Lafeber I would love to see Dr Bob and Dr Orosz back for another Q&A ... This has been such an informative series I've listened to it several times to get all of the information.
My take on ganglioneuritis: It is genetic nature and hormones coming into conflict with captive living resulting in neuro-physiological changes that in severe cases cause disfigurement, mutilation, and wasting like bornavirus--but independent of such testing. Better exercise, flocking, less human-related stresses, more natural/habitat conditions (including food variety) as preventive medicine, especially with early warning signs to prevent progressing to worse condition. Unfortunately it can only get worse, so preventive activity is vital. We probably have three victims here. One definite. She arrived in a more progressed stage. Instead of worrying about falls we encourage freedom and exercise. Her strength has improved as has her mutilation pattern and even managed to fly recently despite her disfigurement. We recently discovered these studies and are now applying the Onsior treatment plan with her. Tomorrow is second treatment. We also scaled back from a vest with collar to just a collar. So far so good. Our food variety plus occasional supplements like Vermont Apple Cider Vinegar or MSM in the water have also helped with gut balance, pain, and plumage. Thanks for the early warning signs and VisBiome for Vets tip. Great to have something on hand for yeast issues too!
It's not just a captive bird issue. But affected birds in the wild would not survive for very long. Parrots living in the most ideal conditions in captivity with enrichment, best diets, foraging, fully flighted, etc have been affected so we can't blame this on captivity.
@@lafebercompany-official3250 thank you. A quick question on the Visbiome to help with yeast problems. This application was a surprise to our vet. We lost several budgies and another sanctuary I know just had an encounter among their cockatiels. How is the Visbiome for Vets used to fight or prevent wasting due to yeast?
Lafeber I would love to see Dr Bob and Dr Orosz back for another Q&A ... This has been such an informative series I've listened to it several times to get all of the information.
We have been trying to schedule them for a series on Feather Destructive Behavior, but will definitely have them back for updates on this topic.
My take on ganglioneuritis: It is genetic nature and hormones coming into conflict with captive living resulting in neuro-physiological changes that in severe cases cause disfigurement, mutilation, and wasting like bornavirus--but independent of such testing.
Better exercise, flocking, less human-related stresses, more natural/habitat conditions (including food variety) as preventive medicine, especially with early warning signs to prevent progressing to worse condition. Unfortunately it can only get worse, so preventive activity is vital.
We probably have three victims here. One definite. She arrived in a more progressed stage. Instead of worrying about falls we encourage freedom and exercise. Her strength has improved as has her mutilation pattern and even managed to fly recently despite her disfigurement.
We recently discovered these studies and are now applying the Onsior treatment plan with her. Tomorrow is second treatment. We also scaled back from a vest with collar to just a collar. So far so good.
Our food variety plus occasional supplements like Vermont Apple Cider Vinegar or MSM in the water have also helped with gut balance, pain, and plumage.
Thanks for the early warning signs and VisBiome for Vets tip. Great to have something on hand for yeast issues too!
It's not just a captive bird issue. But affected birds in the wild would not survive for very long. Parrots living in the most ideal conditions in captivity with enrichment, best diets, foraging, fully flighted, etc have been affected so we can't blame this on captivity.
@@lafebercompany-official3250 thank you. A quick question on the Visbiome to help with yeast problems. This application was a surprise to our vet.
We lost several budgies and another sanctuary I know just had an encounter among their cockatiels. How is the Visbiome for Vets used to fight or prevent wasting due to yeast?
I can add this to the questions for the Q&A session on May 20.