hospitals did not accommodate overly large people. He was embarrassed by the fact that he had to go to a veterinarian to have the scan. He never would loose the weight and ended up loosing his life due to the fact. Doctors would not perform the stomach reduction surgery because he had sleep apnea and would not use the machine. He ended up succumbing to his disease. It is a disease, and the system needs to recognize the fact!
My husband recently flew from Fresno to San Francisco so it was one of the smaller planes. They had to randomly throw off 6 people because the weight limit had been reached. What the eff….. We went to an event this past weekend and 80% of the women there were 30 to 100 lbs overweight. THIS is an epidemic!!!!!
It’s seriously so sad , everyone is huge
Was that really a revelation?
2:08 - “She dropped something that stunned people”
Was it herself? xD
If you need extra seats, pay for them. The point she makes about service animals is spot on. I traveled from coast to coast with my large service dog. The only accomodation I was given was the bulkhead seats. Even so, they insisted she should sit under my seat. I had to spend nearly an hour explaining ADA rights as well as dog physiology. As in 80 lbs dog doesn't fit under 17'' wide seat. I haven't flown since. Take a train. It's much more comfortable and accommodating.
Buy a seat for your dog. 🤷🏻♀️
Boo effing hoo
I totally understand that. A service dog is a necessity for you, probably (i don’t have a service animal so I apologize if I misjudged you) and it’s definitely very unfair if you had to pay extra seats for your dog even though you need your dog and your issue is not due to bad lifestyle, but the super rotund passengers who could probably make better life choices can get free seats. This is so messed up.
On this topic, I have very strong feelings and good reasons for them. My mom is a bigger woman, both with the wide shoulders she has and the hasimoto's thyroiditis she has, on top of multiple instances of near death sicknesses and incidents that left her unable to move or exercise. She doesn't promote being big though, because she hates being that big because it makes her feel ugly and self-concious. And on that topic, she doesn't feel entitled to anything because of her size except the respect that all people should give others. She raised me right regardless and works so hard just to have life slam her in the face all the time. So yes, this kind of stuff disgusts me because I have a mom who has the same problem but she doesn't complain, she doesn't make others take a knee to her, and she doesn't let it define her. People who do these disgusting acts of selfishness really deserve to be overweight if they're not going to at least attempt to fix the problem, 'cause some of us don't have a choice in the matter.
when I was about 7, I had the most entitled fat flyer ask if I could get off my seat and sit on my mother's lap so SHE could have that space claiming I'm not using up the whole seat anyway. My mother was livid and told this woman I would not be moving because we paid for the seat she didn't.
Every time I go to an amusement park with my mother in law I have to hear her complain about roller coaster seats not being large enough for her to ride & it boils my blood! Like how is it that corporations have to throw money away making these changes for you while you refuse to drink diet soda instead of regular cause it tastes different? These people won’t make the minimum effort but expect the world to do the most.
Diet soda will not help losing weight
Pilot here 👋🏼 More weight equals increased fuel burn! Hence increased costs to the airline, which is passed on to customers ticket prices.
The FAA assumes the average passenger plus carry on weighs 190lbs.
Big fan btw… thanks Brett!
I recently took a flight for the first time in close to a decade and let me tell you, the seatbelts are so long you spend a minute just reeling it in to find the buckle at the end. The fact that some people need an extension on that?? Actually seeing that, after only watching videos about it, really hits you harder about the state of our world
I am a former Airport ramp agent and medic. We had an emergency declaration on arrival with with a passenger having a heart attack. A very, very, very overweight passenger refused to get out of the seats, yes seats , to let the paramedics through. ."I can't move" luckily the heart attack passenger survived, just.
With all the energy she used to make this petition.. she could have focused that energy on losing weight.. would be no issue anymore.
