When I grew up in Michigan, my parents had a coal furnace in the basement. It heated our 2-bedroom home just fine. As I grew up, I learned how to tend the furnace including when to take out the clinkers (the residue of numerous coal burning days) and how to properly shovel the coal into the furnace without hurting my body (or anything else). I also learned how to make that fire last all night and how to get it going good for the morning. As noted in the video, coal can be dirty. Every spring part of spring-cleaning was washing down the walls to remove the dingy mess from the furnace. The amount of dirt depends upon the quality of the coal. My father loved to build boats--just the ones small enough to fit inside the garage. When he was out working on the latest watercraft, he would heat the uninsulated garage with a kerosene heater. Being the eldest, I was often tasked with helping his endeavors. Dad and I would hang up our jackets after a bit of heating with the kerosene heater because it really put out the heat. We'd only put on our jacket if we needed to go out to tend the pipe where he steamed the wood to make the bent ribs for the boat. And the boat? The family would use it all summer until someone would see the boat and buy it. Dad and I would start the boat building once more when autumn came beginning in the basement where the coal furnace kept us warm until the big parts needed to go out to the garage in late winter. Our house had a fireplace which was used now and then. It wasn't a plain one though. When Dad and Grandpa built the house, they faced it with stone to retain the heat generated. Also built into it what was called back then a heat-o-later which is a system of gathering more heat from the fire and returning to the room with a system of vents (which were not connected to the chimney).
@@sandyp2485 I had a cousin that bought a farm and it had a coal furnace it also had a fan and it heated the whole house even the upstairs you would find a register in the ceiling and open to the upstairs. Like a floor and ceiling register in one. The house was strange had two sets of stairs one on each end of the house. I guess the open was for the coal heat. 73
I love how the Amish find practical, natural solutions for everyday needs. Heating with wood and using passive solar methods shows how resourcefulness and a deep connection to the land can provide warmth and comfort, without the need for modern technology.
They didn’t find anything. It’s a freaking wood stove. Fire. For cavemen it was impressive, now it’s just fire. What a completely insane comment you made there.
I haven't seen this specific design before, but a masonry stove with a secondary combustion chamber for smoke gases is one of the most efficient wood-burning solutions. However, it requires a substantial mass-several tonnes of bricks-for optimal performance. Once properly heated, you only need to burn wood twice a day. Additionally, you can integrate heat pipes into the masonry to provide hot water, further enhancing its functionality.
Nonsense. This is time-tested stuff. We know how it works, and there are reasons we stopped doing it this way. My childhood still had coal stoves as the only available method of heating. Using gas or electricity is cleaner, safer, can be done on a smaller footprint and saves the need to haul around buckets of coal and ash.
I have a old Train wood stove in my trailer and it will run 18 to 24 hours on one load. Turn the vents off and if it doesn't go out your stove is not going to work like mine does. It's got to be air tight no drafts. When it's completely shut down. That's the key to have a good sealed stove and a good draft for chimney 😁👍
We have a pellet stove that we buy about 2.5 ton a year to heat our home. Not quite as economical as wood but it is not as labor is needed either. We spend about $280 to $300 a ton so it is very affordable.
My question is if the grid goes down permanently can you make those pellets? Or what would be Plan B? We just bought our land and going completely off grid. So I'm trying to learn as much as possible.
@@chrisparton3752How do you plan on running your generator without gas? Without electricity, those gas station pumps won't work. If the grid goes down permanently or for even a few months, mass chaos will ensue. Any gas left will be siphoned out until the local government seizes control over the gas stations.
Yes, when I lived there, the Amish used regular wood burning stoves and electric, some have propane tanks to. It's a mix of what they can afford just like every one else.
We are not Amish But we do use woodstoves most are multi functional My uncle even has coils that run through it and heat their water and radiators, All people strive to make efficient ways to accomplish tasks That's what makes humans a step above animals most times 😅
I also knew an Amish farmer that had a milk house that ran on electricity I guess it was because it was required by the Pennsylvania department of health. Amish always follow government laws it has nothing to do with their faith. I replaced a faulty switch on their milk machine. When I was a teen. We always bought milk from them. It was legal in PA. I sure miss the raw milk I drank when I was a teen. The cream was the best part. You had to shake the bottle before serving if you wanted it mixed. When I lived in Oregon you could buy certified raw milk in which it was tested before it was bottled or put in a carton. It was more expensive. 73
Maybe they're not filling their bellies with toxic brain damaging chemicals like the rest of America. What was considered average intelligence in the 1950s is likely above average intelligence today. George Carlin once said, "imagine how stupid the average person is then realizing half of all people are stupider than that."
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The point of this video is how to stay warm without modern gas or electricity companies not whether that the Amish do or don’t do it. Every Amish Community is different like we all are different.
Were you offended by something in this video? I get the impression that you were. If so, please help me understand why, so that I might avoid offending any Amish folks in my area, should I have the pleasure of engaging with them in the future.
Masonary heaters are great for all homes. There are companies that will build you whatever you want. It's a great centerpiece. The coolest masonary heater I've seen is in little cottages in the woods in the coldest parts of Russia. Around the fire box, the general structure is the same, but the chimney travels upstairs and through stone bunk beds, so you put your mattress on the platforms and it'll warm you and your whole room. Amazingly creative and efficient. Typical fires are crazy wasteful. Often they will suck the air out of your house. With a traditional fireplace, definitely at least use glass doors, that helps greatly.
Good ol rural Baptists still use a non fancy cast iron stove too. Firewood is big business in middle TN. If you stay in the country you could sell a rick of mixed hardwood for 60-75$. If you’ll go a little closer to Nashville you can get a dollar a stick.
Selkirk mountains of northern Idaho here. We used to get a logging truck load of Birch lions every 3 years for $1200. Cut and split it ourselves and got about 12 cords of wood. Super efficient good cents 4 bedroom manufactured home with 80% efficient Osburn wood stove. Cost about $400/year to be toasty warm with no special exotic heating system. Super dependable and no electricity needed. Been doing this since 1999.
