Yeah silage pits were covered with dung for years and it gave a great seal. We also used to spread grass seed on it, made removing it really easy, just grab a lump of grass and pull. The roots of the grass just pulled the dung with them..
Rather than use the grass to make it easier to discard the manure would you be able to sell it as squares of sod as bonus income? I don't know if it'd be feasible since I've never seen it done but I know how every little but helps on a farm.
Even though your Dad says time is money, he supports you and your TH-cam channel 100%. So while you are explaining things to us mere mortals he will always lift a hand to help out.
That’s because there is more money in TH-cam than farming, his time spent is money in the TH-cam bank. You don’t see any other dairy farms spending money like this across the country ( except the farms funded by non farming money like Dyson etc)
Mighty Ginge does it again! Andrew absolutely love listening to you. Your philosophy reminds me of my old boss. People nowadays are so worried about how things look or some new wonderful product. But its all money, and as you have proven many times in the past, there are other methods that have worked for generations. Sometimes, it might be a bit rough or not perfect, but if it works, why not! Enjoy the rest of the week, team Pemberton
Hey tom if u feel burned out from filming we will be ok if u take some time off. We love the dedication to showing us life with tom and ginger but ur mental health is more important. Much love from Wisconsin and safe farming
Once again the ginger warrior shows his knowledge from experience. Also his view between straw and your bunk. Take advantage of the time together and take in everything you can, while it's there! Missing my father on the farm every day.
Great job everyone at the Pemberton farm, we know you do the best you can everyday for your animals and team. You all being open with sharing your successes and learnings should be commended and makes magnificent viewing and learning for others. Well done, keep up the great work and thank you for giving us an insight to your farm.
Love listening to you and your dad’s silage talking! I swear the minute you guys grab a handful of it, I can smell it🤣😂 makes me want to go for a drive in the country! ❤❤
Hi Tom. Just to let you know that I'm a big fan of dad, he his great, most time is right, but I do like the videos, keep them posted, hope the Maze is OK,
Evidence based practice is the best protocol to follow always. Tom I hope you are well, you have seemed a little off lately, like you are fighting an internal battle and life is catching up with you. It’s ok to take a step back and concentrate on you. Self care is a necessity not a luxury. Love to you all xx
It great to see how 2 generations of farmers look at the same situation it and come up with two different answers, and they compare take notes and do what's best the next go round, I didn't have that on the farm
Its great all the different points of view between all of ye. Would you tom consider doing a take over between Luke, Anna and Katie. Like a video “a day with Luke”, with Anna and a day with Katie and all they do in the day. Love your content keep doing what you’re doing 👍🏻
Year ago we use to cover a farmer's pit with box muck and he use to have the best silage, but it was just messy putting it on and taking it off. It dose seal the front of a pit.
We put muck and grassseed on the clamp for many years until we changed over to bales. Worked very well but still had some issues along the walls 👍☘️🇮🇪🇮🇪
I would like to ask a probably stupid question (I' m not a farmer...): If I understood it correctly you want to get rid of air under the silage sheet and want pressure on the clamp. Wouldn't it be good, to cover ground and walls with black sheet, put the grass on, close the sheets and weld the seems, to then pump the air out of this ginormous bag? There would be only little air inside and the whole atmosphere (1bar everywhere) would press it solid (in theory and ignoring, that doing all this without damaging the black sheet might be impossible) Cheers from Germany, thanks for all the brilliant entertainment! Allways hard to wait for the next one.
There are actually big white plastic bags for storing all sorts of silage/feed. So that invention is in practice at a lot of farms. Tom has discussed putting plastic around the sides several years ago. They decided it wasn't worth it for the amount of waste the get on the edges.