The victim mentality is a real kicker
It must not be too bad for her, because Brett said that basically all she does is travel with her partner. If something is causing me pain and discomfort, I definitely don't continue to seek it out . just saying..💅
"We aren't asking for special treatment"😂 f*** I'm dying
As a plus size person I think she is really entitled to wanting to have free extra sit. I too get uncomfortable while traveling by train, bus, or plane but I never thought to ask for extra sit for free because of how I look. If she wants to gets more comfortable she should take care of herself.
Two things
I love how I see do many "first" comments.
I also love how they take their weight and try to make things different based on those boundaries. Free tickets shouldn't be a benefit for overweight people with a health risk. "I don't want special accommodations" free seats IS AN ACCOMMODATION THOUGH
When flying, we "rent" space on the plane. If a single seat is not enough space, a flyer can rent a second or third seat. Similarly, if a flyer of normal size just wants more space or a row to themself, they can rent a second or third seat to make it so.
me: trying to catch when Brett will switch into a sponsorship
Brett: *proceeds to switch into sponsorship mid-sentence*
me: gosh darnit, she’s done it again 😭
Yeah she always does that she cuts herself off.
This makes it seem that it's waay easier to modify whole planes to accommodate “plus-size” travelers rather than to make lifestyle choices
This is like someone who 7 feet tall demanding that all ceilings and doorways be the right size for them
Yes, unlike you can actually control your weight (in most cases)
It's worse because you can't so much control your height
I agree on this. Just to play devil's advocate for a moment, there are situations (my mother-in-law suffered through this) where a person tries to lose weight and can't. However, I don't believe that's the case with most overweight individuals and this petition is still ridiculous.
the plus size traveler said she is embarrassed to ask for a seat belt extender, but she is perfectly fine with asking for a seat. My Dad and Stepmom are plus size, and they always ask for a seat belt extender and if the really needed another seat they would be too embarrassed and would try and lose their stomach.
4:48 I love how she transitions into her ads🤣
Same it's so smooth
I actually agree with the fact that airlines need better policies for plus-size passengers. They need to start measuring people as they go through security to ensure you can fit into one seat without overflowing into adjacent seats, just like they measure carryons to ensure they will fit in overhead storage. If you can not fit in one seat, you should be required to pay for two, just like you have to pay additional if your bags are oversized. There is nothing worse than having to sit next to someone who is overflowing their seat on top of you. How is that fair? I once saw someone who was sitting between two morbidly obese people, and you could only see the persons face and chest. Their arms and legs were covered up by the obese passengers. It's no wonder people are becoming hostile towards obese flyes who do not purchase two seats.
I’m fat and I would NEVER expect the things she expects. The audacity, the nerve…..😖
Ugh same here. I praying in about 5:1/2 weeks I am finally under 200 lbs again June 12th for my bottox shots for me mirgrines I ll be 180”s 187-182 lbs September 150”s 157-152 lbs. This woman on the clip is crazy.
“you need to accept that are things you cannot do, if you don’t like something you have to adapt because you can’t expect the world to adjust for you” period!
Most heavy people usually BUY 2/3 seats for their own comfort.
I have such bad social anxiety, that if I were to ever travel alone and risk a stranger coming next to me, I would sincerely consider buying another ticket just to get to travel without the anxiety of being next to a stranger. I'd never imagine that the airline should give me a free ticket... Would it be great if such an arrangement was sold, like some single seats for those with social anxiety? Sure, I'd gladly pay extra for it. But would I ever have the nerve to demand it? Absolutely not.
Other people are not responsible of me. I am responsible of myself.
You need to see a therapist big time.
You actually deserve extra seats more than her because you can't really fix that type of stuff. But I agree that the majority of people shouldn't adapt their stuff for the minority of people. Admitting that the world doesn't revolve around you and you aren't entitled to anything is something I respect.
@@Какой-точел-д7д No. Nobody deserves an extra seat. 😂 For any reason.
I don't want to sit by a stranger so my husband and I buy 1st class tickets. There are only 2 seats per row. Easy peasy.
Make a plus size seat section but make sure you charge plus size prices. Totally fair.
