Is Ship's Water Safer than Bottled Water? | Study Call Ep 05 Chief MAKOi
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Onboard ships, sea water is transformed to fresh water by means of a machine called the Fresh Water Generator. But is it safe for humans to drink it?
Chief MAKOi
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when seaferers failed in medical due to kidney stone, they always say " lagi kasi akong umiinom ng tubig sa barko" nice topic
Hahaha!!! I agree! Some of them also say they grew bald because of the chemicals in the water.
"I always drink the water on the ship". :-))
me too i drink water produce from the ship, and being in deck department it gives me different perspective on how it is done this gives me aditional knowlege, so more water pleassssssssse! hahahaha
hey chief any problems with microparticles of plastic ?
They say what?
Hoo boy. I can sure relate to what you said about the crew and bottled water. On the last boat that I worked on, this was the water path; we worked the Illinois River in the USA from Saint Louis to Chicago: fresh water tank was filled with city water meeting or exceeding EPA standards through 100 micron filters, from the tank, it passed through a 50 micron filter, a 5 micron filter, a UV sterilizer, then two 20 inch carbon filters in series, then a demineralizer before going out to the rest of the boat. The crew: "Uh, Uh! I'm not drinking THAT! BUT! Their ice cubes, made with that water. Their coffee, made with that water. Their meals, cooked with that water. Their iced tea, orange juice, Kool Aid, all made with that water. On the last overhaul, we had a bottle filler installed in the galley... Now, all of a sudden, they'll drink the water from that! The only difference was that the bottle filler had a very small inline carbon filter... People... :-)
Chief, these video’s have been professional-grade here lately. Very informative and entertaining.
I try my best. Thanks!
Back in the 1970's, I was a reactor operator on the USS Enterprise. Being a nuclear carrier, we would produce so much water that we would pump excess overboard. We were never on water hours.
Except once. Some guy accidentally let avgas into the fresh water tanks. It took several weeks to flush out the tanks, and in the meantime our water tasted like gas. Also, since the priorities for fresh water was for the reactor and for washing planes, and contaminated water couldn't be used for those, we went on water hours for those several weeks.
Thats why Filipino Merchant Marines seafarers are the best in the world. They make up 30% of the worlds seafarers. Keep it up Chief Engineer Makoi!
As a follow-up to the last episode, we will discuss if the fresh water produced by ships is safe for drinking. Enjoy!
Pa shout-out naman chief sa next vlog mo heheh
Hi Chief - make a video on what happens if someone falls critically ill while onboard a ship? How they receive medication? In case of an emergency, how can they reach to a hospital?
Please watch out for your mic scratching on your beard!
Pretty hearable when listening with headphones.
If I was still a ship's cook, I would be more sure of the ship's water supply than bottled water, because sometimes pollution in the plants such as bottled drinking water occurs. and the person in charge of the ship is easy to get hold of. In India, I have found that the bottled water I got, was made from seawater. Good wind, your retired food technoligist
In the navy, we use a reverse osmosis plant on the frigates. We have system set to top up fw tanks when water produced reaches under 300 ppm. We also produce feed water somewhere under 3 ppm for our two steam generators and for our gas turbine water wash routines
I was on a steam ship too and we used extra water from the evap for potable water. It was not enough for the 700+ people on board while underway, so we would also take on potable water when we pulled into ports. Once though when we took on potable water in Turkey it had some dead bugs in it. So they heavily chlorinated that water storage tank.
in iran we need 0ppm for our submarines
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@@riccardoz2953 like you even know what that means
I used to work for a water filtering company, it’s funny how the system basics are similar but in much smaller scale for residential use, ours was based on reverse osmosis but adding the minerals is the same, and some systems also have UV light, depending on the customers request.