As commented ag-bags do that. With railway sleeper walls you definately need side sheets. For concrete panels not so much. So long as it's well rolled with extra wights on the edges and sheet joints the sheet and tyre method works fine
Tom , I remember when you did your first cut and it was more like you were plowing with the bad weather . This was a really interesting video and just shows the difference in getting it right . I know a watch a farmer in Canada and they put sand around the base of their clamps . Some are just area’s in the farm covered over with black plastic and sealed around all the edges with sand . Great video as always take care and stay safe 👍
Oooh yea Old School knows best!! Straw and muck used to be used years ago to cover our beet for the winter so nothing wrong with your plan!! It more labour intensive but it works 😀 sure your maize will help it all 🤔 ALSO put black sheets on the sides also 🤔
Hi Tom...Your video reminded me of this-Back in the Eighties here in County Clare, Eire, my uncle used to put about 1.5-2 feet of dung, or box muck as you call it, on the whole clamp. The plastic would be rolled out from the rear about 6 feet at a time and he would use a push off buck rake on his trusty IH 674 to bring it up the clamp and place it on the sheet, working all the way out to the front. One year, his work man secretly shook cabbage seeds all over the clamp and a serious crop of cabbage plants grew there! I think the heat from the clamp promoted great growth! On our small farm next door, we used to put all our silage in the barn and fork all our loose hay up on the plastic. Always worked a treat and very clean...Love the channel, well done.
I’ve commented before, but back in the day in Ireland muck on a silage pit was (Almost) a standard cover. I was on the CAT 910 (classic) and covered many clamps that way. Add grass seed afterwards and bingo. Car types were an add on and lorry tyres were for the posh farmers 😀
Andrew you are spot on. All that matters is getting the job done. Not how you do it and if it looks "good". Bonus info. If my 6 year old son has to get his point across he points with his middelfinger just like you😉 even a danish kid knows that when an old farmer speeks you listen good😁
love the honesty guys, people love to moan like they are perfect, when really all anyone can do is the best they can with what they have infront of them 💙( been with you since around 50k subs and remember you shaving your head with the sheep sheers 🤣) hoipe you hit 1 mill soon buddy
We put black sheeting down the walls at the end, place an old tarpaulin on the floor at the front tip grass on it… roll the front slope, then fold the side sheets onto the grass, fold the remaining tarpaulin sheet on the front edge over onto the main Blacksheet tuck it all in then weigh it down
We only do a plastic sheet, use dry shit to cover it and hold it down, zero additive in the harvester, and comes out just as good. You always, always have some crappy stuff no matter what you do to prevent it. It’s more worthwhile to just pack the living crap out of it good and proper then nit pick with additive or sealing every teeny tiny little edge perfectly.
We have been bailing silage about a half hour behind the mower and that is some of the best stuff we have made so getting it sealed quickly is the answer
Go the Ginger warrior...OLD DOG FOR THE HARD ROAD...and the PUP FOR THE PATH...my Dads old saying...Mighty result on the pit...10/10...Keep up the super vlogs...
Being farm bred set me up in life better than anything education could offer something goes wrong/breaks first thing I do is look around to see what I can use to fix it , being resourceful utilising whats available is a dieing art
100%. these days it's do it x way by the book, don't think about anything just follow that. Then when something inevitably goes wrong nobody is even able to think how or what went wrong or where to fix
Can you do anything with leather from your cows or beef stock when they get processed. Add it to your merch
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Have a question on the Manitou. Have you looked at or priced rebuilding it? Not a full nuts and bolts, showroom finish job just a back to good working order rebuild. Rewiring all the lights and gauge, replacing bushing and pins, sort any steering or hydraulic issues, get it back to a good second machine. I'm sure it's not a big job to upgrade it ro hydraulic locking pins on the headstock either.
a farmer near me uses old conveyor belts over the clamp. those things are heavy but easy to handle. he slides them onto the clamp with his loader and pulls them off again with the loader. he is very satisfied with it because the weight is distributed well. those conveyor belts cost him nothing because the company where he got them from would otherwise have to take them to a processor.