Hm, take three rows of six seats each (3 per side) out and replace with two rows of four wider seats each (2 per side) with a bit of empty air between the seats. Now, sell those seats for 225% of the cost of a regular seat. I can already hear the screams of not fair.
When Brett read the line, “Being forced to occupy only one seat can result in pain and vulnerability to poor treatment from other passengers,…” My thought was, your not forced to fly that airline, or fly at all! Additionally, everyone can experience vulnerability and poor treatment from fellow passengers. Once I was on a flight where the people behind us were talking a bunch so I had to almost blast music in my earbuds to sleep. Also, it only sounded like one of the three in the conversation wanted to be in it.
Even if you ignore accountability you have to realize what is more logical. Changing the world to fit your needs, or changing yourself? Assume you can't lose weight for what ever reason, well don't fly. Take the train or the bus. Find some way to not need to travel in the first place. Or if you absolutely have to fly, pay extra and get first class. Those seats are pretty big, and if that's not enough buy two seats. If you can't afford that, well again maybe you shouldn't be flying? It's a luxury to fly, not a right.
When she said “we’re not asking for special treatment” like bishhh that’s EXACTLY what you are doing. You are in charge of your OWN life. Get in a calorie deficit and get daily exercise, even something as simple as taking a walk! You don’t have to be morbidly obese, you CAN change that ❤
I lost it when Brett "ended" the episode early😂
I thought the video was over and nearly clicked off lol
@@joshrandall9042the editing so top notch
“I’m not asking for special treatment” but you are 💀
Airline companies must also remove weight restrictions on luggages because i dont want to discriminated by the amount of luggage i wish to carry. 😅
I was sitting there thinking that if plus size passengers get free seats then technically I am also entitled to a free seat because seats on flights are just tiny and uncomfortable in general. But then prices would sky-rocket and everything would go to complete shit. The only people i think it would be justifiable to get a free seat are people with disabilities that actually need the extra space, and there should be regulations about that as well.
Im traveling at the end of the month with my 10 month old. I could ride with him on my lap but we bought him his own seat because i wouldn't want to inconvenience people around me with him and his extra stuff. Just buy an extra seat if you think you need it to have a comfortable ride.
I think seats should be larger because flying can increase the chance of blood clots for everyone. Of course size increases the chance exponentially. My husband and I book an extra seat without complaint and it makes a huge difference! One airline employee told us that some companies have a policy where you can apply for a refund on the extra seat if the plane was not full. I have never researched this because we take full advantage of the comfort the extra seat provides!
I’ll never forget when I flew to Portugal and the woman next to us got upgraded and the middle seat was empty, so I got 3 seats for my one! It was so lucky! I’ll never get that lucky, but I didn’t demand I had that on the way back. Ugh I hate these types of people.
You are the voice of reason!
Ever heard of I before E. I need to change myself before EVERYONE changes for me. I dont know how to add the "except after c" part, but you get the idea.
The comment about the luggage weight was really on-point. PEOPLE should be getting weighed at check-in, and charged extra for being more than 10% over standard BMI. BTW, I myself am obese, so...
Only issue with that. BMI is a bull crap standard to start with. I know people who are above that allotment, without being fat, due to BMI not accounting for larger than normal muscle mass.
I would do it based on a cubic foot standard. Fit through this box, and get charged normal.
(BMI is frustrating in my line of work, because to be fit enough for the job you have to put on muscle, which makes you heavier, and if you don't increase the size of your neck, you get kicked out for being overweight regardless of how fit you are.)
I heard a story of a man that wasn't allowed to get a life insurance because he had to high BMI. The thing is... that he was a linebacker(or offensive line, I don't remember) in american football(Europe league so it isn't NFL standard). BMI is... an indicator at best.
Imagine if it was the other way. “I am thin and this seat is way too big for me to feel safe. I think if we had airplane troubles I would not be snug enough and I would go flying everywhere so I think I should only have to pay for half of a seat”