A 1999 Honda Accord Euro R with a H22A is much faster than any 2023 Honda Civic with the L15 engines Again, the point is saying “Honda Civic” or “Honda Accord” does not give any information; in the same way saying i5 or i7 doesn’t give any information 😊
@@TheMindscapeExplorershe lga 1700 CPUs are very powerful. You will be gpu bottlenecked for a while unless game devs start using way more CPU. I have 12700kf and 3080 very nice combo but my CPU is def overkill ur 12400f will last a long time. Also the 12400f is an i5 but like the vid said that doesn't matter.
For laptop buyers, the last letter on the code also matters, U is for daily use like office app and very light games like old game house games, P is for more heavy use for work (multiple chrome tabs, office extensive use, etc.), light gaming, light video editing etc., meanwhile H is for heavy gaming or content creation activities (also for 3d stuff). This is what I know after researching about why my laptop is very slow on some usage weight 😂, definitely gonna keep this in mind when I'm looking for new laptops when mine stopped working well.
You couldve also explained how the Names work: First one or two digits are the generation, Last 3 Digits are the exact Model (higher=better) where Numbers ~300 are an i3, ~500 are an i5, ~700 = i7 and ~900 = i9. If theres a k in the end, it means the processor can be overclocked, if theres an HQ or H it means its the mobile Version. So 7700k is a 7th Generation i7 that can be overclocked. For Ryzen it works pretty similar.
It about the last time of launch the same i9 processor but in next one half the i10 will release but the i9 previous will be best processor it will be done for processor in every 5years release of new generation of CPU and brand like name of it like for example i7 i9 cpu.
Let be honest, it's pointless. And maybe just made for views and nothing else. One way or the other... it's one thing if you don't want to see it, or if you don't want to admit it.
@@livinggreen7630 It depends, i5 is enough for gaming, i7 has more cores/threads, will be more useful for perform another tasks that the i5. And that extra cores will give you more lifespawm to your rig. Look I had a i3 9100 and I changed it to an i9 9900k and was a huge boost n everything, even in Windows and multi-tasking. So don't believe when they say that i3, i5, i7, i9 does not means nothing, that is a lie. If you can get an i7 for sale or a good price that is a win, (we are talking about cpu of the same generation obviously). Take care.
@@tncshindiru2663 I mean it depends on which type of Intel Core i5. Some of them are absolutely terrible despite being a "Core i5". It really depends on your use-case. For me most i5 are terrible since I do software development and code compilation is a lot faster on multiple cores than a single fast one, but for a gamer who needs a computer with a fast single core CPU (for Video Games since they rarely use multiple cores effectively*), (then an) i5 will do perfectly fine.
@@zenithchan1646mostly is best for software developers than gaming cz gaming load now a days total depends on gpu but for developers like multiple threading i7 is perfect
This is useful information, since in my country, online sellers OFTEN emphasize the i7 or i5 in their builds and label them as GAMING PCs, when in reality, those are OLD GENS of i7 and i5 which runs EVEN SLOWER than an 10100
Never trust the ones that come with an LED remote. They always have the one that never tells the model numbers and when I checked the reviews of one of them, it had an i5-2400
@@king_bobby_the_Ifr back when i first started getting into pc’s, the seller assured me that since it’s an i5, the 2400 would be decent at gaming… …it was the worst pc i ever got, the gpu had no fans (r9 280, stupidly hot card) and with that i5-2400 combo, it could barely hit 60 on games 🤦🏼
People hating on this info dont know about Indian market where shopkeepers scam people in the name of i3,i5,i7,i9 by giving them 5-9gen CPUs in the budget of 600-1000$
Good piece, thanks for the advice. I have an i9 from about 8 years ago and I was turning my nose up at the idea of having an i5 or i7 in a new build, now I know :)
Finally someone explained it. I hope this blows up, since my friends needed pc-s, and I showed them budget builds for gaming, and all of them had newer generation I3-s in them. And every single of my friends said, but thats I3, it sucks, and I always had to explain to them that it doesn't suck.
Not 100% of the time. please don't believe the bs they throw at you. An old Xeon chip will do just fine and cost 10% or lower of a 13 series i7 or i9. You don't need 20 cores unless you're rendering a blackhole. What should be said is that "people who buy shit just because it's newer are stupid." Most gamers, 99%, only need a modern i3. Look at steam's hardware survey. Newer doesn't always mean better.
@@mike109374yeah, an 11th gen i3-i5 is enough if ur not one of those pepole with 20 monitors or the person who has 200 tabs of chrome open I have an i5 13400f and even tho my gpu is kinda bad(gtx 1650, it was a prebuild) The pc still performes great
@@mike109374 you are correct but that is due to the fact that games are GPU intensive not CPU intensive. If you have a productivity workload that is intense then you need more cores. I see this first hand on my PC using a Ryzen 9 7900x versus my laptop that is 12th gen i7 (can't recall which one tbh). Laptop is considerably slower at tasks that require the computing power of the CPU like data analyzing and systems simulating.
@@mike109374Bro you forgot to consider the fact that older higher class CPU drop in price. There's no hard and fast rule, you have to consider it case by case..
agreed. All you need is the 3 digita in the end and you know which model it is. You add the generation and thats it. i3, i5, i7 and i9 is only useful to group the processors mainly based on corecount but also some features
@@surr3al756 Okay? And? He said the 13400F has more cores, but those extra cores (e cores) are irrelevant for gaming. The e cores won't boost fps at all... It was an irrelevant detail he added, as if those extra e cores would have any benefit in games (they don't)
@@yeetus59 You just admitted one of your own ideas for him to add (which he already had, I guess?) was pointless, that idea being E-cores. So why does it matter if he has them or not, along with P-Cores, which you claim both to be "not for gaming"? It's just a non-issue. It sounds like you think they should be in there, if it's just an observation than I'm sorry, but if you think they should be added then I really don't see why.