A 300 foot, 3/4 inch diameter, polyethylene pipe, coil from the farmers coop on your roof facing south, supplys enough hot water to take a shower, every half hour. Depending on the outside temperature, the time of day, the time of the year. AND stuff, but on a low wind day between 10 am & 6 pm, 70 degree day, clear sky, it's a great hot water producer. Cost is a couple hundred bucks to install and it lasts forever. I had a coil on my hot tin roof using stainless steel bailing wire & silicone bath tub sealer to seal the screws that held the bailing wire, that held the coils about 8 inches apart, so the shade of one tube didn't block the sun of the next tube. If I put clear visqueen over it it would probably produce steam on a 90 degree day. If I had a platform in front of the house, painted it black, installed the coil, put old window glass on the coil, ran a pipe under the platform to the center of the coil, and the outside of the coil went into the house and up to the top of a water tank and 10 inches down from the hot water outlet that removed air, the bottom of the tank pipe out would be the pipe under the platform and a T in that pipe is the cold water inlet. Heat rising would fill the tank with FREE hot water FOREVER. I got 3, 120 gallon stainless steal tanks from the garbage dump for FREE and 4, 80 gallon ones, along with the wood and insulation needed to build the platform. Each and every one of us could build such a system. I do stainless steal pipe welding, so it was an easy job for me. You will need some help, so DO IT dude. You gotta love the Amish. They understand the: KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID system. If you don't think it will work, check the hot water in your dark colored garden hose loosely coiled on the drive way on a sunny day.
We live in a 16'x26' cinder block tiny house with the hollows filled in with quickcrete, we heat with medium size potbelly stove using homemade Coffee Bricks and once in a while wood. our house is one big rock that absorbs and stores heat.
The Russians in Siberia, traditionally, had very similar masonry structures built around their wood fired cooking stoves and ovens. They actually have beds built on the structures to maximize the use of the stored heat in the brick (not a lot of stone in Siberia, as I understand it), so they may have been small structures with single room, open floor plans or maybe the cook just got the first pick on where to sleep each night. I don't know, but as the cook in my house, that seems fair to me. I think I saw a similar strategy used in some of the Amish constructions shown in this video.
I use a multifuel stove for coal/ logs. I burn mostly "smokeless brickets" (coal that is crushed, washed and reformed) because of smokeless zones and "net zero" BS here in the UK! I use the logs to cut down on the coal I buy. I live on a canalboat. All steel, 52x6.5. Approx 240sqft living space. Myself, wife, 2 dogs and a cat! I have added extra insulation below the waterline and except in the really coldest of weather our problem is odtenkeeping cool! We have 800W in solar panels and 6x133amp batteriez at 12v. For 10 months of the year we hardly run our engine to generate power. We have a mains power Fridge. Otherwise all our lights are USB or 12v LED. Usb lights provides enough to walk around. We. have some bright 12v spots in work areas. Even in a house you can use usb lights for milliamps rather than big lights for watts of power. I have some enclosed candle lanterns as a back up to the, rechargeable lantern, back ups! As an ex firfighter who has seen a steel boat buckle under the heat generated by it catching fire I dislike open flames intensly!
HERE on this TINY FARM,, WE are lucky,have been BLESSED to be where we're at Today,,to have what we have !! We use have a 500 gal PROPANE tank that runs EVERYTHING!!, Generators on quick Disconnect's, like an air line x 4,, One runs 12,hrs, and the others,are for the day by day,,in a rotation!! Heat lamps for our baby BIRDS actually heat our camping TRAILER, during the Day,with a gas stove and Ashley heater,direct vented out the side of our TINY home,easy to heat! Cover the windows in the winter time BECAUSE of the style window,and skirted ALL AROUND the BOTTOM!! Our water has not frozen in five years of living this WAY!!
The problem with this feature it was used in the 70s and 80s and the amount of wood being used in a large percentage depleted the forest rapidly. Depleting the forest at a rapid speed. Because of the number of wood fires. Remember the amount of farmers per acre is vastly different compared to a city population. Most of the time this idea would be divided between electricity and wood. There were companies that made these sorts of stoves for decades. But because of the amount of wood being burnt. Governments stopped too many homes from using this large amount of wood. This is why it is important to do your research before you suggest something that has already been thought about and tried. Unless there is a new innovative idea that could produce really small amounts of wood being burnt for this purpose.
coal was also used in wood stoves to extend heat source . I would see my Uncle bring in piles of coal straight from the mines for the people who lived on the farm . It would even be used in the summer in a pit to roast a pig or cow in the ground . Never once did I see any roch=ket stove . It was usually pot belly or wood cook stove in the kitchen . Risk of fires was always on everyones mind back then
Lived as a kid with a coal furnace to heat the house in Michigan. Wake up stand on the grates while my Dad shook down the furnace and added coal to bring the house temp back up. It would get COLD at night sometimes. Coal is dirty, black soot on the snow around the house. But at least we had coal for the snowman eyes and mouth.
We had a coal furnace in our musty basement until switched over to oil... coal shute too. Later put a wood stove in our living room, stove pipe out the roof, insulation on back wall...
Omg it’s a wood stove! Absolutely out of this world. I can’t even believe what I’m seeing…and they even had it unvented right in the middle of the living room. Genius. I guess they decided to move it for the actual video so nobody tripped over it and burned themselves.
I built my 3200 sq foot home in California in1986..I over insulated it (2x6 walls and R 60 in the attic)..I put a Lopi wood burning stove in and had solar installed Jan 2020...My utility bill is around $50 per month in the Winter and $25 in the Summer..Other neighbors see $600 t0 $900. bills..Our supplier is very greedy......
Hi, Frugal solutions. I attest to the efficiency of all these heating methods you're talking about in this video because, while I grew up with parents who had left the Amish society and who had become "full Englanders", I experienced frequent vacations at my grandparents' houses --- with my father's parents having their house heated by two kerosene stoves --- one in the bathroom and one in the living room. The kerosene stoves work really well and seem to take a minimum of fuel to keep them going. The 275-gallon kerosene storage tank was located outside the house, with a small network of copper pipes in the basement carrying the fuel to the stoves. I am very interested in survival methods and I miss those stoves as well as those ancient plumbing fixtures which I sort of indirectly grew up with by virtue of my Amish grandparents. The Amish do indeed have effective survival methods.
