.75 caliber Matchlock Musket. The Original Turkey Gun

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  • The matchlock musquettes were used in both England and France during the first half of the 17th century. Indeed the Dutch and several German states took into use similar designs for their musketeers. It's wide use is documented in numerous drill manuals of the time along with numerous surviving examples (specimens in the Musée de l'Armée in Paris, the Tower of London, and the Royal Ontario Museum) . During the English Civil War this was considered a Regimental pattern and barrel lengths appeared to have varied from 42" to 48" inches. By 1660, this design had become obsolete in most armies. However some were retrofitted by replacing the lock with a newer design such as a dog lock. A beautiful example of this was found archaeologically off one of the sunken ships of Phipp's New England Army that attempted to capture Quebec in 1690. In addition as matchlocks were sold off, it is likely they would have found homes with the 17th century Pirates on the high seas.

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  • @suthernsavage5643
    @suthernsavage5643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Make sure and show us if you hunt with it! I'm trying to build one right now and I want to hunt with it but my state is confusing on regulations for black powder.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So we were going to go Turkey hunting with it but due to hunters leasing up almost all of the ground (Including our range) we never got a chance to. So then we were going to go Doe hunting with it because there is ground available now however I just smashed my hand with a trailer tongue and it may require surgery so I will not be doing any shooting for a while but my brother might take it.
      Thanks for watching

    • @SRP3572
      @SRP3572 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Real11BangBang where did you get your length of slow match from?

    • @johnmullholand2044
      @johnmullholand2044 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SRP3572 Dixie Gun Works has match cord. Or you might find some braided cotton clothesline at the local hardware store. If you go with that, make sure it's pure cotton, and not a poly blend.

  • @snappers_antique_firearms
    @snappers_antique_firearms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would love to see the look on the face of the first man who ever fired a gun

  • @garrettfromsmokeinthewoods
    @garrettfromsmokeinthewoods 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    At 2:52 you can see the ball flying through the air

  • @Teleoceras
    @Teleoceras หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really recommend you don't open the pan until the musket is shouldered. In the past I've had a gust of wind flare up the match with the pan open which an ember from the match ignited the pan charge. You seriously don't want your face over the flame. Safety is always #1!

  • @Squib1911
    @Squib1911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a great spark lighter!
    It was interesting to watch the slow approach or creep of the match cord to the pan.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes when done right this is more reliable than the flintlock. just not as practical

  • @Velma-And-Scooby
    @Velma-And-Scooby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I own several historical firearms including a matchlock musket. I always put my match on a table when loading powder. Definitely not the safest firearm. Matchlocks always bring me memories of that Disney movie Pocahontas where John Smith was sitting under that waterfall blowing on his match while aiming at Pocahontas. Then John Smith jumps through the falling water and his match is still burning. Well I’m being to critical of the details of a Disney movie.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol where in the world are you?
      Sorry I couldn't resist.

    • @Velma-And-Scooby
      @Velma-And-Scooby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Real11BangBang, I’m actually a history professor at a university and my real name is Kristen. I dressed up as Carmen Sandiego for Halloween of 2020 while teaching at my college. I used to love the show as a kid. I’ve been a collector of old milsurp firearms since I was 18. My first one was a Mauser K98.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Velma-And-Scooby We just picked up a K98 for the channel. They are such sweet shooters.

  • @micwell2247
    @micwell2247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well drilling the flash hole at the bottom of the frizzon works ...never tried that one

    • @micwell2247
      @micwell2247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe you meant drill a hole at the bottom of the barrel where the pan meets the flash "pan".

  • @sailorjohnboy2325
    @sailorjohnboy2325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've found non chlorinated brake cleaner strippers all the oil off my firelocks.

  • @WendiGonerLH
    @WendiGonerLH ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s so interesting to look at the design of early muskets, especially the trigger bar. It’s very clearly a holdover from the transition away from crossbows. As ugly as I personally think it is, that’s really cool

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol yeah sometimes i like it to just be a little different

  • @ragnarulfbroder1
    @ragnarulfbroder1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Historically they would carry a small fire pot full of hot coals up and down the infantry firing lines and everyone would light their match. Or you lit a small fire with you flint and steel to light your match with.

    • @ragnarulfbroder1
      @ragnarulfbroder1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also the reason for having a sentry post was to have a pot of hot coals to light your match with always ready. Hence the corporal of the guard.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats good info thanks!

  • @blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194
    @blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video thank you.

  • @INeverMetAGunIDidntLike
    @INeverMetAGunIDidntLike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have always wanted to shoot one of those. Well done.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are a LOT of fun!
      Thanks for watching

  • @williamkoppos7039
    @williamkoppos7039 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That thaing has itself some FAST ignition. I may be crazy but it seems faster than a flinter. Gotta get one, fun Vid.