@@surr3al756 it was merely an observation. The topic was about which CPU was better for gaming. He mentioned the i5 has more cores, but those "extra cores" are not really utilized in gaming situations, so it was kinda pointless for him to bring that up. It just bothers me that a lot of PC building channels fail to clarify the difference between Intel's P and E cores. Unless he has explained it in another video. But I see a lot of content creators just assume "oh Intel more cores =better" which is just not the case when it comes to gaming. E cores are only used for less intensive tasks, or productivity. The P cores are for the heavy workloads, like gaming.
It’s always the same thing. More power more speed. But also no needed if you are good with what you already have. Like me with 9900k i9 im good for play in 1440p soo i don’t need new cpu at the moment
Amd follows the old style. Up the levels the better. It's just intel has drastically improved the 13 gen cpu that 3yr old i7 or i9 are in a way not worth it anymore
It's literally just old style that's why amd is so great like the Ryzen 9 3950x is slower than a Ryzen 3 5100 (it's not released yet) and a Ryzen 7 5800x3d is slower than a Ryzen 5 7600
Built my first pc recently and went with a 13600k i5. It's for music production and 1440p gaming, and my family could not understand why I didn't go for the i7 minimum. They don't understand this i5 I have has never found itself beyond 50% utilization under heavy workload 😅
@DemiLovatosSpoon without a doubt! I'm upgrading from a laptop with an 8th generation i7, and the thermals were awful. So not only a huge generational leap, but also a massive difference in cooling capability
Both series and model is important and whilst the series might give you a better idea of what someone's running, if you want to know how fast someone's setup is, you'd need to know both. Same can be said for the series of GPUs
Though, the name does help a customer choose their processor. I3 for budget, i5 for midrange, i7 for professionals, i9 for enthusiast/professionals/high-end users.
Core i* This is the name of the processor line, for example, before all core i5 were quad-core, all i7 - 4 cores - 8 threads, and so on. So splitting into core i* is important
It's important because so many people don't realize that and all they know is, "Core i7 is good" and "more ram makes your computer faster". For us that know tech, it's obvious.
Yes! Everyone messes this up! While this would not have been the case in the past, the 12 and 13th gen i3 is actually a REALLY solid CPU for gaming, and can keep up with most 30 series GPUs, or their AMD equivalents, with no bottlenecking. Technology advances, and you cannot apply a lot of information from even just 3 years ago to today.
I haven’t been keeping up to speed since I’ve done my 7700K with a 1070 back when that was the hot shit (that still runs all my needs to this day). And I wouldn’t have guess the last generations could hold their own this well.
@@zombizombi Holds up to play whatever I want. Games like Rocket League, CS:GO, Hand of Fate 2, finished the System Shock remake, Resident Evil 4 remake, basically almost every game there is until 2022, even this year, it runs. I don't need 4K 240 fps visuals if the gameplay is trash. I take gameplay over graphics everyday. 1080p60 will do.
@@FightingForceSoulless I thought the same. Got my kid a 4790. Thought it was great. Then I realised that the 4790 bottlenecks the GPU (RTX 2060) and a simple upgrade would make it blisteringly faster. But yeah. If you wanna play rocket league and CS:GO, have at you.
You can't just say to people with just product serial number, generation is important and i3,5,7,9 did indeed provided how the product are place in ther respecive generation. Yes PC enthusiast will understand 13700k better than normal people, it make sense since these number make it easier to say oh the intel core i7 13th gen. But if I tell normal people who just want a good pc that this 13700k is better than 12900k they won't understand a thing.
The reason for Intel having series is that each series has a set of performance standards that is capable of doing a specific task in a timeframe of 2-3 years. For example, you can lightly run games on Core i5 for games released in that year. You couldn't possibly run a newer game in your old Core i5. However, you could run the same game perfectly even after many years (considering no updates in game) Web browsing is suitable for Core i3. It tends to get slower each year, but surely you could browse even in the 1st Gen Core i3. Don't thing of running games here.
@@omgeduison i was trying to convince her that the laptop she was trying to buy was not the worth the money so i tried showing her different one that was far better for the same price but she told me that i didn't know what i was talking about because the one she wanted to buy had an i7 and the one i showed her had an i5 💀
The i usually denotes power consumption. i3 chips sip power, i5 and i7 use moderate amounts, and i9 chips can inhale 200 watts while loading a webpage So obviously a 7 year newer processor is better, but some of us care more about having a quiet, efficient system and less about jamming whatever makes the numbers go up on cinebench. An i3 13100k not only outperforms an i9 7900x, but it does so with 1/4th the average power draw. Something these tech channels always seem to forget is that electricity creates heat, and most people with gaming computers dont want a 1000w rgb space heater in their room in the middle of summer.