I've been burning coal for 35 years but I do need electricity to run my stove. Coll has gone up in price these last few years still cheaper than everything else though.
Our Canadian Fishing Camp is on an island 30 miles from the mainland. We have a 75 year old wood burning cast iron heater with a cook top. Only negative is most of the wood we can harvest is soft wood so fire maintenance is sometimes an inconvenience. Biggest concerns are the risk of a fire and carbon monoxide poisoning. Maintenance and Alarm monitoring is critical. Be well.
Just so you know, they did not invent this type of rocket stove. But wise of them to add them on. Actually when it is run correctly, the smoke exhaust end is not that hot. All heat has been utilized in the bench and surrounding earth enclosure.
My parents had a cast iron wood stove. It did have a fan to help circulate hot air in the room. It wasn't as effective as the rocket stove, but it got the job done.
I know a lot of Amish, none of them use this. They mostly use wood stoves or wood cook stoves. I know one Amish that has an uncle that uses coal but he didn’t know where he bought coal around here. The rocket mass stove does sound interesting though.
And when your house burns down just try to collect from your insurance company. It’s getting harder and harder to find insurance companies that want to insure homes with standard heating systems much less a metal barrel with a fire in it in the middle of your home. Good luck
Not Amish and I also do not buy insurance. Not giving up my wood stove and insurance is a complete waste of money for most ppl. I feel like I would be hoping my house burned down if I was paying that much for insurance
Bonus point, diamonds come from heated up coal stones, so when we finish being Amish for the winter we use the diamonds in the bottom of our fireplace to buy new coals. Everything is circlical. Our little Amish community is near Topanga Canyon Calif if Yall'is want to come visit on a hiatus.
My grandparents had a coal stove on the old farm and they could heat the entire 2 story house for a day with just a couple lumps of coal, about the same volume as 3 split logs. Never saw a coal dust problem in or out of the house.
Up till the 1970's, coal fires in UK houses were extremely common, as Britain's industry ran on coal, and an open fire was easy to maintain. As the move to cleaner air began, these open fires moved to multi fuel burners, running on ovoid's to reduce smoke emissions and gas fires as an alternative. But as government control tightens, we now have to pay a fortune to run gas central heating and electric heating. If it can't be taxed, it's illegal.
If I had regular access to wood, I'd totally go wood-burning stove. My gas bill was reaching over $350 per month in the winter. My house is old and poorly insulated. I started using a kerosine heater a few years ago (sometimes with electric space heaters for other rooms) and haven't turned back to natural gas heat, since. The only drawback is I don't leave them running when I'm sleeping or away, but it heats the house pretty quickly. The electricity and kerosine costs don't come near $350 per month.
I wish I could afford to buy books about Amish living. One day we may not have cell phones and modern technology. Its hard trying to soak up all this knowledge ❤
I have a coal stove, I BUY MY COAL FROM PENNSYLVANIA Have little smoke can't see none coming out of the chimney and no smell buy coal it from Pennsylvania and you will have a good hot fire little hard to light but no smell and no smoke
Whatever they are doing works for them. I had a coal fireplace with a water boiler in the back of the fireplace when I lived overseas. It was much cheaper than using electricity to heat. I’ve known two people who burned their homes down with coal and a dirty chimney. If you’re burning anything for heat, keep an eye on it and keep it cleaned up.
Annual or seasonal chimney cleanings are needed for active fireplaces and coal stoves. My family lived in an 1890's farmhouse with a fieldstone foundation, it had a chimney connection for a freestanding wood stove, so we got one, added some heat shielding around it and used it for years without issue. Point being it was cleaned spring and fall, one to eliminate any creosote deposits and one to make sure nothing had moved in over the spring/summer. We moved away and in a year or so the new owners had a chimney fire which gutted the home, it was leveled into the basement and they brought in a mobile home... I think they also destroyed the unique mother in law house out back, no power, no plumbing, my Grandma live in it for a summer before finding a place in the area for herself. Our next house was pretty new at the time(late 70's/early 80's) and came with a double 55gal barrel stove setup so the hot chimney passed inside the upper chamber which allowed collected heat to assist our LP furnace as we had a 500lb propane tank outside and that setup allowed us to get through winter on a single refill in the fall. During the summer we used 80 or 100lb tanks for our kitchen stove.
My heatind and cooling in threw the roof every month. My monthly utility bill fluctuates monthly from $180.00 in one month to over $300.00 or over, the next.
Well I think winter costs for heat is more then Stated. I lived 30 years in Cold Pocono region of Pa I followed the practices outlined in this video. Being a home builder I built my home which was 5000sf plus due to building codes I had to put a propane or electric heat source to pass inspection. Propane would cost me 1000 a month cold months. It was cold from Oct till May. I put an auto feed coal furnace that I could push through 4 floors of water baseboards. All worked by same thermostats which could control propane heater which I had off when using coal. It was an automatic feed pea coal which feed 400 pounds if coal a little at a time down a shoot that air blew on that control burn lowering and raising to heat required. It used about 5 gal bucket of coal per day The coal to keep the home about 70 degrees at a cost of 250 a month. When we used propane we kept house at 65 degrees because it was 4 times what coal cost. The coal unit and plumbing cost me at the time 2007 6000$ It was a big unit I built in garage. I had the skills to do all the labor. One season paid for the unit verse what we paid propane the u it also heated domestic hot water. We also had a large wood stove on main floor in case we lost power or to work with coal furnace on sub zero cold weather which we had In deep winter months. It all worked. I had to keep coal in unit and entry ash bin. But 5 min a day was well worth it. For 15 years it worked great. Then we moved to Tennessee and life in the winter is so much easier.
My ex was obviously adopted* by a family who knew he was Amish . He was adopted in 1954 I would like to find his blood family How do I go about this. He died August 2nd 1998.
I grew up in Amish territory, I've always loved (sarcastically) how the Amish won't use electricity or has but will absolutely use sources harvested from those sources! coal is usuharvested from diesel machines, natural gas harvested from compressed gasoline ect, but God forbidden you just use coal powered electricity
More Americans should take some lessons from the Amish. They are the only true community because they dont have all the stupid wasteful things that we do. They build houses in mere days. If you have a fire the community helps rebuild your house. You dont see this with our society. We choose to divide ourselves over mundane reasons. They stay together for one simple reason, its better that way. Oh dont start with the stonings or shunning while you cannot produce one ethnicity or religion who hasnt done worse.
