Nehru was right in taking Kashmir to the UN. It paid us later
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2019
- At 95, M.K. Rasgotra is probably India’s oldest and among its most experienced diplomats. In this interview with The Print’s Nayanima Basu, Rasgotra says ex- Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru took the right decision to take the Kashmir dispute to the UN. His book, ‘A Life In Diplomacy,’ vividly describes how India’s foreign policy came into being after independence in 1947 under Nehru, who was his own foreign minister and how that era compares with Modi’s foreign policy today.
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Why is the lady in such hurry. Atleast let the old gentleman speak. He starts saying something interesting and the lady cuts him off.
Bcoz he didn't speak what they want
let the man speak, he was explaining the china issue so briefly and then the lady interrupts 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
She's isn't a reporter, she's a loudspeaker. Even the editors of this video didn't find it intelligible to normalise her audio - she remains loud while the gentleman's voice is 3 levels below hers.
She's been doing this in all her "interviews" - interruption, steering the conversation in a direction where the interviewee's answers are more in line with her understanding instead of the other way round.
Yes...he is brilliant. This lady is a dumb anchor. I would like to hear more of his wisdom. He is great. Truly a legend and history ought to be written along his thoughts. Beautifully articulated. But stupid anchors like this lady spoils it all. I believe it seem to be a standard norm with all damn India media anchors. Hopefully, there could be another proper interview. The world ought to know the truth behind multiple India's policy decisions.
She is a Bengali 'armchair' communist!! That explains
She just asks questions no clue what he says 😡
First Jyoti Malhotra n now her ! Damn
Seriously! The lady interrupted the diplomat at the wrong time - I really wanted to know what Nehru told Zhou Enlai on Dalai Lama's asylum question! This could probably explain the '62 Chinese position --> This is what happens when the interviewer is not really listening and wants to go through the prepared list of questions. Quite poor interviewing skills...
Where the hell did he say that in conclusion? This is why u need to have well learned anchors to take interview..
He wanted to speak more on china but she didn let him .. you can see that when he says the china premier wasn happy and told so to nehru , she immediately puts a follow up question as a closure.. seriously man .. get some good anchors to interview well read people
You can use these anchors for politican Intrviw
You sounds like, you don't know "The print" news
He has seen our foreign policy shape itself. Someone who witnessed post independence history first hand and having the experience of interacting with its stalwart leaders. I'm reading his memoir it's amazing how re recalls everything with so much accuracy at the age of 90+.
It is unfortunate that Print "censored" an important part of the talk on China.
It is an anti India media
@@surendr3645 what is your definition of India.. you have certain group and their leader in mind for sure
"People who criticise Nehru do not know what the circumstances were in 1947 " This I have been repeating for last eitgt years to all ..
People got educated after the creation of WhatsApp 😁😁
When u try to make shirt out of socks, you contemplate something like this.. Try to come out of this nonsense .. pay us later ? How ?
- Not having connectivity to central Asia ? That helped us ? Kazakh energy pipeline lost.. helped us ?
- China Pakistan alliance is solely sealed on this not having that land.. which has become a nightmare for us
- Rivers, minerals, tourism opportunities lost.. helped us ?
Only 5th rate communist can think something like this..
@@simplysimple2622uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
He even rejected UN offer for a permanent seat in 1955
A very bhakt ideology no political leader should be exempted from criticism
" THE KASHMIR ISSUE HAS GIVEN US A GREAT DEAL OF TROUBLE. THE ATTITUDE OF THE GREAT POWERS BEEN ASTONISHING. SOME OF THEM HAVE SHOWN ACTIVE PARTISANSHIP FOR PAKISTAN. WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN A SQUARE DEAL"
- Jawaharlal Nehru.
@@nope0307 not mutually exclusive and he couldn't shout anyway, he was a mouse, all he could do was squeak.
@@BallyBoy95 kar liya hate ab nikal lawde
No one gives Sqare deal to you , you take a sqare deal from them with power. You can have meek mentality or strong mentality.
We now understand what kind will cha-cha nehru had. We needed strong leader like Sardar Patel.
If he can't handle it, why didn't he let sardar Patel do the job? He runs to UN in the middle of war? We are already at war, what more do we lose?
I m so called rightwinger but i can say the print journalism is better than every other hindi and english digital media.
What do you mean a right winger?
@@pavitraranjanswain4010 He plays on the right side of the forward line, in front of the right back and on the right of striker
You are "no-winger". So just shut up and don't shit.