Yes, but if you add in generations as well then the i9 doesn't really say anything. The i9-9900k has less cores than the i5-13600k. Less cache, slower speeds and only supports ddr4. So it's pretty safe to say that the i5-13600k is better than the i9-9900k. If you go even further back, you can pretty safely say that an i5 13600k would be way better
why can't i like this video more than once? this needs to be recommended to more people so they understand it. everytime someone asks me which i7 i would recommend i stg
Core i* This is the name of the processor line, for example, before all core i5 were quad-core, all i7 - 4 cores - 8 threads, and so on. So splitting into core i* is important
So true, my brother was looking at an ‘i7 laptop’ which price seemed too good to be true. I looked up the processor and it was a 10 year old 2 core i7…
intel=brand Gen=which generation i7=serie letter at end=which model 13700k is all of those together the way it written u know it intel brand 13 is the gen 700 show u it a 7 serie k mean is unlock model. them are both just two different way to write the same thing
its also depends on Letter on prossecor HK - High-powered processor with high-performance HQ: Quad core CPU with high-performance U: CPU for ultra low power consumption F: doesn't have integrated graphics. X: extreme desktop performance
You're talking about laptop CPUs.. in desktop the main suffixes are K which is unlocked (can be overclocked) and F which is without an integrated GPU..
for example, Intel Core i5-13600K or Intel Core i5-13600H or Intel Core i5-13600U The letter K, or H or U represents which type of work can be done by your processor. (U means normal use , H means gaming)
I learned this when I did my first PC build, which is the PC I'm currently using. When I bought my first personal PC, it was a prebuilt. I just bought one with an an i7-2700k because I assumed i7 would be better than any i3 or i5, even if it is a low generation. Now, my custom built has an i3-10100F, lol. I guess I learned the hard way.
The i3,i5,i7,i9 tell you a lot of information, such as how the core ratio is balanced, either more cores or higher single core performance (clock speed)
Yes and the fact that a new i3 is faster than an old i9 isn't going to apply across the board. Depending on the applications you run you might benefit more or less from more base clock speed vs more threads.
I’m boutta go with the i3 13100f for my new build. I have used an i7 7700k before and was very satisfied. Good to hear that my new pc will be a bit faster
@blue-lu3iz thanks for the recommendation. I looked up the prices but I don’t think they fit my budget, however i think i can downgrade some other parts and make around ~170usd for the cpu
Uh, i7-7th gen vs i3-13th gen, so it took 6 YEARS for an i3 to overtake an i7. Sounds like it makes a difference! I get the point. He's trying to find a hook that will grab eyes.
There is another part that support the CPU performance that name "different socket LGA" and then "supported DDR5 on newest gen" also supported PCIe or any else that support to go faster. If we discuss about only CPU For the same DDR with the same Socket. Series mean many things.
Dunno why people are giving him a hard time This is good shit for novices especially that think the first two metrics are worth anything Can imagine a few parents getting a 3 year old i9 thinking it's top of the line lmfao
Is not the obvious part, he said some things that are not that way like he doesn't have so much idea of what he is talking about and he choose CPU's selectively and that is cheating. In other words, everything is very choreographed or a kind of orchestration, made only for uploading something without some much effort and gain money.
This just helped me stop obsessing over buying a new Mac book air for league of legends 😅 I have a 2020 max book air i5 and always regretted not opting for the i7 even though it runs the game perfectly fine
This is like saying there’s no difference between a xx60, xx70, and xx80 gpu. While generation matters, a 13900K is going to perform significantly better than a 13100K
That’s why i always check the benchmark from passmark or userbench of each cpu models before buying them. Those are the numbers that really matter the most.
For whoever is wondering what i3, i5, i7, and i9 mean: They're manufactured with components so small they're about 9 nanometers. To put that into perspective, that is 1/11000th of a sheet of paper. So it's the percentage of the components that function properly, as to have a fully working processor, not all of them need to function. As in i3 is lowest percentage (60%) i5 is higher, and i9 is best.
Those series names are for the shelf of the stores, so that even who's not in technology can know which pc is faster, because it's supposed that only the last or last 2 gens will be for sale. The problem is that even for the same gen a core i7 made for an ultra portable might lose to an i3 made for a desktop, so the tdp has to be considered too. The only easy way to tell cpus apart quickly is to look for banchmarks.
Didn't explain why the model number is better. It's because the higher number indicates better features and benchmarks like the clock speed, cache capability, and other important notable characteristics.
I think the i3, i5, i7 in the past is used as a cpu class where: i3 for budget/entry level cpu i5 for middle class cpu i7 for high-end cpu i9 for enthusiast build (idk how to called something that higher than "high-end" class) While the next number is for the generation number and the last letter for specific function (like letter "K" for unlocked/overclockable cpu)
For gaming, the generation mostly matters, because of the IPC improvements. So you can mostly ignore the last three digits of the number. Also you want to make sure you have a K or X at the end of it for the highest clocks and free multiplier if you still need that in 2023 when every chip is binned and pushed to the max.
SIngle core rating is important for gaming. The number of cores are important for servers/editing/producing & etc. So, if u work on your PC, buy CPU with a lot of cores. The generation is important as he said!
This is relevant mostly to gaming, in other applications auch as ML, rendering, video editing, or just having to play games while doing other stuff (such as streaming) the numbers of cores will matter..
As a person who works retail, you'll be amazed how many people doesn't grasp the concept of generation. Bit of a failure on Intel marketing, by focusing on the "Core i#" to every cpu.
I want to say no shit but I know how people can be. Getting a ton of these vids since I'm building a new PC. Going from a i5 6600k to an i7 14700k, really big leap in processing power I'm excited.
There are more things than just speed. For example support for software, power consumption, aging, weight, size etc. but I 100% agree most people relate it with speed and you busted a very very very important myth.
Its always been about the model. everything is about the model... what isnt about the model.. cars, planes, boats, tvs, computers, radios, phones.. wtf? next up water is indeed wet guys!