The Amish use either horse poop or cow meadow muffins dried up to heat the ole homestead. ON rare occasions, the whole family eats a healthy portion of beans and then take turns lighting each other's farts. AH, good clean energy!
Not an amish design it works but theres alway a but these things are illegal, ok for them but in most countries like my country Australia these are very much against local laws. We cant even have a good old pot-belly stove in the near future all wood heater will be band in most states in Australia or will be soon
There are two but not alike. You have the amish that have strictor rules than a Mennonite both apeare the same but its ok to drive if you are a Mennonite. They also use electric. i remember the last trip or so to PA i found a Mennonite church. i liooked up thier customs and found the differenses. As for the rocket stove there is a lot of construction needed that i wasnt aware of. I seen videos on rocket stoves but never seen the full chimey part. i dont see i would need one like that a drum stove is more ecnomic to build. 73
Dude, every time you post one of these Amish videos you initially show people who obviously aren't Amish. I don't know who they represent. I'm not saying the information you present is false. But some people get the idea it is, or think the Amish are something they aren't. Can't you get clips or pix of real Amish people? It would enhance your credibility.
A lot of Amish people do not want to be on camera, so I’m guessing finding pictures could be tough. Though, I’m not sure if this is how they heat, I can say, a fire definitely is my favorite way to heat a home!
@egwthe1 That's not exactly true. I've seen Amish in photos an on videos. It's a personal choice. But, as I understand it, most choose not to be. And there may be some districts that discourage or even prohibit it.
This is the same systems that have been used for centuries in Russia. A rocket stove with a cook top and large stone masses that radiate heat thru-out the house.
Maybe not but i dont see that type of stove being againt their faith. Rocket stoves are a new tyoe it wasnt know like thet are today. i remeber the drum stoves that were used to heat the barns. Its just a wood stove. More and more i see amish becoming more modern. They now work in factories because more money is needed to live on. I remember the mother making home made ice cream and used a motorized churn. They also had a telephone. they did have a gas refrigerator. I dont see why they cannot make a gas milk machine. I guess the churn needs a motor. 73
Why in the world doesn't he just say 'hurricane lamps?" I mean for real. Look like them to me. And coal is grossly underrated. Very efficient $1 for $1
Great if you work from home. Because it needs to be monitored often. And just a few stick, LOL. Then you start on about using coal that burns much longer.
I'm 74 and disabled. I live in a townhouse apartment. I have no clue how to install any of these. I don't have the money to install any. The co-op I live in would not allow it anyway I guess I'll just freeze if the heat goes out.
Kinda hard to burn wood with no chimney or fireplace. No new buildings will have them either. Also in order to source wood in the city ,it costs more than PG&E in most cases.
They live in caveman days,try solar heating to heat the house an barn during sunny days. It might not look good on the house but works...save time, money,resources....an labor 💖
WRONG! It is NOT free like you claim and knowing you you just go and take it. Here in Texas you pull that crap and they catch you you will go to jail for theft. The grease dumps are NOT for you to help yourself, it is NOT put out there for anyone but the companies that already gave a contract to pick that oil up in which they already paid and have a contract with the businesses.
When I grew up in Michigan, my parents had a coal furnace in the basement. It heated our 2-bedroom home just fine. As I grew up, I learned how to tend the furnace including when to take out the clinkers (the residue of numerous coal burning days) and how to properly shovel the coal into the furnace without hurting my body (or anything else). I also learned how to make that fire last all night and how to get it going good for the morning. As noted in the video, coal can be dirty. Every spring part of spring-cleaning was washing down the walls to remove the dingy mess from the furnace. The amount of dirt depends upon the quality of the coal.
My father loved to build boats--just the ones small enough to fit inside the garage. When he was out working on the latest watercraft, he would heat the uninsulated garage with a kerosene heater. Being the eldest, I was often tasked with helping his endeavors. Dad and I would hang up our jackets after a bit of heating with the kerosene heater because it really put out the heat. We'd only put on our jacket if we needed to go out to tend the pipe where he steamed the wood to make the bent ribs for the boat. And the boat? The family would use it all summer until someone would see the boat and buy it. Dad and I would start the boat building once more when autumn came beginning in the basement where the coal furnace kept us warm until the big parts needed to go out to the garage in late winter.
Our house had a fireplace which was used now and then. It wasn't a plain one though. When Dad and Grandpa built the house, they faced it with stone to retain the heat generated. Also built into it what was called back then a heat-o-later which is a system of gathering more heat from the fire and returning to the room with a system of vents (which were not connected to the chimney).
Thanks for the story very interesting
You were so lucky to have these experiences during your childhood. Thanks for sharing.
@@mel3004 As a kid, I didn't think it was so much fun. I do appreciate it as an adult.
I bet that was a gravity octopus furnace. Used to be one in my house. And a coal bin.
@@sandyp2485 I had a cousin that bought a farm and it had a coal furnace it also had a fan and it heated the whole house even the upstairs you would find a register in the ceiling and open to the upstairs. Like a floor and ceiling register in one. The house was strange had two sets of stairs one on each end of the house. I guess the open was for the coal heat. 73
I love how the Amish find practical, natural solutions for everyday needs. Heating with wood and using passive solar methods shows how resourcefulness and a deep connection to the land can provide warmth and comfort, without the need for modern technology.
Yet here you are using modern technology you're a hypocrite
The commenter said how they like how the "Amish" is naturally resourceful...@@th-cc6ei
They didn’t find anything. It’s a freaking wood stove. Fire. For cavemen it was impressive, now it’s just fire. What a completely insane comment you made there.
You never see an Amish grave yard as they just stack dead granny on the andirons in the winter.
I haven't seen this specific design before, but a masonry stove with a secondary combustion chamber for smoke gases is one of the most efficient wood-burning solutions. However, it requires a substantial mass-several tonnes of bricks-for optimal performance. Once properly heated, you only need to burn wood twice a day. Additionally, you can integrate heat pipes into the masonry to provide hot water, further enhancing its functionality.
