@@JyothiskiranBabyNo. Orthodox church aint valid coz, avar Jacobitesil ninn pirinjappol, avarude apostolic kaiveppu ninnu. Pinne kurbana ellarkum similar aan. Coz jacobitesil ninn pirinjathan baaki malnkara churches ellam. So, pirinj poyathil malankara catholic matram valid aan. Baaki ellam Duplication nadannum. Ithil marthoma independent aan. But IOC uses complete Jacobites liturgy and they accepts their spirutual head as their patriarch. But they are not in communion with antioch. So, they dont stand valid 👍
Well said father. My sister had a marriage proposal from malankara orthodox. But the church refused it. But had lot of formalitiea and limitations. Whereas, after few weeks she got a proposal from Jacobites and now there are no limitations or formalities. Their liturgy isnt boring. Interesting to experience. But hard to stand for 4 hours 💀
@@sijokxavier Jacobite was the mother church of Malankara from which Syro Malankara Catholic, Malankara Orthodox and Marthoma Church got splitted. When Syro Malankara Catholic joined the pope from the patriarch of Antioch, they never lost their Apostolic Succession Because both Jacobites and Syro Malankara are under the St. Peter's successor. One of Antioch and the other of Rome. Meanwhile, Malankara Orthodox and Marthoma lost their Apostolic succession when they broke up with Malankara Jacobite. Thats why it is severely recommended to marry between Apostolic churches! Now there are only 3 denominations which is completely Apostolic! They are Malankara Jacobites, Catholic Church and the Chaldean church. Note:- The liturgy of mass used by marthoma, syro malankara and Orthodox was from Jacobite church which was introduced by a maphrian from Antioch called Mor Gregorios Abdal Jaleel bava. When Marthoma Church broke up, they made some Evangelical (protestant) changes in the Syriac Orthodox (Jacobite) liturgy. Malankara catholic brought some latinization in their liturgy meanwhile Malankara Orthodox is still using the Syriac Orthodox liturgy same as Jacobites. No other difference between both these churches except the head. One remains independently with their Indian Bishop who were consecrated by the Patriarch of antioch before 1960 and the other sect called Jacobite syrian orthodox being with the Patriarch as before from 1600. Btw im from syro malabar church who does a research about syriac studies.
Father what about marthoma suriyani sabha we follow the same as Jacobite since my mother is syro Malabar and my father is malankara marthoma suriyani and which is better for me
Marthoma sabha Jacobite syrian il ninnum split cheythu form cheythathanu,,athukondu avar ipozhum same aaradhana thannae upayogikunnathu..Athupolae Syro-Malabarilum Syrian touch undu..but they are under Pope.Better you should stand with Apostholic Right ulla Sabhayodoppam nilkunnathanu..Marthoma sabha Jacobite il ninnum mariyappol avarudae Apostholic Kaiveppu Poyi..But avar ippolum Patriarch of Antiochinae Bahumanikunnu..Apostholic Kaiveppuulla sabha 1.Jacobite Syrian 2.Syro-Malabar 3.Latin catholic 4.Malankara Catholic Syrian(ithum Jacobite il ninnum split aayathanu)
Hi! I'm a Roman Catholic woman and my partner is from Malankara Orthodox Syrian church. are there any guidelines to follow in terms of marriage? Is it valid? if not, my partner wishes to convert to Roman Catholicism...is it possible?
