Marantz MODEL M1 review (vs. WiiM, Bluesound, Lyngdorf & Audiolab)
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0:00 Intro
0:40 Made in Japan, streaming and connectivity
4:01 HEOS, playlist and DSP
8:29 vs. Bluesound Powernode
10:39 vs. WiiM AMP & Lyngdorf TDAI-1120
13:47 vs. Audiolab 6000A Play and final thoughts
17:49 Outtakes
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This video contains 4 side by side comparisons, which makes it extremely useful. Thank you for going to all the effort.
Thank you for including the outtakes at the end. Made my day.
Very simple and clear review. Your comparison units are right in the range. Good job John.
This video includes 4 side by side comparisons...
Much success John! Love your work
Love your 4 side-by-side comparisons, but also love your bloopers for whom may think what you do its easy.
Always appreciate your thoughts. Thank you.
This video contains four side-by-side comparisons.
Really love the “peek behind the curtain” that the outtakes provide. Excellent video!
Was für eine tolle bewertung. Vielen Dank!
This video contains 4 side-by side comparisons.
Great review. Thanks!
Beautiful stuff man!!! Thanks!
This video includes four side by side comparisons. Thanks John!
This excellent review contains four, side-by-side comparisons!
been waiting for this one!
Beautifully subtle teaser of the Monitor Audio Studio 89. Looking forward to the review.
Awesome review! I loved your detailed breakdown of the Marantz MODEL M1 streaming amplifier.
I was pleasantly surprised to hear how well the Marantz MODEL M1 stands its ground against the Lyngdorf TDAI-1120, super helpful for anyone considering these options. Thanks, and have a great day!
Best regards,
Yuri 🙂
Wiim brains matched with the M1 amplifier would be the perfect product for me.
HEOS is meh. I bought a Wiim Pro to use with my Denon AV amp and, even using the same DAC and amplification, the sound and user experience improved. Adding a Topping E50 DAC improved things further. HEOS just seems half baked.
As for comprehensive streaming solutions, Auralic and Hifi Rose come close, but still don't beat Wiim despite much higher price points. Hifi Rose, in particular, lacks Amazon music which is a shame, as so does Roon.
4 side by sides is just awesome! cheers
Love your new white slat background. Looks smart!!
This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. And a great review as well!
I absolutely LOVE the outtakes. John is not only the best at what he does, but he also doesn't take himself too seriously. Excellence and humility combined are just part of what makes John the best. Well done!
Thanks for the great post.
This video contains 4.1 side-by-side product comparisons. Thank you John.
4 side by side comparisons is great!
Nice outtakes!
This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. Great review, trying to decide between this unit and the Bluesound Powernode to power some outdoor speakers on my back patio. Already have the Powernode in my bedroom and it's great, also have a Node/Peachtree GAN-1 combo in the living room so staying within the BluOS platform is very appealing.
This video contains four side-by-side comparisons.
Thank you, John, for another well-crafted, informative, and entertaining video.
"This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons"
And all were comparisons of interest.
This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons.
I'm setting up a 2.1 audio-only system for my home gym - B&W CDM-1s and SVS sub. The M1 seems like a good solution - Marantz quality, compact, streams, beefy amp, SW support, not outrageously priced.
The value of the Sonos is hard to ignore though.
Why are we not using usbc already?
4x4 comparisons - wowzers!
This video contains four side-by-side comparisons, and as always, was well worth the watching.
The blooper reel hit the button as usual, well done John! A worthy inclusion every time.
Darko is back!
Meanwhile Wiim is taking notes: "note to self, must make fully digital version with descrete class d or class a amp". Give them a year and I wouldn't be surprised.
Tvc4x4sbsc👍
No such thing as a digital amp. Twenty years of marketing hype. But it's your money.
Woa...those graphics. Kind of blew my mind. Stepping up your game Mr. Darko. Nice job (on the graphics and the review)!
Also, this video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons.
“More musically alive” = musicality 😉😊
I know it’s probably an old complaint, but i do wonder about the longevity of all-in-one app controlled amplifiers. I’ve just gotten burned by Sonos dropping support for local streaming through Navidrome just because they no longer feel like doing it. Now I can no longer listen to my own music with a solution that used to work great, and that I spent good money on. What happens in 5 years or 10 years when Marantz decides they no longer want to support this product?
"This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons" Thanks for the video!
"This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons", Thank you John for another thorough video.:)
Interesting device, I'm planning a low maintenance low visibility system for a friend, I will take the M1 in to consideration. Thank you for the review.
This video contains four side-by-side comparisons and a whole bunch of bloopers at the end. Thanks for the review John and going into a product that will be controversial.
This video contains 4 side by side comparison's
I am so happy that Marantz jumped in the modern era, although I think missing out on Google cast is a big mistake, having tens of millions of devices with android.
I still enjoy your work and I consider it to be the mostl professional one on TH-cam!