    • @vizprave6721
      @vizprave6721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      imo it's better than a flintlock

  • @SeaDog337
    @SeaDog337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tiller triggers like this were more typical of the 16th century, gradually falling out of favour by the early to 17th. You can see a mix of these and more modern triggers illustrated in Jacob De Gheyn's 1607-8 drill manuals. In fact, the fan-tailed stock on this model would also indicate it's from De Gheyn's era.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you thats good info. we will be definitely checking into that

  • @lexheath8276
    @lexheath8276 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use the Jakob de Ghene safety manual of arms. 5/8" arch punch makes my shot cards. Pyrodex RS for making the slowmatch, only good use for it 😊 But 3F for charge.
    Great vid.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thankyou. we have updated this video quite a bit in are guns of the pilgrims series

  • @rebeccaback3287
    @rebeccaback3287 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excelent.shooting. I have llerned something from this. David Back.

  • @wildrangeringreen
    @wildrangeringreen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    from a time when "burning the wick from both ends" was a more serious occasion :) I think I saw this loading method of musketeers and a rear rank that blew their matches in an original military manual once... the method was called "shooters and blowers" haha jk. Matchlocks are fun... and frustrating at times.

  • @SteveAubrey1762
    @SteveAubrey1762 ปีที่แล้ว

    I should think thst style matchlock would have been brought to Jamestowne colony in 1607

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes nearly all the jamestown guns are interchangeable with the Plymouth colony

  • @cereal7602
    @cereal7602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was wondering, when you buy a firearm from MilitaryHeritage do they give you an actual manual? I've been thinking about picking something up from their website but would be unsure what proper loads for various arms would be. I'm completely new to black powder shooting.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      the muskets we have purchased do not come with a manual however historical load data is generally not that hard to come by on the web. thank you for watching

    • @SteveAubrey1762
      @SteveAubrey1762 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Real11BangBang ditto. And Robert makes himself available to discuss the firearm. Military heritage is a great place to get a great firelock! I've purchased a pistol from him and have my heart set on two more long arms

  • @bowiebowie3624
    @bowiebowie3624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know why the stock is made so weird looking because they used it as a club that's why it's so thick at the bottom and it's got a wedge so when you smack them across the head it cracked their head wide open like a mace after they fired their shot they swung that sucker around as heavy as it was they used it as a two form of weapon as a club and as a firearm but most of them used it as a club and it was very effective against native Americans but anything else it was a need and worth doing with anything with toward an animal whatever that 75 caliber ball hit it it was pretty much done but they also did one other thing they used a bucking ball and I guarantee you they use the glass marbles anything they could put in that smooth bore and everything to fire at anything that was getting into their way it was perfect firearm in every way and that pod that you used that you were talking about they used that as a spear in everything as well to stab their opponents so it was a very elegant and designed weapon

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep this musket would make an excellent club considering it weights in at around 15 pounds.

  • @quintinroberts8082
    @quintinroberts8082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What powder charge and shot weight were used sorry if it was stated in video

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was using 75 grains of goex FFG and I usually fill my 120 grain powder
      measure with #6

  • @SteveAubrey1762
    @SteveAubrey1762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do U guys make ur own match or buy it? What diameter cord is that?

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i do not recall what size that was but we going to make some more tonight we will try to gat a video out on it

  • @MarioGarcia-pq9pr
    @MarioGarcia-pq9pr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you disassemble the gun to clean it do you take out the breach plug or no?

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I do not personally. I use a worm on the end of my Charleville rammer wrapped in tow

    • @MarioGarcia-pq9pr
      @MarioGarcia-pq9pr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Real11BangBang alright thank you for the information 🙏

  • @mikeborrelli193
    @mikeborrelli193 ปีที่แล้ว

    When used for personel defense against native raiders im curious if these were primarily used as shotguns and loaded with buckshot.. I would think that load would be the most effective when used as a skirmish weapon against irregular combatants such as the Iroquois.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes! john smith actually writes that people coming to the new world should bring swan shot as the natives were not armored

    • @mikeborrelli193
      @mikeborrelli193 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Real11BangBang Thanks for replying, I was thinking 11ga combat shotgun is the most effective way to use that against the fast moving small unit attacks favored by the native Americans. Massively increasing the odds oft making a hit 🎯.. Any deep wound was potentially fatal before antibiotics. Also reload times kinda make you want every charge count for something in the fight. I imagine they also carried some type of saber or cutlass.

    • @mikeborrelli193
      @mikeborrelli193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This thread is making me me realize that we mostly concentrate on Revolutionary war load outs and the Indian wars in the 19th century.. Not much is discussed about the conquest of the Eastern colonies during the 17th and 18th century. People seem to think the whole affair was some Hippie Thanksgiving until the 19th century.

  • @jerryboyle92
    @jerryboyle92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please do not ever lean your head over the muzzle or blow down the barrel. If there was still a smouldering ember from your paper cartridge, blowing down would only fan it up as you add oxygen. Never allow anything to be ahead of the muzzle that you don't intend to kill.

    • @Real11BangBang
      @Real11BangBang  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thank you for the input

    • @mikeborrelli193
      @mikeborrelli193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It' was after he fired the shot. What are you afraid an ember of paper is going to float up from the barrel and light his beard on fire?