I love the fact that you picks not just any smp creators but creators from different sides of the smp space, it's always nice to get more than one perspective on these type of questions
It's so interesting seeing how the opinions differ based on the side of smp space each creator is in. Absolutely amazing concept, thank you guys for putting this together!
i personally have an SMP, which it's main whole thing is just to have fun playing with my friends. and whatever happens happens. i wish more SMPs were less copy pastes and more original ideas. all these clone smps just muddy the waters and make it hard to find truly good smps.
This is a really interesting video! I do wonder how the opinions may shift as you look more towards smaller creators and stuff and definitely some of the reasoning behind those views. Like for me when I heard the question asking if it's hard to find unique SMPs, my reasoning for saying yes was more about how a lot of smaller creators (so people in my general area) are very scared to try new things or just generally don't have the ability to make them a reality because smaller creators tend to have less time or expendable resources to put into it. I also think there's a lot of difficulty finding people for an SMP as I've seen behind the scenes of working on smaller SMPs, your biggest issue is finding people with the right personality to not be "problematic" as the best word I can think of. We've had to remove several people from SMPs for being fairly toxic behind the scenes and stuff or generally having the wrong mindset for what the SMP is about because they see all the massive spectacle creators doing well and want to bring that into a server designed to be a lot more calm. I think if you looked at SMPs with more popular creators, you wouldn't get that because to put it simply, the type of people you don't want on your SMP have been "filtered out" by the TH-cam audience. We have to do extensive checks on some creators to make sure they absolutely are not a bad person or the wrong fit for an SMP because there's no way to know what their personality may be outside of their content. However when it comes to larger channels, I think it's easier to find the right fit for a server because the people that don't have that personality that works well simply don't make it to that popularity. That was a very long comment to say I'd be interested to see the opinions vary between different creator sizes and stuff.
time to go a little bit ham in the comments because there's one question i have a lot of feelings on -- specifically, i feel like "SMPs are a lot more fun when lore is involved" is a really interesting question and a little bit loaded, mostly because the definition of "lore" within the MCYT space is so broad as to include basically anything narrative: - "my build is inspired by Dungeons & Dragons and i think a wizard would live in it" - "i'm making a gigantic creative mode build based on the novel i'm writing" - "i had to cheat in items because a recipe was broken and i want an interesting way to justify that in the video" - "here's some story framing to make backend admin stuff look more unique" - "i have a funny bit/interesting challenge in mind and now that's seen as part of my character" - "i made a cool skin themed around this biome i think is neat" - "i have written a cohesive backstory for this specific character for an intensely story-focused SMP" - "there's a competition and i want to draw up a plan for my team to win it" - "i keep running into one very specific type of thing, despite the fact that it's supposed to be rare" - "i thought it'd be fun to just start up a stream and improvise a villain monologue because i'm bored" - "people like drama so i'm going to ham up a fake grudge between me and the friend that punched me off a cliff on impulse" when you get right down to it, the second you sit down in front of a computer and start making a Minecraft video, you're telling a story and building a narrative. even if you're in singleplayer, even if you despise the word _lore,_ even if you're just making bottom-feeder clickbait content... the framing of the video, the way you choose to say things, and the things you choose to leave in or leave out all contribute to an overall narrative -- and again, Narrative and Lore are often treated as the same thing in the SMP space -- so you can't really put a group of people in the same room and expect there _not_ to be some kind of story. so, are SMPs "more fun when lore is involved?" probably not in terms of more rigidly-defined "your character is this and they do this" or "the story of the world is this because of these things" lore, but... given the definition of "lore" to mean just about anything narrative, they kind of _have_ to be. ultimately, Minecraft is a sandbox game -- and if you take out everything falling under the broad category of Lore, all you're left with is an extremely janky 3D modeling program.
I so agree with this. Lore is fun in small dosages. Crafting little naratives such as a cute fairy cottage, mermaid palaces, wizard towers etc. I love inventing smaller stories and more compact lore. But something I never really enjoy was such overarching lore, where every action is preplanned and its a story. I write creative fiction, it's not that I don't like a story, but a point of SMPs is to go on a minecraft server and just talk and have fun with your friends, and I really don't think that achievable with every single preplanned action because its not a movie but it feels just like minecraft. I think an SMP that really did well in blending it was Witchcraft SMP and a bigger one would be Hermitcraft SMP. Of course, witchcraft was almost entiremly crafted from lores, but I don't think anyone knew going in who was going to actually win, but rather just wanted to work together to build narative as it goes and explore the magic of the world.