I would actually argue depending on the bottled water quality, there is a good chance the ships water is actually better than bottled water,
1. Very often bottle water it’s just tapwater filtered, from unknown Quality of both the water and the filter process.
2. Water leeches from the plastic bottle it’s sitting in for months before you actually consume it.
3. on the ships water you control the water and you know exactly what you’re getting
(often bottle of water came out in lab tests to be not a good quality)
Anyway Great channel I’ve been really enjoying it
Thank you for all your hard work
Hello
Hi Chief - make a video on what happens if someone falls critically ill while onboard a ship? How they receive medication? In case of an emergency, how can they reach to a hospital?
I have to say, you are a great ambassador of your country. You truly let your country and industry shine!
Good rule of thumb. If the chief engineer drinks the tap water you can too!
Great video Chief! I’m not a mariner, but we do cruise frequently (at least under normal circumstances) and your videos provide enlightenment into ship operations most of which I assume are universal to just about every ship. I find your videos to be of top quality right up there with the best in broadcast media.
Sir im looking forward for more interesting, complicated topics about all the machineries onboard ..
Growing up,my father was chief engineer on oil tankers. I enjoy your channel,chief. Brings back memories.
Watching you from Egypt, suez city
Keep going chief we like you
Yung C/E mong malupit 😎👌
very educational chief. Thanks.
My brother is a captain. He has visaya accent when he speak english. Peace brother. But you speak really well
I love Chief Makoi’s voice: he reminds me of my dear friends on Hawaii Island 🏝 🌺
Hey Chief! Each day your videos get better and better! Salutes from Brazil
Love this format! Very Cool! I don't know how I missed this one...Spot on.
We have a rainwater collection system here at the house, with similar filtering and UV sterilization equipment. It's great! Showering, drinking, washing clothes and dishes are all much better than "city water," Tell your crew they are fortunate to have such good water systems on board.
Video quality improved both content as well as concept wise. Looking forward to the next video. You gave great insights about seafaring and seafarer lives. Following your channel from March-April 2020. Thank you.
Stay safe and healthy during these testing times.
very nice chief makoi. advanced study na to especially sa aux mach na subject. more power po chief
Graphics are awesome Chief. 24 year USN. Always drank the water till they said you can’t. Did see cloudy water and poor taste.
nice Chief. now i can save money next contract by not buying bottled water anymore☺️
Obviously other ships water systems may not be as tight as yours. Great topic and very well presented.
Chief, you crack me up. The ship is using the exact same process as the bottled water companies use. I work in a print shop, and we got our share of goofs that drink bottled water, but paying attention to my area's water quality our water is better than bottled. Maybe I am to blame as they seen me change the filter and see the clay setiments and gross out. Not a problem, unless they flush out the hydrants, so I tell them to if it is brown, wait a half hour and flush the toilet and it will clear up.
Modern cities even with their flaws opperate on seperate systems for water and sewage. They figure it out at the last turn of the century. Got stuck on canoeing trip in Canada and our troop cheaped out with using household bleach. My friend and I had Iodine tablets and turned a profit because people wanted a different change of bad. We also had tablets to neutralize the taste of iodine, but they never got to the point of buying them because we had one pack and wanted ten times the price.
The easy way to wig people out about the water they drink is to tell them it is safe. With water it is not about the souce, but cross contamination which is vertually non existant for most of the world.
Good video even domestic water towers normally have an inch or two of mud in them. So what is safe that’s always a good question
And are designed so that the inlet/outlet pipes are a foot or more above the floor specifically to avoid that settlement of solids.
Sometime ago, a friend of mine introduced me to a seaman working as a machinist in an international cargo vessel. He once told me about the drinking water in the ship which came from the sea. He had mentioned about desalination and reverse osmosis but so far, I have not seen such kind of device but only those in commercial mineral water refilling station until I have watched your channel. Come to think of it, it's more safer to drink than those tap water from the local water system in our area which was treated only with chlorine. Indeed, I'm contemplating to install a reverse osmosis in our faucet in which the water seems no longer clear. Very informative and detailed as well as worth viewing. More Power!
As always, another great video. Here is a story for your shipmates that drink bottled water. A lab in Toronto sent technicians out and bought different brands of bottled water. They tested the bottles and compared it to their tap water and the tap water was the best.