@@pavitraranjanswain4010 I want less state interference in the economy. Thats what makes me a right winger.
@@lookintoit4537 : Is it the definition of right winger? Great ! Colonizers were also looking for the same thing. They used to keep puppet kings all over the places of India and used to do economic activities through people. They were also ascertained that King had least interference in their activities. So why right winger drove out colonizers?
16:39 Bad move by *Print* editing out a big portion😪😌
Exactly
Madam, you were interviewing a gentleman whose thoughts can be accommodated in a book no less. Such a person should be interviewed at length and then the same may be edited for time. It seemed a little rude how you cut him off. Just an observation, otherwise you do reasonably well especially if Modi bashing is on the cards.
At 95, his clarity of mind and articulation of words are astounding!
Also a true diplomat - speaking very objectively with no politics behind.
Omg ! 20 mins that's all you gave this? This deserves a series in itself. The guy is a collection of internal memos from foriegn ministry. Please expand this.
you should definitely read his book.
@@kunalgoswami4520 would love to someday.
@@kunalgoswami4520name of his book?
He was legendary Foreign Secretary of India.His clarity and explanation of India's Foreign Policy and History is remarkable.Wishes him long Healthy & Happy life.
why did he let anderson a free passage after UCI killed 3000 people. biggest man made industrial disaster of all time.
We want more interviews of him.
Not trying to discredit him, but look at these statements from his wiki PAGE.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maharaja_Krishna_Rasgotra
He was the foreign secretary during the Bhopal gas disaster. It is claimed by the then Deputy Chief of Mission of the US Embassy in New Delhi in 1984, in an interview with a news channel, that communications between the Government of India and himself relating to the release of Warren Anderson CEO of Union Carbide to return to the US went through the Foreign Secretary. In a subsequent interview with Karan Thapar, Mr Rasgotra held that releasing Warren Anderson was the right thing to do since he had been earlier promised safe passage
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@@RahulKumar-ng2gh teri tarah wikipedia padne wale gawar hi aaj aaj minister bane baithe hai.
Dear interviewer, thanks for your efforts. From next time please do understand that common people like us don't get to hear such people usually, please let the man speak.
I am amazed at the clarity of thought of this gentleman. At 95, he is able to switch between multiple topics in the diplomacy timeline with ease.
He sounds like well read man , men In Those days would read the real stuff unlike today where google search or Wikipedia WhatsApp forwards twitter posts are considered most authentic and books are branded as factually incorrect and their writers mocked for having view contray to yours ..!!
Please interview him more often regarding the foreign relation of our initial days comprehensively in different episodes to get an insider's view.
His views on China and Tibet should not have been interrupted.
what insider view? he was 23 years old when India got independence and he is telling why Lehru did at that time. Just like Lehru, he was a third rate foreign secretary who gave free passage to anderson after Bhopal tragedy.
@@user-pz6sx7ir1p Please don't scoff at 23, a lot of people achieved or contributed significantly to their chosen field at 23. As for Aderson's exit after the Bhopal tragedy, it definitely was a dark chapter in our history, but are you or anyone else aware of what pressures were brought upon India by the USA at that time? What compelled our country to let this guy leave? After 9/11 why several Saudis were allowed to leave the USA? What economic and political pressures/compulsions compelled the US administration to allow that? Foreign policy is a game of pragmatism and nationalism doesn't play any role in decision-making unless it benefits the country or sometimes the prevailing regime. Another mistake is to judge past decisions in today's light, the past is past and dwelling in it only unnecessarily hampers current decision making
@@omen786171 Give me one example of the person at the age 23 (in a democratic country that too 75 years ago when communication and availability of information was very sketchy) has made a critical impact on strategic level and not tactical for which the future generation was impacted.
Also, were those Saudis living in USA during 9/11 were any shape or form linked with those hijackers or were responsible for their acts? Anderson was the CEO of that firm and hence he was accountable for that mishap. Your statement says, that if somebody pays you money, you should forget about the problems that were created for the countrymen. then all foreign policies are great. Tough decisions have to be taken in tough situations.
@@user-pz6sx7ir1p don’t want to spend time sighting examples of men and women who achieved great success or contributed a great deal by age 23, because that too won’t change your mind, as it is obviously set in it’s way. As for the Saudis who were allowed to leave after 9/11, you can do a little research to enlighten yourself:) Don’t want to continue this argument, so don’t bother to respond because I won’t
One may agree or disagree but he has a valid point of view
Exactly... We were not present that time... Whatever happened we dont know...