Nooo its sadly not possible, if the couple's are from Jacobite and catholic then its easy and formalities arent there But if its malankara orthodox and Catholics, its not possible, because one of them will have to get rechrismed in a different church Because the beliefe of Catholic and Jacobites are of st peter But the malankara orthodox has ghe belief of st Thomas Hope it clears ur doubt
@@sijokxavieryeah malankara catholic and syro Malabar Catholic accepted all a Catholics are accepted But marthoma church isnt accepted its an Anglican Church
@@aforalan2305 Marthoma sabha Jacobite syrian il ninnum split cheythu form cheythathanu,,athukondu avar ipozhum same aaradhana thannae upayogikunnathu..Athupolae Syro-Malabarilum Syrian touch undu..but they are under Pope.Better you should stand with Apostholic Right ulla Sabhayodoppam nilkunnathanu..Marthoma sabha Jacobite il ninnum mariyappol avarudae Apostholic Kaiveppu Poyi..But avar ippolum Patriarch of Antiochinae Bahumanikunnu..Apostholic Kaiveppuulla sabha 1.Jacobite Syrian 2.Syro-Malabar 3.Latin catholic 4.Malankara Catholic Syrian(ithum Jacobite il ninnum split aayathanu)
@@sahiralikhan5079 appol coptic sabha inte vishwasam allengil miaphysite christology first stated by the school of Alexandria matiyal pinne Syrian orthodox church inte theology full pogumalo....appol pinne Syrian orthodox aka jacobite exist cheyumo🤔
@@realzhella6817 Syriac orthodox poyal IOC-um pokum. Because syrian orthodoxinte athe kurbana and ideologies copy adichathan IOC. Pne Coptic ideologies mathram alla syriac Orthodox use cheyunnath. Coptic vestments use cheyunund enne ollu. Syriac orthodox enn parayunnath one of ancient christians in the world aan. Great schismthin shesham popeinte underil puthiya rules set cheyth oru kootar poyi. Avare aan Syrian Catholics. Whereas pazhaya customs thudarnnavre syriac orthodox ennum vilichu. Coptic sabha vestments and chela portions matram use cheyunundenn matram. IOC full Syriac orthodox kurbana aan. But they claim the kurbana method is their 🤡
There is some minor corrections needed - CSI and Other protestant churches do not have 7 sacraments. They have only two sacraments - Baptism and Eucharist. Also Baptism from other non-Catholic churches are acceptable (including Pentecostal Churches) as long as the baptism was administered in the name of Trinity.
Catholic can marry Jacobites without any formalities And only and only Jacobites But for malankara orthodox, marthoma, csi and rest all Its not possible and either of you will have to get rechrismed (rebaptized) and change ur churches
I see that in the end of days, these denomination wont matter. Everything depends on how we live in this world. All those who were reborn in christ goes to heaven. Rest of all goes to hell.
What diocese are you? If you are catholic, then its okay! Whereas, if you Schism chuch from jacibites except malankara catholic, its not acceptable by the church law. But its our choice to marry whom!
We are miaphysites and we hold strong faith on Syrian orthodox faith and it’s not at all permissible for the heretics to attend a Syrian orthodox Eucharist and it may cause a curse for them like Jude Iskariot. We are in communion with only Coptic orthodox of Alexandria Egypt Armenian apostolic church and Tawhedo Orthodox Church of Ethiopia It is not at all permissible and we still consider Rome as heretic church. We consider the Nestor of Constantinople and Leo of Roma and their church as rivalries and they have persecuted the oriental Orthodox Church all over the world If an oriental Orthodox Church is going under roman yoke the clergy are definitely blaming the great fathers of church such as Cyril of Alexandria Severus of Antioch, Jacob the baradeus John chrysostum Ivan the golden tongued and the great visionary forefathers of 17th century in Kerala who had discarded off the intruded heretic Roman Catholicism by the historical oath of lean cross in Mattancherry Cochin We will never ever have any relationships with roman church 4 centuries back our forefathers proclaimed We ourselves and our forthcoming generation will never associate with roman pope his church and their heretical teachings till the day the sun and moon are there. But we still maintain personal relationships and humanitarian intervention but our faith is different and we don’t entertain anyone to infiltrate into it like those in history by Portuguese Paranki vedam pashanda vedam ann
ഈ കമൻ്റിൽ നിന്ന് തന്നെ മനസിലാക്കാം താങ്കൾക്ക് അപ്പസ്തോലിക സഭകളോട് ഒരു സ്നേഹം ഇല്ല എന്ന്... വെറും നാമ മാത്ര ക്രിസ്ത്യാനി ആകാതെ സ്വന്തം വിശ്വാസങ്ങൾ എന്താണ് എന്ന് പഠിക്കൂ സഹോദരാ