I don't usually comment on sponsor messages. But wow, yeah, as a landlubber I've never thought of what a huge pain just staying connected is for mariners. I hope you end up on ships with good Internet some day.
I used to live and work at a place that had its own water source and processing plant. The manager of the plant used to laugh at those who were buying bottled water. He used to post the weekly test reports for the drinking water and every week it was the same. 100% H20, no trace elements and no organisms. Unfortunately, the block I lived in was 20 years old and had steel pipework. Pure water is more corrosive than regular tap water. About 1am I discovered that the feed pipe to a urinal had corroded through when the valve snapped clean off the 1 ¾ inch pipe. Soaking me, as I stepped aside the fire pumps activated due to the pressure drop. In five minutes the whole block was flooded, it was an hour before the water was shut off at the plant because to save money they didn't install valves on each block as they were meant to be temporary housing for the builders.
I remember when I was a deck apprentice (1963-66) cleaning out fresh water tanks and cement washing them. None of the sophisticated evaporation processes existed. I dread to think what we must have been drinking !? :)
Excellent video. I am a retired airline Captain. I have always liked technical things. When I started as an airline pilot, we all started as flight engineers. As part of our testing we had to draw the systems schematics by memory and explain how each component worked. This reminds me so much of the system knowledge we lived in.
Step father of mine served in the U.S. Navy(1977-1986) and the drinking water on board was better than any sold bottled water sold in the states. No chemical or tablets were used, just the magic of the drinking water maker that was on board.
well, i started out thinking i was going to get some work done. i have now watched about a dozen of your excellent, informative, and interesting videos
Very good explanation about the fresh water from the boats ... and I never saw anyone get sick from drinking water from the boat🚢👍
GOD BLESS you chief! Salamat for sharing your Knowledge. 🤗🤗
Nice Video Chief!! Excellent quality and looking forward for more!
Good Morning Chief Makoi, thank you very much for explaing this process so well. If the crew would know how bad the Quality of some bottled table waters is, they wouldn´t drink it anymore.
Great vid!
Galley Crew here and we use water produce by ship specially when mixing it with Powdered Juice. So that they won't taste it differently.
Chief, I serve as a musician on a cruise ship, and I just want to say you are the man.
Since people always talk trash about the tap water from cruise ships and choose to drink bottled, I've always wondered if you have ever seen the results of tests carried on the purified water, just to see how exactly the water is different from bottled/boiled tap water. It does taste different, I wonder why.
Keep the blue skies up
Galing talaga ni Chief. Ayos to. More knowledge content. Support Chief Makoi.
Excellent description
Thank you so much sir for a well explained knowledgable videos sir , much respect . I hope and expect more to have a wide knowledge about onboard a ship and as a Marine Engineer. Im an Engine Cadet , last year i was onboard i have learn a lot also but as a first timer im still struggling until i found out you sir and your videos everythings so easy for you . Hope in future sir i can learn more about in your videos as a marine engineer .
Old school, but our engineers cleaned the holding tanks with a sort of solvent. Water was terrible for 7 weeks. Canadian government ship, so drank beer instead, lol. Orange juice, grapefruit, anything but coffee or water, lol.
Chief Makoi, I have nothing to do with the shipping industry. I stumbled across your TH-cam page. I love it and fascinated on your explanations on the technology these ships have. You are very knowledgeable. I wish I would have took up this career when I was younger. Keep up the videos.
Bill Breedlove
Thanks Bill!
Really enjoy your show because I have never been on a ship and find them most fascinating. I bet you are a great chief. You have such a great dedication to your country and your family. Thanks for giving your time to share your very interesting life.
Good show Chief. It's been over thirty years since I was at sea. I like to see the new equipment.
Need more videos like this, Chief! Love the content!
Very informative... Im not a seafarer but your topics always makes me interested with how seafarer's life is... Maybe i really wanted to be one.