In other news, the brand new honda civic is faster than the 1990s honda accord
A 1999 Honda Accord Euro R with a H22A is much faster than any 2023 Honda Civic with the L15 engines
Again, the point is saying “Honda Civic” or “Honda Accord” does not give any information; in the same way saying i5 or i7 doesn’t give any information 😊
@@CataclysmComputers :P
Oh damn 😂
Lmao ikr. All this dude is saying is that the newer generations are faster. Like no shit😂
@@ParkerSaint 1998 hondo civic with a laptop (throw in a 13900k cus why not)
That's exactly why I cringe when people say "uhh I have an i7" because you could be talking about the first gen 950 or the 13700k lmao
Ikr!
Uhh I have an i7!
on a serious not is i7 12400f any good? I paired it with rtx 3060ti and 16gb ram (dual channel)
@@TheMindscapeExplorershe lga 1700 CPUs are very powerful. You will be gpu bottlenecked for a while unless game devs start using way more CPU. I have 12700kf and 3080 very nice combo but my CPU is def overkill ur 12400f will last a long time. Also the 12400f is an i5 but like the vid said that doesn't matter.
Or when prebuilts manufacturers list "i7 Intel CPU"
@@TheMindscapeExplorers 12400 is an i5 not an i7
For laptop buyers, the last letter on the code also matters, U is for daily use like office app and very light games like old game house games, P is for more heavy use for work (multiple chrome tabs, office extensive use, etc.), light gaming, light video editing etc., meanwhile H is for heavy gaming or content creation activities (also for 3d stuff). This is what I know after researching about why my laptop is very slow on some usage weight 😂, definitely gonna keep this in mind when I'm looking for new laptops when mine stopped working well.
There is hk, hk3d, HS etc
my old i5 10e gen u series was literally 0,19 ghz on accu and my new ryzen 5 5600H is 3,5 ghz on accu and 4 on the charger
Thanks!
Me n my homies play Purble Place
That is not how new generations work. It actually refers to the amount of power used. The IPC is the same, the TDP and Clock speed is different.
You couldve also explained how the Names work:
First one or two digits are the generation,
Last 3 Digits are the exact Model (higher=better) where Numbers ~300 are an i3, ~500 are an i5, ~700 = i7 and ~900 = i9. If theres a k in the end, it means the processor can be overclocked, if theres an HQ or H it means its the mobile Version.
So 7700k is a 7th Generation i7 that can be overclocked.
For Ryzen it works pretty similar.
It about the last time of launch the same i9 processor but in next one half the i10 will release but the i9 previous will be best processor it will be done for processor in every 5years release of new generation of CPU and brand like name of it like for example i7 i9 cpu.
Sorry if I do mistake in brand and name of CPUs
These videos is best in talking of true things about cpu 13000k something like in cpu very best he talking.
Thank you!
I've seen i7 5500U
the amount of people that think this video is pointless and that don't know just how much people boil down their cpus to "i3 i5 i7 i9" is insane
This vid is prolly getting recommended to people already interested in tech tho
@@meppeorgawell it was helpful to me as I’ve just started building new pcs and wanted to know why my i5 runs better than my i9
Let be honest, it's pointless. And maybe just made for views and nothing else. One way or the other... it's one thing if you don't want to see it, or if you don't want to admit it.
So, which is better to have an i5 or a core i7?
@@livinggreen7630 It depends, i5 is enough for gaming, i7 has more cores/threads, will be more useful for perform another tasks that the i5. And that extra cores will give you more lifespawm to your rig. Look I had a i3 9100 and I changed it to an i9 9900k and was a huge boost n everything, even in Windows and multi-tasking. So don't believe when they say that i3, i5, i7, i9 does not means nothing, that is a lie. If you can get an i7 for sale or a good price that is a win, (we are talking about cpu of the same generation obviously). Take care.
yeah its called "generational improvement"
damn.
I was gonna say that
Omg no way 💀
Most people ik just tell me “i have an i5 so it’s not good” when i ask what their cpu is, meaning many people don’t understand
@@tncshindiru2663 I mean it depends on which type of Intel Core i5. Some of them are absolutely terrible despite being a "Core i5".
It really depends on your use-case. For me most i5 are terrible since I do software development and code compilation is a lot faster on multiple cores than a single fast one, but for a gamer who needs a computer with a fast single core CPU (for Video Games since they rarely use multiple cores effectively*), (then an) i5 will do perfectly fine.
I recently bought the i7 13700k , very powerful cpu😀😀
Same
For what purpose gaming or working?
Me too my pc is coming in few days i7 13k
@@zenithchan1646mostly is best for software developers than gaming cz gaming load now a days total depends on gpu but for developers like multiple threading i7 is perfect
The 13700K is ridiculously overkill for almost all average consumers. What are you using it for?
This is useful information, since in my country, online sellers OFTEN emphasize the i7 or i5 in their builds and label them as GAMING PCs, when in reality, those are OLD GENS of i7 and i5 which runs EVEN SLOWER than an 10100
Never trust the ones that come with an LED remote. They always have the one that never tells the model numbers and when I checked the reviews of one of them, it had an i5-2400
@@king_bobby_the_Ifr back when i first started getting into pc’s, the seller assured me that since it’s an i5, the 2400 would be decent at gaming…
…it was the worst pc i ever got, the gpu had no fans (r9 280, stupidly hot card) and with that i5-2400 combo, it could barely hit 60 on games 🤦🏼
So the i7 is better than the i9 right?