Personally as an SMP content creator, I’ve owned many SMPs but only streamed on a couple. I come from the bedrock SMP space, everyone’s much nicer on this side of the community in my opinion! The java side, which I’ve also been part of, was harsh to me and many people due to the DreamSMP and stuff like that. Long story short go with what SMP you love and stick to it, create your own and whatnot! But hey, what am I saying? I come from twitch lmao.
Great questions, and fascinating to see the differences between PVP SMP creators and Survival SMP creators (I couldn’t think of a better term that encompasses builders, redstoners, etc.). Really well made video, I had no idea you could get non-mcsr people on lol
I definitely learned a lot from this, tho Im yet to watch an SMP video in months (also, I think this concept with some MC event players would work really great as well)
damn the only smps I've watched mentioned are hermitcraft and empires. I've never even heard of the others, except dsmp, I've heard of that one. I only know Lizzie, are the others in the same circle or different circles as well?
I appreciate this video for giving us the point of views from different content creators, but the way the audio has been edited is driving me crazy. I understand the idea of removing long pauses in speech, but it sounds like each word has been edited from a different line of dialogue thenmashedtogetherintoonebigsentancewithoutanygapswhichisreallyannoying.
Lifesteal is a different "circle"or "niche" of smp content compared to something like hermitcraft or dream smp. So the mass majority doesnt know it as much
Lifesteal is a pretty cool SMP, if you want to get into it I would highly recommend Branzy but if you are more interested in the pvp aspect of it then ClownPierce's casino video and ClownPierce's "How I died on the Deadliest SMP" are my favourites
@@PyroAxolotlDragon whole season 2 is a great way to start watching lifesteal. Watching season 5 now can be a little complicated but branzy uploads banger content nowadays.
He's created multiple SMPs. VibeSMP, joined his friend Fantst's SMP: The NemesisSMP, and then after those 2 servers were gone, the two made the BizarreSMP. Not to mention, Baablu has appeared on quiet a few other SMPs like being on lifesteal as a guest, and on the smps of other color crew members.
@@Samzatas this is also true. he mainly specializes in Manhunts and stuff. Though i think the reason he's in this is cus he did an interview with baablu a while back and since baablu has been in smps, im sure it was a "while your here" type of thing.
Try to find a video that doesn’t start with « This » or a flashback and than « This is me », or the paper image background when they’re explaining stuff
I feel like Lizzie might be on a different wavelength then everyone lol. She seems to be choosing one side then talking like the other/nuetral people. None of it is wrong, just a very different way of thinking.
@@voslipthat's literally how every video ever is made most of the times. Are now those videos too considered sounding ai ? This makes no sense at all to me
@@UnkownWonders why are u upset at the replier? they literally said it's not AI. he's just giving reasons to clear the confusion. Have you never had a conversation before
15:15 Lizzie saying she watched our lil girls group in Castaways SMP had me shook 🥹🌴
Yep!
Lizzie is just that real :D
GOATs for a reason.
I love the fact that you picks not just any smp creators but creators from different sides of the smp space, it's always nice to get more than one perspective on these type of questions
That is so cool, I never could've guessed that Lizzie would agree to be in this video but it's nice to see her
It's so interesting seeing how the opinions differ based on the side of smp space each creator is in. Absolutely amazing concept, thank you guys for putting this together!
We aimed to add as much variety as we could (sadly couldn’t get people from other areas) but tysm 💙
@@InsideMCPodcastdid you use AI voices
“A long time ago back in 2019” damn I feel old
Ngl I too tend to word it like that with music making everyone feel old for liking certain songs xD
Not gon lie.. it just feels like yesterday was 2020…
I can’t believe Lizzie knows castaways smp I am screaming
Same🥹🌴
That is super cool
i personally have an SMP, which it's main whole thing is just to have fun playing with my friends. and whatever happens happens. i wish more SMPs were less copy pastes and more original ideas. all these clone smps just muddy the waters and make it hard to find truly good smps.
This is a really interesting video! I do wonder how the opinions may shift as you look more towards smaller creators and stuff and definitely some of the reasoning behind those views.