You've got to love the old sentiment and Ginger's got a lot of that😂😂😂 I'd like to see you and Ginger eat that grass😮 I think you'd be turning yellow looking a bit sick😂😂
Even and consistent weight across the sheet was always going to work. Never doubted it. I see guys round our way piling square bales on top of the sheet which would work a treat. If, big if, you’ve got plenty of straw!
The one thing you should try is a side wall plastic that wraps over top abit before putting the black sheet on. If doubtful use an old piece or just do it on one side of the bunk for the maize to try it.
I've seen the big bags they use in America and Canada Tom would those work better for you?. Great video Tom your dad Andrew is such a knowledgeable man a great old school farmer i could listen to him all day 😊. Thank you so much for the video, and they are never too long or boring. Take care Tom 💜
we are not bored about opening the clamps. it shows the result of the work done in the month before. sometimes all goes well, and sometimes it does not go that well but you still managed to make something out of it. does not look that ugly. of course, we do not have the smell. no issue if they go grazing. it is a bit less feeding. if they are happy with it.
Get the plastic sheets before you put the silage in overlap each side lapping it over the sides when your finished bring in both sides to the middle and it should be a better seal
I was already convinced it would work, I have every confidence Andrew knows what he is doing, he is not daft. He has been an expert farmer for many years , well before the keyboard warriors were born, that’s why he owns a very successful farm . 👍
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 look at the state of the blokes taking the shit off. No question muck,tyres.bales,dead bodies. It all keeps the air away which in turns make good silage. It’s the bloody mess chucking muck on makes. And it was his father’s farm before that I believe or certainly from farming stock.
Well it wasn’t exactly rocket science, let’s see how easy it is to keep the much and silage separate in the other clamp that was covered with it, that is where I think it will struggle. Its a lot different than pulling a bit of muck off the front of the clamp
@kevinwest942 No keyboard warriors are just those who suggest that the best way to do something is their way. Everyone has different opinions, but at the end of the day, the farmers can only do what they can with what they have. Despite the optimal method or most efficient way.
I think 25% is a bit wet, the clamp will be runny and lose some nutrients. Everything from 30-40% is about right and the range you want to aim at. Here in germany it's very common to make so called "24h -Silage". For example if you cut it at 10 am it should be chopped on the next day at 10 am. Sometimes that doesnt apply to 1st and 5th cut since there is usually more grass in the 1st cut and drying conditions for the 5th cut arent ideal.
Oh tom If you ever run out of ideas on what to film what about doing a series about old farming ways vs new farming ways. I think seeing how sometimes old ways are better ways and sometimes new ways are easier and get better results it would be really cool to watch
Great video👍 At our farm in Norway we cut gras and pick it up the next day. Less chance of it getting warm and mould developing when opening the silage tower👍 We got silage towers here, 6meters wide, 12 meters tall. Keep up the good work😊
Don't read the comments father! An eternal source of frustration! (yes I get the irony!) 😄 Your merry team make for great watching and a huge service to farming in general!
Silage clamps out in the open field, sheeted, then completely covered by muck with a muck spreader makes for very good conservation and fermentation. Best way to cover a stack.
192nd! Hello Tom,Luke,Katie,Anna,and the ginger warrior with a mustache. Dad has a very good idea. The seeding of the muck so it wil come off as one big chunk. His experience squeezes through now and again. Roger in Pierre South Dakota USA
No question this method works. I would not put muck on the green sheet and save that option for the black plastic sheeting. Maybe use the “bad” wrapped bales with the straw blower like you did on the spare clamp. Farmers are innovators!!!
Oh Andrew you do make me laugh with how you put things! It’s definitely not the sort of thing I would think to put on the cows food but I know absolutely sod all and I’m definitely going to listen and take advice from a 2nd generation farmer who has been doing it for as long as you have. Everyone else with their opinions can go sit in the corner on their own!!