Ente appane njn appann enna vilikunne ente ammayide mon ammacha enna vilikunne all same thanne but relationships different ann Muslims consider Jesus as their chief prophet Jews consider Jesus as just a political leader of that time Different churches believe in different nature of Christ
Why they ware following traditional Antioch culture. Even Bible say Christianity started in Antioch and not in the Rome . orthodox in Kerala and marthoma ware part of that now they have their own bishops and they splited from Antioch.they also respect the throne of Antioch . As like syro Malabar splited from Roman catholic in 1923. Orthodox Marthoma and jocobite are following traditional Syrian culture . When Portugese arrived they forcefully converted st Thomas Christians to chatholic . They even burned traditional Bible of st Thomas Christians
@@aforalan2305 learn church history first "christianity started in antioch" that doesnt prove anything. Also malankara church split and followed the syrian orthodox church in 1665 not before,they were also forced to adopt miaphysitism and the antiochean liturgy by Shakerullah Qasabgi from the original chaldean liturgy used in malankara since around 300ad no the portugese did not forcefuly convert st thomas christians as they were already under communion under rome but forcefully did latinise the liturgy in which we fought for without being influenced by syrian orthodox,portugese,british protestant and nestorian missionaries sent.
Well noted, good information thank you 🙏
Father, oru RC pennkutty k Orthodox k marry cheyyan pattumo? Enkil marriage class? Marriage procedure nthokeya? Will you please reply
orthdox ennal pala sabhakalum ithu duplicate cheythu use cheyunnundu. Jacobite Syrian Orthodox aanenkil orginal orthodox aanu.No marriage conflicts with RC.No more procedures .But anjana udeshichathu malankara orthodox syrian enna sabhayanenkil (Kottayam Headquartered)-RC yumayi vivaham valid alla.RC achanmar sammathikilla..kaaranam ee videoyil achan paranjittundu..
Orthodox inum jacobite um same koodashakal aanu..achan paranja catholic sabha angaagaricha jacobites nu olla 7 koodashakal tanne anu orthodox sabhakm olath..apo enthanu preshnam..pne syro malabar sabhayude constitutionil orthodox sabhakal ayit kalyanathinu preshnam ila enna reethil kand..compleyely ilann ala nibandanakal ond..apo avde udeshicha orthodox jacobites ne ano?.itonn clear aaki parayo
@@JyothiskiranBabyNo. Orthodox church aint valid coz, avar Jacobitesil ninn pirinjappol, avarude apostolic kaiveppu ninnu. Pinne kurbana ellarkum similar aan. Coz jacobitesil ninn pirinjathan baaki malnkara churches ellam. So, pirinj poyathil malankara catholic matram valid aan. Baaki ellam Duplication nadannum. Ithil marthoma independent aan. But IOC uses complete Jacobites liturgy and they accepts their spirutual head as their patriarch. But they are not in communion with antioch. So, they dont stand valid 👍
Well said father. My sister had a marriage proposal from malankara orthodox. But the church refused it. But had lot of formalitiea and limitations. Whereas, after few weeks she got a proposal from Jacobites and now there are no limitations or formalities. Their liturgy isnt boring. Interesting to experience. But hard to stand for 4 hours 💀
I'm guessing you are Syro Malabar, right? If so Syro Malankara is not acceptable? Jacobite is acceptable? Kindly reply
@@sijokxavier Jacobite was the mother church of Malankara from which Syro Malankara Catholic, Malankara Orthodox and Marthoma Church got splitted. When Syro Malankara Catholic joined the pope from the patriarch of Antioch, they never lost their Apostolic Succession Because both Jacobites and Syro Malankara are under the St. Peter's successor. One of Antioch and the other of Rome. Meanwhile, Malankara Orthodox and Marthoma lost their Apostolic succession when they broke up with Malankara Jacobite. Thats why it is severely recommended to marry between Apostolic churches! Now there are only 3 denominations which is completely Apostolic! They are Malankara Jacobites, Catholic Church and the Chaldean church. Note:- The liturgy of mass used by marthoma, syro malankara and Orthodox was from Jacobite church which was introduced by a maphrian from Antioch called Mor Gregorios Abdal Jaleel bava. When Marthoma Church broke up, they made some Evangelical (protestant) changes in the Syriac Orthodox (Jacobite) liturgy. Malankara catholic brought some latinization in their liturgy meanwhile Malankara Orthodox is still using the Syriac Orthodox liturgy same as Jacobites. No other difference between both these churches except the head. One remains independently with their Indian Bishop who were consecrated by the Patriarch of antioch before 1960 and the other sect called Jacobite syrian orthodox being with the Patriarch as before from 1600.