@@wayne69wayne69ofc dude I personally go with amd just because of simple models and cheap mobo but you do you 💪😤
@@wayne69wayne69 Yes.
My preference is i7 for gaming and i9 for workstation
People hating on this info dont know about Indian market where shopkeepers scam people in the name of i3,i5,i7,i9 by giving them 5-9gen CPUs in the budget of 600-1000$
No hate on the country. But the word 'scam' and 'India' often go hand in hand these days. Ppl must've been on high alert on all times.
@@kamilonyx8311 yea sad but true
What laptop do you own?
@@aditisarode8885 currently I have acer aspire 7 2021 edition. Gonna upgrade it with a PC
Happening in morocco as well brother, i wish we had Ebay here
Good piece, thanks for the advice. I have an i9 from about 8 years ago and I was turning my nose up at the idea of having an i5 or i7 in a new build, now I know :)
I'm pretty sure they started the i9 at like the 8th or 9th gen from Intel lol .. its not 8 years ago😅
@@chazpozzi may 2017 for LGA 2066 so it is 6.5 years. For example i9 7900x
Yeah you’re wrong about that. The first gen i9 is from 2017 so about 7th gen Intel
The magic of "no shit it's newer"
3050 is worse than the 3080. That argument isnt always the most accurate
@@yassineazoui4204 they're the same series doesn't count.
Most people ik think more i’s is better 💀 so the guy who made the video has a point
@@tncshindiru2663 more i's? Man lemme get that new iiiiiiiiii7 - 14700k
How about rtx 4060 compare to 3060ti
Finally someone explained it. I hope this blows up, since my friends needed pc-s, and I showed them budget builds for gaming, and all of them had newer generation I3-s in them. And every single of my friends said, but thats I3, it sucks, and I always had to explain to them that it doesn't suck.
My 13100f is a tank, no matter what im doing I never have needed more power
Suck is relative, lol. Pair a 13100F with a 4090, and, yeah, it's going to suck. Lol. But with something like a 3060, it's going to be fine.
@@RacingAnt at 4k? no not really it wouldnt bottleneck seeing as the 13100f beats out the 10700k in gaming
You needed this explaining to you?
@@LavenderJJ_ no i didn't, my friends did
Series matters. You just also have to focus on what generation in that series.
Not 100% of the time. please don't believe the bs they throw at you. An old Xeon chip will do just fine and cost 10% or lower of a 13 series i7 or i9. You don't need 20 cores unless you're rendering a blackhole. What should be said is that "people who buy shit just because it's newer are stupid." Most gamers, 99%, only need a modern i3. Look at steam's hardware survey. Newer doesn't always mean better.
@@mike109374yeah, an 11th gen i3-i5 is enough if ur not one of those pepole with 20 monitors or the person who has 200 tabs of chrome open
I have an i5 13400f and even tho my gpu is kinda bad(gtx 1650, it was a prebuild)
The pc still performes great
@@mike109374 you are correct but that is due to the fact that games are GPU intensive not CPU intensive. If you have a productivity workload that is intense then you need more cores. I see this first hand on my PC using a Ryzen 9 7900x versus my laptop that is 12th gen i7 (can't recall which one tbh). Laptop is considerably slower at tasks that require the computing power of the CPU like data analyzing and systems simulating.
@@mike109374Bro you forgot to consider the fact that older higher class CPU drop in price.
There's no hard and fast rule, you have to consider it case by case..
@@marktate2683 True. You are smart, is good to see that!
You: Intel not so important
Also me ordering the Ryzen I5 11300 from temu
agreed. All you need is the 3 digita in the end and you know which model it is. You add the generation and thats it.
i3, i5, i7 and i9 is only useful to group the processors mainly based on corecount but also some features
Threads and cores left the chat
Yeah he completely missed the part where the new Intel CPUs have P-Cores and E-Cores. Which are used for different tasks, not gaming.
@@yeetus59 There is a gaming PC hashtag. It's about gaming.
@@surr3al756 Okay? And? He said the 13400F has more cores, but those extra cores (e cores) are irrelevant for gaming. The e cores won't boost fps at all... It was an irrelevant detail he added, as if those extra e cores would have any benefit in games (they don't)
@@yeetus59 You just admitted one of your own ideas for him to add (which he already had, I guess?) was pointless, that idea being E-cores. So why does it matter if he has them or not, along with P-Cores, which you claim both to be "not for gaming"? It's just a non-issue. It sounds like you think they should be in there, if it's just an observation than I'm sorry, but if you think they should be added then I really don't see why.
@@surr3al756 it was merely an observation. The topic was about which CPU was better for gaming. He mentioned the i5 has more cores, but those "extra cores" are not really utilized in gaming situations, so it was kinda pointless for him to bring that up.
It just bothers me that a lot of PC building channels fail to clarify the difference between Intel's P and E cores. Unless he has explained it in another video. But I see a lot of content creators just assume "oh Intel more cores =better" which is just not the case when it comes to gaming. E cores are only used for less intensive tasks, or productivity. The P cores are for the heavy workloads, like gaming.