Tom shouldn’t have listened to his dad and picked it up the day after mowing. A big pit of shite is all they have now as a result and going to be costly to balance
@@philiptyndall4968 quite possibly like I said I know nothing about anything farming I was just talking about putting the muck on top to weigh it down not the quality of the silage overall. I think that Andrew, Tom and a lot of viewers will have learned a lot from this years silage situation. Sadly that’s the hand they’ve been dealt and have to make the best of it.
Just a suggestion Tom, to improve on the using dung to seal the clamp. If you were to keep an old section of black sheet, you could lay over the top, that way when scraping off the dung to open to silo, youve got less chance of damaging the green sheet, but also you can "peel" that section downwards just making lighter work pulling the dung off the clamp! Hopefully that makes sense? 🤔
Neighbours pit was covered with dung for over 12years,opened up a few years ago with the fodder crisis,silage was as good as it if it was made previous year
Back in the 70’s putting plastic sheeting and then muck on the silages was what the Dairy Farmers in the Texas Hill Country were doing. Made excellent feed, they said it was the extra heat and humidity, but it is very dry here
Your dads quite right. Lots of ways to acheive the desired result. Usually a mix of experience and resources available in the conditions. Wouldnt be my first choice though. Tyres arent so bad under cover, dont fill with water making chucking them around easier
All over mainland Europe they cover the pit in sand, the Irish and some Scottish farmers would cover it with soil and bit of grass seed to make it easier to remove long before all the plastic sheets became the thing to do. A bit of muck isn't going to hard it will probably have less waste as the muck is giving more coverage than tires or sandbags
Yeah silage pits were covered with dung for years and it gave a great seal. We also used to spread grass seed on it, made removing it really easy, just grab a lump of grass and pull. The roots of the grass just pulled the dung with them..
Rather than use the grass to make it easier to discard the manure would you be able to sell it as squares of sod as bonus income? I don't know if it'd be feasible since I've never seen it done but I know how every little but helps on a farm.
Yepwe used to feed the grass to the sheep and pigs lol
Never doubt the Ginger guy, decades of knowledge and experience in his head that can't be bought. 💪
Glad it turned out well considering all that happened with the bad weather. That will be a weight of your shoulders
Huge weight. It’s eatable. Not full of milk but ok. 🙈
I farm we farm love you as well big big fan on both of you
I swear by side sheets I know they r a pain but helps to stop the air getting on the side edges has always worked well on all farms I have worked on.
Even though your Dad says time is money, he supports you and your TH-cam channel 100%. So while you are explaining things to us mere mortals he will always lift a hand to help out.
That’s because there is more money in TH-cam than farming, his time spent is money in the TH-cam bank. You don’t see any other dairy farms spending money like this across the country ( except the farms funded by non farming money like Dyson etc)
Mighty Ginge does it again! Andrew absolutely love listening to you. Your philosophy reminds me of my old boss. People nowadays are so worried about how things look or some new wonderful product. But its all money, and as you have proven many times in the past, there are other methods that have worked for generations. Sometimes, it might be a bit rough or not perfect, but if it works, why not! Enjoy the rest of the week, team Pemberton
Hey tom if u feel burned out from filming we will be ok if u take some time off. We love the dedication to showing us life with tom and ginger but ur mental health is more important. Much love from Wisconsin and safe farming
yes have a month of watching tv
Ginger warrior for farmer of the millennium he’s so informative and what a dad Tom couldn’t have had a better dad best dad ever
Once again the ginger warrior shows his knowledge from experience. Also his view between straw and your bunk. Take advantage of the time together and take in everything you can, while it's there! Missing my father on the farm every day.
Your dad is a fountain of farming knowledge fantastic to listen to him 👊👊👊. Good luck with everything ahead on the farm 👍👍👍
Great job everyone at the Pemberton farm, we know you do the best you can everyday for your animals and team. You all being open with sharing your successes and learnings should be commended and makes magnificent viewing and learning for others. Well done, keep up the great work and thank you for giving us an insight to your farm.