Like for me when I heard the question asking if it's hard to find unique SMPs, my reasoning for saying yes was more about how a lot of smaller creators (so people in my general area) are very scared to try new things or just generally don't have the ability to make them a reality because smaller creators tend to have less time or expendable resources to put into it. I also think there's a lot of difficulty finding people for an SMP as I've seen behind the scenes of working on smaller SMPs, your biggest issue is finding people with the right personality to not be "problematic" as the best word I can think of.
We've had to remove several people from SMPs for being fairly toxic behind the scenes and stuff or generally having the wrong mindset for what the SMP is about because they see all the massive spectacle creators doing well and want to bring that into a server designed to be a lot more calm. I think if you looked at SMPs with more popular creators, you wouldn't get that because to put it simply, the type of people you don't want on your SMP have been "filtered out" by the TH-cam audience. We have to do extensive checks on some creators to make sure they absolutely are not a bad person or the wrong fit for an SMP because there's no way to know what their personality may be outside of their content. However when it comes to larger channels, I think it's easier to find the right fit for a server because the people that don't have that personality that works well simply don't make it to that popularity.
That was a very long comment to say I'd be interested to see the opinions vary between different creator sizes and stuff.
Omg I love it when they choose if they agree or disagree the steps are so cute
MILLKBERRY AND PYROSCYTHE MENTIONED!! With moon a lizzie too! letsgoo
time to go a little bit ham in the comments because there's one question i have a lot of feelings on -- specifically, i feel like "SMPs are a lot more fun when lore is involved" is a really interesting question and a little bit loaded, mostly because the definition of "lore" within the MCYT space is so broad as to include basically anything narrative:
- "my build is inspired by Dungeons & Dragons and i think a wizard would live in it"
- "i'm making a gigantic creative mode build based on the novel i'm writing"
- "i had to cheat in items because a recipe was broken and i want an interesting way to justify that in the video"
- "here's some story framing to make backend admin stuff look more unique"
- "i have a funny bit/interesting challenge in mind and now that's seen as part of my character"
- "i made a cool skin themed around this biome i think is neat"
- "i have written a cohesive backstory for this specific character for an intensely story-focused SMP"
- "there's a competition and i want to draw up a plan for my team to win it"
- "i keep running into one very specific type of thing, despite the fact that it's supposed to be rare"
- "i thought it'd be fun to just start up a stream and improvise a villain monologue because i'm bored"
- "people like drama so i'm going to ham up a fake grudge between me and the friend that punched me off a cliff on impulse"
when you get right down to it, the second you sit down in front of a computer and start making a Minecraft video, you're telling a story and building a narrative. even if you're in singleplayer, even if you despise the word _lore,_ even if you're just making bottom-feeder clickbait content... the framing of the video, the way you choose to say things, and the things you choose to leave in or leave out all contribute to an overall narrative -- and again, Narrative and Lore are often treated as the same thing in the SMP space -- so you can't really put a group of people in the same room and expect there _not_ to be some kind of story.
so, are SMPs "more fun when lore is involved?" probably not in terms of more rigidly-defined "your character is this and they do this" or "the story of the world is this because of these things" lore, but... given the definition of "lore" to mean just about anything narrative, they kind of _have_ to be. ultimately, Minecraft is a sandbox game -- and if you take out everything falling under the broad category of Lore, all you're left with is an extremely janky 3D modeling program.
I so agree with this. Lore is fun in small dosages. Crafting little naratives such as a cute fairy cottage, mermaid palaces, wizard towers etc. I love inventing smaller stories and more compact lore. But something I never really enjoy was such overarching lore, where every action is preplanned and its a story. I write creative fiction, it's not that I don't like a story, but a point of SMPs is to go on a minecraft server and just talk and have fun with your friends, and I really don't think that achievable with every single preplanned action because its not a movie but it feels just like minecraft. I think an SMP that really did well in blending it was Witchcraft SMP and a bigger one would be Hermitcraft SMP. Of course, witchcraft was almost entiremly crafted from lores, but I don't think anyone knew going in who was going to actually win, but rather just wanted to work together to build narative as it goes and explore the magic of the world.
Personally as an SMP content creator, I’ve owned many SMPs but only streamed on a couple. I come from the bedrock SMP space, everyone’s much nicer on this side of the community in my opinion! The java side, which I’ve also been part of, was harsh to me and many people due to the DreamSMP and stuff like that.
Long story short go with what SMP you love and stick to it, create your own and whatnot! But hey, what am I saying? I come from twitch lmao.