Anyway... Congratulations.. im not saying that your previous videos are not good but everything improved and i like it. All videos are interesting and informative and that alone for me is a good thing to watch and not just a waste of time. Keep it up Chief Makoi, i know it's not that easy to do a video and everything about it but..... You're one of the best I've seen. Can't wait for more of your uploads. God bless Chief and also your family, be safe and keep safe.😉
Very well said sir , if the process is carried out properly we can say it is safe to drink water produce in ship
Very interesting , enjoyed this video very much , 👍
I listen to be informed you are a great teacher
Isa ka sa mga inspirasyon ko 🔥
My ship doesn't have a mineralizer or UV lamp built in. Had a mineralizer installed on one of the fountains (still skeptical on if it actually worked or not) and we chloronate our tanks to prevent biological contaminants. Most of the crew had to rely on vitamins and mineral additive packets.
Boy that water really hits different when we hit port calls, and you could tell the difference immediately when we started producing our own water again.
Dear chief MAKOi I study english language from your videos also I repeat some materials of my profession.Thank you so much for your work!
Excellent video sir
Your one knowledgeable person. If your ever in the port of Baltimore MD or Norfork Va it would be priceless to have lunch with you . On my dime that is . Be healthy and safe.
Bearing in mind it was 80 years ago and probably a very different desalinization process, my dad felt like the desalinized water in the ships he served on during WWII was responsible for him losing his teeth in his 40s.
As for comparing to bottled water, who knows? Much bottled water is simply filtered tap water. Even your "spring" waters may have who knows what in it, and not be healthier than your water generator's output.
My residential water comes from a reservoir which occasionally does this thing called "turning over" (methane gas is release from all the sediment and detritus on the bottom). For a few days, our water smells like someone forgot to flush the toilet, but it is supposedly still safe to drink.
Very interesting topic, Shout Out Chief Makoi
Chief, please continue this series..
Chief engineer in charge of the water making machinery drinks the water = plenty good enough for me. Drink up.
Please chief we need more videos like this example auxiliary machinery and their system line
Thanks in advance
Chief Makoi nakaka proud!
Matinding green screen sir, hanip!
Great vlog as always my friend! Me, coming from the airline industry, we are told not to drink the water onboard the aircraft. I think that has to do with the copper tubings. If the water is above 87 C then I think it safe to drink. Aircraft do not need the stuff that you guys need onboard ships. We are away a few hours, not months.
Aircraft don't have the evap and UV equipment. They have tanks that are filled at the airport. Only time the tanks are cleaned are during a major overhaul or when somebody gets sick and the doctors/lawyers demand that they be cleaned. As far as drinking the water on an aircraft goes, figure that you are drinking a mix of tap water from the last 15 or 20 airports that the aircraft visited and make your own decision.
It's not because of the copper most homes have copper pipes
Osm 👌 explanation sir!
Knowledgeable & easily understood .
I have an suggestion to make a video on marine boiler and OWS.
Would Love to see a video on galvanic corrosion
Sabi ng iba basta seaman lang parang tingin nila yung karunungan is parang basic lang parang sinasabi nila na pang bobo na kurso pero on how you discuss and explain it, chief makoi you prove them wrong that this profession must also repect at hindi minamaliit lang, thank you for another great vlog again. More power po.
You indeed have a great channel, Chief. Keep up the good work, please.
Bon voyages.
Ganda chief very educational
Done watching,thank u chief!..
c yeah next episode:)
He isn't kidding when he says distilled water has a flat taste. Don't mind cleaning my coffee pot occasionally as long as I don't have flat coffee: my city's tap water has always been decent.
Your videos are really very, very professional, keep it up. Me and my wife (which is Filipina) enjoy watching them a lot. Maybe the safest to drink on board a ship is San Miguel, but that is probably in short supply or even banned on board
thank u sir very informative
Thank you Chief Makoi for sharing your knowledge by explaining how this FWG system works. It helps me a lot and gives me more understanding about the process. :)
U are my motivation sir and I love you❤❤
Hi chief. Looking forward for a study call about purifiers. Thanks.
I was going to say as I was watching this, if I see the chief engineer drinking the ship's water, it's good enough for me too.