Love listening to you and your dad’s silage talking! I swear the minute you guys grab a handful of it, I can smell it🤣😂 makes me want to go for a drive in the country! ❤❤
Hi Tom. Just to let you know that I'm a big fan of dad, he his great, most time is right, but I do like the videos, keep them posted, hope the Maze is OK,
Evidence based practice is the best protocol to follow always.
Tom I hope you are well, you have seemed a little off lately, like you are fighting an internal battle and life is catching up with you.
It’s ok to take a step back and concentrate on you. Self care is a necessity not a luxury.
Love to you all xx
Keyboard warriors!! Your dad's my hero.....
I actuality enjoy clamp videos. Your dads knowlege is priceless. Hes so right in what he said about keyboard warriors.
Gotta ❤LOVE❤ that GINGER WARRIOR WISDOM! You are SO LUCKY TO HAVE HIS INPUT! Absolute ORIGINAL!
I dont know about original but it definitely works. He did say that's what farmers used back in the day xD
Dad saying "Keyboard warriors"
This satisfied me in a way I didn't know I needed lol :D
It great to see how 2 generations of farmers look at the same situation it and come up with two different answers, and they compare take notes and do what's best the next go round, I didn't have that on the farm
That ginger warrior. There’s nothing he doesn’t know. A font of all farming knowledge.
Love the way he educates us all.
your Dad should write a book or two - a wealth of knowledge
Its great all the different points of view between all of ye. Would you tom consider doing a take over between Luke, Anna and Katie. Like a video “a day with Luke”, with Anna and a day with Katie and all they do in the day. Love your content keep doing what you’re doing 👍🏻
Year ago we use to cover a farmer's pit with box muck and he use to have the best silage, but it was just messy putting it on and taking it off. It dose seal the front of a pit.
You can't polish a Turd, but you can sprinkle it with glitter Tom
We put muck and grassseed on the clamp for many years until we changed over to bales. Worked very well but still had some issues along the walls 👍☘️🇮🇪🇮🇪
I would like to ask a probably stupid question (I' m not a farmer...): If I understood it correctly you want to get rid of air under the silage sheet and want pressure on the clamp. Wouldn't it be good, to cover ground and walls with black sheet, put the grass on, close the sheets and weld the seems, to then pump the air out of this ginormous bag? There would be only little air inside and the whole atmosphere (1bar everywhere) would press it solid (in theory and ignoring, that doing all this without damaging the black sheet might be impossible)
Cheers from Germany, thanks for all the brilliant entertainment!
Allways hard to wait for the next one.
There are actually big white plastic bags for storing all sorts of silage/feed. So that invention is in practice at a lot of farms.
Tom has discussed putting plastic around the sides several years ago. They decided it wasn't worth it for the amount of waste the get on the edges.
As commented ag-bags do that. With railway sleeper walls you definately need side sheets. For concrete panels not so much. So long as it's well rolled with extra wights on the edges and sheet joints the sheet and tyre method works fine
Tom , I remember when you did your first cut and it was more like you were plowing with the bad weather . This was a really interesting video and just shows the difference in getting it right . I know a watch a farmer in Canada and they put sand around the base of their clamps . Some are just area’s in the farm covered over with black plastic and sealed around all the edges with sand . Great video as always take care and stay safe 👍
Good to see your dad in a video . Your dad is very knowledgeable tom. The cows are looking good
Your dad is one knowledgeable fella.
Ginger Warrior - GOAT (Greatest of all Time)
Tom when U going to tell us how U got on with ure supersoil trial?????