These people are brilliant and they can teach us so much!
yeah, like animal abuse too!
They live like people did in the medieval period. Not sure if that's something we should aspire to.
@@lindanorris2455name one religion or race who has not been cruel to animals? You can't. You should not use make up since it gets tested on animals.
Nonsense. This is time-tested stuff. We know how it works, and there are reasons we stopped doing it this way. My childhood still had coal stoves as the only available method of heating. Using gas or electricity is cleaner, safer, can be done on a smaller footprint and saves the need to haul around buckets of coal and ash.
Yeah,because nobody ever heated with wood before...or stil does 🙄🙄🙄
I have a old Train wood stove in my trailer and it will run 18 to 24 hours on one load. Turn the vents off and if it doesn't go out your stove is not going to work like mine does. It's got to be air tight no drafts. When it's completely shut down. That's the key to have a good sealed stove and a good draft for chimney 😁👍
We have a pellet stove that we buy about 2.5 ton a year to heat our home. Not quite as economical as wood but it is not as labor is needed either. We spend about $280 to $300 a ton so it is very affordable.
Except that you need electricity to run it. That must be taken into account. A solar setup would help. It was alright except for that.
My question is if the grid goes down permanently can you make those pellets? Or what would be Plan B? We just bought our land and going completely off grid. So I'm trying to learn as much as possible.
@@sandys.1891I have a generator for that issue.
@@chrisparton3752 That makes sense. Thank you for taking the time to answer my question.
@@chrisparton3752How do you plan on running your generator without gas? Without electricity, those gas station pumps won't work. If the grid goes down permanently or for even a few months, mass chaos will ensue. Any gas left will be siphoned out until the local government seizes control over the gas stations.
In Wisconsin, some of the Amish have electricity. Some have lights on their buggies now. And some are very traditional.
Yes, when I lived there, the Amish used regular wood burning stoves and electric, some have propane tanks to. It's a mix of what they can afford just like every one else.
Not all Mennonites are Amish, but all Amish are Mennonite
They aren't true Amish then
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Tell them that. There are many different “clans” new school and old school.
Mennonite have electric n lights, Amish do not .
We are not Amish But we do use woodstoves most are multi functional My uncle even has coils that run through it and heat their water and radiators, All people strive to make efficient ways to accomplish tasks That's what makes humans a step above animals most times 😅
When we bought our house it had a wood stove in it. We replaced it with a central heating and air system. Years later I really regret that.
FALSE! The Amish don't use rocket stoves. They use regular woos stoves. This sight assumes that you know nothing of Amish culture.
I also knew an Amish farmer that had a milk house that ran on electricity I guess it was because it was required by the Pennsylvania department of health. Amish always follow government laws it has nothing to do with their faith. I replaced a faulty switch on their milk machine. When I was a teen. We always bought milk from them. It was legal in PA. I sure miss the raw milk I drank when I was a teen. The cream was the best part. You had to shake the bottle before serving if you wanted it mixed. When I lived in Oregon you could buy certified raw milk in which it was tested before it was bottled or put in a carton. It was more expensive. 73
You my dear are the one saying FALSE things now😂
@@ronb6182they run it with gas generators
I love how people assume their experience applies to everyone everywhere. Perhaps you don’t know everything?
I like rocket stove best. What do u think about it?
I like how the Amish look at the heating properties of wood.....it heats them twice...no need for a gym...👍
Amish people are very smart intelligent people now that's a good way to heat your house... They save a lot of money
Maybe they're not filling their bellies with toxic brain damaging chemicals like the rest of America. What was considered average intelligence in the 1950s is likely above average intelligence today. George Carlin once said, "imagine how stupid the average person is then realizing half of all people are stupider than that."
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I have designed a rocket stove with a 12v pump heats my whole home.... Had a snag but its sorted im warm on pennies.....
The point of this video is how to stay warm without modern gas or electricity companies not whether that the Amish do or don’t do it. Every Amish Community is different like we all are different.
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Were you offended by something in this video? I get the impression that you were. If so, please help me understand why, so that I might avoid offending any Amish folks in my area, should I have the pleasure of engaging with them in the future.
@@mrhalfstepI think this poster was referring to comments and arguments in the comments not the video.
He keeps saying that the Amish do this. Fact: no we don't. I grew up Amish across a number of communities and still involved
Masonary heaters are great for all homes. There are companies that will build you whatever you want. It's a great centerpiece.
The coolest masonary heater I've seen is in little cottages in the woods in the coldest parts of Russia.
Around the fire box, the general structure is the same, but the chimney travels upstairs and through stone bunk beds, so you put your mattress on the platforms and it'll warm you and your whole room.
Amazingly creative and efficient.
Typical fires are crazy wasteful. Often they will suck the air out of your house. With a traditional fireplace, definitely at least use glass doors, that helps greatly.
Good ol rural Baptists still use a non fancy cast iron stove too. Firewood is big business in middle TN. If you stay in the country you could sell a rick of mixed hardwood for 60-75$. If you’ll go a little closer to Nashville you can get a dollar a stick.
Selkirk mountains of northern Idaho here. We used to get a logging truck load of Birch lions every 3 years for $1200. Cut and split it ourselves and got about 12 cords of wood. Super efficient good cents 4 bedroom manufactured home with 80% efficient Osburn wood stove. Cost about $400/year to be toasty warm with no special exotic heating system. Super dependable and no electricity needed. Been doing this since 1999.
A 300 foot, 3/4 inch diameter, polyethylene pipe, coil from the farmers coop on your roof facing south, supplys enough hot water to take a shower, every half hour.