Indeed rahul gandhi dont deserve celebration but jawaharlal indira might be something...
Who celebrate LK Advani?
This interview thows lot of light on many of the controversies raised by today's politicians without knowing the circumstances of those days. Nehru took bold decision single handedly. He had no proper departments manned by experts to assist him as we have today. We have to appreciate Nehru's actions of that time. Most of them were correct and are helping the country today.
What a wonderful man. It was delight listening to him. Please spread more wisdom.
At 95 he is more articulate than entire current cabinet put together .. wonderful man.. more interview of him please. by decades . he is an encyclopaedia of all that happened.
did you get your rice?
Eat your free rice and shove your articulation up your ass. These cunts are the reason this nation is on its fucked up pussyfooting shape
This is the most interesting video on our foreign affairs that I've come across in a long time. The man is a pragmatist and his opinions politically unmotivated. There should be more interviews of him
@john doe Figures! Although I would be interested in that book (downloaded not bought obviously)😏
@john doe I like the convenience of a cellphone. I've written 11 scripts and ghostwritten two novels in a cellphone if you can believe that! But yes, even for me a good fountain pen on Rhodia or Clairefontaine is special. I shifted from books during my high school years when I had to satisfy my hunger for reading by downloading from torrents. I still do that sometimes 😅
This man cannot decide our country politics
Thats how a man speaks who has vast experience and knowledge 🙏🙏
True , that’s how men who surround themselves with good books and great company think and speaks .I truly feel jealous of our previous generations they didn’t had to live in such an vitiated and communal atmosphere , they had ample opportunity to engage in debate and discussion with their adversaries and opponent yet not be scared of being called anti nation go to Pakistan liberandu and what not ..!!
Great revelations of Truth by Sri.M.K.Rasgotra and salute to the Greatest Prime Minister of Bharat Sri Pandit Jawarhal Nehru 🙏
Very insightful, totally enjoyed listening to Mr. MK Rasgotra.
Hi
Can anybody brief me about the Decision of taking kashmir scenario to UN?
I tried hearing several times but not getting it properly
All good journalists are on TH-cam,
That's why TV journalism died
Awesome interview 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
He feels like the aemon targerian on the knight's watch. Through summer to winter to summer again. Seen it all lad seen it all
Excellent episode!! I understand the time pressure on the interviewer. But cutting off the gentleman in the middle of topics gave a feel that she was focused more in ensuring that she asked all her pre-prepared questions than listening to what the gentleman had to say. An excellent episode, nevertheless.
Please post the full interview
Nehru should have retaken POK from Porkistan instead of declaring a truce. If he had done that there would be no need to take the Kashmir issue to the UN which anyway is a venue for gasbags. This diplomat is trying to whitewash the cowardly actions of the very first PM of India who built modern India on weak foundations.
The situation was not so good at that time..
Economy was small.
@@somdeepkundu2506 It was not about the economy but because Nehru was a socialist. Socialism is cancer.
@@warnpassion so were Bose and Bhagat Singh.
And how is socialism a cancer?
You said He should have take POK.
He was doing it.
Truce was declared on 1 january 1949.
War started in october 1947.
So it was almost 1.25 years of war.
Armies from both sides were in stalemate, no one were progressing on their fronts.
How could had he got on with war?
Kashmir should have been given,what good has that land ever did to us, kashmiri pandits had to leave anyway, better at that time.Both of us would have been better.Plus it is a muslim majority region why would do they want to come to a hindu majority country anyway. If just only partition would have been better and complete.
Sane words by one who has seen independent India take shape from birth! Listen to him.
A conversation with a positive and realistic personality who gave answers to all questions/queries positively and honestly
I am reading his books write now. A Life in Diplomacy. He is a true role model for me.
Amazing! How does one maintain such a sharp intellect at the age of 95.
History is revealing itself through his leaps. ❤
He was a 23 years old boy .
And do u think he will take the blame on him now😂when the legacy raj he served are far away from power now !
Man... he was ri8 about Nepal...
Indeed what an amazing interview.... looking forward to read the book
Please publish the uncut version!
I could listen to this man all day...
The Lady is constantly Interrupting Mr Rasgotra constantly-- Conveniently forgetting that besides having been A Super Diplomat of India ( He was a very Successful Foreign Secretary) he was A Great Poet of Hindi as well! Ambassador (Rtd) Harsh Manral.
Thank you print for interviewing him...
Very well conducted interview by young Nayanima. Enlightening responses from the grand old diplomat sri Rasgotra with such wisdom, objectivity and clarity.