Here because I love ldshadowlady content! #shadowcadet
Great questions, and fascinating to see the differences between PVP SMP creators and Survival SMP creators (I couldn’t think of a better term that encompasses builders, redstoners, etc.). Really well made video, I had no idea you could get non-mcsr people on lol
It was very interesting to see how each creator's mind works. I didn't expect to see Roesalie here, though it was a welcome surprise.
awesome editing style! :)
personally i was only here for red, but stayed for 4cvit
Same…
This is so enlightening, I’m glad I found this video because it’s really a perspective you don’t see often
I definitely learned a lot from this, tho Im yet to watch an SMP video in months (also, I think this concept with some MC event players would work really great as well)
This was so well done! its really interesting hearing the different thoughts of other smp creators!
This video is so well made, literally like 26 seconds in and I'm already hooked!
I love hearing what everyone has to say! :D
damn the only smps I've watched mentioned are hermitcraft and empires. I've never even heard of the others, except dsmp, I've heard of that one. I only know Lizzie, are the others in the same circle or different circles as well?
I appreciate this video for giving us the point of views from different content creators, but the way the audio has been edited is driving me crazy. I understand the idea of removing long pauses in speech, but it sounds like each word has been edited from a different line of dialogue thenmashedtogetherintoonebigsentancewithoutanygapswhichisreallyannoying.
woah this is dope, had this playing in the background but cool listen !
fire editing
I’m watching this and thinking to myself, what are these smps they keep naming 😂 I’ve never heard of “life steal” or a couple other ones
Lifesteal is cool tho
@@Bruhbro125 I imagine it probably could be, aside from the big 3, the only other one I know of that was mentioned here was castaways smp
Lifesteal is a different "circle"or "niche" of smp content compared to something like hermitcraft or dream smp. So the mass majority doesnt know it as much
Lifesteal is a pretty cool SMP, if you want to get into it I would highly recommend Branzy but if you are more interested in the pvp aspect of it then ClownPierce's casino video and ClownPierce's "How I died on the Deadliest SMP" are my favourites
@@PyroAxolotlDragon whole season 2 is a great way to start watching lifesteal. Watching season 5 now can be a little complicated but branzy uploads banger content nowadays.
This is a very underrated video
Since when was Baablu a SMP creator 🤨
Since that one time
He's created multiple SMPs. VibeSMP, joined his friend Fantst's SMP: The NemesisSMP, and then after those 2 servers were gone, the two made the BizarreSMP. Not to mention, Baablu has appeared on quiet a few other SMPs like being on lifesteal as a guest, and on the smps of other color crew members.
@@JSheerXeno54but it’s not his main content compared to the other ones
@@Samzatas this is also true. he mainly specializes in Manhunts and stuff. Though i think the reason he's in this is cus he did an interview with baablu a while back and since baablu has been in smps, im sure it was a "while your here" type of thing.
well on his baablulol channel he has an smp video
Everyone having different sizes of what to say then reddons just talking so much everytime
Great idea for a video!
Good job man this is great
I need this on apple podcasts please!
That was a really great video
Thank you!
4cvit is a d1 yapper
this is an interview wdym 😭
4c is the opposite of a yapper, bro is him
He yaps the truth, just he has a whole lot of truth.
I didn’t know what this meant, until I heard the first answer 😂 it’s just a long story longer type of response instead of a long story short 😅
Dude… it’s an interview video…
Try to find a video that doesn’t start with « This » or a flashback and than « This is me », or the paper image background when they’re explaining stuff
Such a cool video!!
ROESALIE
Ok the video is a banger but wtf is that baablu skin.
his eyes haunted me too
good video
Wow
I feel like Lizzie might be on a different wavelength then everyone lol. She seems to be choosing one side then talking like the other/nuetral people. None of it is wrong, just a very different way of thinking.
Idk anyone but lizzie..
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻
Is this AI
It’s not he just cuts in between them thinking and pausing so it just sounds like it a bit
Yes/j, no it's not idk how you hear anything AI in this video
@@voslipthat's literally how every video ever is made most of the times. Are now those videos too considered sounding ai ? This makes no sense at all to me
@@UnkownWonders why are u upset at the replier? they literally said it's not AI. he's just giving reasons to clear the confusion. Have you never had a conversation before
@@HaifaaAmni saying it sounds like this a bit still implies they believe as well it sounds ai. Why do you even play the blame game lol
Honestly would love to see Lizzie‘s old call of duty and FPS content again
samee!!! watching her play overwatch would be great