Another interesting video as usual Chief. Direct and to the point without getting to technical because it can put you asleep if the instructors get into to much detail. Some days I struggled to stay awake in class and then had to study what I didn't catch that day even though I was fascinated with water treatment.
And Chief, it might be your accent but its Potable water, not Portable water. LOL.
Actually, I said both. "Potable water" during the first. And then "portable test kit" because they are portable.😄
@@ChiefMAKOi You're right dang it. I watched it again. My Bad Chief
Excellent video, Chief!
I drank ship's water all my 25 years of sailing except on my second ship which was really old and had to load up freshwater from shore from time to time for reasons I didn't know. My reasons for not buying the bottled water were "the agency/company would tell us if the ship's water isn't safe to drink and since they did not, then it must be safe and I didn't want to add any more plastic bottle garbage plus of course the additional expense". You are right about sailors having a lot of unfounded beliefs regarding drinking water. An AB that I sailed with always reboiled his soup in the microwave before eating. Inis na inis si Mayor everytime maririnig nya ang beep beep ng microwave kasi kakahango lang sa kalan tapos papakuluin pa ulit. I asked the AB why and he said "to kill the bacteria". I also sailed with a 2nd mate who consumed a lot of bottled water. He once told me that he could finish off a 1.5 liter bottle while walking mula popa hanggang prowa. I told him that it's bad but he didn't believe me. Meron namang barko akong nasakyan libre bottled water at ginawa namang final rinse sa buhok ng isa kong kasama pantanggal daw ng dundruff.
Nice vlog sir 😀😍
Trick is to watch the skipper and chief engineer. If they drink the water? All is well.
Today I've learned something that a didn't know i wanted excellent video and explanation, thanks
chief please make a video on synchronizing the generators, how to do it and the procedures I'm looking forward to it, thank you very much chief makoi. God bless
I am very amazed on your study call chief makoi.
Bottled water is just the same city water that's been filtered again at the bottling plant. You can get the same filtration at home & avoid buying plastic bottles.
I'm always so impressed with your videos and how explain complex topics. Potable water is so important. Thank you and your company for such great education
Such a great channel, really useful information for all seafarers. I noticed lack of videos about marine engineering on TH-cam . So I really support you chief . Thank you. 4/E
thanks Chief, very interesting video
Chief Makoi, congratulations could you please post lessons like this?
The chemicals don't contaminate the fresh water as its heavier. However if the water drank is less than 10ppm, therefore there are of course some particles.
true. and the same could be said for any water processed anywhere or found in nature. since there is no absolute purity, the question is always what quantity of concentration breaks the threshold for what the human body can handle.
yeah I'm just not convinced by that argument even though it is following guidelines making it at supposedly a safe levels, following kidney issues I've had to live with for a while, and being attributed by a professor in urology to bad water quality (I lived in Iceland, and now West of Ireland lol we don't have bad water quality here). So only thing I can think of is either he made a mistake which I doubt, or the water is not that safe in the long run on board.
Fwg is a good compensate for Engine crew. Sometimes when ER temp is so high and Engine crew were carrying out maintenance water consumption rate is 3x. So if you bought bottled water it would be a waste cuz body wont absorb nutrients and only pass thru sweat and urine.
Hello Sir. I am sailing chief officer. I find your study videos really interesting and very easy to understand.. I have a request if you can make a video explaining crash manouevring or what happen in crash astern... i have seen few videos but not so convincing..#Chief MAKOi
Though this is the topic of discussions but the packaged bottled drinking water available through out the globe is more poisonous. But Chief I like your spirit... being an engineer & seafarer.... you still try to drink fresh water made by ship.......great
well, there was a case on Italian Navy where they found water was not safe and there was a lawsuit against the Italian Navy leaded by some italian navy crew
but was it due to the process itself or just bad maintenance? 🤔
I hate provisioning when there is a lot of bottled water. Akyat pa yan sa bonded store. Early year 2000, cases of beer 🍺 lang. 😂