Thanks for the review, Darko. I’m considering this Marantz for my desktop system consisting of JBL L52 Classics and an L10 Classic sub. Seems like a lovely product and I have always enjoyed Marantz and JBL together. The bass management and Airplay are probably the only two “features” I would use. I could accomplish this for less money, as your side-by-side comparisons demonstrate, yet I’m drawn to the Marantz most of all. The Sonos Amp is a close contender as I already have Sonos throughout the home, but my desktop doesn’t need to act as an extension of that system. Cheers, sir. Thanks again.
I love your reviews. I've been waiting for this, and I couldn't wait for this befroe I got one!
I am not a fan of HEOS, but AirPlay2 gets me to Roon so I am also not bothered by the streaming options. I actually wasn't aware that Roon-Ready-Ness was in the cards - that would be icing on an already wonderful cake.
I put this in my bedroom driving a pair of KEF R3-Meta's and the M1 disappears with the other clutter on my dresser. Now we can queue up our favorites with Roon.
I am actually considering a 2nd unit for my wife's office!
Been wating for this review. Seems like a solid product, but I guess the wait is still on for a product that has a top notch amplifier and the streaming chops of the Wiim AMP.
This video contains 4 side by side comparison's
This video contains 4 side by side comparisons - and excellent comparisons they are too! Well done John.
Can you possible add details of the speakers you've used.
Have you thought of doing a video on whether "power conditioner/strips/etc" actually make a difference. One of your most most useful video series has been your videos on room acoustics and the benefits of room treatments. Power treatment equipment could be another interesting series. I know you are flat-out busy so maybe this is something for the distant future.
Thank you for superbly produced informative videos.
Your b-roll music sounds fantastic on the Nothing Ear 2s!
Would have been great if you compared it with Marantz stereo 70
4 side by side. Thank you, Darko.
Perhaps a WiiM Ultra and Rega io amp might be a better solution plus the combined price is about the same. I hate being totally reliant on an app based device which will have a life span dependent on the ongoing support for the app.
Nice review, for the record I’m still waiting for the 40n to be ROON ready a few years later
Bought a pair of LS60 wireless and never looked back.
My glass was definitely more full than empty, with the four side by side comparisons.
Interesting video even for the likes of myself a millennial, A/B, vinyl purist, music first audiofan.
Thanks John 🙌
John, you and I have a sort of spooky action from a distance when it comes to music affinity…
it’s really kind of strange.
But I like it.
Cheers mate!
👻
Great video! Why wasn’t the Stereo 70s mentioned tho?
This video contained 4 side by side comps. Which we appreciated.
This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. and yes that glass is well full!!! Question - could I feed HDMI direct from an iPad with an apple adaptor? I'm old skool and like having a music source sat on the amp... and it has a screen. Would power-on, volume and input switch work? And talking about input-switch, how do i switch to RCA in?? do I need the app?
"This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons" Keep it going!!!!!!
end of video
'Loaded' - Primal Scream shown twice? Nice! It's a great track, and yeah, it's one of my 'Testable go-to's' too (when trying headphones/stereos etc)... 😏👌 😎🇬🇧
I have the DRA900h from Denon. after some Month it play's quite good. This Thing manages everything, TV, DVD, the Thorens Player, the CD with it's own DAC.
And it manages two Rooms with different Speakers. But for an stand alone System i would prefer an Streamer like the M1
Thanks for the video. Add Qobuz and you have competition for the Wiim ultra amp etc.
What kind of speakers would this amp be comfortable with, do you think it would pair nicely with the likes of a LS3 5a kind of bookshelf
Thanks for the good work you do on this channel
I'm certainly no expert but I've been distantly attached to stereos all my life.
I think the marantz outshining the Lygdorf in the flat performance points directly at the continuing evolution of class d hifi.
As someone interested in buying Lyngdorf this seems interesting alternative. I guess if only it would have a volume knob ) thank you for review
Hi, thanks for the info.
My first venture into streaming was with a Yamaha WXAD-10, long since discontinued. While the Musicast system was far from perfect, it could handle FLAC files at 44.1 kHz.
The device sold bugger all, but it seems like it was a design trailblazer. Both the Wiim Pro and this Marantz M1 look like they've taken design notes from the Yamaha. Funny.
Thanks for continuing to champion a diversity of music.
Cheers - Hedley
Comparison with Stereo 70s? Thought that was now your reference in this price range.
Thanks john appreciate the time taken and put into the review, wondering if you’ve experienced the technics range which is also direct digital no dac? Yes watched to the end ;)
Love the USM tv unit👍
Thank you
A Perfect side by side would be NAD c700.. Got mine for 1000€ in Nederlands in June 2024.. Same size, Almost same spec.. Love your Videos ..
Great comparisons. As someone who recently purchased a Powernode I watched this with interest, however the lack of headphone amplifier is a dealbreaker for me... Thankfully! The M1 looks lovely though.
Love the reviews. I am old school and love audio gear with knobs and buttons. When I say old I am refering to amps back in the 60s and 70s. I now have had to modernise my thinking and some years ago purchased a Denon AVR3000 but now its time for a change and a rethink. Do I go back to 2 channel or stick with 5.1? is there something out there that will give me the best of both worlds and not compromise on the audio? To add to the challenge, many systems now use apps. Unfortunately for me as a blind person, not all apps are accessible. Some are, but others are not. So if I am to replace my Denon, and speakers, (I love floor standing speakers) what's a great place to start looking from? .is change
Hi John - curious about the new wall slats on the front wall - acoustic panels? Can you share details?