This was somehow more confusing then just the numbers being thrown at me lol, please do one for AMD
It’s always the same thing. More power more speed. But also no needed if you are good with what you already have. Like me with 9900k i9 im good for play in 1440p soo i don’t need new cpu at the moment
Amd follows the old style. Up the levels the better. It's just intel has drastically improved the 13 gen cpu that 3yr old i7 or i9 are in a way not worth it anymore
Im using 12600k at 1440p very good cpu
@@Jason_Bover9000 very goot my friendo
It's literally just old style that's why amd is so great like the Ryzen 9 3950x is slower than a Ryzen 3 5100 (it's not released yet) and a Ryzen 7 5800x3d is slower than a Ryzen 5 7600
Built my first pc recently and went with a 13600k i5. It's for music production and 1440p gaming, and my family could not understand why I didn't go for the i7 minimum. They don't understand this i5 I have has never found itself beyond 50% utilization under heavy workload 😅
The 13th gen i5 is like better than a 10th gen i7
@DemiLovatosSpoon without a doubt! I'm upgrading from a laptop with an 8th generation i7, and the thermals were awful. So not only a huge generational leap, but also a massive difference in cooling capability
Cool
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13600 or 13400? Big deal difference.
people also forget the best consumer CPU for GAMING on ALMOST every game is the R7 7800x3D.
im pretty sure branding soon will become important since naming are now confusing like the ryzen 7 7700x and the intel core i7 7700k
Why would it? People who care know, others will not bother anyway and im kind of fine with it.
and here i am still rocking my 3rd generation i5
Me too 😂😂
Watching this on my laptop with a Core i5 2nd Gen
i7-2700k user here, loving my 5.5Ghz OC. fast as fuck!
@@AverageUnixGirl My desktop still does really well with its AMD A8-5600K
I am not doing well with this pentium.
Both series and model is important and whilst the series might give you a better idea of what someone's running, if you want to know how fast someone's setup is, you'd need to know both. Same can be said for the series of GPUs
Sellers love preying on customers like this... Good job on educating people! 👍
Though, the name does help a customer choose their processor. I3 for budget, i5 for midrange, i7 for professionals, i9 for enthusiast/professionals/high-end users.
bro i needed this like fr this made the most sense out of any youtube video i saw tdy
Man literally explained how technology improves and gets better over time.
Core i* This is the name of the processor line, for example, before all core i5 were quad-core, all i7 - 4 cores - 8 threads, and so on. So splitting into core i* is important
It's important because so many people don't realize that and all they know is, "Core i7 is good" and "more ram makes your computer faster". For us that know tech, it's obvious.
When i ask people they just say 'oh I have an an i5'
And im just standing there thinking wich one😐
I have a 7th Gen i7 7700HQ from circa 2018 on my old acer predator helios 300, and it works just fine today.
Just upgraded from an i9 9900k to a i9 12900k
It's not the model per se that's important, it's the generation more specifically. But good video explaining
Yes! Everyone messes this up! While this would not have been the case in the past, the 12 and 13th gen i3 is actually a REALLY solid CPU for gaming, and can keep up with most 30 series GPUs, or their AMD equivalents, with no bottlenecking. Technology advances, and you cannot apply a lot of information from even just 3 years ago to today.
I have i5-13600K. Absolute beast and no need for me to look any further.
@@halfbakedproductions7887 That's a good CPU.
I haven’t been keeping up to speed since I’ve done my 7700K with a 1070 back when that was the hot shit (that still runs all my needs to this day). And I wouldn’t have guess the last generations could hold their own this well.
My i7-4770 holds up juuuust fine.
It was a big step up for me. From the Core 2 Duo/Quad and then the Xeon x5460.
Exactly.
Holds up to what exactly? Because it's not holding up to anything beyond 6th gen.. and we are on 13th gen right now.
@@zombizombi Holds up to play whatever I want. Games like Rocket League, CS:GO, Hand of Fate 2, finished the System Shock remake, Resident Evil 4 remake, basically almost every game there is until 2022, even this year, it runs.
I don't need 4K 240 fps visuals if the gameplay is trash. I take gameplay over graphics everyday. 1080p60 will do.
@@FightingForceSoulless I thought the same. Got my kid a 4790. Thought it was great. Then I realised that the 4790 bottlenecks the GPU (RTX 2060) and a simple upgrade would make it blisteringly faster.
But yeah. If you wanna play rocket league and CS:GO, have at you.
@@FightingForceSoulless I can respect that but they're not exactly CPU intensive games.
Nice video brother, keep grinding!
Appreciate it!
it is important, if you're choosing between models of the same generation, which I think a lot of people do.. then knowing their those helps
Now compare same generation processor i9 13th vs i7 13th vs i5 13th vs i3 13th
You can't just say to people with just product serial number, generation is important and i3,5,7,9 did indeed provided how the product are place in ther respecive generation.
Yes PC enthusiast will understand 13700k better than normal people, it make sense since these number make it easier to say oh the intel core i7 13th gen. But if I tell normal people who just want a good pc that this 13700k is better than 12900k they won't understand a thing.
I use the 13700k it’s a powerful beast
yeah, until next generation comes...
@@qwertyrewtywytertyit will still be insane
Still rocking an AMD A8-5600K from 2012 with Windows 7 and a GTX 770
Hey G what about i7 13620H can you share some knowledge please?
@@WaffleIsLosti got my i7-10750H
Yeah this was really needed as ALOT of people don't know about this, and it was a pain explaining this to them
❤Thank you Brother.
The reason for Intel having series is that each series has a set of performance standards that is capable of doing a specific task in a timeframe of 2-3 years.