I think he did a short mention that there was no noticable difference. @jackhickey-nh5ks
Your Dad knows best!!❤
To be honest it's the best I've seen. Looks fresh right to the front. Good one Mr. AP. 👍👍👍 💯💯
Oooh yea Old School knows best!! Straw and muck used to be used years ago to cover our beet for the winter so nothing wrong with your plan!! It more labour intensive but it works 😀 sure your maize will help it all 🤔 ALSO put black sheets on the sides also 🤔
Hi Tom...Your video reminded me of this-Back in the Eighties here in County Clare, Eire, my uncle used to put about 1.5-2 feet of dung, or box muck as you call it, on the whole clamp. The plastic would be rolled out from the rear about 6 feet at a time and he would use a push off buck rake on his trusty IH 674 to bring it up the clamp and place it on the sheet, working all the way out to the front. One year, his work man secretly shook cabbage seeds all over the clamp and a serious crop of cabbage plants grew there! I think the heat from the clamp promoted great growth! On our small farm next door, we used to put all our silage in the barn and fork all our loose hay up on the plastic. Always worked a treat and very clean...Love the channel, well done.
Tom this video is top notch,the knowledge of the ginger warrior never fails to amaze me.Brilliant
Good evening Andy you legend! Keep it up.
I’ve commented before, but back in the day in Ireland muck on a silage pit was (Almost) a standard cover. I was on the CAT 910 (classic) and covered many clamps that way. Add grass seed afterwards and bingo. Car types were an add on and lorry tyres were for the posh farmers 😀
Pit liners on the sides would help.
Real nice, love the comments from the ginger warraior. ACQB here, I'm glad you read the comments.
It would be interesting if you sheet up 1 of the 2 walls of the maiz pit, so you can see the difference in spoilege.
The Ginger warrior for the win every time! Working smarter not harder.❤❤❤
Andrew you are spot on. All that matters is getting the job done. Not how you do it and if it looks "good".
Bonus info. If my 6 year old son has to get his point across he points with his middelfinger just like you😉 even a danish kid knows that when an old farmer speeks you listen good😁
Don’t doubt the warrior
love the honesty guys, people love to moan like they are perfect, when really all anyone can do is the best they can with what they have infront of them 💙( been with you since around 50k subs and remember you shaving your head with the sheep sheers 🤣) hoipe you hit 1 mill soon buddy
We put black sheeting down the walls at the end, place an old tarpaulin on the floor at the front tip grass on it… roll the front slope, then fold the side sheets onto the grass, fold the remaining tarpaulin sheet on the front edge over onto the main Blacksheet tuck it all in then weigh it down
Never doubt the Ginger Warrior!
We only do a plastic sheet, use dry shit to cover it and hold it down, zero additive in the harvester, and comes out just as good. You always, always have some crappy stuff no matter what you do to prevent it. It’s more worthwhile to just pack the living crap out of it good and proper then nit pick with additive or sealing every teeny tiny little edge perfectly.
Have you ever tried sheeting the sides it will stop the waste on the corners
We have been bailing silage about a half hour behind the mower and that is some of the best stuff we have made so getting it sealed quickly is the answer
Go the Ginger warrior...OLD DOG FOR THE HARD ROAD...and the PUP FOR THE PATH...my Dads old saying...Mighty result on the pit...10/10...Keep up the super vlogs...
Ginger is right. Love him. Making roses out of cow poop. Keep up the good work.
Being farm bred set me up in life better than anything education could offer something goes wrong/breaks first thing I do is look around to see what I can use to fix it , being resourceful utilising whats available is a dieing art
100%. these days it's do it x way by the book, don't think about anything just follow that. Then when something inevitably goes wrong nobody is even able to think how or what went wrong or where to fix
Necessity breeds invention
Can you do anything with leather from your cows or beef stock when they get processed.
Add it to your merch
Have a question on the Manitou. Have you looked at or priced rebuilding it? Not a full nuts and bolts, showroom finish job just a back to good working order rebuild. Rewiring all the lights and gauge, replacing bushing and pins, sort any steering or hydraulic issues, get it back to a good second machine. I'm sure it's not a big job to upgrade it ro hydraulic locking pins on the headstock either.
a farmer near me uses old conveyor belts over the clamp. those things are heavy but easy to handle. he slides them onto the clamp with his loader and pulls them off again with the loader. he is very satisfied with it because the weight is distributed well. those conveyor belts cost him nothing because the company where he got them from would otherwise have to take them to a processor.