Depending on the outside temperature, the time of day, the time of the year. AND stuff, but on a low wind day between 10 am & 6 pm, 70 degree day, clear sky, it's a great hot water producer. Cost is a couple hundred bucks to install and it lasts forever. I had a coil on my hot tin roof using stainless steel bailing wire & silicone bath tub sealer to seal the screws that held the bailing wire, that held the coils about 8 inches apart, so the shade of one tube didn't block the sun of the next tube. If I put clear visqueen over it it would probably produce steam on a 90 degree day. If I had a platform in front of the house, painted it black, installed the coil, put old window glass on the coil, ran a pipe under the platform to the center of the coil, and the outside of the coil went into the house and up to the top of a water tank and 10 inches down from the hot water outlet that removed air, the bottom of the tank pipe out would be the pipe under the platform and a T in that pipe is the cold water inlet. Heat rising would fill the tank with FREE hot water FOREVER. I got 3, 120 gallon stainless steal tanks from the garbage dump for FREE and 4, 80 gallon ones, along with the wood and insulation needed to build the platform. Each and every one of us could build such a system. I do stainless steal pipe welding, so it was an easy job for me. You will need some help, so DO IT dude. You gotta love the Amish. They understand the: KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID system.
If you don't think it will work, check the hot water in your dark colored garden hose loosely coiled on the drive way on a sunny day.
You just gave me a lot to think about. Been trying to figure out hot water off-grid. Thank you.
We live in a 16'x26' cinder block tiny house with the hollows filled in with quickcrete, we heat with medium size potbelly stove using homemade Coffee Bricks and once in a while wood. our house is one big rock that absorbs and stores heat.
The Russians in Siberia, traditionally, had very similar masonry structures built around their wood fired cooking stoves and ovens. They actually have beds built on the structures to maximize the use of the stored heat in the brick (not a lot of stone in Siberia, as I understand it), so they may have been small structures with single room, open floor plans or maybe the cook just got the first pick on where to sleep each night. I don't know, but as the cook in my house, that seems fair to me. I think I saw a similar strategy used in some of the Amish constructions shown in this video.
We had a Franklin stove in our family room. Mom did the research on this efficient heating system. Folks aged & house was sold.
I use a multifuel stove for coal/ logs. I burn mostly "smokeless brickets" (coal that is crushed, washed and reformed) because of smokeless zones and "net zero" BS here in the UK! I use the logs to cut down on the coal I buy. I live on a canalboat. All steel, 52x6.5. Approx 240sqft living space.
Myself, wife, 2 dogs and a cat!
I have added extra insulation below the waterline and except in the really coldest of weather our problem is odtenkeeping cool!
We have 800W in solar panels and 6x133amp batteriez at 12v. For 10 months of the year we hardly run our engine to generate power. We have a mains power Fridge. Otherwise all our lights are USB or 12v LED. Usb lights provides enough to walk around. We. have some bright 12v spots in work areas. Even in a house you can use usb lights for milliamps rather than big lights for watts of power.
I have some enclosed candle lanterns as a back up to the, rechargeable lantern, back ups! As an ex firfighter who has seen a steel boat buckle under the heat generated by it catching fire I dislike open flames intensly!
HERE on this TINY FARM,, WE are lucky,have been BLESSED to be where we're at Today,,to have what we have !!
We use have a 500 gal PROPANE tank that runs EVERYTHING!!,
Generators on quick Disconnect's, like an air line x 4,, One runs 12,hrs, and the others,are for the day by day,,in a rotation!! Heat lamps for our baby BIRDS actually heat our camping TRAILER, during the Day,with a gas stove and Ashley heater,direct vented out the side of our TINY home,easy to heat! Cover the windows in the winter time BECAUSE of the style window,and skirted ALL AROUND the BOTTOM!! Our water has not frozen in five years of living this WAY!!
The problem with this feature it was used in the 70s and 80s and the amount of wood being used in a large percentage depleted the forest rapidly. Depleting the forest at a rapid speed. Because of the number of wood fires. Remember the amount of farmers per acre is vastly different compared to a city population. Most of the time this idea would be divided between electricity and wood. There were companies that made these sorts of stoves for decades. But because of the amount of wood being burnt. Governments stopped too many homes from using this large amount of wood. This is why it is important to do your research before you suggest something that has already been thought about and tried. Unless there is a new innovative idea that could produce really small amounts of wood being burnt for this purpose.
coal was also used in wood stoves to extend heat source . I would see my Uncle bring in piles of coal straight from the mines for the people who lived on the farm . It would even be used in the summer in a pit to roast a pig or cow in the ground . Never once did I see any roch=ket stove . It was usually pot belly or wood cook stove in the kitchen . Risk of fires was always on everyones mind back then
Lived as a kid with a coal furnace to heat the house in Michigan. Wake up stand on the grates while my Dad shook down the furnace and added coal to bring the house temp back up. It would get COLD at night sometimes. Coal is dirty, black soot on the snow around the house. But at least we had coal for the snowman eyes and mouth.
Cool story.
We had a coal stove in living room when I was very young, coal shute in side of the house
We had a coal furnace in our musty basement until switched over to oil... coal shute too. Later put a wood stove in our living room, stove pipe out the roof, insulation on back wall...
Omg it’s a wood stove! Absolutely out of this world. I can’t even believe what I’m seeing…and they even had it unvented right in the middle of the living room. Genius. I guess they decided to move it for the actual video so nobody tripped over it and burned themselves.
New wood stove, keeps house warm. Furnace hardly ever turns on 😀
In my country it became forbidden. Some people with asthma had irritated throats. So now it's forbidden
Rocket mass heaters have been promoted by homesteaders for years. Plus the Amish use regular wood stoves
I built my 3200 sq foot home in California in1986..I over insulated it (2x6 walls and R 60 in the attic)..I put a Lopi wood burning stove in and had solar installed Jan 2020...My utility bill is around $50 per month in the Winter and $25 in the Summer..Other neighbors see $600 t0 $900. bills..Our supplier is very greedy......
Hi, Frugal solutions. I attest to the efficiency of all these heating methods you're talking about in this video because, while I grew up with parents who had left the Amish society and who had become "full Englanders", I experienced frequent vacations at my grandparents' houses --- with my father's parents having their house heated by two kerosene stoves --- one in the bathroom and one in the living room. The kerosene stoves work really well and seem to take a minimum of fuel to keep them going. The 275-gallon kerosene storage tank was located outside the house, with a small network of copper pipes in the basement carrying the fuel to the stoves. I am very interested in survival methods and I miss those stoves as well as those ancient plumbing fixtures which I sort of indirectly grew up with by virtue of my Amish grandparents. The Amish do indeed have effective survival methods.
I've been burning coal for 35 years but I do need electricity to run my stove. Coll has gone up in price these last few years still cheaper than everything else though.