For example, you can lightly run games on Core i5 for games released in that year. You couldn't possibly run a newer game in your old Core i5. However, you could run the same game perfectly even after many years (considering no updates in game)
Web browsing is suitable for Core i3. It tends to get slower each year, but surely you could browse even in the 1st Gen Core i3. Don't thing of running games here.
trying to explain this to my mom was a nightmare
Why would you do that 😭😭
@@omgeduison i was trying to convince her that the laptop she was trying to buy was not the worth the money so i tried showing her different one that was far better for the same price but she told me that i didn't know what i was talking about because the one she wanted to buy had an i7 and the one i showed her had an i5 💀
@@user-js9nk7nc1z
well if you couldnt dum it down for her, pretty much supports her claim that you didnt know what you were talking about :^)
@rookm13 ??? what are you talking about?? having to explain that a 4th generation i7 is not better than a 13th generation i5 is not rocket science
The i usually denotes power consumption. i3 chips sip power, i5 and i7 use moderate amounts, and i9 chips can inhale 200 watts while loading a webpage
So obviously a 7 year newer processor is better, but some of us care more about having a quiet, efficient system and less about jamming whatever makes the numbers go up on cinebench.
An i3 13100k not only outperforms an i9 7900x, but it does so with 1/4th the average power draw.
Something these tech channels always seem to forget is that electricity creates heat, and most people with gaming computers dont want a 1000w rgb space heater in their room in the middle of summer.
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the i more denotes the core counts. and more cores = more power needed to run the cores (assuming same architecture, generation, and lithography)
No. You can buy i7 U and G7 series chips (low power). The iX only matters within the same generation and family.
No, the letter on the end denotes features, which often includes power consumption.
@@lonyo5377 the commenter was talking about the "I" not the CPU suffix
Good video, people needed it. I hate when I say i5 and people think it's not a good cpu while in reality you can buy an i9 that's way worse
wont go that far
Depends on the application. Games work better with higher speed, while professional workstation applications benefit from a higher core count
@@user-oh7vt3sm4jif only the 13600k was a 14 core cpu…
Yes, but if you add in generations as well then the i9 doesn't really say anything. The i9-9900k has less cores than the i5-13600k. Less cache, slower speeds and only supports ddr4. So it's pretty safe to say that the i5-13600k is better than the i9-9900k. If you go even further back, you can pretty safely say that an i5 13600k would be way better
@@danielbrenjuk7291he didnt sa0y about 13600k , he said about 13400f !
Y’all make me feel less worse as always, thank you
It doesn't matter when comparing previous gen cpus, but does when looking at same gen.
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he got drip
why can't i like this video more than once? this needs to be recommended to more people so they understand it. everytime someone asks me which i7 i would recommend i stg
You can by tapping the screen fast pultiple times
Core i* This is the name of the processor line, for example, before all core i5 were quad-core, all i7 - 4 cores - 8 threads, and so on. So splitting into core i* is important
Thank you from IT department 🎉😂❤
So true, my brother was looking at an ‘i7 laptop’ which price seemed too good to be true. I looked up the processor and it was a 10 year old 2 core i7…
Wow u just solved 1 of my BIGGEST problems wid cpus😊
Car guy translation: brand new v6 mustang faster then 1999 v8 mustang
But.. thats exactly what he doesnt tell you.
He says: An Mustang from 1972 with a 600hp engine will be faster then a 2024 hybrid with 150 hp.
intel=brand
Gen=which generation
i7=serie
letter at end=which model
13700k is all of those together
the way it written u know it intel brand
13 is the gen
700 show u it a 7 serie
k mean is unlock model.
them are both just two different way to write the same thing
its also depends on Letter on prossecor
HK - High-powered processor with high-performance
HQ: Quad core CPU with high-performance
U: CPU for ultra low power consumption
F: doesn't have integrated graphics.
X: extreme desktop performance
You're talking about laptop CPUs.. in desktop the main suffixes are K which is unlocked (can be overclocked) and F which is without an integrated GPU..
How do someone check this on the pc
press windows key + R it will open run and type 'msinfo32' and press enter a tab name system information will open check your processor @@waju3457
for example, Intel Core i5-13600K or Intel Core i5-13600H or Intel Core i5-13600U The letter K, or H or U represents which type of work can be done by your processor. (U means normal use , H means gaming)
F means no integrated graphics.
I have an i5 11600K based PC and am VERY pleased with the performance. My previous PC was an i5 4500K with an SSD, which was surprisingly quick.
I learned this when I did my first PC build, which is the PC I'm currently using. When I bought my first personal PC, it was a prebuilt. I just bought one with an an i7-2700k because I assumed i7 would be better than any i3 or i5, even if it is a low generation. Now, my custom built has an i3-10100F, lol. I guess I learned the hard way.
Very accurate
My 12th Gen i7 12700K
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13th Gen i5 13500K lol
Assuming sarcasm, not an we'll executed one?
@@mhtechuk1769 | no? thats literally accurate. 12700K = 13500K
@@mhtechuk1769Single core performance wise, the i9-12900K gets the same performance as an i5-13600K.
The i3,i5,i7,i9 tell you a lot of information, such as how the core ratio is balanced, either more cores or higher single core performance (clock speed)
Yes and the fact that a new i3 is faster than an old i9 isn't going to apply across the board. Depending on the applications you run you might benefit more or less from more base clock speed vs more threads.
Ok so i9 13900k beats all of ‘em
Nee, want dat ding zet zichzelf in de fik
At 3X the price. A 13900K is INSANELY overkill, and something that no average user will ever need.
@@neilcassidy7304 just having fun
Please, yes! I need more people to be aware of this!