Btw im from syro malabar church who does a research about syriac studies.
Father what about marthoma suriyani sabha we follow the same as Jacobite since my mother is syro Malabar and my father is malankara marthoma suriyani and which is better for me
Marthoma sabha Jacobite syrian il ninnum split cheythu form cheythathanu,,athukondu avar ipozhum same aaradhana thannae upayogikunnathu..Athupolae Syro-Malabarilum Syrian touch undu..but they are under Pope.Better you should stand with Apostholic Right ulla Sabhayodoppam nilkunnathanu..Marthoma sabha Jacobite il ninnum mariyappol avarudae Apostholic Kaiveppu Poyi..But avar ippolum Patriarch of Antiochinae Bahumanikunnu..Apostholic Kaiveppuulla sabha 1.Jacobite Syrian 2.Syro-Malabar 3.Latin catholic 4.Malankara Catholic Syrian(ithum Jacobite il ninnum split aayathanu)
Hi! I'm a Roman Catholic woman and my partner is from Malankara Orthodox Syrian church. are there any guidelines to follow in terms of marriage? Is it valid? if not, my partner wishes to convert to Roman Catholicism...is it possible?
Nooo its sadly not possible, if the couple's are from Jacobite and catholic then its easy and formalities arent there
But if its malankara orthodox and Catholics, its not possible, because one of them will have to get rechrismed in a different church
Because the beliefe of Catholic and Jacobites are of st peter
But the malankara orthodox has ghe belief of st Thomas
Hope it clears ur doubt
@@alanmathew9722 Thanks a lot!
@@alanmathew9722what about malankara catholic and marthoma? Are they accepted to Catholic? Syro Malabar Catholic
@@sijokxavieryeah malankara catholic and syro Malabar Catholic accepted all a Catholics are accepted
But marthoma church isnt accepted its an Anglican Church
I'm a Jacobite... married to RC man...njaglde kid ne Jacobite lu baptism cheyyan pattumoo.....enik ente palliyil kurbana sweekariksn pattumoooo
ഈ RC എന്ന് നിങ്ങൾ ഉദ്ദേശിച്ചത് Syro-Malabar സഭ ആണോ 😂??
Pattum.. No issue..
Father, oru Latin church member inu Syrian marathoma akan okuvo
😂😂 pattum njan marthomaya
Pine pray to saints illa only jesus
I have the same doubt I am half marathoma and half syro Malabar . which one i want to continue in my future
@@aforalan2305 Marthoma sabha Jacobite syrian il ninnum split cheythu form cheythathanu,,athukondu avar ipozhum same aaradhana thannae upayogikunnathu..Athupolae Syro-Malabarilum Syrian touch undu..but they are under Pope.Better you should stand with Apostholic Right ulla Sabhayodoppam nilkunnathanu..Marthoma sabha Jacobite il ninnum mariyappol avarudae Apostholic Kaiveppu Poyi..But avar ippolum Patriarch of Antiochinae Bahumanikunnu..Apostholic Kaiveppuulla sabha 1.Jacobite Syrian 2.Syro-Malabar 3.Latin catholic 4.Malankara Catholic Syrian(ithum Jacobite il ninnum split aayathanu)
What about orthodox and chaldean church based on thrissur?