Our Canadian Fishing Camp is on an island 30 miles from the mainland. We have a 75 year old wood burning cast iron heater with a cook top. Only negative is most of the wood we can harvest is soft wood so fire maintenance is sometimes an inconvenience.
Biggest concerns are the risk of a fire and carbon monoxide poisoning. Maintenance and Alarm monitoring is critical.
Be well.
Just so you know, they did not invent this type of rocket stove. But wise of them to add them on. Actually when it is run correctly, the smoke exhaust end is not that hot. All heat has been utilized in the bench and surrounding earth enclosure.
I actually work with the Amish EVERYDAY they are the happiest people on earth they all hear and kook with wood and they don't use no rocket stove 😮😮😮
They are notorious for child abuse, domestic abuse and abusing animals
Yepsolutely.
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They are notorious for abusing women, children and animals
My parents had a cast iron wood stove. It did have a fan to help circulate hot air in the room. It wasn't as effective as the rocket stove, but it got the job done.
I know a lot of Amish, none of them use this. They mostly use wood stoves or wood cook stoves. I know one Amish that has an uncle that uses coal but he didn’t know where he bought coal around here. The rocket mass stove does sound interesting though.
And when your house burns down just try to collect from your insurance company. It’s getting harder and harder to find insurance companies that want to insure homes with standard heating systems much less a metal barrel with a fire in it in the middle of your home. Good luck
Insurance companies aren't fond of heating stoves.
Not a issue for Amish. They do not buy insurance
Too bad so sad
Not Amish and I also do not buy insurance. Not giving up my wood stove and insurance is a complete waste of money for most ppl. I feel like I would be hoping my house burned down if I was paying that much for insurance
Bonus point, diamonds come from heated up coal stones, so when we finish being Amish for the winter we use the diamonds in the bottom of our fireplace to buy new coals. Everything is circlical. Our little Amish community is near Topanga Canyon Calif if Yall'is want to come visit on a hiatus.
I especially like the non electric ceiling fan in the thumbnail
My grandparents had a coal stove on the old farm and they could heat the entire 2 story house for a day with just a couple lumps of coal, about the same volume as 3 split logs. Never saw a coal dust problem in or out of the house.
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Up till the 1970's, coal fires in UK houses were extremely common, as Britain's industry ran on coal, and an open fire was easy to maintain. As the move to cleaner air began, these open fires moved to multi fuel burners, running on ovoid's to reduce smoke emissions and gas fires as an alternative. But as government control tightens, we now have to pay a fortune to run gas central heating and electric heating. If it can't be taxed, it's illegal.
If I had regular access to wood, I'd totally go wood-burning stove. My gas bill was reaching over $350 per month in the winter. My house is old and poorly insulated. I started using a kerosine heater a few years ago (sometimes with electric space heaters for other rooms) and haven't turned back to natural gas heat, since. The only drawback is I don't leave them running when I'm sleeping or away, but it heats the house pretty quickly. The electricity and kerosine costs don't come near $350 per month.
I wish I could afford to buy books about Amish living. One day we may not have cell phones and modern technology. Its hard trying to soak up all this knowledge ❤
I have a coal stove, I BUY MY COAL FROM PENNSYLVANIA Have little smoke can't see none coming out of the chimney and no smell buy coal it from Pennsylvania and you will have a good hot fire little hard to light but no smell and no smoke
Whatever they are doing works for them. I had a coal fireplace with a water boiler in the back of the fireplace when I lived overseas. It was much cheaper than using electricity to heat. I’ve known two people who burned their homes down with coal and a dirty chimney. If you’re burning anything for heat, keep an eye on it and keep it cleaned up.
Annual or seasonal chimney cleanings are needed for active fireplaces and coal stoves. My family lived in an 1890's farmhouse with a fieldstone foundation, it had a chimney connection for a freestanding wood stove, so we got one, added some heat shielding around it and used it for years without issue. Point being it was cleaned spring and fall, one to eliminate any creosote deposits and one to make sure nothing had moved in over the spring/summer. We moved away and in a year or so the new owners had a chimney fire which gutted the home, it was leveled into the basement and they brought in a mobile home... I think they also destroyed the unique mother in law house out back, no power, no plumbing, my Grandma live in it for a summer before finding a place in the area for herself. Our next house was pretty new at the time(late 70's/early 80's) and came with a double 55gal barrel stove setup so the hot chimney passed inside the upper chamber which allowed collected heat to assist our LP furnace as we had a 500lb propane tank outside and that setup allowed us to get through winter on a single refill in the fall. During the summer we used 80 or 100lb tanks for our kitchen stove.
I love learning from Amish I use lantern light
I can cook on stove that out side.
They don't use these rocket stoves and they don't use coal
Conventional heater keep homeowner worry about their electric bill at end of month, while'Amish Heater' kept Amish family go to sleep worry -free.
My heatind and cooling in threw the roof every month. My monthly utility bill fluctuates monthly from $180.00 in one month to over $300.00 or over, the next.
It's a PM 2.5 NIGHTMARE, but oh, it's cozy.
The principle still work, extracting heat from the flue as well as cooking on a flat bed.
Well I think winter costs for heat is more then Stated.
I lived 30 years in Cold Pocono region of Pa
I followed the practices outlined in this video. Being a home builder I built my home which was 5000sf plus due to building codes I had to put a propane or electric heat source to pass inspection. Propane would cost me 1000 a month cold months. It was cold from Oct till May. I put an auto feed coal furnace that I could push through 4 floors of water baseboards. All worked by same thermostats which could control propane heater which I had off when using coal. It was an automatic feed pea coal which feed 400 pounds if coal a little at a time down a shoot that air blew on that control burn lowering and raising to heat required. It used about 5 gal bucket of coal per day
The coal to keep the home about 70 degrees at a cost of 250 a month. When we used propane we kept house at 65 degrees because it was 4 times what coal cost. The coal unit and plumbing cost me at the time 2007 6000$ It was a big unit I built in garage. I had the skills to do all the labor. One season paid for the unit verse what we paid propane the u it also heated domestic hot water. We also had a large wood stove on main floor in case we lost power or to work with coal furnace on sub zero cold weather which we had In deep winter months. It all worked. I had to keep coal in unit and entry ash bin. But 5 min a day was well worth it. For 15 years it worked great. Then we moved to Tennessee and life in the winter is so much easier.