Happy to see that the comments in summary
* are impressed with the lucidity with which Mr.Rasgotra describes what happened and his views on what needs to be done.
* Are unimpressed with the way the interview was conducted/edited.
Thanks to print and interview Rasgothra the living legend on Foreign policy from PM Nehru days There cannot be more authentic information than from him.
Insightful discussion
He is an authority in Foreign Policy
A rookie trying to interview a veteran diplomat. Totally ruined it. Please send a seasoned professional next time. We rarely get to hear diplomats who actually were there in those early post independence days
Most Indians are blissfully oblivious of what India was when Jawaharlal Nehru became PM. In any case it was a far better place to live than what exists today.
His mental faculties at this age is great and God gifted .May God keep his grace and kindness on him .
I was a bit let down by the host. She asked good questions but just when the gentleman was getting into the thick of things, she cut him off and changed subjects. I wanted to hear more from him. Amazing that he has seen so much of Indian foreign policy in his life time.
and he is right about Nepal. only few media outlets talk about it. Nepal politics is playing a dangerous game.
Exactly, they're one of oldest and closest allies and the only other Hindu majority nation in the world. And yet, Modi managed to screw up relations with Nepal, giving China the upper hand.
Owesome all positive about all leaders..zero politics..need people like this man.
We need one hour interview from the gentleman.
Rasgotra type real diplomats should be more interviewed more often.I am amazed at the clarity of mind at his age.No woonder India managed itself so well with Rasgotra type intellectuals with Nehru.
Awesome. Please have two hours interview with him. Inspiring @ 95. Brilliant
Just ask this legend who and how many voted to nehru to become the pm
Sir M K Rasgotra is a great personality who is bridge from newly formed India under PM Shri Nehruji and present India under PM Shri Naredra Modiji .Present people and leaders can learn from his way of explanation how India grownup from past great leaders and how present leaders work for stable and progressive India. Salute to Shri M K Rasgotraji .
Complete it...plz
Respectfully differ with the senior gentleman.
many thanks Manisha Mandal ji for valuable
Interview for our leader's
National policy.
Legend! Seen it all and still standing
He's a yes man. He's not criticizing any govt, from Nehru to Modi. He's only explaining why things happened the way they happened. Not much useful advise from a very old man. Waste of an interview. May be if the interviewer is more experienced, could get some useful insight from him.
Some very valuable insights indeed from a master of the craft... I have one teeny tiny suggestion.. please balance the volume of the interviewer's and the guest's voice.
Wonderful insight. Could we hear more from him. Thank you
We r still paying the price of the stupid decision of nehru to take Kashmir to UN
A great legend in Indian Foreign services
Enjoyed the Interview thoroughly except the loud shrill voice of the lady, almost an earsore.
Panditji'S SOFT TONE TOWARDS CHINA WAS INTERPRETED AS INDIA'S WEAKNESS !! Request Congress CHAMCHAS to ACCEPT THIS !! Panditji's ROMANTIC NOTIONS ABOUT THE NORTHEAST WAS DEVOID OF REALITY AND NEVER TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE DEMANDS AND NEEDS OF THE TRIBES AND PEOPLE OF NORTHEAST- MERELY TOOK THEM FOR GRANTED!!
This attitude continued, sadly, in the later governments of the Indian National Congress and led to SEPARATISM, VIOLENCE AND SECTARIAN CONFLICTS- EFFECTS OF WHICH CAN STILL BE FELT IN NORTH EASTERN INDIA TODAY !! HIS IDEALISM COST US A LOT!! HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A VISIONARY BUT I CAN'T OVERTAKE NETAJI SUBHAS BOSE AND SARDAR VALLABHAI PATEL'S SIGNIFICANCE OVER HIS !!
Well if we were to go as PRINT'S ideology then nehru was right at the time of 1962 war CHATUKARITA ki bhi seema hoti hai
Why is this edited in some important parts? We need to hear what he says, not the editor's interpretation by censoring his talks halfway to the conversation.
This lady is in a hurry to wind up the talk... He is very patient otherwise he would have quit...
Was she even listening to this veteran diplomat ? He seemed to have wealth of knowledge, experience and seemed also keeping himself up to date at his age! And here is an interviewer who is so pre-occupied with her own train of thoughts and rehearsing the next question to be asked in her mind, that she didn't even realise that her questions kept on entering / interrupting incoherently through the conversation.