Orthodox indian aado! Athum Syrian orthodoxinte Chittakalum, acharangalm matiyal indian orthodox exist cheyinila
@@sahiralikhan5079 appol coptic sabha inte vishwasam allengil miaphysite christology first stated by the school of Alexandria matiyal pinne Syrian orthodox church inte theology full pogumalo....appol pinne Syrian orthodox aka jacobite exist cheyumo🤔
@@realzhella6817 Syriac orthodox poyal IOC-um pokum. Because syrian orthodoxinte athe kurbana and ideologies copy adichathan IOC. Pne Coptic ideologies mathram alla syriac Orthodox use cheyunnath. Coptic vestments use cheyunund enne ollu. Syriac orthodox enn parayunnath one of ancient christians in the world aan. Great schismthin shesham popeinte underil puthiya rules set cheyth oru kootar poyi. Avare aan Syrian Catholics. Whereas pazhaya customs thudarnnavre syriac orthodox ennum vilichu. Coptic sabha vestments and chela portions matram use cheyunundenn matram. IOC full Syriac orthodox kurbana aan. But they claim the kurbana method is their 🤡
Tks achaa
Father is it okay for a rc boy to marry jacobite girl
Will there be any issues from the church
Nope
Rassian orthodox Christian can receive the holy communion in catholic Church
Russian church separated from Constantinople
There is some minor corrections needed - CSI and Other protestant churches do not have 7 sacraments. They have only two sacraments - Baptism and Eucharist.
Also Baptism from other non-Catholic churches are acceptable (including Pentecostal Churches) as long as the baptism was administered in the name of Trinity.
Indian orthodox too doesnt have 7 sacraments
Cheettann ithine patti vellya dharana illa
Orthodoxy ennall saypinte cash kand chadi poya malankara catholic kootam alla
Father, is it okay for a Roman Catholic to get married to a Jacobite
Yes
Yes..Only from Jacobites
Is it possible for a Catholic to marry from Orthodox, Jacobite,Malankara catholic and mar thoma sabha?
Same question 🖐🏻
Acha pls answer
Catholic can marry Jacobites without any formalities
And only and only Jacobites
But for malankara orthodox, marthoma, csi and rest all
Its not possible and either of you will have to get rechrismed (rebaptized) and change ur churches
Catholic marriage valid only from Jacobite not from Orthodox or marthoma.Malakara catholic is under Pope only so it also possible.
I see that in the end of days, these denomination wont matter. Everything depends on how we live in this world. All those who were reborn in christ goes to heaven. Rest of all goes to hell.
Can i marry a Jacobite girl ?????
What diocese are you? If you are catholic, then its okay! Whereas, if you Schism chuch from jacibites except malankara catholic, its not acceptable by the church law. But its our choice to marry whom!
Thanks
We are miaphysites and we hold strong faith on Syrian orthodox faith and it’s not at all permissible for the heretics to attend a Syrian orthodox Eucharist and it may cause a curse for them like Jude Iskariot.
We are in communion with only Coptic orthodox of Alexandria Egypt
Armenian apostolic church
and Tawhedo Orthodox Church of Ethiopia
It is not at all permissible and we still consider Rome as heretic church. We consider the Nestor of Constantinople and Leo of Roma and their church as rivalries and they have persecuted the oriental Orthodox Church all over the world
If an oriental Orthodox Church is going under roman yoke the clergy are definitely blaming the great fathers of church such as Cyril of Alexandria Severus of Antioch, Jacob the baradeus
John chrysostum Ivan the golden tongued and the great visionary forefathers of 17th century in Kerala who had discarded off the intruded heretic Roman Catholicism by the historical oath of lean cross in Mattancherry Cochin
We will never ever have any relationships with roman church 4 centuries back our forefathers proclaimed We ourselves and our forthcoming generation will never associate with roman pope his church and their heretical teachings till the day the sun and moon are there.