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If the lanterns aren't necessarily needed for the light you can put clay pots on it that would radiate heat for quite a long time
It takes more firewood than this video says
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These people know what they’re doing
Since when do Amish allow graven images?
My ex was obviously adopted* by a family who knew he was Amish . He was adopted in 1954 I would like to find his blood family How do I go about this. He died August 2nd 1998.
I grew up in Amish territory, I've always loved (sarcastically) how the Amish won't use electricity or has but will absolutely use sources harvested from those sources!
coal is usuharvested from diesel machines, natural gas harvested from compressed gasoline ect, but God forbidden you just use coal powered electricity
More Americans should take some lessons from the Amish. They are the only true community because they dont have all the stupid wasteful things that we do. They build houses in mere days. If you have a fire the community helps rebuild your house. You dont see this with our society. We choose to divide ourselves over mundane reasons. They stay together for one simple reason, its better that way. Oh dont start with the stonings or shunning while you cannot produce one ethnicity or religion who hasnt done worse.
$100-$150/ton for coal? Tell me where! This year the best price I found here near Binghamton NY is $400/ton for Lehigh Valley PA rice coal.
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The Amish use either horse poop or cow meadow muffins dried up to heat the ole homestead.
ON rare occasions, the whole family eats a healthy portion of beans and then take turns lighting each other's farts.
AH, good clean energy!
The irony of showing a ELECTRIC heating element being used ti start a coal fire while talking of the Amish
Saving and sharing this one!!!!❤
Some use electricity and gas heat in Canada 🇨🇦
Christmas Eve I had to have my oil boiler replaced to the tune of $7,237.
The Amish people no
Change live like Amish .I do.
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Many amish in WI use propane for cooking, heating and lighting.
Actually people should know how to survive in a dire situation... unless you're just going to give up but that's your decision
Not an amish design it works but theres alway a but these things are illegal, ok for them but in most countries like my country Australia these are very much against local laws. We cant even have a good old pot-belly stove in the near future all wood heater will be band in most states in Australia or will be soon
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There are two but not alike. You have the amish that have strictor rules than a Mennonite both apeare the same but its ok to drive if you are a Mennonite. They also use electric. i remember the last trip or so to PA i found a Mennonite church. i liooked up thier customs and found the differenses. As for the rocket stove there is a lot of construction needed that i wasnt aware of. I seen videos on rocket stoves but never seen the full chimey part. i dont see i would need one like that a drum stove is more ecnomic to build. 73
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We had two wood stoves when I was a kid🪓🪵
Dude, every time you post one of these Amish videos you initially show people who obviously aren't Amish. I don't know who they represent. I'm not saying the information you present is false. But some people get the idea it is, or think the Amish are something they aren't. Can't you get clips or pix of real Amish people? It would enhance your credibility.
You don't know a thing about the Amish..I live beside Amish your channel is wrong
@twlghtangel8922 I don't have a channel. So, are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? You're not making much sense.
A lot of Amish people do not want to be on camera, so I’m guessing finding pictures could be tough. Though, I’m not sure if this is how they heat, I can say, a fire definitely is my favorite way to heat a home!
Real Amish will never be on photos or recorded video nothing they refuse to be recorded.
@egwthe1 That's not exactly true. I've seen Amish in photos an on videos. It's a personal choice. But, as I understand it, most choose not to be. And there may be some districts that discourage or even prohibit it.
Being used to being cold probably helps too. Just ask the Eskimos
Today,insurance companies don’t want wood burn fireplace etc. Finding someone to repair or install is almost impossible.
Very nice !
They sure don't treat their horses right!😢
I always say if you don’t live right you’ll come back as an Amish horse 😆
This is the same systems that have been used for centuries in Russia. A rocket stove with a cook top and large stone masses that radiate heat thru-out the house.
They know their stuff well.
Maybe not but i dont see that type of stove being againt their faith. Rocket stoves are a new tyoe it wasnt know like thet are today. i remeber the drum stoves that were used to heat the barns. Its just a wood stove. More and more i see amish becoming more modern. They now work in factories because more money is needed to live on. I remember the mother making home made ice cream and used a motorized churn. They also had a telephone. they did have a gas refrigerator. I dont see why they cannot make a gas milk machine. I guess the churn needs a motor. 73
Almost no one !…gets the stove up off the floor,2 or 3 feet, which makes it easier to clean and feed ! !
Why in the world doesn't he just say 'hurricane lamps?" I mean for real. Look like them to me. And coal is grossly underrated. Very efficient $1 for $1
Beautiful stone massonary heaters
Great if you work from home. Because it needs to be monitored often. And just a few stick, LOL. Then you start on about using coal that burns much longer.
I'm 74 and disabled. I live in a townhouse apartment. I have no clue how to install any of these. I don't have the money to install any. The co-op I live in would not allow it anyway I guess I'll just freeze if the heat goes out.
The Amish homes around me all have propane tanks so I am sure that is what they use for heat
What about the Amish allows them to use a battery operated drill as in your vudeo.
Good video.thank you.!
I don't have to do anything but set the temperature. I fed fireplaces in my childhood. I have no desire to do it daily!
I'm questioning this. I am looking at slow burn and gasification with a generator to run heat and backup electrical.
A hearth 😂😂😂???
I love it
Kinda hard to burn wood with no chimney or fireplace. No new buildings will have them either. Also in order to source wood in the city ,it costs more than PG&E in most cases.
Love how the Amish didn't develop anything presented here
They live in caveman days,try solar heating to heat the house an barn during sunny days. It might not look good on the house but works...save time, money,resources....an labor 💖
The vegetable oil in the Grease dumpsters all over town is free! Turns out Grease realy is the word!😂❤
WRONG! It is NOT free like you claim and knowing you you just go and take it. Here in Texas you pull that crap and they catch you you will go to jail for theft. The grease dumps are NOT for you to help yourself, it is NOT put out there for anyone but the companies that already gave a contract to pick that oil up in which they already paid and have a contract with the businesses.