We used to put a soaker on the silage pile when we got done, soaked the top and it sealed without plastic. There is many ways to seal up a silage
You've got to love the old sentiment and Ginger's got a lot of that😂😂😂 I'd like to see you and Ginger eat that grass😮 I think you'd be turning yellow looking a bit sick😂😂
Even and consistent weight across the sheet was always going to work. Never doubted it. I see guys round our way piling square bales on top of the sheet which would work a treat. If, big if, you’ve got plenty of straw!
Andrew I always put just a wedge of muck at the edge of the front of the pit and add grass seed resulting in less waste than pebble bags
The one thing you should try is a side wall plastic that wraps over top abit before putting the black sheet on. If doubtful use an old piece or just do it on one side of the bunk for the maize to try it.
We love the ginger guy ❤ and another great video Tom 😊
I've seen the big bags they use in America and Canada Tom would those work better for you?. Great video Tom your dad Andrew is such a knowledgeable man a great old school farmer i could listen to him all day 😊.
Thank you so much for the video, and they are never too long or boring.
Take care Tom 💜
How’s Jo and your boy? Love and prayers 😇💜
They split up. He left her.
Your dad is a wealth of knowledge 👏✌️👍
Nice thought for use of old seed, COVER crop.
we are not bored about opening the clamps. it shows the result of the work done in the month before. sometimes all goes well, and sometimes it does not go that well but you still managed to make something out of it. does not look that ugly. of course, we do not have the smell.
no issue if they go grazing. it is a bit less feeding. if they are happy with it.
Get the plastic sheets before you put the silage in overlap each side lapping it over the sides when your finished bring in both sides to the middle and it should be a better seal
I was already convinced it would work, I have every confidence Andrew knows what he is doing, he is not daft. He has been an expert farmer for many years , well before the keyboard warriors were born, that’s why he owns a very successful farm . 👍
Agreed
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 look at the state of the blokes taking the shit off. No question muck,tyres.bales,dead bodies. It all keeps the air away which in turns make good silage. It’s the bloody mess chucking muck on makes. And it was his father’s farm before that I believe or certainly from farming stock.
So if you have a different opinion you’re a keyboard warrior?
Well it wasn’t exactly rocket science, let’s see how easy it is to keep the much and silage separate in the other clamp that was covered with it, that is where I think it will struggle. Its a lot different than pulling a bit of muck off the front of the clamp
@kevinwest942 No keyboard warriors are just those who suggest that the best way to do something is their way. Everyone has different opinions, but at the end of the day, the farmers can only do what they can with what they have. Despite the optimal method or most efficient way.
We always use to put hard dung on the end of the clamp to seal the clamp down down side is mess but always able to wash off
Love to all the team x
You right about mow and chop day after. Aiming for 25-30 dry matter.
I think 25% is a bit wet, the clamp will be runny and lose some nutrients. Everything from 30-40% is about right and the range you want to aim at.
Here in germany it's very common to make so called "24h -Silage". For example if you cut it at 10 am it should be chopped on the next day at 10 am. Sometimes that doesnt apply to 1st and 5th cut since there is usually more grass in the 1st cut and drying conditions for the 5th cut arent ideal.
We've done it for years especially in high traffic areas is it protects the end of the sheets and keeps sealed on the ground
Oh tom If you ever run out of ideas on what to film what about doing a series about old farming ways vs new farming ways. I think seeing how sometimes old ways are better ways and sometimes new ways are easier and get better results it would be really cool to watch
Got to do ,what you have to do , with what you’re got sometimes, better doing something than nothing at all !!!Great work again guys cheers
Great video👍 At our farm in Norway we cut gras and pick it up the next day. Less chance of it getting warm and mould developing when opening the silage tower👍 We got silage towers here, 6meters wide, 12 meters tall.