But we still maintain personal relationships and humanitarian intervention but our faith is different and we don’t entertain anyone to infiltrate into it like those in history by Portuguese
Paranki vedam pashanda vedam ann
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വെറും നാമ മാത്ര ക്രിസ്ത്യാനി ആകാതെ സ്വന്തം വിശ്വാസങ്ങൾ എന്താണ് എന്ന് പഠിക്കൂ സഹോദരാ
Enna kopparinjitta parayunne....achan catholic Church doctrines anuu parayunne..... Sabhakk sabhayude rules und
correct
can csi boy can marry a latin girl ???
Yes.Love marriage aanenkil..otherwise mamodisa elkanam
Can catholic marry a jacobite girl?
Yes, but groom jacobite churchilek maranam
@@dominickunjumone81 thirich agathile? Like bride RC lek maranpatile?
@@Friends-lq9rk Yes
Yes
Oru yeshuvum anjettu sabhayum 😔.oh God ningal Ithu vallom kanunundo
Ningak pinneh 3 kodi daivam indello
Atheda njagalde daivam eshuvanu sathiya daivam allathe nigale pole palajathi daivagal illa eaka sathiya deaivam aya YAHWEH✝️✡️
40 deivavaum deivathinu 40 bharya maarum onn podave
ഒന്നിന് യഥാർത്ഥ റൂട്ട് ഉണ്ട് മറ്റൊന്നിനു ഇല്ല.
Ente appane njn appann enna vilikunne ente ammayide mon ammacha enna vilikunne all same thanne but relationships different ann
Muslims consider Jesus as their chief prophet
Jews consider Jesus as just a political leader of that time
Different churches believe in different nature of Christ
ഒന്നും സ്വീകരിച്ചില്ലെങ്കിൽ ചത്തു പോകുമോ
Pokum
Athmavil marikum
@@edwinthomas8908 ഇതൊക്കെ മിഷനറിമാരുടെ നമ്പർ ആണ്.. ഹിന്ദുക്കൾ മരിക്കില്ലല്ലോ 🙄🙏
പൊളി മാൻ ....👍
ആത്മാവിൽ ഉള്ള മരണം സംഭവിക്കും...
പച്ച മലയാളത്തിൽ പറഞാൽ ചത്ത് പോകും
Orathadox സഭയിൽ കുർബാന സ്വീകരിക്കാൻ പാടില്ലേ
ഇല്ല.പത്രോസ് ശ്ലീഹ സ്ഥാപിച്ച സിംഹാസനം അണു റോം , antioch , ഇവരുടെ ഹെഡ് അണു rome pope , ആന്റിയോക് patrikese
No
Why they ware following traditional Antioch culture. Even Bible say Christianity started in Antioch and not in the Rome . orthodox in Kerala and marthoma ware part of that now they have their own bishops and they splited from Antioch.they also respect the throne of Antioch . As like syro Malabar splited from Roman catholic in 1923. Orthodox Marthoma and jocobite are following traditional Syrian culture . When Portugese arrived they forcefully converted st Thomas Christians to chatholic . They even burned traditional Bible of st Thomas Christians
@@OrangeHolidays3543why not marthoma and orthodox follow every thing same as Jacobite
@@aforalan2305 learn church history first "christianity started in antioch" that doesnt prove anything.
Also malankara church split and followed the syrian orthodox church in 1665 not before,they were also forced to adopt miaphysitism and the antiochean liturgy by Shakerullah Qasabgi from the original chaldean liturgy used in malankara since around 300ad
no the portugese did not forcefuly convert st thomas christians as they were already under communion under rome but forcefully did latinise the liturgy in which we fought for without being influenced by syrian orthodox,portugese,british protestant and nestorian missionaries sent.