I’m boutta go with the i3 13100f for my new build. I have used an i7 7700k before and was very satisfied. Good to hear that my new pc will be a bit faster
@blue-lu3iz thanks for the recommendation. I looked up the prices but I don’t think they fit my budget, however i think i can downgrade some other parts and make around ~170usd for the cpu
Uh, i7-7th gen vs i3-13th gen, so it took 6 YEARS for an i3 to overtake an i7. Sounds like it makes a difference! I get the point. He's trying to find a hook that will grab eyes.
i7 8700k stomps i3 13th gen nd i5 12400f in some areas but is def better than i5 11th generation
Bro you helped me understand it youve changed my life thanks to you i can understand specs now keep up the good work 🎉❤
Still rocking 5900x 🤘
Ryzen 9?
Thank you ! Straight to the point and very informative 👌🏻 😊
There is another part that support the CPU performance that name "different socket LGA" and then "supported DDR5 on newest gen" also supported PCIe or any else that support to go faster.
If we discuss about only CPU For the same DDR with the same Socket. Series mean many things.
i HavE tHe i7
Dunno why people are giving him a hard time
This is good shit for novices especially that think the first two metrics are worth anything
Can imagine a few parents getting a 3 year old i9 thinking it's top of the line lmfao
Depends mate, if some years 3 years old i9 can be faster than three years newer i3 even i5
Is not the obvious part, he said some things that are not that way like he doesn't have so much idea of what he is talking about and he choose CPU's selectively and that is cheating. In other words, everything is very choreographed or a kind of orchestration, made only for uploading something without some much effort and gain money.
And no, this is missleading novices.
This just helped me stop obsessing over buying a new Mac book air for league of legends 😅 I have a 2020 max book air i5 and always regretted not opting for the i7 even though it runs the game perfectly fine
League of Legends will run on a potato at 300 fps
This is like saying there’s no difference between a xx60, xx70, and xx80 gpu. While generation matters, a 13900K is going to perform significantly better than a 13100K
That’s why i always check the benchmark from passmark or userbench of each cpu models before buying them. Those are the numbers that really matter the most.
I wish I knew this before I got my laptop
Solution:
Get an AMD CPU
👍🏻
For whoever is wondering what i3, i5, i7, and i9 mean: They're manufactured with components so small they're about 9 nanometers. To put that into perspective, that is 1/11000th of a sheet of paper. So it's the percentage of the components that function properly, as to have a fully working processor, not all of them need to function. As in i3 is lowest percentage (60%) i5 is higher, and i9 is best.
Those series names are for the shelf of the stores, so that even who's not in technology can know which pc is faster, because it's supposed that only the last or last 2 gens will be for sale. The problem is that even for the same gen a core i7 made for an ultra portable might lose to an i3 made for a desktop, so the tdp has to be considered too. The only easy way to tell cpus apart quickly is to look for banchmarks.
It only matters if you need a specific number of cores in a certain budget. But that doesnt really apply to pure gaming usage.
Didn't explain why the model number is better. It's because the higher number indicates better features and benchmarks like the clock speed, cache capability, and other important notable characteristics.
There are definitely differences, otherwise they wouldn't make them... Larger cache size and different level caches are one of the bigger differences.
This is why I hate ebay ads that just say i7. People will just buy it thinking it's a good processor.
So new advanced tech is generally better than the older interations? Amazing 🎉
This is true. But it’s also true, that higher end have features that the lower end does not.
For those trying to learn, this is very helpful. How many of you OG gamers on a Commodore 64.
Love this dude
I think the i3, i5, i7 in the past is used as a cpu class where:
i3 for budget/entry level cpu
i5 for middle class cpu
i7 for high-end cpu
i9 for enthusiast build (idk how to called something that higher than "high-end" class)
While the next number is for the generation number and the last letter for specific function (like letter "K" for unlocked/overclockable cpu)
it would be a lot easier if they had some benchmark like antutu for these processors.
OMG this shor video explained Intels nomenclature to me better than any other 20 min video 👌👍😊
Series is kinda important when you take future upgrading into account. Everything sits around the series.
For gaming, the generation mostly matters, because of the IPC improvements. So you can mostly ignore the last three digits of the number. Also you want to make sure you have a K or X at the end of it for the highest clocks and free multiplier if you still need that in 2023 when every chip is binned and pushed to the max.
Thanks!
Why was I shown this like a day after I figured it out after years of building lol
It makes sense if you compare CPUs in the same generation.
SIngle core rating is important for gaming. The number of cores are important for servers/editing/producing & etc. So, if u work on your PC, buy CPU with a lot of cores. The generation is important as he said!
The most important information is, if it fits and is compatible.
This is relevant mostly to gaming, in other applications auch as ML, rendering, video editing, or just having to play games while doing other stuff (such as streaming) the numbers of cores will matter..
As a person who works retail, you'll be amazed how many people doesn't grasp the concept of generation.
Bit of a failure on Intel marketing, by focusing on the "Core i#" to every cpu.
I want to say no shit but I know how people can be. Getting a ton of these vids since I'm building a new PC. Going from a i5 6600k to an i7 14700k, really big leap in processing power I'm excited.
I havent thought about this! TQ!
There are more things than just speed. For example support for software, power consumption, aging, weight, size etc. but I 100% agree most people relate it with speed and you busted a very very very important myth.
Agreed, truly knowledgeable and helpful.
Its always been about the model. everything is about the model... what isnt about the model.. cars, planes, boats, tvs, computers, radios, phones.. wtf? next up water is indeed wet guys!
No wonder the company has been struggling in the recent years with this shitshow. Not making it any easier for their customers is a bad strategy