Keep up the good work😊
Don't read the comments father! An eternal source of frustration! (yes I get the irony!) 😄
Your merry team make for great watching and a huge service to farming in general!
Good video Tom, lots of feed that is good thing.
That's farming, you use what you have unless you have unlimited resources which most farmers don't have. Keep up the good work.
Silage clamps out in the open field, sheeted, then completely covered by muck with a muck spreader makes for very good conservation and fermentation. Best way to cover a stack.
Tom seems a good chap, he should look into farming!
The ginger warrior unbelievable amount of knowledge good farmer if it works you can’t knock it and if it’s free even better 👍🏻
192nd! Hello Tom,Luke,Katie,Anna,and the ginger warrior with a mustache. Dad has a very good idea. The seeding of the muck so it wil come off as one big chunk. His experience squeezes through now and again. Roger in Pierre South Dakota USA
Sheeting it didn’t hurt the dry matter or protein rate though. It gave you good maintenance feed instead of compost. Great video!
No question this method works. I would not put muck on the green sheet and save that option for the black plastic sheeting. Maybe use the “bad” wrapped bales with the straw blower like you did on the spare clamp. Farmers are innovators!!!
Oh Andrew you do make me laugh with how you put things! It’s definitely not the sort of thing I would think to put on the cows food but I know absolutely sod all and I’m definitely going to listen and take advice from a 2nd generation farmer who has been doing it for as long as you have. Everyone else with their opinions can go sit in the corner on their own!!
Tom shouldn’t have listened to his dad and picked it up the day after mowing. A big pit of shite is all they have now as a result and going to be costly to balance
@@philiptyndall4968 quite possibly like I said I know nothing about anything farming I was just talking about putting the muck on top to weigh it down not the quality of the silage overall. I think that Andrew, Tom and a lot of viewers will have learned a lot from this years silage situation. Sadly that’s the hand they’ve been dealt and have to make the best of it.
Another very interesting video Thank you 😊😊😊😊
Anything with constant weight on top of the clamp hoding out air and compressing silage will work well weather it's muck or straw bales
Great double Act from father and Son.😊
Started watch Farm Theory now. But he did like it when I said "Farming Theory "😊😅😮
Just a suggestion Tom, to improve on the using dung to seal the clamp.
If you were to keep an old section of black sheet, you could lay over the top, that way when scraping off the dung to open to silo, youve got less chance of damaging the green sheet, but also you can "peel" that section downwards just making lighter work pulling the dung off the clamp!
Hopefully that makes sense? 🤔
Neighbours pit was covered with dung for over 12years,opened up a few years ago with the fodder crisis,silage was as good as it if it was made previous year
Interesting and informative video as usual, Tom! 👍
Back in the 70’s putting plastic sheeting and then muck on the silages was what the Dairy Farmers in the Texas Hill Country were doing. Made excellent feed, they said it was the extra heat and humidity, but it is very dry here
Your dads quite right. Lots of ways to acheive the desired result. Usually a mix of experience and resources available in the conditions. Wouldnt be my first choice though. Tyres arent so bad under cover, dont fill with water making chucking them around easier
Never bored of sileage.
Enjoyed. How are your son and wife doing?
Have you not heard.
21:33 great content again
All over mainland Europe they cover the pit in sand, the Irish and some Scottish farmers would cover it with soil and bit of grass seed to make it easier to remove long before all the plastic sheets became the thing to do. A bit of muck isn't going to hard it will probably have less waste as the muck is giving more coverage than tires or sandbags
My dad always swore by the muck for weight and minimum waste on the silage clamps. Old ways were always cheaper and fulfilled the same requirements
Life isn always about the money sometimes yu do cause its right regardless the money
Great video Tom