Apologies if already covered in previous posts .
John, U need to make a dedicated Video about the new WiiM Firmware Update allowing FREE Room Correction ! .... But NOT on the Wiim Mini .....
I am pleased to comment that this video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons.
This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons
I'm glad that there's more competition against the WiiM Amp product type.
Competition means more choices and improved products so consumers win.
I'm wondering how it compares to the Nad M32 :) - thank you for those comparisons in the vid!
Four side by side comparisons requires a lot of time in the listening seat. Thank you for the dedication! It seems like Marantz has done their homework and brought forth a real nice piece of kit. As far as the lack of streaming services, we're in the day and age of delivering the minimum and adding services as time progresses. I suspect the same could be true here.
I so appreciate that they included eARC. These days our living room is used for 80% TV/Movie viewing and 20% music which means eARC is a must have. I'm really curious to try out a direct digital amp compared to my old class A/B with an integrated DAC, especially for Movie watching where soundtracks tend to be livelier than my usual music listening.
I really like the mesh top design. I'm curious, is the cooling completely passive? No fans inside? I've noticed over the past week, as we've been experiencing a heatwave, that my amp is overheating and causing quite a bit of distortion in the mids. The ambient temp in our apartment is around 78-80ºF compared to the normal 74º in the summer, and I guess that's enough of a difference to cause very noticeable distortion.
I saw 7 side by side comparisons. I was exhausted.
Great review... curious to know how it would compare to the cambridge evo 150.
This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons 👍 Thanks
How do you connect the speakers to both amps for a good side by side comparison?
I think that for now my audio system is quite complete enough.
Nothing you said about the M1 makes me feel any buyers remorse for the things I did buy already.
And sometimes, that’s all one needs from a review. 😅
I think that what really is missing from my audio setup right now, though, is user friendliness for the less technical people in the household. For that I’d need a bigger rethink of the components.
Thanks for brilliant review. How is it if soundwise compared to Marantz stereo 70, is it just comparation between D-amp vs AB-amp or is it more?
I wonder the same thing. Same prize, manufacturer and streaming platform. Would be great to know if they can drive the same speakers.
I see you FT3! lol. I bought the FT5s and love them.
Oh, and I just ordered the M1 :) When I stream it is from my phone, so all I need from Heos or any other streamer is bass management and quality sound (looking at you, Marantz.) Airplay works just fine on a modern iPhone
This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. I feel like you answered your own question about “musicality” when you said that music felt “more alive” through the Marantz than the Lyngdorf. That’s what it’s always meant to me, anyway. Not necessarily perfect linear accuracy, but the feeling that the music has life.
This video contains 4 side-by-side comparisons. Great infotainment as ever. What were the stand mounters shown in the video?
I hope there is product same as M1 but for 3 speaker ( center + L/R ) and sub out.
Hmmm, I wouldn’t mind getting a whole Marantz set up but at this point I have everything I need with WiiM and all without breaking the bank.
Best of all I’m happy with what I have.
Four side by side comparisson yay!
Imagine the dust on the top after a year nicely caught under the mesh ……. de-li-ci-ous!
Schnitzel! Also im pretty sure that you also rank the Brooklyn amp int this review. So 5 it is.
John you are a godsend for men. I’ve been waiting for this review ever since the M1 was announced. I have been saving money for Lyngdorf because I live in Copenhagen and I’ve spoken to Peter Lyngdorf himself at events so I was determined to get the Lyngdorf but now I am not so sure. If only one could try RoomPerfect at home before buying. Greetings from Denmark 🇩🇰 and lots of love to Berlin 🇩🇪 where I found the love of my life.
No Tidal Connect?! Deal breaker. (Waiting to see what John thinks of WiiM Ultra.) Anyway, "This video contains four side by side comparisons."
Thanks John. I was considering this as part of my desk setup with a pair of Elac Solano bs283s. The wiim amp I auditioned with the similarly priced NAD and Marantz pm6007. I deliberately auditioned them near field only as this setup will only be used that way. I found in this arrangement the wiim amps flaws are completely mitigated against the competition above but I was still curious about the marantz m1. A suggestion for these compact options would be to give a near field opinion on them. I think many are buying these kinds of amps for that purpose.
Yes, in order to get the best sound from my Lyngdorf, I bought a Cambridge Edge W. I found one for less than half the RRP, but I know people will still question my choices. I don't care though. I love what I have. 🙂
Only when someone else is *paying* for your gear do they get to question your choices. 😉
Great video, is Rotel 11 Tribute better sounding amp?
I wonder no one mentions the equalizer and room correction feature of the wiim devices. It's a K. O. for most of the competitors.
It's been mentioned in lots of reviews...
Thanks. This video contains four side by side comparisons. M1 was good but the Wiim is closer to my budget.
Agreed
I'm really curious to hear how you think the comparison with the Wiim Amp holds up now that room correction is included!