"People who criticise Nehru do not know what the circumstances were in 1947 "
"People who criticise Modi do not know what the circumstances are in 21st century "
That doesn't follow - very few people alive today were adults in 1947. Most people alive today are adults today.
@@JM-jj3eg if only we all were kids, no political drama, no religion fight, no crime n cruelty. But alas! We do grow up. And we suffer the lot we give birth to.
a part of mr Rasgotra's dialogue has been edited out at 16:44. please check and do the needful
Why @16:53 some portion is edited
It was suicidal for Nehru to have a ceasefire when the tide was turning in our favour.
Thats the reason jinnah said this after he is being an ambassidor of hindu muslim
Why does this feel incomplete?
In the name of non alignment we sided with soviet Union !
Nehru took Kashmir to UN in his personal capacity without the approval of the parliament.
The biggest blunder he did was to name it as disputed matter instead of terming it as invaded or occupied.
On one hand our army was pushing Pakistani kabailis back and this bastard was blocking at UN
Print seems to be returning to its original roots of being old NDTV
I am glad this interview happened. People of India, particularly young people thought Nehru was responsible for the troubles in Kashmir..
Nehru was the greatest leader who shaped modern India of Today from roubles, troubles to giant economy.
Nehru was a scumbag and British agent. A selfish begot unworthy First PM of India.
Nehru failed Bharat In Kashmir issues and China War
Except for perhaps Kashmir, Nehru’s foreign policy was very beneficial for India.
If it were not for the non aligned movement we would have had to sacrifice all our resources to either USA or USSR. Instead we could cooperate with both of them.
Also under Nehru India was at forefront of the pro democratic movement worldwide and ended the Korean War.
Besides if it were not for Nehru Kashmir would be with Pakistan. No matter what narrative BJP created everyone including Sardar Patel did not care if Kashmir went to Pakistan, they were more worried about Hyderabad.
you are parroting Romalian history. Are you willing to open your mind.
The blundering PM JL Nehru th-cam.com/video/mS86JWlo_eo/w-d-xo.html
@KD Media nice imagination What about Ur modi now.Is he trying to hijack nehru leadership
you should read about what ambedkar though about nehru decisions and he even give the solutions of the problems that nehru was going to create in the future before he died.
@@jatin9070 ok but people elected Nehru
So he got to decide.. Simple
He reminds me of a ststrsman like Henry Kissinger in our midst.! I don't know why I have not seen a person of his srature well versed in our foreign policy until now! I have been very impressed with his authoritative calm voice and knowledge and agree with many of the readers that we like to see him more often and for longer time if of course he agrees at his age .My deepest respects to Mr Rajgotra.
Why Gupta Sir,ur assistant showed UTTER DISRESPECT by ending the Interview abruptly.
She put good Q. espl about now and then, and at this RIPE AGE of 95 SRI MK RasagotraSir gave astounding non political answers.
This shows ur self in very badly 😔
This statement itself shows how short sighted, underconfident and medicore our Policymakers have been , its better we get rid off these types of persons from our system asap .
Stop digging historical decisions, think what country needs today….
We want a bigger interview of this man. Stop cutting him out.
Going to UN on Kashmir issue is debatable. But as the UN did not resolve or take up action for long time, India should have taken back support application from UN and should have handled by self.
He is a very experienced and knowledgeable.. i wish the interview was longer
Dear sound editor please balance the sound between the lady and the old man
Finally India accepted it was India which took Kashmir dispute to UN
Please do a detail podcast.... U have found an amazing person .... Who was been there and done that... Inspire of his old age has remarkable memory and sharp intelect... and please let him talk however in detail he wants to speak... Do not intrupt
Talk to him in 2024❤ i want to listen him❤
kashmir is a internal issue then and now why did NEHRU take it to UN ?other hand he rejected India's permanent membership in Security council and Gave it to China.
Rajesh Bobba maybe learn the history? China was already a member of security council by 1947. How will Nehru give the seat to China? 😂😂😂
Rajesh Bobba maybe learn the history? China was already a member of security council by 1947. How will Nehru give the seat to China? 😂😂😂
@@prasad2703 only in 1971 it became permanent member in security council , which was offered to India earlier
@@prasad2703 How about Kashmir problem and how about not using Airforce against China in Indo China war
Yep needed more questions on the conversation of Nehru and Zhou in 1960 vist to India.
Print tried a lot but the legend didn't fell in their trap so censored his talks.
Very good interview!
Sir jo WhatsApp se padh ke aate ha unko kon samjayegaa